A friendly reminder now that the coronavirus thing is happening

[TJtheGator]

Holes had TWO CONSECUTIVE losing football seasons.

What you thought this was coronavirus news? Check CNN for that.

Here is where you get your dose of Hole hate and smack.

Carry on. Wash your hands.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Holes had TWO CONSECUTIVE losing football seasons.

What you thought this was coronavirus news? Check CNN for that.

Here is where you get your dose of Hole hate and smack.

Carry on. Wash your hands.

I'll admit I didn't hate their bowl game loss. At that point Slick Willie was gone anyway, and FSU losing seasons are to be savored, they are so rare, with them playing in that POS conference.

Having said that, I would have liked to have seen them have enough success to keep Taggart around for another year. Not if it meant beating UF, of course. But if beating Wake and Miami would have kept his job, that would have been preferred. Just think of the damage he could have caused if he managed to stay there as long as 4-5 years. {Sigh} A lost opportunity.

 

[ocalaman]

Holes had TWO CONSECUTIVE losing football seasons.

What you thought this was coronavirus news? Check CNN for that.

Here is where you get your dose of Hole hate and smack.

Carry on. Wash your hands.

You don't get coronavirus news on CNN - All you get is non-stop Trump-bashing. There is no journalism at all on that network and I wouldn't believe anything they say about any subject.

 

[LizardGrad89]

You don't get coronavirus news on CNN - All you get is non-stop Trump-bashing. There is no journalism at all on that network and I wouldn't believe anything they say about any subject.

You sure about that?

https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1

 

[TEBOW TIME]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We passed China today

 

[fsu939913]

I'll admit I didn't hate their bowl game loss. At that point Slick Willie was gone anyway, and FSU losing seasons are to be savored, they are so rare, with them playing in that POS conference.

Having said that, I would have liked to have seen them have enough success to keep Taggart around for another year. Not if it meant beating UF, of course. But if beating Wake and Miami would have kept his job, that would have been preferred. Just think of the damage he could have caused if he managed to stay there as long as 4-5 years. {Sigh} A lost opportunity.

We were talking about bringing in Odell as a head coach if he played the Gates tough and won the bowl game. Ive never rooted against us more.

 

[grommit]

You sure about that?

https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

CNN is not news or a journalistic site. They are leftist propaganda. Like most every company that tries to sell itself as news or a newspaper these days, they have an owner who has an agenda and just like William Randolph Hearst, they are using their companies to push their agenda on the country.

 

[LizardGrad89]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

CNN is not news or a journalistic site. They are leftist propaganda. Like most every company that tries to sell itself as news or a newspaper these days, they have an owner who has an agenda and just like William Randolph Hearst, they are using their companies to push their agenda on the country.

Not a discussion for this board.

But you have it exactly backwards. Fox News and other conservative news organizations are the distributors of propaganda, I'm going to give you two youtube videos concerning Sinclair Communications, a conservative news organization, and what they had their member stations do, and why they did it. Then maybe you will begin to see.

 

[ocalaman]

Not a discussion for this board.

But you have it exactly backwards. Fox News and other conservative news organizations are the distributors of propaganda, I'm going to give you two youtube videos concerning Sinclair Communications, a conservative news organization, and what they had their member stations do, and why they did it. Then maybe you will begin to see.

View embedded media

View embedded media

You, sir, are a fool.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/cnn-trump-derangement-everything-but-news/

https://www.cernovich.com/mike-cernovich-is-more-reliable-than-cnn/

 

[LizardGrad89]

You, sir, are a fool.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/cnn-trump-derangement-everything-but-news/

https://www.cernovich.com/mike-cernovich-is-more-reliable-than-cnn/

You read the national review and listen to some tool named Cernovich but I'm the fool. Well, okey dokey then.

Did you watch the videos? I would hold off on the insults until you do so.

 

[Countygator1]

CNN, MSNBC and most mainstream media pushes a liberal agenda. Fox news pushes a conservative agenda. Fox does have a couple of token liberal commentators. Going back and forth about which lies and doesn't lie depends solely on your political point of view.

 

[LizardGrad89]

We were talking about bringing in Odell as a head coach if he played the Gates tough and won the bowl game. Ive never rooted against us more.

Talking by fans is not the same as the decision making process of the hiring committee. I cannot believe that those charged with replacing Willie Taggart would consider such a risky hire. It was different when they were replacing Fischer. They had two consecutive coaches that won titles, you could see how they might feel like FSU was bulletproof and anybody they brought in would be a success. If they hired Odell then you could see how they thought it would work. But after the reality of the Taggart era, they would be looking for the surest bet they could find.

 

[GatorNation79]

I'm sitting at the house getting fat as heck.

 

[ocalaman]

CNN, MSNBC and most mainstream media pushes a liberal agenda. Fox news pushes a conservative agenda. Fox does have a couple of token liberal commentators. Going back and forth about which lies and doesn't lie depends solely on your political point of view.

It's not that clear-cut or even-handed. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC all push outright lies and misinformation to try to continually undermine this President. That has been proven over and over the last 4 years.There is zero objectivity at all and they have no shame. Some of Fox's commentators do push a conservative agenda, but their news people like Brett Baier are pretty balanced, especially when compared to people like Wolf Biltzer, Lester Holt, Norah O'Donnell, David Muir and others who are supposed to be straight-up news reporters. That's what drives the left crazy. They don't want both sides of any issue reported. Just like on college campuses, the left doesn't want honest debate. They want their viewpoint to be the only one heard and anyone who disagrees with them has to be shut down. There is ZERO journalism in the lamestream media and while CNN & MSNBC are the chief offenders, the major networks aren't far behind. They have no credibility and the recent poll proves that the media is the least trusted on Covid-19. The only institution less trusted is Congress.

 

[fsu939913]

Talking by fans is not the same as the decision making process of the hiring committee. I cannot believe that those charged with replacing Willie Taggart would consider such a risky hire. It was different when they were replacing Fischer. They had two consecutive coaches that won titles, you could see how they might feel like FSU was bulletproof and anybody they brought in would be a success. If they hired Odell then you could see how they thought it would work. But after the reality of the Taggart era, they would be looking for the surest bet they could find.

They interviewed Odell for the job and were seriously considering him (mainly because of the cheapness). I think he was a very real candidate but we talked with and/or interviewed 19 coaches

 

[instaGATOR]

Liberal vs Conservative has nothing to do with credibility,,, it's straight up Lies vs Truth.

One America News Network (OAN) is the fastest growing program on cable.
IMO, it's because they have yet to be caught in a lie or any mis-information.
They are a conservative organization, but as I said, it's Lies vs Truth.

OAN is growing by leaps and bounds, while CNN and MSDNC are dying.
The phrase 'Fake News' didn't just spring out of nowhere, the MSM has earned it.

OAN is at 347 on Direct-TV, or go to OAN.com

 

[LizardGrad89]

They interviewed Odell for the job and were seriously considering him (mainly because of the cheapness). I think he was a very real candidate but we talked with and/or interviewed 19 coaches

I hear you, but the correct PR move for a candidate with popular support from fans is to treat him seriously so the fans felt they were heard, and you can always claim it was a tough decision if you get noise about him not getting the job, but ultimately you don't go with him.

 

[fsu939913]

I hear you, but the correct PR move for a candidate with popular support from fans is to treat him seriously so the fans felt they were heard, and you can always claim it was a tough decision if you get noise about him not getting the job, but ultimately you don't go with him.

Probably some truth to this as well

 

[LizardGrad89]

It's not that clear-cut or even-handed. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC all push outright lies and misinformation to try to continually undermine this President. That has been proven over and over the last 4 years.There is zero objectivity at all and they have no shame. Some of Fox's commentators do push a conservative agenda, but their news people like Brett Baier are pretty balanced, especially when compared to people like Wolf Biltzer, Lester Holt, Norah O'Donnell, David Muir and others who are supposed to be straight-up news reporters. That's what drives the left crazy. They don't want both sides of any issue reported. Just like on college campuses, the left doesn't want honest debate. They want their viewpoint to be the only one heard and anyone who disagrees with them has to be shut down. There is ZERO journalism in the lamestream media and while CNN & MSNBC are the chief offenders, the major networks aren't far behind. They have no credibility and the recent poll proves that the media is the least trusted on Covid-19. The only institution less trusted is Congress.

See, you need to go back and read the tweets and look at the videos where everything he claims is a "lie by the mainstream media" is actually exactly true.

Like this thing where he claims he never called the Coronavirus a hoax by the Democrats. I'm sure you believe all the people telling you he never said that.

But this is what he said:

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs, you say, 'How's President Trump doing?', 'Oh, nothing, nothing.' They have no clue, they don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa, they can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they've been doing it since he got in. It's all turning, they lost. It's all turning, think of it, think of it. And this is their new hoax."

So here's the problem. You've been hoodwinked. I strongly recommend you become a Doubting Thomas and check on these claims before you believe them. It will serve you well moving forward. Better than your blind trust does now.

 

[fsu939913]

See, you need to go back and read the tweets and look at the videos where everything he claims is a "lie by the mainstream media" is actually exactly true.

Like this thing where he claims he never called the Coronavirus a hoax by the Democrats. I'm sure you believe all the people telling you he never said that.

But this is what he said:

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs, you say, 'How's President Trump doing?', 'Oh, nothing, nothing.' They have no clue, they don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa, they can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they've been doing it since he got in. It's all turning, they lost. It's all turning, think of it, think of it. And this is their new hoax."

So here's the problem. You've been hoodwinked. I strongly recommend you become a Doubting Thomas and check on these claims before you believe them. It will serve you well moving forward. Better than your blind trust does now.

I was listening and when he said that he wasnt referring to the virus as a hoax.... Trump says lots of things and just like every president he says things incorrectly and then corrects them later. The MSM has done a horrible job of covering him as a president. Hes done some rly good things and some stupid things. Its so blatantly obvious to anyone who is non bias how the MSM treats him and lies about him. Its also obvious to any objective person that fox props him up more than normal (mainly hannity). The truth is, these "news" outlets dont even really have the full story the majority of the time and then give u their spin on it. My advice, if you are listening to the news for your info, you probably are not getting good information, you are getting pieces of information that then have a bias spin on them.

 

[fsu939913]

See, you need to go back and read the tweets and look at the videos where everything he claims is a "lie by the mainstream media" is actually exactly true.

Like this thing where he claims he never called the Coronavirus a hoax by the Democrats. I'm sure you believe all the people telling you he never said that.

But this is what he said:

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs, you say, 'How's President Trump doing?', 'Oh, nothing, nothing.' They have no clue, they don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa, they can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they've been doing it since he got in. It's all turning, they lost. It's all turning, think of it, think of it. And this is their new hoax."

So here's the problem. You've been hoodwinked. I strongly recommend you become a Doubting Thomas and check on these claims before you believe them. It will serve you well moving forward. Better than your blind trust does now.

He was referring to the dems criticizing his response as a new hoax. Read the very next line where he says we have 15 cases in the US....stop trying to hoodwink people...gaslighter

 

[fsu939913]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We passed China today

We have tested 8x more than the next 3 countries combined...which means we probably have the accurate count. Why other countries are letting this run wild. We will nvr get rid of this. We need the cure ASAP

 

[LizardGrad89]

He was referring to the dems criticizing his response as a new hoax. Read the very next line where he says we have 15 cases in the US....stop trying to hoodwink people...gaslighter

So you are saying the Corona virus IS a hoax? That we only have 15 people sick and it's all fake?

He was DOWNPLAYING the issue. He did it at least 6-7 times where he made light of the Corona virus in direct opposition to the CDC and WHO, and claimed it was the Dems trying to make a big deal out of nothing. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID AND MEANT AND HE DELAYED THIS COUNTRY TAKING ACTION WHICH HAS CAUSED MORE PEOPLE TO GET SICK AND DIE THAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

I'm not a gaslighter, but you ARE an idiot.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

I'm sitting at the house getting fat as heck.

I'm waiting on that check

 

[fsu939913]

So you are saying the Corona virus IS a hoax? That we only have 15 people sick and it's all fake?

He was DOWNPLAYING the issue. He did it at least 6-7 times where he made light of the Corona virus in direct opposition to the CDC and WHO, and claimed it was the Dems trying to make a big deal out of nothing. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID AND MEANT AND HE DELAYED THIS COUNTRY TAKING ACTION WHICH HAS CAUSED MORE PEOPLE TO GET SICK AND DIE THAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

I'm not a gaslighter, but you ARE an idiot.

Wtf r u saying? Do you not understand context? He was not saying that the corona virus is a hoax. Are you not mad at Obama for letti g 20k die to swine flu?40k a yr to the flu? Whats your acceptable limit of people dying? That is the question at hand. I saw Trump talk about closing borders when dems said it was racist and Sanders saying we should never close borders. U r clearly bias and just looking for a "Trump did somethi g bad here" which im fine with but when you accuse some1 of getting hoodwinked and you dont understand context....thats pretty bad.

 

[Countygator1]

So you are saying the Corona virus IS a hoax? That we only have 15 people sick and it's all fake?

He was DOWNPLAYING the issue. He did it at least 6-7 times where he made light of the Corona virus in direct opposition to the CDC and WHO, and claimed it was the Dems trying to make a big deal out of nothing. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID AND MEANT AND HE DELAYED THIS COUNTRY TAKING ACTION WHICH HAS CAUSED MORE PEOPLE TO GET SICK AND DIE THAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

I'm not a gaslighter, but you ARE an idiot.

He never called it a hoax, but he absolutely down played it. So did a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle. I'm more curious about what this looks like once we get on the other side. Cuamo said today that this shelter in place policy and shut everything down was the wrong strategy. We are learning a lot unfortunately.

 

[ocalaman]

LizardGrad has lost all credibility and has proven himself to be either ignorant or stupid. Either way, he's totally oblivious to any truth. Facts show that 90% or more of network news people vote Democrat and are proud of it. They push an agenda and readily admit it. Liberals acknowledge that 95% of the mainstream media is biased against our President and for anyone to try to claim that CNN, MSNBC and the major networks are even-handed and are giving people factual information is a complete and total moron.

 

[LizardGrad89]

LizardGrad has lost all credibility and has proven himself to be either ignorant or stupid. Either way, he's totally oblivious to any truth. Facts show that 90% or more of network news people vote Democrat and are proud of it. They push an agenda and readily admit it. Liberals acknowledge that 95% of the mainstream media is biased against our President and for anyone to try to claim that CNN, MSNBC and the major networks are even-handed and are giving people factual information is a complete and total moron.

You literally made that up. If anyone has lost credibility it's you.

Oh, wait, there are FACTS. Show me these FACTS. You can't, they are made up.

 

[fsu939913]

He never called it a hoax, but he absolutely down played it. So did a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle. I'm more curious about what this looks like once we get on the other side. Cuamo said today that this shelter in place policy and shut everything down was the wrong strategy. We are learning a lot unfortunately.

Eventually it could die out on its own if we all gain immunity to it from getting it. Thats a possibility and the other possibility is getting a cure. However, we just need it to not mutate so fast, which its done multiple times

 

[ocalaman]

You literally made that up. If anyone has lost credibility it's you.

Oh, wait, there are FACTS. Show me these FACTS. You can't, they are made up.

Read these FACTS bubba. 96% of media donations in the 2016 election went to Hillary Clinton.
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_97_percent_of_journalist_donations_go_to_Democrats

The mainstream press is way left of the public on virtually every issue. It's been that way for a long time and has gotten worse.

You truly are clueless.

 

[fsu939913]

Read these FACTS bubba. 96% of media donations in the 2016 election went to Hillary Clinton.
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_97_percent_of_journalist_donations_go_to_Democrats

The mainstream press is way left of the public on virtually every issue. It's been that way for a long time and has gotten worse.

You truly are clueless.

The media backs liberals....i didnt even think that was part of the discussion. That is common knowledge. Which is fine but for someone not to realize that bias...thats what scares me. There are people out there who actually believe the media is straight down the middle. Its scary.

 

[SwampLander]

LizardGrad has lost all credibility and has proven himself to be either ignorant or stupid. Either way, he's totally oblivious to any truth. Facts show that 90% or more of network news people vote Democrat and are proud of it. They push an agenda and readily admit it. Liberals acknowledge that 95% of the mainstream media is biased against our President and for anyone to try to claim that CNN, MSNBC and the major networks are even-handed and are giving people factual information is a complete and total moron.

LMFAO! You are truly clueless. Trumptv(Faux News)is nothing more than state tv.

 

[LizardGrad89]

The media backs liberals....i didnt even think that was part of the discussion. That is common knowledge. Which is fine but for someone not to realize that bias...thats what scares me. There are people out there who actually believe the media is straight down the middle. Its scary.

News, real news, is straight down the middle. Editorials are not. Fox is the channel that for 20+ years has been putting editorials out there as if they were real news. And, sadly, having ratings success. And because Fox news disguises editorials as news none of you can now tell the difference between news and editorials. This is why you think the news is slanted. It's not slanted. But the other channels have copied the Fox platform to an extent, and you can't tell the difference.

I don't suppose any of you remember CNN Headline News. All the news in an hour, repeated every hour, with break-ins for breaking news. That was how the news was before Fox. CNN used to be like that until they had to change their format to combat Fox. That's why they split the channel.

But here's where it gets amusing. You all have bought into this huge lie that American Media is liberal. But I think Fox News alone shows the lie to that statement. And the videos I posted above, show one example of large conservative media companies that own our local stations and push their messages through. Did any of you watch the videos? I just don't understand why any of you continue to believe the lie that America has a liberal media that "plain folks like you" have to fight against. The media is mostly conservative today, isn't it? I mean, is there anybody here that can't turn to any of a dozen conservative news sites to get your daily fix?

It's sad none of you understand the John Birch Society and how this is all part of their long game. This country has veered sharply to the right in the past 40 years, to the point that viewpoints that were once considered conservative to the point of reactionary are now seen as extremely liberal.

I think that Ocalaman and Grommit and a few others in here need to step back and look at the reality that they are agreeing with FSU numbers about politics, and a bigger idiot you simply cannot find. Edit: I apologize for this last statement. Uncalled for.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Read these FACTS bubba. 96% of media donations in the 2016 election went to Hillary Clinton.
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_97_percent_of_journalist_donations_go_to_Democrats

The mainstream press is way left of the public on virtually every issue. It's been that way for a long time and has gotten worse.

You truly are clueless.

These charts are a good joke. I could make some up as well with entirely different numbers. Freedom Forum? Media Elite? You got anything from, oh, say, Gallup? And really, pulling 40 year old info. Give me a break.

As to the ballotopedia markup, it actually says that 94% of the IDENTIFIED 124 journalists gave money to the Democrats. Funny thing is, there are over 32,000 journalists in this country just in newspapers. How many in tv and internet, not to mention radio? Probably at least as many. So you have 115 donors out of what, 70,000 journalists? Do you honestly think these conservative leaning companies, with AN AGENDA TO PUSH, actually looked up all 70,000 names? Or did they have a list of specific names, like Wolf Blitzer, they were looking for?

Do you see how easily you get hoodwinked by these claims? Wake up man, you are being led around by the nose.

 

[sadgator]

Not a discussion for this board.

But you have it exactly backwards. Fox News and other conservative news organizations are the distributors of propaganda, I'm going to give you two youtube videos concerning Sinclair Communications, a conservative news organization, and what they had their member stations do, and why they did it. Then maybe you will begin to see.

View embedded media

View embedded media

That is incredible.

 

[SwampLander]

TRUMP disgusts ME! There is not a SINGLE redeeming character quality I would want my kids or grandkids to emulate. He proved to be a fraudulent businessman, promotes nepotism, bangs porn stars while married and could never begin to speak truth if his worthless life depends on it. The sooner this fraud is kicked out of office the better.

 

[sadgator]

Trump absolutely unequivocally never insinuated that the coming threat of the Coronavirus pandemic was a hoax...

Shame on the “mainstream” media for suggesting otherwise...

 

[sadgator]

... bangs porn stars...

Well...there’s a few things sadgator can’t fault him for...

 

[instaGATOR]

TRUMP disgusts ME! There is not a SINGLE redeeming character quality I would want my kids or grandkids to emulate. He proved to be a fraudulent businessman, promotes nepotism, bangs porn stars while married and could never begin to speak truth if his worthless life depends on it. The sooner this fraud is kicked out of office the better.

Now how about the same kind of rundown on the Dim-Moe-Rats....

Joe and nepotism cocaine/dead-beat Dad Hunter with their Ukraine and China corruptions. Both should already be in jail.

Nancy (the Wicked Witch of the West) and her nepotism son Paul also in Ukraine.
Russian Collusion, 30+ Million and 2+ years of wasted time, ending in failure.
Ukraine Pro-Co / Briber Impeachment BS, another waste of time & $$ to fail again.
Back-loading the Co-V bill with a Ton of Dim-Moe-Rat Pork, while holding relief money hostage for her own political socialist goals.

Bernie (communist / socialist) traitor to his Oath of Office Sanders.
(As a combat decorated veteran, I'd put him on a wall with a firing squat).
Constantly bagged on millionaires, at least until be became one with 4 houses.
Another Limousine Liberal that has the platform of (Do what I tell you, not what I do).

Pamela Harris, who's own father owned slaves in her lifetime.
Should be in jail for her support of 'Ponzi Scheme' business dealings.

Lizzy Warren - Pocahontas liar, ran a predatory real estate business with family nepotism help. Also lied about being fired for being pregnant. Confirmed long term liar.

Dianne Feinstein - Had a Chinese chauffeur for 20 years that was feeding info to the Communist Chinese government. Where is he now? What consequences has she faced for not properly vetting that communist spy?

And as with so many other stories of importance to the American citizens, silence from the Fake News MSM, the known propaganda arm of the DNC leftist / socialists).

And that is just the 'tip of the iceberg,' not an in-depth study for the Rats.
========

And now you might want to actually list what Trump has done as the elected President, instead of what he might have done before times as a private citizen.
I was never a fan of the person, but I am of the office holder so far.

~ Crevate to that being his signing that socialist Co-V bail-out bill that was back loaded with a freakin' TON of Dim-Moe-Rat Pork...
IMO, he's now gone from 'draining the swamp' to drowning in it....

Now I'll wait while you assemble ALL of there many 'redeeming qualities' for us...

 

[fsu939913]

News, real news, is straight down the middle. Editorials are not. Fox is the channel that for 20+ years has been putting editorials out there as if they were real news. And, sadly, having ratings success. And because Fox news disguises editorials as news none of you can now tell the difference between news and editorials. This is why you think the news is slanted. It's not slanted. But the other channels have copied the Fox platform to an extent, and you can't tell the difference.

I don't suppose any of you remember CNN Headline News. All the news in an hour, repeated every hour, with break-ins for breaking news. That was how the news was before Fox. CNN used to be like that until they had to change their format to combat Fox. That's why they split the channel.

But here's where it gets amusing. You all have bought into this huge lie that American Media is liberal. But I think Fox News alone shows the lie to that statement. And the videos I posted above, show one example of large conservative media companies that own our local stations and push their messages through. Did any of you watch the videos? I just don't understand why any of you continue to believe the lie that America has a liberal media that "plain folks like you" have to fight against. The media is mostly conservative today, isn't it? I mean, is there anybody here that can't turn to any of a dozen conservative news sites to get your daily fix?

It's sad none of you understand the John Birch Society and how this is all part of their long game. This country has veered sharply to the right in the past 40 years, to the point that viewpoints that were once considered conservative to the point of reactionary are now seen as extremely liberal.

I think that Ocalaman and Grommit and a few others in here need to step back and look at the reality that they are agreeing with FSU numbers about politics, and a bigger idiot you simply cannot find. Edit: I apologize for this last statement. Uncalled for.

Not a problem on the name calling, im not offended by that. My problem with politics is this, its like religion, people are stuck in their beliefs no matter how many facts are presented. Im not "conservative" or "liberal" but i do tend to lean more with conservatives on issues. I like my guns, killing baies is not ok, and foreign policy of liberals is lets help every other country. Now with conservatives i dont like their policies on immigration or climate (a wall? We dont need one). Then comes the issue of media. An independent company found that CNN was negative towards trump 96% of the time where fox was neagtive 51% of the time. My issue with what you are saying is "fox is bad" is that you are painting with broad brush becuz you are told to. The fact is there are some very fair down the middle reporters on fox (BB) and there are some extremist (Hannity). Same can be said about CNN and PMSNBC. Tapper, Cuomo, gay black guy(cant think of his name) all lean left and lean heavily left. I find Cooper to be pretty reasonable from time to time. However, my biggest gripe with you is saying that the media does not lean left, it 100% does. Watch project varetos(sp?) and listen to what some of these people say behind closed doors. Some MSM is very fair and calls the president on things he should be called on but they also say stupid thi gs like "hes a racist becuz he called it the chinese virus". That is bias reporting si ce nearly every virus MERS, ebola, spanish flu, etc were ALL named after its origin.

Its interesting that you say you think the country has gone more conservative over the last 40 yrs. I feel its gone the other way. What i have found tho is most people are just good people, for instance, sadgator and i disagree on pretty much everything, football, religion, politics, tom bradys sexiness....but i guarantee him and I would be friends if we met in real life. I judge people off of who they are. If you think people are being manipulated by fox, thats fine, i personally think everybody is manipulated by the media (left and right). I especially think the media plays on the fear of minorities (blks, browns, women). I think media in todays time is garbage, its completely bias one way or the other and you rly have to search for someone who can be the least bias.