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I want Trump. Harris would be an absolute disaster for this country. But I’m scared she’s gonna win for one reason, Trump hatred.
I’m disgusted in the overall process that has brought us to this point.
I think Trump would do a good job, but his personality is turned off so many people and the negative news coverage and bitter vitriol against him has convinced the less educated voters that is somehow evil.
I’m extremely concerned for our country and the events that led us to this point. This is the least democratic process I have ever seen in my lifetime.
I’m disgusted in the overall process that has brought us to this point.
I think Trump would do a good job, but his personality is turned off so many people and the negative news coverage and bitter vitriol against him has convinced the less educated voters that is somehow evil.
I’m extremely concerned for our country and the events that led us to this point. This is the least democratic process I have ever seen in my lifetime.
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Maybe so, but I am pretty good at math. When the stole the last election, Trump lost by 40k votes in 4 states (total). He is WAY up with the. black vote, hispanics, young people, unions. Secondly the economy sucks, we are teetering on WWIII and our Country has been willfully open on the southern border that almost everyone is suffering from. I believe the media is lying to everyone. I do not buy the polls.
I think Harris wins.
She is being slickly packaged and Trump and his team seem out of sync. He has had many opportunities to overcome some of the hate but it's just not his style.
I really hope I'm wrong.
She is being slickly packaged and Trump and his team seem out of sync. He has had many opportunities to overcome some of the hate but it's just not his style.
I really hope I'm wrong.
I think Trump eeks out a win. It should not even be this close but the billionaires and media have thrown the kitchen sink at protecting the village idiot Harris. Tyrannical socialism is a failed construct but we are a nation full of low information voters. Most of those don't understand what their goals are, and then we have idiots who do know but are evil people. It's shocking how many of the latter matriculated through UF.
I fear KH may win but Trump’s campaign is once again a mystery as to missed opportunities and failure to stay on issues and policies that resonate with voters.
If he can’t make a strong close then frankly we all lose - we should always have had two good candidates to choose from. The real loser is America. 🇺🇸
If he can’t make a strong close then frankly we all lose - we should always have had two good candidates to choose from. The real loser is America. 🇺🇸
It comes down to election integrity.
If we have a clean election Trump will win in a landslide. Polling indicates that he’s probably got a 5-10pt lead given his historical tendency to outperform polls, and if you look just at swing states it’s hard to see how he’ll lose.
But I don’t think we’ve fixed enough from 2020. They’re going to try to convince us she got something like 85mm votes.
Kamala is a terrible politician and the more she’s out there the more she slips. None of this week’s appearances will help her in polls being taken right now. I expect Trumps lead will increase by early Oct unless she goes back into hiding.
If we have a clean election Trump will win in a landslide. Polling indicates that he’s probably got a 5-10pt lead given his historical tendency to outperform polls, and if you look just at swing states it’s hard to see how he’ll lose.
But I don’t think we’ve fixed enough from 2020. They’re going to try to convince us she got something like 85mm votes.
Kamala is a terrible politician and the more she’s out there the more she slips. None of this week’s appearances will help her in polls being taken right now. I expect Trumps lead will increase by early Oct unless she goes back into hiding.
The fact this election is so close shows the GOP candidate is the weakest the party could have put on the ballot. Trump has his 40% and we will vote for him no matter what but he has to win the independent vote. And he has to win it big because of the Democrat machine.
Since Trump took over the party it has been one defeat after another in the House and Senate although GOP governors have survived after he attacked them. That is the good news but the GOP must take back the House and Senate and that is very questionable with Trump endorsing people like Kari Lake and attacking Steve Garvey.
If Trump fails again it is time for the GOP to do some soul searching and reorganize the party. Trump can't be allowed to run again in 2028 or appoint Don, Jr. 2024 is an election the GOP should not lose. Harris is a disaster and her VP pick is even worse. But Trump has so much baggage and is hated by half of the nation so it will not be easy. We could have done better but it is what it is.
We have to figure a way to get him over the finish line in spite of his nonsense. It is important.
Since Trump took over the party it has been one defeat after another in the House and Senate although GOP governors have survived after he attacked them. That is the good news but the GOP must take back the House and Senate and that is very questionable with Trump endorsing people like Kari Lake and attacking Steve Garvey.
If Trump fails again it is time for the GOP to do some soul searching and reorganize the party. Trump can't be allowed to run again in 2028 or appoint Don, Jr. 2024 is an election the GOP should not lose. Harris is a disaster and her VP pick is even worse. But Trump has so much baggage and is hated by half of the nation so it will not be easy. We could have done better but it is what it is.
We have to figure a way to get him over the finish line in spite of his nonsense. It is important.
And the dead will be voting for Harris.
I don’t buy that crap this time. If Trump loses this time, it’s his own fault. He had so many opportunities and he just hasn’t really done a good job so far since Biden dropped out.
We need to stop blaming everybody else when we lose
it comes to how much cheating the Democrats are going to be able to get away with, there's a threshold of 3 to 5%. That's pretty much built-in for all of those people in swing states that have not been removed from the voter rolls. You are crazy if you think this is going to be a secure election. I mean seriously I out of your mind crazy. I am hoping that people recognize what a brain dead incompetent moron. Kamala Harris is and vote accordingly and it's enough to overcome the cheating threshold ...
Trump unless things change. I think he will get the combo he needs. PA, NC and GA locks it up or if he lost GA and won NC then PA along with 2 out of 3 of AZ, WI and NV would do it. He also has the GA, NC, AZ and WI path. A 269 tie is possible if Harris swept those 3 northern states and Trump could win NE-2 but if he won there it's likely he already has 270 so I doubt it can happen.
Main reason I think he wins is Harris isn't as strong as Biden with working class whites and young males black and white seem to be moving to Trump more than they did in 2020.
Main reason I think he wins is Harris isn't as strong as Biden with working class whites and young males black and white seem to be moving to Trump more than they did in 2020.
AZ Supreme Court just ruled that 90k voters whose citizenship can’t be verified eligible to vote.
Witmer has made it illegal to recount election results
Michigan Passes Laws Restricting Election Recounts for Fraud Allegations and Wide-Margin Victories
Read more here.
www.democracydocket.com
Benson is threatening electors against challenging fraud in elections (while refusing to clean the rolls).
Wisconsin is allowing the same drop boxes as 2020.
Brian Kemp is trying to remove Election Board members who want to fix their election issues.
So believe whatever “crap” you want to, but Democrats and RINO’s are paving the way for another 2020. If you think the issues from 2020 have been fixed you have no clue what you’re talking about.
That’s the only possible reason she would ever win. She’s a terrible candidate and can’t articulate her policies. The media gaslighting her as a viable candidate is unbelievable but not unexpected.
Well, that’s interesting because if she did and was able to articulate her policies, no one would vote for her because she has terrible policies that are basically all communist. The FCC chair just lambasted her for having a $42 billion Internet access project that hasn’t even gotten off the ground yet or connected one person to the Internet. She is perhaps the most incompetent person to serve in the last 20 to 30 years. And she has probably supplanted John Kerry as our worst American states person. My Lord. is she an idiot …
Okey-dokey, pokeyAZ Supreme Court just ruled that 90k voters whose citizenship can’t be verified eligible to vote.
Witmer has made it illegal to recount election results
Michigan Passes Laws Restricting Election Recounts for Fraud Allegations and Wide-Margin Victories
Read more here.
Benson is threatening electors against challenging fraud in elections (while refusing to clean the rolls).
Wisconsin is allowing the same drop boxes as 2020.
Brian Kemp is trying to remove Election Board members who want to fix their election issues.
So believe whatever “crap” you want to, but Democrats and RINO’s are paving the way for another 2020. If you think the issues from 2020 have been fixed you have no clue what you’re talking about.
That’s the problem she has an articulated crap and a few times she has spoken. She sounded ridiculous and we all know she’s an ultra liberal California democrat that’s basically a socialist. And she’s too uneducated to understand how our policies will destroy our economy
She’s an absolute terrible choice
But the Democrats help with the media I’ve done a wonderful job of hiding from the more ignorant voter
And whether you wanna believe the cheating is the reason that’s up to you, but the reality is Republicans have done a crappy job helping America define what Harris really is and Republicans have done a crappy job. There was a time when the Republicans could affectively fight the media through public radio, but they’ve lost ground there
I don’t condone what she does occur and I don’t condone a liberal biased press that supports one side over the other, but it’s income upon the Republican party to fix this and if they don’t, this will continue to happen.
I don’t disagree with your premise at all, and you are absolutely right. The Republicans could do a much better job of messaging, but their problem is they have no balls and no backbone when it comes down to it and are incapable of articulating what they can do for America. I’m not sure why they get a free pass, however, this isn’t even the less of two evils the Democrats are just evil and will cheat as much as they need to win the ends. Do not need to justify the means.
I have never seen more lying just outright falsification than what I have seen in Kamala Harris‘s TV ads. It’s sickening disgusting and immoral how much she lies but the Republicans need to make sure that people hear that these are lies and I don’t think the messaging is getting through. She is just a nightmare. …
Well thought out and articulate response.
If you don’t think fraud at a 5%-7% level isn’t outcome changing you’re not worth debating politics with.
If it’s not “too big to rig” it doesn’t matter how many “opportunities Trump misses”, because we effectively have one party rule.
Oh, she absolutely doesn’t want people to know what she actually thinks and her actual policies. The media gaslighting of her being even remotely competent is laughableAZ Supreme Court just ruled that 90k voters whose citizenship can’t be verified eligible to vote.
Witmer has made it illegal to recount election results
Michigan Passes Laws Restricting Election Recounts for Fraud Allegations and Wide-Margin Victories
Read more here.
Benson is threatening electors against challenging fraud in elections (while refusing to clean the rolls).
Wisconsin is allowing the same drop boxes as 2020.
Brian Kemp is trying to remove Election Board members who want to fix their election issues.
So believe whatever “crap” you want to, but Democrats and RINO’s are paving the way for another 2020. If you think the issues from 2020 have been fixed you have no clue what you’re talking about.
I think that 90k deal in AZ was just some system screw up. The Dems fighting them being allowed to vote in the state and local races tells me most affected by it were Reps.
The incompetent Secretary of State, who this occurred under Hobbs is now the governor. And yes, she is just as incompetent as governor. She’s a ****ing moron.
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Trump attacks the GOP RINOs because they deserve it. The McCains, the Flakes, the Kinzingers, the Cheneys. They are the enemy of the citizens of the USA because they are complicit with the DemocRats. Trump has no filter and sometimes I cringe but gunboat diplomacy is needed when playing nice in the sandbox has been abject failure.
Yep the GOPe crooks are trying to help Harris win. They know if Trump wins here they can't take the party back.
You just are not getting it. Our part is 90% of the party. We are NEVER going back to establishment politicians. Trump has changed the party forever. And I notice you never mention why he is hated. 93% of the media attacks and lies about him. The alphabet agencies hate him. THEY are the problem. Not Trump. When you are ANYONE else lets your dislike for a candidate outweigh a communist/fascist idiot who purposely opened our borders for 31/2 years, caused rampant inflation, and made so many horrible decisions that we are bordering on WWIII there needs to be a SERIOUS check up from the neck up. TWO CHOICES. TRUMP. or the commie hooker. I hope people have more brains than to lose America and her freedoms forever because off their stupidity
I laugh at some GOPe saying weak candidate also when none of their candidates would have any chance in MI, PA and WI. Their absolute ceiling if they were able to somehow reach it would be a 269 tie if they won NE-2 and every other close swing state. Doubt they could pull that off looking at Romney 2012 since a few of those states have trended bad since then.
Jesus you guys live in a fantasy world.
Every excuse in the book and never face the real problem. Smdh.
Every excuse in the book and never face the real problem. Smdh.
Which is? Please enlighten us ...
Maybe you live in an area that really is 90% Trump and if so that explains how/why that idiot Matt Gaetz keeps getting elected in your district.
But that’s a bubble over where you live. My friends who are Republicans and I are not strong Trumpers. And we are not RINOS either. We just think that the Party has better options. Most will hold their noses and vote against Kamala because she is an idiot and a danger. We had four years of Trump and Americans were better off. None of us need an abortion and we’re more concerned with the economy and the future of the world.
Do I think that the Dems have succeeded in dumbing down younger voters? Yep. And that’s the big danger.
Why would a Trump presidency be any different than last time? If anything it'd be much better since he learned to get rid of those deep staters who hamstrung him last time. Wall gets finished, illegals deported in decent #s, etc.
Kamala would be way worse than the current shitshow. She is stupid, evil and beyond incompetent.
Choice is easy for any thinking person who loves America ...
We need to purge the GOPe uni-party crooks from the party. They actively try to elect Dems when the races are MAGA v Dems. They are 100% crooks. If Trump wins this time they are effectively fully neutered though.
Just spitballing, but here's what a Kamala presidency looks like:
unprecedented American weakness globally
weakened military with DEI everywhere
reparations for anyone affiliated with slavery even remotely or not at all
taxing unrealized cap gains
Billions more to the grift known as Ukraine
Stopping or slowing the sale of arms to Israel (she's pro-hamas)
Many palestinian refugees relocated to various parts of the US
Billions to rebuild Gaza (not our fight, not our responsibility)
truly open borders with Mexico (won't bother pretending there even is one)
price freezes on food (see Venezuela)
staggering inflation
totalitarian censorship of disparate opinions (Biden being sued for that right now)
jailing of political opponents (J6 was just the start)
etc., etc., etc.
buckle up if she wins ...
unprecedented American weakness globally
weakened military with DEI everywhere
reparations for anyone affiliated with slavery even remotely or not at all
taxing unrealized cap gains
Billions more to the grift known as Ukraine
Stopping or slowing the sale of arms to Israel (she's pro-hamas)
Many palestinian refugees relocated to various parts of the US
Billions to rebuild Gaza (not our fight, not our responsibility)
truly open borders with Mexico (won't bother pretending there even is one)
price freezes on food (see Venezuela)
staggering inflation
totalitarian censorship of disparate opinions (Biden being sued for that right now)
jailing of political opponents (J6 was just the start)
etc., etc., etc.
buckle up if she wins ...
And work HARD to put the House AND Senate in GOP hands.
If Republicans lose all three then yes we as Americans really are screwed.
If Republicans lose all three then yes we as Americans really are screwed.
Fevered Brain, check out 538 polling included with the interactive electoral count. You can select your choices for electoral vote winners by state. It's a great site to watch the path to 270. I think if Trump can pull off PA, it's a lock for sanity and America.
It just baffles me that people are so stupid to vote straight ticket Democrat. I mean, I don't even like some of the GOP candidates, but it's down to sane vs pure evil.
What if you don't like America and want to fundamentally transform it? Then it makes perfect sense to vote democrat.
Then you vote commie like BScuck, MDFer, Auntie Doreen, Gator Speed, Kal, Jimbusdumbass, and a whole bunch of other fodder I've thankfully forgotten their handles.
