Winston I don’t think would even be in the top 10. Tebow I’m assuming is high up there. Vince Young? Matt Leinhart?
Depending on the metrics, you may have to throw Cam Newton in there.
Winston isn’t even the best college QB that has played at FSU. Ward was better.
Tebow is up there for sure. Not rly sure who i would take between him and Jameis (depends on system i guess), Tebow was unstoppable in college and it was mind numbingly frustrating. He was one of the best passer/running QBs of all time in college. I would even put him ahead of Vick becuz he was so effective at both, it was just crazy. Every 3rd and 4 or less i rolled my eyes becuz i knew he was going to get 5. In any spread system i think Tebow is the best, pro style im taking Jameis
Also, link the article dumbass
Winston isn’t even the best college QB that has played at FSU. Ward was better.
I guess this list didn’t include Winston in the top 10 either.
This publication has Wuerffell as #1, Tebow at #5. Interesting
https://www.sportscasting.com/greatest-quarterbacks-in-college-football-history-2/
And Ranker adjusts as more and more people vote. Tebow is #1 on this list.
https://www.ranker.com/list/all-time-college-football-quarterbacks/ranker-college-football
Winston isn’t even the best college QB that has played at FSU. Ward was better.
I guess this list didn’t include Winston in the top 10 either.
Ward all day over Winston.Lol again. Winston is easily better than War, not even a question. Had winston stayed, he probably would have won 1 or 2 more titles. Even as bad as the Oregon mauling was, we literally played our worst game with fumbles ever, Oregon could not stop us, we kept stopping ourselves, granted we couldnt stop them either. Winston is easily top 5, easily. It does depend on system but their isnt one pro style QB that i would take over him(dont say Leinhart and make me laugh). Spread/option, im taking tebow.
This publication has Wuerffell as #1, Tebow at #5. Interesting
https://www.sportscasting.com/greatest-quarterbacks-in-college-football-history-2/
And Ranker adjusts as more and more people vote. Tebow is #1 on this list.
https://www.ranker.com/list/all-time-college-football-quarterbacks/ranker-college-football
Winston never broke over 300 yards rushing. Ward did that twice including a 500 plus yard season...back before any spread type offense was being played.For reference, ward barely broke throwing for 3k yds once while Winston broke the NCAA single season record for points scored in a season by any offense..... It is not rly close
Ward all day over Winston.
Tommie Frazier is the college GOAT
Not far behind are Tim Tebow and Charlie Ward.
Have to disagree with you on that TN but Frazier is up there....he ran the option like a boss. They were unstoppable in 94, 95 I thinkTommie Frazier is the college GOAT
Not far behind are Tim Tebow and Charlie Ward.
That 95 Nebraska team made our undefeated Gators look silly in the national title game. Frazier was great, but not the GOAT IMO. But it's all subjective.Have to disagree with you on that TN but Frazier is up there....he ran the option like a boss. They were unstoppable in 94, 95 I think
He was tough as nails too. People undervalue how hard that run of SEC Titles was to pull off...don't ever mention that name.
and I'd still take Danny. He had an incredibly prolific career. If I recall, didnt he finish his career as the all time leader in TDs? 4 SEC titles, back-to-back title appearances with a win, a Heisman, and tons of trophies.
it's a shame he gets forgotten
I agree!
I have the following ranked as FSU's best QB's:
1. Charlie Ward
2. Chris Weinke
3. Jameis Winston
While Winston had a stellar season (4000 y, 40 TDs 10 Ints) in the year that FSU had won the national title, in the following year, Winston's TD:Int ratio (25:18) was mediocre. One could see the flaws in Winston's game and his penchant for committing numerous turnovers which was the opposite of what Ward had done.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jameis-winston-1.html
Had FSU won in 2000 against Oklahoma, Chris Weinke would have been unquestionably been rated as FSU's best overall quarterback. From 1998 to 2000, Weinke had three good years at FSU and had them in position to play in 3-straight BCS title games. (Edit: Both Weinke and Winston threw for 4000 yards in their Heisman winning campaigns). https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-weinke-1.html
In his Heisman winning season, Charlie Ward was steady, efficient and did not turn the ball over - only 4 ints that year.https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/charlie-ward-1.html
I agree!
I have the following ranked as FSU's best QB's:
1. Charlie Ward
2. Chris Weinke
3. Jameis Winston
While Winston had a stellar season (4000 y, 40 TDs 10 Ints) in the year that FSU had won the national title, in the following year, Winston's TD:Int ratio (25:18) was mediocre. One could see the flaws in Winston's game and his penchant for committing numerous turnovers which was the opposite of what Ward had done.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jameis-winston-1.html
Had FSU won in 2000 against Oklahoma, Chris Weinke would have been unquestionably been rated as FSU's best overall quarterback. From 1998 to 2000, Weinke had three good years at FSU and had them in position to play in 3-straight BCS title games. (Edit: Both Weinke and Winston threw for 4000 yards in their Heisman winning campaigns). https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-weinke-1.html
In his Heisman winning season, Charlie Ward was steady, efficient and did not turn the ball over - only 4 ints that year.https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/charlie-ward-1.html
It has always baffled me that Weinke never gets consideration on these type of lists. He was, without question, one of the most successful college QBs ever. Three year starter, led his team to the championship game all three years (injured late in the season of the first, they very likely win it that year if he doesn’t get hurt).
We got destroyed...couldn't stop the option.That 95 Nebraska team made our undefeated Gators look silly in the national title game. Frazier was great, but not the GOAT IMO. But it's all subjective.
Tebow, and it's not even close imo.
As a true Fr in the NC game, he had more TD's as the backup than that years Heisman QB had. Tim had 1 rushing and 1 passing, while Heisman pretender Troy Smith had zero.
I got banned from the tOSU board for saying that if Troy was at UF, he'd be 3rd string.
Tim was the 1st underclassman to be awarded the Heisman.
Threw for 1 less TD than Peyton, while throwing less than 1/2 of the interceptions.
And that was with Peyton as a 4 year starter, while Tim was a starter for just 3.
Just going from memory here, might be off by 1-2 -- Peyton 89/37 - Tm 88/16
Danny Wonderful 114/3 = 125 -- Tim 88/55 = 142 (memory only again)
(Anyone interested is free to look up the exact-- correct numbers)
When he graduated, he held the SEC All Time Record QBR.
When he graduated, he held the SEC All Time Record for rushing TD's, any position.
He became the 1st QB in NCAA History to break the season 20/20 TD barrier:
And he didn't just break it, he shattered it with 32-P + 23-R = 55 TD's.
Finally, departing he helped bring UF another NC by outplaying another Heisman pretender QB.
I believe that Tim is still the only QB to be a Top 3 Finalist for the Heisman 3 times, winning it once. The 2 times he didn't get it he should have, because the winners played in a Conf. that's known for it's lack of any quality defense.
There's much more, but that alone should cover it....![]()
You probably meant to say Tebow was the first sophmore to ever win the HeismanYou're right but we're ahead of Ole Miss, TN, UGA will be ready to play...FSU is going to take a year... but this is big time football.
For reference, ward barely broke throwing for 3k yds once while Winston broke the NCAA single season record for points scored in a season by any offense..... It is not rly close
it's really hard to, different teams and match ups...who had the best roster, some good ones from every era, just opinionsCan't really compare stats from different eras.
Jeez... who gives a f***? What qb that played 2-3 real games a season for a tainted program is the best? I wonder how good other qb’s would be if they got to play a bunch of average hs teams for weeks in a row before playing one of the few actual teams on their schedule. Everyone who was cowardly enough to go there should have an asterisk by their name for being a front running Prima Donna and none should ever be seen in any list of accomplishments. If I got to add my stats from practice I would have had pretty impressive stats as well.I agree!
I have the following ranked as FSU's best QB's:
1. Charlie Ward
2. Chris Weinke
3. Jameis Winston
While Winston had a stellar season (4000 y, 40 TDs 10 Ints) in the year that FSU had won the national title, in the following year, Winston's TD:Int ratio (25:18) was mediocre. One could see the flaws in Winston's game and his penchant for committing numerous turnovers which was the opposite of what Ward had done.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jameis-winston-1.html
Had FSU won in 2000 against Oklahoma, Chris Weinke would have been unquestionably been rated as FSU's best overall quarterback. From 1998 to 2000, Weinke had three good years at FSU and had them in position to play in 3-straight BCS title games. (Edit: Both Weinke and Winston threw for 4000 yards in their Heisman winning campaigns). https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-weinke-1.html
In his Heisman winning season, Charlie Ward was steady, efficient and did not turn the ball over - only 4 ints that year.https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/charlie-ward-1.html
I have not and will never forget Danny Wonderful.don't ever mention that name.
and I'd still take Danny. He had an incredibly prolific career. If I recall, didnt he finish his career as the all time leader in TDs? 4 SEC titles, back-to-back title appearances with a win, a Heisman, and tons of trophies.
it's a shame he gets forgotten