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Who was the best college QB of all time?

Why do the people who write these have such a hard time keeping NFL careers out of it. The 2 align on occasion but often not.

Tom Brady wouldn’t be in the top 200 all time CFB QBs.

And guys like Frazier, Tebow and Young weren’t NFL guys but elite college guys.

just my 2 cents
 
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Michi_Gator said:
Why do the people who write these have such a hard time keeping NFL careers out of it. The 2 align on occasion but often not.

Tom Brady wouldn’t be in the top 200 all time CFB QBs.

And guys like Frazier, Tebow and Young weren’t NFL guys but elite college guys.

just my 2 cents
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Little known or intentionally overlooked facts:

Tim Tebow won an NFL Playoff game in his 15th NFL career start with the Bronco's.
And that was after St. John El'Dimway traded away his top 2 WR's.

It took Peyton Manning 30-something games as the Bronco's QB to win an NFL Playoff game, even after St. John El'Dimway built a team around him for just that purpose.
 
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instaGATOR said:
Little known or intentionally overlooked facts:

Tim Tebow won an NFL Playoff game in his 15th NFL career start with the Bronco's.
And that was after St. John El'Dimway traded away his top 2 WR's.

It took Peyton Manning 30-something games as the Bronco's QB to win an NFL Playoff game, even after St. John El'Dimway built a team around him for just that purpose.
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I very much remember jumping off my couch when he threw the 80 yard slant for a TD against Pitt in OT.

However, he had a less than average NFL career, and yes I believe partly because teams feared his media attention.

Nonetheless, greatest college QB, sub-par pro
 
Michi_Gator said:
I very much remember jumping off my couch when he threw the 80 yard slant for a TD against Pitt in OT.

However, he had a less than average NFL career, and yes I believe partly because teams feared his media attention.

Nonetheless, greatest college QB, sub-par pro
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agreed. Oddly enough, 5...10 years later, the league would have given him much more of a chance. 2010 was exactly welcoming to dual-threat QB based offenses at the time.
 
I will never ever be able to judge a QB in college to how they will be in the NFL. I for sure thought that Matt Leinart would have a near stat wise Peyton Manning type career. I thought Vince Young would at least have near the career that Randall Cunningham had. That Tim Tebow would still be playing to this day and be nothing but the first Tim Tebow who the game evolved around. I figured Chris Leak would have at least been a veteran back up type career like Shane Matthews had despite his height. Just to name a few. How Leinart was the starter at USC over Matt Cassel and Mark Sanchez but never had the pro tenure made me realize I am not even a good arm chair NFL QB evaluator.
 
Michi_Gator said:
I very much remember jumping off my couch when he threw the 80 yard slant for a TD against Pitt in OT.

However, he had a less than average NFL career, and yes I believe partly because teams feared his media attention.

Nonetheless, greatest college QB, sub-par pro
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Why don't you list the complete QB stats of these 3 QB's in their first 16 NFL starts, so that you and everyone else can decide on the actual facts of the matter. o_O

St. John El'Dimway
Pettie-pie Manning
Tim Tebow

~~ Keeping in mind that El'Dimway traded away the Broncos top 2 WR's and let his choice of a 7th year NFL Vet go 1-4, before he finally (under fan pressure) put Tim in as the starter.
 
Dannygator1989 said:
agreed. Oddly enough, 5...10 years later, the league would have given him much more of a chance. 2010 was exactly welcoming to dual-threat QB based offenses at the time.
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Maybe. But that 47% career completion rate was an albatross. Today you have to be pushing 70%.
 
LizardGrad89 said:
Maybe. But that 47% career completion rate was an albatross. Today you have to be pushing 70%.
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yeah my point was that in 2010-201, they greatly frowned upon adapting an offense to a mobile QB.

you really think some of these guys are good passers in a traditional NFL offense?

Lamar Jackson is t sniffing a starting QB job in the NFL a decade ago, and you know it.
 
Dannygator1989 said:
yeah my point was that in 2010-201, they greatly frowned upon adapting an offense to a mobile QB.

you really think some of these guys are good passers in a traditional NFL offense?

Lamar Jackson is t sniffing a starting QB job in the NFL a decade ago, and you know it.
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I agree with your point on teams refusal to adapt. Disagree with Lamar Jackaon comparison. He is a better version of Mike Vick. Actually a more polished all around player than Randall Cunningham. Honestly I think Lamar Jsckson can be a Steve Young type.

You don't have to adapt around Lamar Jackson. You simply let him play.
 
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Dannygator1989 said:
yeah my point was that in 2010-201, they greatly frowned upon adapting an offense to a mobile QB.

you really think some of these guys are good passers in a traditional NFL offense?

Lamar Jackson is t sniffing a starting QB job in the NFL a decade ago, and you know it.
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Actually, Denver did adapt their offense to him. Watch his highlights from 2011, a lot of designed QB runs. It would have been nice if Denver had given him more of a chance, but the fact that Tebow was .500 as a QB and Manning won 12-13 games a year and a Super Bowl justifies the move.

I also think Tebow is a reverse Kaepernick. Too much distraction from the fans due to a mediocre QB. Doesn't matter if it's love or hate, too much non-football chatter is an issue.
 
rdgtr said:
What a terrible list, Peyton Manning at #2 on an all-time college QB list?
When compared head-to-head, Danny Wuerffel was the most successful
SEC quarterback of all-time! Four-straight SEC titles, Heisman winner, one NC and one NC-RU!
While playing in 11-game regular seasons, Wuerffel also threw for 114 TD's (2nd all-time in college football).

I would leave out players like #9 John Elway, #8 Doug Flutie and even Manning who have not won anything of significance in their college football careers.

This list should have included Bernie Kosar for leading Miami to their 1st national title against juggernaut 1983 Nebraska team,1993 Heisman winner Charlie Ward for leading FSU to their 1st national title against a Nebraska program that was about to start their run of titles and probably a few others.
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Manning won an SEC Championship in 1997 which is rather significant. When he finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing and total offense.
 
Michi_Gator said:
I very much remember jumping off my couch when he threw the 80 yard slant for a TD against Pitt in OT.

However, he had a less than average NFL career, and yes I believe partly because teams feared his media attention.

Nonetheless, greatest college QB, sub-par pro
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He wasn't in the right system to be more productive. I"m a huge fan of Tebow.
 
GatorNation79 said:
He wasn't in the right system to be more productive. I"m a huge fan of Tebow.
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We're all huge fans of Tebow. But he couldn't consistently throw the ball in those tight NFL windows. He just couldn't. He brought literally everything else to the table. This is why he was an all time great college player, because he had everything and could fit the ball in the college window.
 
Volium said:
Manning won an SEC Championship in 1997 which is rather significant. When he finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing and total offense.
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Manning was clearly second banana to Wuerffel, but to be fair he was a highly productive and successful second banana. 39 wins, an SEC title, 11,000 yards and 89 touchdowns is nothing to sneeze at.
 
Volium said:
Manning won an SEC Championship in 1997 which is rather significant. When he finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing and total offense.
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There is always this guy...

College...not pro...Tee Martin accomplished more than "a" SEC title.

Pro wise Manning is one of the greats.
 
Volium said:
Well, according to the Sporting News article, college level Manning was one of the greats also.
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Peyton went 0-4 vs UF. and had 89 TD's to 37 Ints (going on memory here).
Danny Wuerffel set the SEC passing TD record with 114 TD's going 4-0 vs TN.
In their only NFL meeting, Wuerffe's inept Saints also beat Peyton's loaded Colts.

Peyton had 1 more passing TD along with over twice as many Ints as Tebow (16) had.
Tebow also broke H.Walker's SEC career rushing TD's record.

Wuerffel and Tebow won NC's and Heisman's, Peyton won ZERO NC's.or Heisman's.
 
instaGATOR said:
Peyton went 0-4 vs UF. and had 89 TD's to 37 Ints (going on memory here).
Danny Wuerffel set the SEC passing TD record with 114 TD's going 4-0 vs TN.
In their only NFL meeting, Wuerffe's inept Saints also beat Peyton's loaded Colts.

Peyton had 1 more passing TD along with over twice as many Ints as Tebow (16) had.
Tebow also broke H.Walker's SEC career rushing TD's record.

Wuerffel and Tebow won NC's and Heisman's, Peyton won ZERO NC's.or Heisman's.
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Yes, the article mentions that Manning didn't win a NC or Heisman but they still ranked him second on the list.That is because he was one of the best QBs to play the game at any level.
 
Volium said:
Yes, the article mentions that Manning didn't win a NC or Heisman but they still ranked him second on the list.That is because he was one of the best QBs to play the game at any level.
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Yes, The Sporting News is just like you and other tennis-sea fans, you're all allowed to have your own opinions, even when the stat books show the reality. ;) -- :p -- :D
 
instaGATOR said:
Yes, The Sporting News is just like you and other tennis-sea fans, you're all allowed to have your own opinions, even when the stat books show the reality. ;) -- :p -- :D
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It's funny that you mentioned stats because when Peyton finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing yardage, career completions and completion percentage.
 
Volium said:
It's funny that you mentioned stats because when Peyton finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing yardage, career completions and completion percentage.
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Unfortunately for him and you and Tennessee no National Championship or Heisman.
 
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It's funny that you mentioned stats because when Peyton finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing yardage, career completions and completion percentage.
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A 'dink & dunk' chump that threw a chit-load of interceptions and couldn't lead the team to wins when it counted the most. Gators are well aware of what Peyton didn't and couldn't do.... ;)-:p

Wasn't he also the all time CiTrUs Bowl Champ??? :D:D:D
 
Volium said:
It's funny that you mentioned stats because when Peyton finished his college career, he was the SEC all time leader in passing yardage, career completions and completion percentage.
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Here's a stat for you.

Manning set and later tied the UT school record for throwing 5 touchdown passes in a game.

In 1995 Wuerffel threw six touchdown passes AGAINST TENNESSEE.
 
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Always something I found interesting about Manning. Always in the arguement of GOAT. However

Greatest Isidore Newman High School QB
Eli Manning

Greatest SEC QB of the 90's
Danny Wuerffel

Greatest UT QB of the 90's
Tee Martin

Greatest Denver Bronco QB
John Elway

Greatest Colts QB
Johnny Unitas

Greatest NFL QB of the 00's and 10's
Tom Brady

Greatest Manning
Olivia Manning, she birthed 4 super bowl rings
 
TennesseeGator said:
Always something I found interesting about Manning. Always in the arguement of GOAT. However

Greatest Isidore Newman High School QB
Eli Manning

Greatest SEC QB of the 90's
Danny Wuerffel

Greatest UT QB of the 90's
Tee Martin

Greatest Denver Bronco QB
John Elway

Greatest Colts QB
Johnny Unitas

Greatest NFL QB of the 00's and 10's
Tom Brady

Greatest Manning
Olivia Manning, she birthed 4 super bowl rings
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that's hilarious because I'm watching Peyton's Places right now and he just said that the most disappointing Manning was his mom because she did t get drafted at all.
 
Single season cam Newton, Joe burrow for a 2 year run, Tua 3 year run, tebow 4 year run?
 
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