In 1964, the Deep State voted for Goldwater, after a century of almost always voting for Democrats.
Why did these voters suddenly switch? Because Goldwater publicly opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
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In 1964, the Deep State voted for Goldwater, after a century of almost always voting for Democrats.
Why did these voters suddenly switch? Because Goldwater publicly opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
But he didn't.
"A member of the NAACP and active supporter of desegregation in Phoenix,[3][4] Goldwater voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and the 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but reluctantly opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964—despite believing in racial equality, he felt one of its provisions to be unconstitutional and a potential overreach of the federal government—a decision that considerably anguished him."
Barry Goldwater - Wikipedia
He supported the act of 1957, and supported equality for blacks. He was opposed to a particular provision in the 1964 act.
Why didn't you mention that? Because that would be telling the truth versus spreading propaganda.
This is why we beg you to stop getting your information from shit sources. Because they lie to you, and then you repeat the lie having no idea what you are talking about.
Also, the South had to choose between Barry Goldwater, and Lyndon B Johnson.
Johnson is the most openly racist president ever elected. He makes George Wallace blush. So maybe the South voted for Goldwater cause he wasn't a raving racist like your party's candidate was?
The real question you should be asking is, why was the rest of the nation ok with supporting a racist? The South was on the right side of history here.
Finally, what happened to your 'Southern Switch' spin? Before you claimed that the parties 'switched' with Nixon. Now you are claiming it happened in 1964.
@BillCutting4585 @jfegaly are we noticing how the goalposts keep moving with @Uniformed_ReRe in his attempts to project his party's racist past onto the republicans?
Speaking of dems and their racist roots, if the dems really aren't a party that supports racists anymore, why did you guys nominate Joe Biden?
You never did explain that one.
It was more about the movement perpetuated by Barry Goldwater than what you are implying. Conservatism and Libertarianism.
Hang on now...do a little research. Goldwater opposed the CRA of 64 but he voted for the CRA of 57 and the 24th amendment. He believed some of the provisions in the CRA of 64 were unconstitutional and federal government overreach.
FTR Goldwater had long been a desegregationist and an active member of the NAACP prior to 1964.
I can (ashamedly) admit that I had a great-great aunt that would ONLY vote for Democrats because she was racist AF and so were they.
I kid you not, this lady voted for Bill Clinton for these very reasons.
She died before Obama ran...but I would have paid good money to watch that one play out.
People like you are bad for America. The Republicans and/or democrats are not the #1 threat to America. If we got attacked tomorrow by any country, we would all come together and defend the red, white and blue. Families fight and its ok.
Some of you guys go extreme with the words.
But he didn't.
"A member of the NAACP and active supporter of desegregation in Phoenix,[3][4] Goldwater voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and the 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but reluctantly opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964—despite believing in racial equality, he felt one of its provisions to be unconstitutional and a potential overreach of the federal government—a decision that considerably anguished him."
Barry Goldwater - Wikipedia
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He supported the act of 1957, and supported equality for blacks. He was opposed to a particular provision in the 1964 act.
Why didn't you mention that? Because that would be telling the truth versus spreading propaganda.
This is why we beg you to stop getting your information from shit sources. Because they lie to you, and then you repeat the lie having no idea what you are talking about.
Also, the South had to choose between Barry Goldwater, and Lyndon B Johnson.
Johnson is the most openly racist president ever elected. He makes George Wallace blush. So maybe the South voted for Goldwater cause he wasn't a raving racist like your party's candidate was?
The real question you should be asking is, why was the rest of the nation ok with supporting a racist? The South was on the right side of history here.
Finally, what happened to your 'Southern Switch' spin? Before you claimed that the parties 'switched' with Nixon. Now you are claiming it happened in 1964.
@BillCutting4585 @jfegaly are we noticing how the goalposts keep moving with @Uniformed_ReRe in his attempts to project his party's racist past onto the republicans?
Speaking of dems and their racist roots, if the dems really aren't a party that supports racists anymore, why did you guys nominate Joe Biden?
You never did explain that one.
Sufi dance around it all you like. Southern racists started voting for Republicans after a century of voting for Democrats because Goldwater opposed the ‘64 Civil Rights Act.
How far was your bottom lip stuck out when you posted that?
Lie all you want about what happened in the 60s, but in 2020 your party ran a racist for president. We didn't vote for him.
You did. So choke on that.
You are correct. Todays "democrat" resembles socialism/communism. The party left the people...the people then left that party. Hell, you can go back 8-10 years and watch film of all the democrats speaking in support of building a wall on the southern border..including Schumer.
LMAO! Wait, so now the mythical 'Southern Strategy' was about Barry Goldwater, and not Richard Nixon?
See? You guys can't even keep your lies straight.
Correct. obama did in 2006. Schumer and Pelosi did in 2009.
obama was also against gay marriage until he ran for prez.
But none of them are as racist as Hiden. That's why we didn't vote for him, and @kalimgoodman and @Uniformed_ReRe did.
No, you are the number 1 threat to America because you are uninformed on most subjects, and misinformed on others. Be better
Nixon didn’t start the Southern Switch. He just exploited it for political reasons.
As an aside, Goldwater was a Christian but he was the first person of Jewish ancestry to run as a major candidate in the US.
The Southern racists switched to the Republican Party to vote for a man of Jewish origin who was an active member of the NAACP and who voted for the CRA of 1957 and the 24th amendment?
That's what you're going with?
Correct. It was a hoax invented by dems like you to try to project their racism onto their political opponents.
You voted for the racist in 2020, not me. Choke on that.
You two are being intellectually lazy and dishonest fwiw.
The South moved to the Republican Party due to the conservative movement which was clearly led and created by a man who was un-racist AF.
He may have been "un-racist AF," but he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
And so did the southerners who voted for him after a century of voting for democrats.
Tell me more from your viewpoint.
Also, are you saying the southern strategy is a lie?
I guess you guys being from Alabama makes you extra salty about this.
Still a great song. I guess you won't be able to hear it on Spotify anymore. That's a shame, because based on the historical revisionist BS they apparently still teach in Alabama schools, it's as relevant as ever.
Maybe this will help. See if you can fill in the blank with the correct word:
For nearly a century, southerners consistently voted for democrats. Beginning with the 1964 election, southerners ________ to voting for republicans.
For nearly a century, southerners consistently voted for democrats. Beginning with the 1964 election, southerners ________ to voting for republicans.
Great...these are facts also. Read it again. Does it make sense given your take on the southern racists?
The Southern racists switched to the Republican Party to vote for a man of Jewish origin who was an active member of the NAACP and who voted for the CRA of 1957 and the 24th amendment?
That's what you're going with?
The move to the Republican Party had less to do with race and more to do with Conservativism. We know this because racists would not want to support what Goldwater clearly supported.
The South supported conservatism and the Party of their grandparents abandoned conservatism.
Goldwater supported desegregation and Civil Rights. He took issue with CRA-64 because he believed one provision of it was unconstitutional. He made that abundantly clear.
Goldwater was a horrible choice for a voter who supported racism. He was a great choice for someone who supported Conservatism.
I hate to break it to you but I attended Florida schools until my 2nd year of college. So, take your cheap shots...but try again because you failed here.
Your premise is false and you're being entirely and intentionally ignorant on this subject.
Democrats were conservative. They stopped being so. Conservatives began voting for the more conservative party.
Up till today, the 'Southern Strategy' hoax was invented by Nixon.
Then @kalimgoodman slipped up and said it was used in the 1964 election. Instead of correcting him on the misuse of the southern strategy hoax, you let er rip on the fly that hell.....Barry Goldwater is the one that started the 'Southern Strategy', not Nixon!
LMAO!
That one exchange was so telling about you. You would rather run a thousand miles with a lie than walk 10 feet with the truth.
And again, you voted for the racist in 2020, not me. Eat it, KKK boy.
IIRC, he has you on ignore the same way SFB911 has @NavigatorII on ignore. It can't be said enough that ignore is for pVssies.
Unfortunately for your point, they didn't get all of their votes from South of the Mason-Dixon line.
From the end of the Reconstruction until the 1964 election, the Deep South had been consistently voting for democrats. After this, they've been voting for republicans.
In other words, they SWITCHED. This is no more controversial than saying that 2+2=4.
Would it help if they used a different word than "switch?" Maybe the Southern Transition?
The basic Machiavelli principle for governing is this:
Create 2 sides, then control both from the outside.
'The Prince' -- It is reportedly the favorite book of Bill & Hillary.....
Catholic vs Protestant
Black vs White
Rich vs Poor
Elite vs Doormats
Sovereign Citizens vs Criminal Illegal Aliens
Voter Frauds vs Patriotic Citizens
Phony Vax vs Cheap Drugs that work.
East vs West
North vs South
Etc......
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During the Civil War:
The Rothschild Bank of England financed the North.
The Rothschild Bank of France financed the South.
They didn't care who won, because in the end they owned both.
Say hello to Federal Reserve; it's not Federal (owned by private banks, most not even American), and there are NO RESERVES. They have the Treasury print the money for 5 cents a note, then they lend it into existence, and we pay them interest on our own money.
'Secerts of the Federal Reserve' by Eustace Mullins.
(I have an author signed copy in my own library, plus others of his books)
Mullins presents some bare facts about the Federal Reserve System with subjects on:
It IS NOT a U.S. government bank;
It IS NOT controlled by Congress;
It IS a privately owned Central Bank controlled by the elite financiers in their own interest.
The Federal Reserve elite controls:
excessive interest rates,
inflation,
the printing of paper money,
and they have taken control of the depression of prosperity in the United States.
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Without a Controlled Border, you don't have a country.
Without Control of Your Money, you shortly won't control anything.
Without Control of your Health Care System, you will have rich doc-tors, rampant death, and fake vaccines.
Sovereign Citizens that have ceased to take care of
their responsibilities as citizens, will not have their Freedom for long....
Ignorance and Apathy lead directly to tyrants and slavery:
Today's average citizen = I don't know, and I don't care.......
Without Control of Your Money, you shortly won't control anything.
Without Control of your Health Care System, you will have rich doc-tors, rampant death, and fake vaccines.
Sovereign Citizens that have ceased to take care of
their responsibilities as citizens, will not have their Freedom for long....
Ignorance and Apathy lead directly to tyrants and slavery:
Today's average citizen = I don't know, and I don't care.......
This perfectly explains why dems can lead you around by the nose.
The average intelligent person will look at the facts, then draw their own conclusions about what those facts mean.
You create the conclusion first, then backdate the 'facts' to fit your desired conclusion.
Your desired conclusion is that the republicans are the racists, and your dems aren't.
We didn't nominate Joe Biden, you did.
We didn't vote for a racist. You did.
This is actually a very good post. And it's completely correct, the dems thrive on pitting Americans against Americans. Because they know if Americans are truly United, then they are powerless.
They even create the illusion that we have two separate and distinct political parties in this country.
"Your desired conclusion is that the republicans are the racists, and your dems aren't."
That's not really my conclusion. Both parties are racist and both parties incite racial tension to motivate voters.
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