Guessing an FCS school that runs the ball a lot...sadgator is looking forward to wishing him the best of luck in his future endeavors...
What school will Treon transfer to in the spring...
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He will have to change positions or transfer to play at a school that runs the triple option. I honestly don't think he can QB at an FCS to be honest. At some point you still have to throw a semi accurate pass no matter what level. Harris struggles to hit his targets against air.
sadgator's never seen a quarterback who is more afraid of letting the ball go...as if he is uncertain as to whether the forward pass is against the rules.
It is astonishing that he made it to this level of football. And more astonishing that he was our only option....
It is astonishing that he made it to this level of football. And more astonishing that he was our only option....
I only remember a couple of times yesterday that he didn't hesitate on the throw, and one of them was on the 2nd pass after he caught the pass batted by the defense lineman.
He should move to DB, which I think he'd be open too. IIRC that was the plan for him at FSU before decommitting. He was gonna be given a shot at QB and would switch to DB if it didn't work out.
And to say he can't play QB at FCS is just ignorant. There are a lot of bad QB's in D-1 alone, I swear it's like you guys don't want games. UNC's QB was 4/21 or something ridiculous last night at one point against Clemson. Coker is pretty bad also and is on a playoff team. Jake Rudock Michigan's QB has 11 TD's/9 INT against power 5 opponents, that's less than 1 TD a game and he has probably the best QB coach in the country in Harbaugh coaching him. Baylor's QB Johnson had completed something like 8 passes in two games before he got injured yesterday. Jeremey Johnson had more INT'S than TD's until his recent starts. And I could keep going. And all those teams have more talent than we do on offense and are still that bad. He could go play in a spread offense somewhere and be decent.
And to say he can't play QB at FCS is just ignorant. There are a lot of bad QB's in D-1 alone, I swear it's like you guys don't want games. UNC's QB was 4/21 or something ridiculous last night at one point against Clemson. Coker is pretty bad also and is on a playoff team. Jake Rudock Michigan's QB has 11 TD's/9 INT against power 5 opponents, that's less than 1 TD a game and he has probably the best QB coach in the country in Harbaugh coaching him. Baylor's QB Johnson had completed something like 8 passes in two games before he got injured yesterday. Jeremey Johnson had more INT'S than TD's until his recent starts. And I could keep going. And all those teams have more talent than we do on offense and are still that bad. He could go play in a spread offense somewhere and be decent.
TH stays IF......
He just wants to get a top quality UF education and degree.
He wants to be a football coach one day and agrees to become a clipboard holder like Shotty was.
He's okay with riding the bench at either QB or DB for the rest of his UF career.... (not likely, and jmoho)
And good luck to him in his future, whatever he chooses to do.
He just wants to get a top quality UF education and degree.
He wants to be a football coach one day and agrees to become a clipboard holder like Shotty was.
He's okay with riding the bench at either QB or DB for the rest of his UF career.... (not likely, and jmoho)
And good luck to him in his future, whatever he chooses to do.
Agreed, but the problem for him is that he would face the same level of competition as a DB at UF, that he does as a QB.... (thus xfer time)
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How do you figure that (played good)???
2014 Treon Harris Fr - 9 GP, 6 GS, 4-2 as starter (.667)
P - 55 of 111 (49.5%) for 1,019 yds, 9 TD's, 4 Ints, PER 146.2
2015 Soph - 11 GP, 8 GS, 5-3 as starter (.625)
P - 111 of 214 (51.9%) for 1,530 yds, 9 TD's, 5 Ints, PER 121.1
Career
P - 166 of 325 (51.1%) for 2,549 yds, 18 TD's, 9 Ints, PER 133.6
Sorry, but that's just not good enough....
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2014 Treon Harris Fr
R- 75 for 338 yds, 4.5 ypc, 3 TD's -- Fum 5, LPF's 3
2015 Soph -
R - 85 for 183 yds, 2.2 ypc, 0 TD's -- Fum 4, LPF's 3
Career
R - 160 for 521 yds, 3.3 ypc, 3 TD's -- Fum 9, LPF's 6
Note: At Gatorzone.com, Kelvin Taylor is not listed with a single fumble in his Gator career.
(Is that correct? If so, freakin' WoW!)
What happened to the #FreeTreon crowd?
Where are all those players that "respond better" to Treon?
Where are all those players that "respond better" to Treon?
Never knew that was a crowd. Didn't those words come from Muschamp last year? That was his reasoning for making the switch from Driskel, that he felt the team responded better. But now we're going to credit it to the message board because it doesn't fit the narrative we have to now push here I guess.
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I thought it came from some current, former, players, and recruits. At least the #FreeTreon part.
I'm not sure if it qas Mischimp, msg board posters, or players but I seem to remember hearing it last season.
I just feel bad for the kid. I hope he either finds a good fit have it be transferring or switching positions.
What position would he switch to? DB, WR, or RB?
Yea the #FreeTreon thing came from players and recruits mainly. Then it spread like wildfire, players were sick of Driskel I guess. I do remember Muschamp saying the reason for the switch was that the players 'responded better' to him, whatever that means.
They did seem to respond better to him during the UT game last year. That and the Mizzou debacle are the only two that stand out.
During the Mizzou game they would have responded better if Mr Two Bits took the snaps as horrible as Driskel played that night.
During the Mizzou game they would have responded better if Mr Two Bits took the snaps as horrible as Driskel played that night.
He wasn't worth a damn as a freshman either. Driskel was just so bad that he appeared to be better due to low expectations at QB. He has some talent but not enough to be QB for the University of Florida. He could play at a number of smaller schools and start right away.
agree in part. disagree in part. But, I'm open to agreeing in total....Which smaller schools do you speak of?
Have you evaluated the rosters of every small school? No? Then you're not in a position to disprove his point anymore than he is in a position to prove it.
Bottom line is there are a lot of bad QB's in D-1 much less at the FCS level. Regardless of what you may think he had offers from multiple BCS schools as a QB and there are QB's out there with worse ratings. John Franklin was 4th string at FSU and mostly played receiver. He goes to juco and now he's the #1 juco QB in the country with multiple offers. Did he suddenly become great or did he go to a lower level and dominate thus looking better than he really is? Just about every high level D-1 player is capable of dropping down a level and excelling. On athletic ability alone they outclass most of their competition. Wouldn't mean he'd suddenly be some great QB, he would just be doing what a lot of athletes from HS to college get away with, outathleting their comp.
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Let's think hard about this.
Most on this thread speak about how he looked good only because Driskel looked bad. Driskel transfers to LA Tech and looks serviceable and above average at times.
Driskel is gone after this season.
Harris would be a hero at LA Tech
Most on this thread speak about how he looked good only because Driskel looked bad. Driskel transfers to LA Tech and looks serviceable and above average at times.
Driskel is gone after this season.
Harris would be a hero at LA Tech
Hey oozie. Yeah, I haven't seen a worse QB on my television screen this season but while I have watched a lot of football, you are correct, I have not seen every QB in the country.
You have a vision of Treon and what is happening on the field that is unique to 99% of Gator fans and you're not shy about it. Good for you and your steadfast determination to continue to take the road not traveled.
WTF does this even mean? I've said he should switch to DB and that's he's a bad QB. yea my view is certainly unique. Keep pushing that narrative though. The point is there are a lot of bad QB's around the country. There are 128 D-1 schools and even more FCS schools. And your view is that he can't play QB at a single one? And that makes sense to you despite the fact that he had numerous BCS offers from schools to play QB. Your hate is clouding your judgement.
I don't even have to look past UF to prove your assumption silly. He's already started over a QB (Driskel) who went to a lower level conference and had success. So logic would dictate if he was better than a guy who is having success at a lower level of competiton, he stands a good chance of having success against a lower level of competition also, especially FCS where he'd probably be the best athlete on the field for a large chunk of teams. But then again logic doesn't seem to a strong suit of some of you.
Treon should just change positions to CB or a fast WR. He should go to Coach Mac and ask him to switch positions. He is fast enough to be either.
Amazing how things just don't pan out with some of these players. From last year:
Florida secured a massive commitment from Treon Harris on National Signing Day. He might provide much-needed depth at QB for the Gators — and could see the field faster than Will Grier.
LINK: http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2014/2...ghts-florida-gators-national-signing-day-2014
Nothing 'personal' about it at all, but I never wanted him at UF, musclecramp did and took him. Maybe TH goes to SCa now...
Previously, you posted that Treon has regressed, maybe even considerably. I completely agree with you. If you still hold that opinion, is it reasonable to think that a Driskel/Treon QB battle held today would end with Driskel winning?
You think maybe you're using the old (4☆ recruit/'14 Tennessee/pre-regression/doesn't exist anymore) Treon in too many of your arguments?
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I would say that this was spot on - everything about it is true. Could anyone imagine if we DIDN'T have Treon this year?
There were two that I remember he didn't hesitate on...the first two on the three play TD drive and (shockingly) they were completed for big gains.
That could certainly work, and it might even be what's best for him, but I doubt that his ego would let him go in that direction...
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If it wasn't 'personal' then wh
No. My argument is based completely on the fact that there are less talented and more poorly performing QB's around the country than you guys would like to believe, which I outlined in my first response to Paco. There are QB's going games without throwing TD's for example. It's not an endorsement of Treon's abilities as much as it's a simple numbers game. Plenty of schools, plenty of mediocre/bad QB's, meaning he could start at a few. Especially at the FCS level. The talent differential between him and most of the QBs there is as big as the talent differential between Treon and a legit high level D-1 QB. Our QB at Southern 3 years back for example plays RB now, didn't have a single D-1 offer as a QB anywhere.
No. My argument is based completely on the fact that there are less talented and more poorly performing QB's around the country than you guys would like to believe, which I outlined in my first response to Paco. There are QB's going games without throwing TD's for example. It's not an endorsement of Treon's abilities as much as it's a simple numbers game. Plenty of schools, plenty of mediocre/bad QB's, meaning he could start at a few. Especially at the FCS level. The talent differential between him and most of the QBs there is as big as the talent differential between Treon and a legit high level D-1 QB. Our QB at Southern 3 years back for example plays RB now, didn't have a single D-1 offer as a QB anywhere.
It would be in his best interest to swallow his ego , I hope that someone is in his ear talking to him about his future !!!!
You have a bad habit of telling people you're giving "facts" and then proceeding to give your opinion. This post of yours is a good example.
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