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Well, well, well. Amazon mail in voting

Dims on this board say count every illegal vote even if carrier pigeons deliver them. Seems Amazon is the latest one being exposed.

It be comical if it wasn’t so sad. Let’s face it. Being able to vote without proving your identity it’s stupid. It’s always been stupid. And those that abuse the system by cheating throw out there the racism card whenever you say you should have to show an ID to vote. For God sake‘s of course you should have to show an ID to vote. It’s the only way to have a fair and legal election. If you can’t be bothered to get a government ID card, either a drivers license or something else issued by your state proving you are a citizen then you don’t deserve to vote. It should be part of your duty as a citizen. As a citizen you should want fair elections and that means identification to prove you have the right to vote and that every vote is legal.
Clearly the only reason to argue against this is if you have something to gain from people casting Votes without proving they have the right to do so. Another words you have something to gain from illegal votes.

Please, somebody, anybody on either side of this debate in this forum please give me a valid reason why there should not be proper voter identification before a ballot is considered legal.
 
It be comical if it wasn’t so sad. Let’s face it. Being able to vote without proving your identity it’s stupid. It’s always been stupid. And those that abuse the system by cheating throw out there the racism card whenever you say you should have to show an ID to vote. For God sake‘s of course you should have to show an ID to vote. It’s the only way to have a fair and legal election. If you can’t be bothered to get a government ID card, either a drivers license or something else issued by your state proving you are a citizen then you don’t deserve to vote. It should be part of your duty as a citizen. As a citizen you should want fair elections and that means identification to prove you have the right to vote and that every vote is legal.
Clearly the only reason to argue against this is if you have something to gain from people casting Votes without proving they have the right to do so. Another words you have something to gain from illegal votes.

Please, somebody, anybody on either side of this debate in this forum please give me a valid reason why there should not be proper voter identification before a ballot is considered legal.

Incoming lizard in 3....2.....1. Count every illegal vote
 
It be comical if it wasn’t so sad. Let’s face it. Being able to vote without proving your identity it’s stupid. It’s always been stupid. And those that abuse the system by cheating throw out there the racism card whenever you say you should have to show an ID to vote. For God sake‘s of course you should have to show an ID to vote. It’s the only way to have a fair and legal election. If you can’t be bothered to get a government ID card, either a drivers license or something else issued by your state proving you are a citizen then you don’t deserve to vote. It should be part of your duty as a citizen. As a citizen you should want fair elections and that means identification to prove you have the right to vote and that every vote is legal.
Clearly the only reason to argue against this is if you have something to gain from people casting Votes without proving they have the right to do so. Another words you have something to gain from illegal votes.

Please, somebody, anybody on either side of this debate in this forum please give me a valid reason why there should not be proper voter identification before a ballot is considered legal.
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
 
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
My goodness you are an ill informed idiot. I’m not convinced you know the difference between mail in and absentee.

1) Desantis wasn’t elected by mail on votes. They don’t allow mail in voting in FL.
2) I don’t recall the stories of long lines at polling places in Fulton Co, but I do recall someone posting a video of herself counting mail in ballots with no return addresses and later pulling suitcases out from under a table that had 132k votes only for Joe. Strange coincidence.
3) Joe Biden is much better at pussy grabbing - he didn’t just locker room talk, he walked the walk. Then when she refused he ruined her career...and later allowed the press to disappear her. Please make sure your daughters know you support that. Make sure they hear Terah Reid tell her side of the story (for which she gained nothing by telling).
4) 5 states are vote by mail, but you know what they do that GA, PA, etc didn’t? Verify signatures. You know that one thing that’s the only possible way to check the validity of a ballot that has no chain of custody? Yep, their process actually looks at that. Crazy, I know.
5) All 5 of those states aren’t contested, they are very blue. Makes no sense to cheat when you don’t need to, does it?

I’m trying real hard not to post but when I see such ignorance delivered with this type of fervor I can’t help myself. Elevate the discourse.
 
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
There's dumb.
Then there's spectacularly dumb.

Guess which one you are?
 
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
How did Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome make you feel?
 
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
Oh he/she is back for more comedy relief. You think after the Mel Gibson fiasco that you’d want to take a break but low and behold, the retard is strong in you.
 
It be comical if it wasn’t so sad. Let’s face it. Being able to vote without proving your identity it’s stupid. It’s always been stupid. And those that abuse the system by cheating throw out there the racism card whenever you say you should have to show an ID to vote. For God sake‘s of course you should have to show an ID to vote. It’s the only way to have a fair and legal election. If you can’t be bothered to get a government ID card, either a drivers license or something else issued by your state proving you are a citizen then you don’t deserve to vote. It should be part of your duty as a citizen. As a citizen you should want fair elections and that means identification to prove you have the right to vote and that every vote is legal.
Clearly the only reason to argue against this is if you have something to gain from people casting Votes without proving they have the right to do so. Another words you have something to gain from illegal votes.

Please, somebody, anybody on either side of this debate in this forum please give me a valid reason why there should not be proper voter identification before a ballot is considered legal.

I believe a universal voter ID card is a great idea, as long as they are free and set up in such a way that even the poor and yes, even the homeless, are capable of getting one without hurdles. Hurdles such as proof of residency, which is pretty tough for the homeless.

In return, I want to see a much greater effort made to provide access to voting for those for whom voting is a hurdle. It's easy for you or me, with our homes, and our cars, to drive to the DMV, show 3 forms of proof of residency, get an ID, then later drive to the precinct and vote. But for those without transportation, or a legal address, it is extremely difficult to accomplish those things.

So let's make one concerted, bipartisan effort, to make it practically impossible for illegal votes to be cast while at the same time making it extremely easy for legal votes to be cast. Anybody else on board?
 
I believe a universal voter ID card is a great idea, as long as they are free and set up in such a way that even the poor and yes, even the homeless, are capable of getting one without hurdles. Hurdles such as proof of residency, which is pretty tough for the homeless.

In return, I want to see a much greater effort made to provide access to voting for those for whom voting is a hurdle. It's easy for you or me, with our homes, and our cars, to drive to the DMV, show 3 forms of proof of residency, get an ID, then later drive to the precinct and vote. But for those without transportation, or a legal address, it is extremely difficult to accomplish those things.

So let's make one concerted, bipartisan effort, to make it practically impossible for illegal votes to be cast while at the same time making it extremely easy for legal votes to be cast. Anybody else on board?

We still need to address how to prevent illegals and non-residents from voting. If we can work that out, I am game.
 
I’m not sure I understand why preventing illegal voting is only a conversation worth having if we can solve that pesky hang up of proving residency for homeless people? That doesn’t sound like someone who is interested in fixing any voting issues we currently have.
 
We still need to address how to prevent illegals and non-residents from voting. If we can work that out, I am game.
No not until we can put every homeless person in America in government housing whether they want it or not so they can have an address to use to take part in a process they may or may not want to take part in. Until then leave everything how it is.
 
No not until we can put every homeless person in America in government housing whether they want it or not so they can have an address to use to take part in a process they may or may not want to take part in. Until then leave everything how it is.

Let's try to better define "homeless". People commonly consider homeless to equate to "street people". This is untrue. The vast majority of homeless people stay with friends and relatives, often on a rotating basis, sleeping on couches or the floor, or a spare bedroom if they are lucky. For many it's a temporary situation until they can pull their life back together, but not for all. However, the fact that they do not have a utility bill with their name on it does not mean they lose their right to vote.

I am far more concerned with everybody with the right to vote being able to vote than I am with having voter ID's. But the best case scenario is to have both.
 
Let's try to better define "homeless". People commonly consider homeless to equate to "street people". This is untrue. The vast majority of homeless people stay with friends and relatives, often on a rotating basis, sleeping on couches or the floor, or a spare bedroom if they are lucky. For many it's a temporary situation until they can pull their life back together, but not for all. However, the fact that they do not have a utility bill with their name on it does not mean they lose their right to vote.

I am far more concerned with everybody with the right to vote being able to vote than I am with having voter ID's. But the best case scenario is to have both.

nah. You don’t have that type of character, nice try. You support illegal voting as a means to an end. No character
 
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nah. You don’t have that type if character, nice try. You support illegal voting as a means to an end. No character

I think the problem here is you only have about a 12 word vocabulary, so you can't help but repeat yourself, over, and over, and over.
 
Let's try to better define "homeless". People commonly consider homeless to equate to "street people". This is untrue. The vast majority of homeless people stay with friends and relatives, often on a rotating basis, sleeping on couches or the floor, or a spare bedroom if they are lucky. For many it's a temporary situation until they can pull their life back together, but not for all. However, the fact that they do not have a utility bill with their name on it does not mean they lose their right to vote.

I am far more concerned with everybody with the right to vote being able to vote than I am with having voter ID's. But the best case scenario is to have both.
Bullshit.
Things that require ID:
Purchasing Tobacco and alcohol
Purchasing a firearm
Applying for public assistance and housing
Adopting a pet
Admission into the Democrat National Convention

Yet somehow the most important thing a citizen can do in this country, nah, faggetabouit!!! 🤣

Here's a novel idea. Show your sorry asses up to the polls and prove you are who you say you are.
 
Let's try to better define "homeless". People commonly consider homeless to equate to "street people". This is untrue. The vast majority of homeless people stay with friends and relatives, often on a rotating basis, sleeping on couches or the floor, or a spare bedroom if they are lucky. For many it's a temporary situation until they can pull their life back together, but not for all. However, the fact that they do not have a utility bill with their name on it does not mean they lose their right to vote.

I am far more concerned with everybody with the right to vote being able to vote than I am with having voter ID's. But the best case scenario is to have both.
None of those friends and family will let them use their address to take part in voting? I mean where are these “homeless” people getting their mail? And no one says they lose the right to vote. Obtaining a valid ID isn’t hard, even for “homeless” people. But if “homeless” voting is the hill you’re going to die on and won’t bother hearing anything out have at it. You could have just said you don’t want to make any voting changes instead of throwing out something impossible to fix.
 
It's unfair to ask someone like me to obtain a photo ID to present at a voting site. The actual goal is voter fraud.

We watched voter irregularities in 5 or more states. Philadelphia County, Wayne County, Milwaukee County, and Fulson County, et al counted votes mysteriously past Election Day till they had votes needed to give Biden an all time record 80 million votes.

Biden is the stiff who can barely draw flies to a Phoenix rally. Ms. Lockupabruthuh draws 4 dozen Hispanics in Miami most wearing MAGA hats.

The U. S. average IQ is 98. Biden has begun by keeping his promise of economic stagnation. Americans are not stupid enough to deliver Biden a legal 80 million legal votes.
 
Let's try to better define "homeless". People commonly consider homeless to equate to "street people". This is untrue. The vast majority of homeless people stay with friends and relatives, often on a rotating basis, sleeping on couches or the floor, or a spare bedroom if they are lucky. For many it's a temporary situation until they can pull their life back together, but not for all. However, the fact that they do not have a utility bill with their name on it does not mean they lose their right to vote.

I am far more concerned with everybody with the right to vote being able to vote than I am with having voter ID's. But the best case scenario is to have both.

My wife's name isn't on our utility bills yet somehow she is registered to vote.
 
Hey El Gordo, did you even read the article from the right wing rag Townhall? It doesn't mention voter ID,
"According to a representative of the company who spoke to CNN, Amazon believes in-person voting is "the best approach to a valid, fair and successful election" because in-person voting allows "associates to verify and cast their vote in close proximity to their workplace." What a concept."

It sounds to me like they want them voting in close proximity to workplace, maybe for intimidation purposes.

Fat Boy, did you know there are five states that hold ALL ELECTIONS by mail? (Look them up dumbass and research the allegations of voter fraud there....not much). Are you smarter than all of them? How many states have allowed mail in ballots for years (including Florida). Maybe we should toss out Little Marco, Rick the Prick, DeSantis de Dummy....they were elected using mail in ballots.
All this talk about voter fraud and you morons can only provide proof of a a couple of dead REPUBLICANS voting in Georgia?
As a citizen concerned with fair elections why aren't you just as vocal about voter suppression? And if you think suppression of minority voters is a myth, explain why Georgia turned blue. Despite Brian Kemp and his voter suppression when he was Sec of State, the combination of Stacey Abrams working her ass off plus Donald Trump just being an asshole, Georgians turned out in record numbers and fired their rich white Senators and racist President.
Voter suppression keeps your racist buddies running the plantation.
How are you going to explain to your daughters that you were on the wrong side of history, you supported a racist that said the way to get women is to "grab them by the pussy". That should be an interesting talk between daddy/daughters. But I doubt you have the balls to tell them.
I'm going to vent here a bit:

The fact that this guy reports ANYONE for name calling and insulting folks continues to simply flummox me. The irony and hypocrisy are next level.

When reporting people for breaking the rules, he flat out accuses me of having different rules for different posters. My role, as I see it, is to let you guys do your thing and only step in when absolutely necessary. I'd prefer to keep it this way and seriously doubt I'm alone on that.

@Mt.DoraGator also mentioned that he "will be glad when his subscription expires". Well, I'd like to invite him to share that date, so I can mark it on my calendar and ...

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I'm going to vent here a bit:

The fact that this guy reports ANYONE for name calling and insulting folks continues to simply flummox me. The irony and hypocrisy are next level.

When reporting people for breaking the rules, he flat out accuses me of having different rules for different posters. My role, as I see it, is to let you guys do your thing and only step in when absolutely necessary. I'd prefer to keep it this way and seriously doubt I'm alone on that.

@Mt.DoraGator also mentioned that he "will be glad when his subscription expires". Well, I'd like to invite him to share that date, so I can mark it on my calendar and ...

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Wait a minute... he wants you to censor anyone that calls him out, makes fun of him or god forbid call him a name. 😂😂😂😂

You lefties kill me, you want censorship, go to Twitter clown

@Mt.DoraGator you are pathetic. I pray to god you’re a child because you seriously need to grow up. They’re words bud, grow a pair.
 
Thanks for being fair and balanced FG. Seriously though, his threating to cancel a subscription to a site that has a market capitalization of $500 USD is about as funny as BSC threatening to not renew his subscription. (which he has not in years). Next thing we'll hear is him demanding a congressional hearing about silencing all seditious banter on an off topic sports forum. Good lord at the butthurt and demands for the Ministry of Truth. 🤣
 
Thanks for being fair and balanced FG. Seriously though, his threating to cancel a subscription to a site that has a market capitalization of $500 USD is about as funny as BSC threatening to not renew his subscription. (which he has not in years). Next thing we'll hear is him demanding a congressional hearing about silencing all seditious banter on an off topic sports forum. Good lord at the butthurt and demands for the Ministry of Truth. 🤣
I think we’ve found our board Reality Czar 😂😂😂
 
Seriously. It’s a message board. If being called names by people you don’t know, upsets you, maybe stick to solitaire or something. Also, life has gotta be uber tough for you.
This Global warming climate change thing must be tough on snowflakes.........the melting of global tears is going to raise our ocean levels. Maybe THAT's where we need to put our focus on. 😂
 
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