My favorite part will be when Carney claims this was yet another piece of information to which the President was not privy.
If you like your insurance, too bad
If you like your insurance, too bad
Well how about that? The White House knew it was coming!
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If you ask the resident leftist statist around here they'll probably admit that they knew this was coming.
1.) It is either acceptable because more scumbags can get free insurance paid for by us working bees.
2.) It is acceptable because more government control of the individual i always better.
3,) They're truly useful idiots and didn't see this coming
4.) Some combination of the above and the desire to see the system implode so that there is a single player. (The beauty of single payer that people don't realize you'll probably still pay for gap insurance so you don't have to wait 3 months to get your cancer treated in the state run treatment mills.)
This was a bad deal for any American who works for a living for dirtbag america it's the greatest thing ever.
1.) It is either acceptable because more scumbags can get free insurance paid for by us working bees.
2.) It is acceptable because more government control of the individual i always better.
3,) They're truly useful idiots and didn't see this coming
4.) Some combination of the above and the desire to see the system implode so that there is a single player. (The beauty of single payer that people don't realize you'll probably still pay for gap insurance so you don't have to wait 3 months to get your cancer treated in the state run treatment mills.)
This was a bad deal for any American who works for a living for dirtbag america it's the greatest thing ever.
Actually, "dirtbag" America is getting insurance in name only. The policies they will have pay such a low reimbursement rate to doctors that doctors aren't accepting it. So guess where those people will go for their healthcare.
Emergency rooms.
What has occurred with the ACA is less a grand conspiracy and more the product of complete and total incompetence.
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Emergency rooms.
What has occurred with the ACA is less a grand conspiracy and more the product of complete and total incompetence.
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This post was edited on 10/29 8:48 AM by Ghost of Spaceheater
Most doctors aren't accepting the exchange plans. The linked article is from New York, but I know it is true of places like Alabama, Florida & Georgia too where I have friends that are doctors.
So while you might be able to get insurance through the ACA, it won't do you a damned bit of good.
So while you might be able to get insurance through the ACA, it won't do you a damned bit of good.
This is what I have been saying since the begining: Who is going to see all these newly "insured" patients?
I have also said that I believe they will make it a law that if you accept and see Medicare patients...you will be forced to accept these new exchange plan patients in order to continue to be a Medicare provider.
They know these new plans will suck...so they will have to make Drs see the people on them. "Hey, you want to keep your medical license...then you have to do _______"
That may eventually happen, but it's not going to happen soon. BCBS is trying to force docs in Florida to take the plans by packing all their plans together. To my knowledge, docs are responding with "shove it, we won't take any of your plans then." So that means if you have any sort of BCBS policy in Florida you won't have access to a lot of docs.
The whole situation is quickly spiraling out of control.
My family is filled with Docs. I defended Docs and healthcare facilities for decades in my practice. I know more physicians than I can count. NONE of them think the plan will work. Most believe it's a step toward a single payer system which will decrease the level of care dramatically and decrease access for everyone but the wealthy. The rich will pay for their care on their own and skip the government run crap.
Then the government will turn to physician assistants and nurse practitioners. They're the government; they can define the level of *care* however they freakin' want....probaly with malpractice protection since those that play ball with the libs, win.Originally posted by Hoppo:
They WILL find a way to have somebody provide care under this system.....of course whether it's in the best interests of most of the nation is of no concern
It's no wonder why those who came up with this fiasco don't have to abide(use) it.Originally posted by IrishPokerDog:
Then the government will turn to physician assistants and nurse practitioners. They're the government; they can define the level of *care* however they freakin' want....probaly with malpractice protection since those that play ball with the libs, win.Originally posted by Hoppo:
They WILL find a way to have somebody provide care under this system.....of course whether it's in the best interests of most of the nation is of no concern
But look at it this way...we should all be thrilled for the 62 year old single man I heard on the radio the other day, who now has a plan covering his maternity care.
In addition to this, he'll soon be among the richest men in America after he becomes the first male to earn those benefits, after giving birth on the same day he becomes eligible for Social Security. He'll write a book and retain the movie rights.
F#%^*#% CLUSTER.
In addition to this, he'll soon be among the richest men in America after he becomes the first male to earn those benefits, after giving birth on the same day he becomes eligible for Social Security. He'll write a book and retain the movie rights.
F#%^*#% CLUSTER.
Doctors in private practice can't accept the plans because they can't pay their overhead.
While Democrats are in office they won't give malpractice protection to any healthcare providers because it will piss of the plaintiff's bar.
It's just a total clusterphuck.
The hysterical thing about heading towards a European model single payer is that all across Europe benefits in the single payer system are being rolled back or eliminated completely.
Why?
The Yurps have figured out that the costs are unsustainable.
While Democrats are in office they won't give malpractice protection to any healthcare providers because it will piss of the plaintiff's bar.
It's just a total clusterphuck.
The hysterical thing about heading towards a European model single payer is that all across Europe benefits in the single payer system are being rolled back or eliminated completely.
Why?
The Yurps have figured out that the costs are unsustainable.
Doc, how will you know which plans are through the exchange and which ones aren't? It was my understanding that the exchange just packages those plans that were already available as an individual policy through BCBS directly. How is your reimbursement any different than what you would normally get as part of a PPO?
I believe he stated they'd just stop taking all policies of companies that do that. This is what happened in europe with free healthcare btw, yeah you got it and it's paid for by ludicrous taxes, but if you want to be seen for your freaking cancer before 3 months go by then you purchase rather pricey supplemental insurance which gives you access to private practice specialist. Net result? That's right, you're still paying for health insurance if you can afford it and now your taxes are freaking ludicrous too.
Sounds legit.
Sounds legit.
I'd have to say that the "Yurps" also didn't start out offering universal care for another ultimate goal, either. After WWII, health care delivery was almost non-existent and it must have seemed at the time that a line 'em up and move 'em through was the only way to get basic care to people. It does remain a prime example of socialized medicine run amok, however.
This ACA is not at all for the common weal, never was intended to be. It is used for another purpose, as a major building block to a single payer system that will be part of a full collective government, where socialism will be the order of the day.
This ACA is not at all for the common weal, never was intended to be. It is used for another purpose, as a major building block to a single payer system that will be part of a full collective government, where socialism will be the order of the day.
The flaw with that thinking is America is fundamentally not like European nations because of the Second Amendment. What could be done there can't be done here.
If you believe in the false flag claims concerning the school shooting in Connecticut and movie theater shooting in Colorado (and I'm not saying that I do) then you'd see it fits perfectly in with the plan of disarming the general population. Because to force the US into the sort of socialist state you're describing the populace has to be disarmed.
Before what you are describing happens in this country, the nation is going to have to descend into chaos.
Doesn't friggin' matter anyway, We are 107% of government debt to Gross Domestic Product, so we are already nearing the tipping point into collapse.
Buy nonperishable food rations, gold, silver and bullets and screw paying for health insurance.....work that schidt out with your Doc under the table when cash is garbage, and your Doc can't hock the BMW.
Buy nonperishable food rations, gold, silver and bullets and screw paying for health insurance.....work that schidt out with your Doc under the table when cash is garbage, and your Doc can't hock the BMW.
obamacare will be all fun and games until people start having to bury their babies that died as a result of bureaucratic malfeasance. sending gramps off b/c of the death panel is something people will do w/ few qualms. burying their babies that until obamacare were suffering treatable illnesses will be a whole 'nother matter.
