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We are just a low I.Q team..

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...from top to bottom and everywhere in-between. Maybe on Halloween night a witch could fly over the Swamp and dump some "smart" potion all over it! I'm tired of sucking! I'm tired of the fan investment, and the huge booster investments that go nowhere! I'm not even spewing out post game anger, I JUST DONT GET IT!!!! Why can't one of the best programs in college football figure this thing out?
 
We're 12th in recruiting budget behind Georgia, Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU and FSU.

We're also 12th in football budget behind Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Arkansas and FSU.

We need to just settle in and enjoy the wins we get and not expect to contend at the top.
 
We're 12th in recruiting budget behind Georgia, Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU and FSU.

We're also 12th in football budget behind Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Arkansas and FSU.

We need to just settle in and enjoy the wins we get and not expect to contend at the top.

Do you know what the difference is actually spent on? Cant a lot of it be explained by us being located in Florida? Is it staff people? I know Saban pulls that landing in a helicopter mess when he comes to Florida sometimes to see a top recruit.

I do agree any difference that isn't solely because most of our targets are in FL needs to be dealt with. I think Mullen doesn't have a strong recruiting staff around him either.
 
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Do you know what the difference is actually spent on? Cant a lot of it be explained by us being located in Florida? Is it staff people? I know Saban pulls that landing in a helicopter mess when he comes to Florida sometimes to see a top recruit.

I do agree any difference that isn't solely because most of our targets are in FL needs to be dealt with. I think Mullen doesn't have a strong recruiting staff around him either.
That is a good question. It just seems to me like the ones who spend the big bucks get the big results and we're doing neither.
 
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Diving out of the end zone to the 1 yard line after an interception is not very smart….to be polite.
Well, he caught it on the one and ran it into the end zone, so he was afraid of a judgement call that he ran in under his own power and end up giving them a safety. I don't know why he reversed field and ran right back into the WR, though, he could have run out towards the middle of the field, there was surely room that way.
 
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Well, he caught it on the one and ran it into the end zone, so he was afraid of a judgement call that he ran in under his own power and end up giving them a safety. I don't know why he reversed field and ran right back into the WR, though, he could have run out towards the middle of the field, there was surely room that way.
I learned in Pee Wee at age 8 that your momentum taking you into the end zone is not going to be a safety. I guess our coach then was very advanced in teaching us that. It was taught again by my junior high coach, freshman coach, high school coach, and reiterated by my JUCO coach. I currently coach 8th grade football. I teach this to them.

The only defense I have for the UF coaches to not reiterate this to college players is they assume these players were taught at all levels coming up. Other than that there is no excuse to think it's a safety.
 
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I learned in Pee Wee at age 8 that your momentum taking you into the end zone is not going to be a safety. I guess our coach then was very advanced in teaching us that. It was taught again by my junior high coach, freshman coach, high school coach, and reiterated by my JUCO coach. I currently coach 8th grade football. I teach this to them.

The only defense I have for the UF coaches to not reiterate this to college players is they assume these players were taught at all levels coming up. Other than that there is no excuse to think it's a safety.
It's still a judgement call by the refs. How often does UF get the favorable call on a judgement call? 10% of the time? No, I get why he did that. And frankly, it's not that uncommon, you see players do it all the time. Don't act like everybody else does it your way, because that isn't how it works.
 
Just saw we have the worst record in our last 11 games out of everyone in the SEC except for Vandy. I think we are tied wIth SC at 4-7.
 
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I learned in Pee Wee at age 8 that your momentum taking you into the end zone is not going to be a safety. I guess our coach then was very advanced in teaching us that. It was taught again by my junior high coach, freshman coach, high school coach, and reiterated by my JUCO coach. I currently coach 8th grade football. I teach this to them.

The only defense I have for the UF coaches to not reiterate this to college players is they assume these players were taught at all levels coming up. Other than that there is no excuse to think it's a safety.
TennesseeGator must not watched any football lately??? It would have be the refs JUDGEMENT call!! By the way SEC refs have been calling it…he was wise to bring it out. I’m sure your pee wee coach also taught you…don’t leave it to the refs..
 
Low IQ, soft, lack of discipline - not sure exactly how you describe it, but our team is underperforming and has been since the LSU game last year. They played Bama tough twice, but last year's SEC title game showed the defensive inefficiencies and this year showed they just couldn't do the little things needed to pull off the win. #9, #9 & #12 in recruiting the past 3 years should not equate to a 4-4 record, 4-7 over our last 11 games. We obviously don't have Alabama, Georgia or Ohio State level talent. But there is certainly enough talent there to have beaten Kentucky & LSU. The HBC needs to re-evaluate his entire program and make some major adjustments in who and how they recruit, who his assistant coaches are going to be, what their philosophy and approach is going to be, how they practice and prepare for games, how they train - the whole thing. Because we are trending in the wrong direction.
 
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TennesseeGator must not watched any football lately??? It would have be the refs JUDGEMENT call!! By the way SEC. If you feel froggy, we can have battle of the wits on football and rules. refs have been calling it…he was wise to bring it out. I’m sure your pee wee coach also taught you…don’t leave it to the refs..
11.5 times out of 10 the ref is going to judge in favor or a full speed running DB catching a pass on the fly. I'm cool of you feel froggy and want to have battle of the wits on football.
 
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Well, he caught it on the one and ran it into the end zone, so he was afraid of a judgement call that he ran in under his own power and end up giving them a safety. I don't know why he reversed field and ran right back into the WR, though, he could have run out towards the middle of the field, there was surely room that way.
Hope you are kidding or some fans have a very low football IQ too.
 
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Do you know what the difference is actually spent on? Cant a lot of it be explained by us being located in Florida? Is it staff people? I know Saban pulls that landing in a helicopter mess when he comes to Florida sometimes to see a top recruit.

I do agree any difference that isn't solely because most of our targets are in FL needs to be dealt with. I think Mullen doesn't have a strong recruiting staff around him either.

I think recruiting is UFs biggest issue. Paco pointed it out that because of recruiting, the margin of error is so thin. I'm not sure if it Dan's personality, his pitch, or his coaches on staff. If I were UF, I would bring in 2 or 3 ace recruiters to get the bump into the top 7 in recruiting. As Kirby said, he can't outcoach Dan, he can just out recruit Dan.
 
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I think recruiting is UFs biggest issue. Paco pointed it out that because of recruiting, the margin of error is so thin. I'm not sure if it Dan's personality, his pitch, or his coaches on staff. If I were UF, I would bring in 2 or 3 ace recruiters to get the bump into the top 7 in recruiting. As Kirby said, he can't outcoach Dan, he can just out recruit Dan.
Pretty fair comment
 
It would have been a touchback, not a safety if he was tackled in the end zone.

It was a poor decision.

Not BLAMING him for the loss. I am saying it was a bad decision.
 
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It would have been a touchback, not a safety if he was tackled in the end zone.

It was a poor decision.

Not BLAMING him for the loss. I am saying it was a bad decision.
Not a great decision but Torrance was actually one of the few kids that actually showed up to play so I’m not going to be too hard on him. He was responsible for all 3 of our TOs.
 
Not a great decision but Torrance was actually one of the few kids that actually showed up to play so I’m not going to be too hard on him. He was responsible for all 3 of our TOs.

Sure. Just analyzing that play.

Our secondary should understand the rules.
 
I think recruiting is UFs biggest issue. Paco pointed it out that because of recruiting, the margin of error is so thin. I'm not sure if it Dan's personality, his pitch, or his coaches on staff. If I were UF, I would bring in 2 or 3 ace recruiters to get the bump into the top 7 in recruiting. As Kirby said, he can't outcoach Dan, he can just out recruit Dan.
Agree - There are 34 5-star rated players in the 2022 class and we're not getting any of them and don't even appear to have been under serious consideration by any of the guys. FSU has 2 of them committed, Kentucky is even getting 1. The rest are pretty much being divided up among the usual suspects - Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas A&M, LSU, etc. - but not our MIGHTY GATORS!
 
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I think recruiting is UFs biggest issue. Paco pointed it out that because of recruiting, the margin of error is so thin. I'm not sure if it Dan's personality, his pitch, or his coaches on staff. If I were UF, I would bring in 2 or 3 ace recruiters to get the bump into the top 7 in recruiting. As Kirby said, he can't outcoach Dan, he can just out recruit Dan.

I think Smart meant recruiting is the most important thing. He just said you win mostly by having the better players and downplayed coaching some. Basically stressing you better be near the top in recruiting if you want to win big.
 
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Agree - There are 34 5-star rated players in the 2022 class and we're not getting any of them and don't even appear to have been under serious consideration by any of the guys. FSU has 2 of them committed, Kentucky is even getting 1. The rest are pretty much being divided up among the usual suspects - Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas A&M, LSU, etc. - but not our MIGHTY GATORS!

That is one thing Mullen needs to improve on for sure. Those DT transfers we got this time aren't top SEC talent like the ones we got from the portal before so you can't get dependent on the portal to always save you from poor recruiting.
 
Saying we need more 5 star recruits is a lazy analysis.
It's not necessarily that we just need more 5-stars, but the fact we're not getting any does illustrate our problems recruiting. I just read in the Athletic (absolutely brutal tear down of the Gator program right now) that he's signed two high school 5-stars in four classes. Smart has signed 20.
 
It's not necessarily that we just need more 5-stars, but the fact we're not getting any does illustrate our problems recruiting. I just read in the Athletic (absolutely brutal tear down of the Gator program right now) that he's signed two high school 5-stars in four classes. Smart has signed 20.

I wonder how many of the higher 4 stars we are getting the last few years compared to the top teams in that. I remember seeing one time that is where most of the top teams get their dominant players.
 
I read on another thread that in the 4 years Mullen has been at Florida, he's signed 2 Five star players, while Georgia has signed 20. That's a huge discrepancy and people can say recruiting rankings don't matter and star ratings don't matter, but when your rivals are signing that many more elite type players than you are, something ain't right, IMO.
 
I read on another thread that in the 4 years Mullen has been at Florida, he's signed 2 Five star players, while Georgia has signed 20. That's a huge discrepancy and people can say recruiting rankings don't matter and star ratings don't matter, but when your rivals are signing that many more elite type players than you are, something ain't right, IMO.

I think Georgia is getting more of the higher 4 stars than us also which is the big killer. I Guess Dexter and Marshall are the 2 five stars.
 
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Mullen was asked if a different approach is needed in recruiting.

“We’re in the season right now, we’ll do recruiting after the season, when it gets to be recruiting time, we can talk about recruiting,” Mullen said. “OK, next question.”


But if you look at Kirby Smart's take on recruiting.....he suggests recruiting is all year round.

So, UF is trying to play catch-up to UGA, Bama, etc when the off season starts.

Even with prior coaches, I don't think we've suffered this badly in the recruiting trail.

This might be a big reason why we are at #32 in recruiting....and also 4-4 for the season. Mullen may not have the same mind towards recruiting, and those on his staff, compared to more successful programs.

I remember pre-Dan Era, that commits talked about how early UF recruiters got involved with them....even like 2-3 years before they graduated high school. I have a feeling this isn't happening under Mullen. And if I'm right.....UF will never win a natty with him. The recruiting issues were happening at his time at MSU as well. There's little chance he's going to change.

We really were a 7 win team last year without Trask. A program like Bama and UGA do well enough in recruiting that they don't live and die by one player.
 
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Mullen was asked if a different approach is needed in recruiting.

“We’re in the season right now, we’ll do recruiting after the season, when it gets to be recruiting time, we can talk about recruiting,” Mullen said. “OK, next question.”


But if you look at Kirby Smart's take on recruiting.....he suggests recruiting is all year round.

So, UF is trying to play catch-up to UGA, Bama, etc when the off season starts.

Even with prior coaches, I don't think we've suffered this badly in the recruiting trail.

This might be a big reason why we are at #32 in recruiting....and also 4-4 for the season. Mullen may not have the same mind towards recruiting, and those on his staff, compared to more successful programs.

I remember pre-Dan Era, that commits talked about how early UF recruiters got involved with them....even like 2-3 years before they graduated high school. I have a feeling this isn't happening under Mullen. And if I'm right.....UF will never win a natty with him. The recruiting issues were happening at his time at MSU as well. There's little chance he's going to change.

We really were a 7 win team last year without Trask. A program like Bama and UGA do well enough in recruiting that they don't live and die by one player.
What about all the recruits at the game? Were they ignored because it’s not recruiting season?
 
Not a great decision but Torrance was actually one of the few kids that actually showed up to play so I’m not going to be too hard on him. He was responsible for all 3 of our TOs.
You are correct. However, you see college kids and even pros do it all the time.
 
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Mullen was asked if a different approach is needed in recruiting.

“We’re in the season right now, we’ll do recruiting after the season, when it gets to be recruiting time, we can talk about recruiting,” Mullen said. “OK, next question.”


But if you look at Kirby Smart's take on recruiting.....he suggests recruiting is all year round.

So, UF is trying to play catch-up to UGA, Bama, etc when the off season starts.

Even with prior coaches, I don't think we've suffered this badly in the recruiting trail.

This might be a big reason why we are at #32 in recruiting....and also 4-4 for the season. Mullen may not have the same mind towards recruiting, and those on his staff, compared to more successful programs.

I remember pre-Dan Era, that commits talked about how early UF recruiters got involved with them....even like 2-3 years before they graduated high school. I have a feeling this isn't happening under Mullen. And if I'm right.....UF will never win a natty with him. The recruiting issues were happening at his time at MSU as well. There's little chance he's going to change.

We really were a 7 win team last year without Trask. A program like Bama and UGA do well enough in recruiting that they don't live and die by one player.

I wasn't sure if he meant "we wont talk about this until the offseason" or "we won't recruit hard until the offseason"... I thought he meant the first.
 
Actually, what's happened is you've fallen, and you can't get up.

But I'll bet you are a little rascal on your Little Rascal.
More entertaining than the football yappin drivel here, so I'm in....

Speaking of getting it up, I've been getting it up regularly for 70+ years, but your woman says that you can rarely get it up, or keep it up for more than 30 seconds...
 
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More entertaining than the football yappin drivel here, so I'm in....

Speaking of getting it up, I've been getting it up regularly for 70+ years, but your woman says that you can rarely get it up, or keep it up for more than 30 seconds...
Nobody wants to hear about your masturbatory prowess.
 
Nobody wants to hear about your masturbatory prowess.

There the little loopy lizzy goes again, attempting to speak for everyone else on the board. Problem is, he can't even speak very well for himself, being the chit-drivel loser twit that he is and has always been here.... 😎
 
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There the little loopy lizzy goes again, attempting to speak for everyone else on the board. Problem is, he can't even speak very well for himself, being the chit-drivel loser twit that he is and has always been here.... 😎
The title of this thread was certainly aimed at you, Mr. Low IQ.

You say I'm speaking for everybody? Well, yeah, I am. But hey, let's see if I'm wrong about this. Show of hands, who here wants to have Insta regale them with stories of Rosie Palm and her 5 friends? Personally, my hand is not up.
 
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