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[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

@GhostOfMatchesMalone i believe in order for civilians to be tried by military tribunal martial law has to be invoked by the President.

Watch the video in the first post. If a citizen is found to have collaborated with the enemy (and as you clarfed we ARE officially at war post 9-11), then they are classfed as an 'enemy combatant' and that opens the door to them being tried in the military system.

 

[BillCutting4585]

Watch the video in the first post. If a citizen is found to have collaborated with the enemy (and as you clarfed we ARE officially at war post 9-11), then they are classfed as an 'enemy combatant' and that opens the door to them being tried in the military system.

I’ll check it out, very interesting and telling at the same time 🤔

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I’ll check it out, very interesting and telling at the same time 🤔

Glad you are here. This thread was one of the most important topics posted here, and was largely ignored because most didn't understand the significance. It's why I kept updating it, cause I knew what was coming.

 

[Ncgatr1]

This is going to get very interesting

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Actually, we’ve been at war since 9/11 and when war time gets brought up, it gets extended by Congress.

Treason has to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy. China and Russia are not the enemy in the war on terror. I like neither, consider both our enemy and we should be playing economic hardball with both, like Reagan did, until their economies collapse. But they are not a declared enemy.

I believe we have cases for sedition and maybe espionage.

Rosenburgs were executed for espionage as Russia was an ally when they gave them the bomb info.

The Iran thing could be treason if any of the funds went to AQ.

I would convict if on a jury and it was proven that any of the money went to AQ via Iran.

My line of thinking is that Iran is a terror state and you knew good and well some of that money could go to AQ. Doubt most jurors would see it that way.

 

[BillCutting4585]

Treason has to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy. China and Russia are not the enemy in the war on terror. I like neither, consider both our enemy and we should be playing economic hardball with both, like Reagan did, until their economies collapse. But they are not a declared enemy.

I believe we have cases for sedition and maybe espionage.

Rosenburgs were executed for espionage as Russia was an ally when they gave them the bomb info.

The Iran thing could be treason if any of the funds went to AQ.

I would convict if on a jury and it was proven that any of the money went to AQ via Iran.

My line of thinking is that Iran is a terror state and you knew good and well some of that money could go to AQ. Doubt most jurors would see it that way.

I should clarify a bit, us being at “war” is a status that the Senate and House have to vote on periodically. It gives the commander in chief more power to enact certain policies that the president otherwise would not have.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Pres Trump was hard on china in trade deals, Lamar was hard on Trump.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

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Pres Trump was hard on china in trade deals, Lamar was hard on Trump.

Lamar is a good man who grew up in a different era and was too nice to be in the Senate in this day and age. I wanted to primary him but it never worked. He was one of the best university pres. and Gov in the state of TN. When the parties had the same goals but differed on means he was there. He never realized the era of compromise had ended because the dems no longer believe in Americanism.

He is retired.

Corker on the other hand was a turd. Blackburn is a 1000x better.

Hagerty is a suit (worked for Romney) who got Trumps endorsement. All hat no cattle. Manny was the real deal. Hargerty is probably a team player and he will fall in line even when he shouldn't.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

All (dem) roads lead to China?

 

[jfegaly]

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All (dem) roads lead to China?

Is the NY Times or CNN reporting it? If not, didn’t happen. @LizardGrad89 @lackofcharacter. Sorry just assumed that was your other screen name

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Treason has to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy. China and Russia are not the enemy in the war on terror.

What makes you think that? Especially since the US government has identified China as the greatest cyber threat we face.

Terrorism takes on many forms, cyber is absolutely one of them.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

What makes you think that? Especially since the US government has identified China as the greatest cyber threat we face.

Terrorism takes on many forms, cyber is absolutely one of them.

They have to be declared an enemy and war declared on them by congress. AUF did not include them.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

They have to be declared an enemy and war declared on them by congress. AUF did not include them.

Correct. And this was done in 2001 after the 9-11 attacks. Video in the OP spells it out.

 

[martycat1]

So what is it?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

So what is it?

What is what?

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

"AUMF

Preamble

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.
Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and

Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
Section 1 – Short Title

This joint resolution may be cited as the 'Authorization for Use of Military Force'.

Section 2 – Authorization For Use of United States Armed Forces

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution. "

Hmm dont see China or Russia mentioned and they were not part of 911 as far as I know.

I consider them an enemy , you consider them an enemy but for the purpose of Treason under COTUS we have not declared war on them and they are not the enemy.

 

[Ncgatr1]

Wait until the libs and media figure out that the EO signed in 2018, will soon give Trump the win.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Hmmmm....

 

[BillCutting4585]

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Hmmmm....

And to think the libs think Trump is the threat to America as the overlook the CCP that has already infiltrated our supposed “leaders”. Then tout Hiden as the exalted one who will unify the nation when he needs help reading a teleprompter or knowing where he’s at.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

And to think the libs think Trump is the threat to America as the overlook the CCP that has already infiltrated our supposed “leaders”. Then tout Hiden as the exalted one who will unify the nation when he needs help reading a teleprompter or knowing where he’s at.

A thief steals your custom made Brazilian grill and then invites you over for a cookout so that there are no hard feelings

 

[BillCutting4585]

A thief steals your custom made Brazilian grill and then invites you over for a cookout so that there are no hard feelings

Yeah buddy, well said

 

[fatman76]

Treason has to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy. China and Russia are not the enemy in the war on terror. I like neither, consider both our enemy and we should be playing economic hardball with both, like Reagan did, until their economies collapse. But they are not a declared enemy.

1) Terrorism isn't the only threat we face.

2) I'm old enough to remember that communism's main goal is to spread, and to overtake any government that can prove its faults.

100% they are an enemy because if given the opportunity they'd destroy our political system, way of life and ultimately freedom. Fairly certain at least one of them is actively trying to do it right now. IMO this might be what wars now look like as mutual physical destruction is, well, mutual physical destruction.

 

[BillCutting4585]

1) Terrorism isn't the only threat we face.

2) I'm old enough to remember that communism's main goal is to spread, and to overtake any government that can prove its faults.

100% they are an enemy because if given the opportunity they'd destroy our political system, way of life and ultimately freedom. Fairly certain at least one of them is actively trying to do it right now. IMO this might be what wars now look like as mutual physical destruction is, well, mutual physical destruction.

Our biggest threat to our way of life is the people that have been elected.

China: Dance for me monkey

US Politicians:

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Wow! Look at this thread, how many 'Tweet not available' do you see?

What did we learn from The Twitter Files? The FBI sent former agents to work at Twitter, then worked directly with those agents to have content pulled down.

Why would the FBI want content highlighting corruption in China pulled down?

Guys, all the answers are there, if you do some digging. This is why I never waste my time trying to argue what's coming with posters here.

I've done the research, so I know what's happening, and what's coming. It will arrive whether you believe in it or not.

Do your homework, and you'll see what's coming too.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Treason is defined in the Constitution as giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of WAR. We are not at War with China or Russia and blackmail by a pedophile acting on behalf of a foreign gubmint that we are not at war with is not treason either. I am sure some law is probably being violated but it is not gong to be prosecuted in a military court or result in a death penalty case unless Trump becomes the dictator the left claims he wants to be. Unless provable murder has happened in all of the Shenanigans. You are going to have to have the goods for someone aiding Al Qaeda and other groups that have been identified under the war on terror.

War is different now. There are shots being fired we do not know about, just like there were in the cold war. We ARE at war with China, make NO mistake about it. There are ships at sea testing each other daily...planes flying in to contested area's. Just because it is not "declared" does not mean we are not at war. First thing comes to mind is 9/11. Bin Laden told the WORLD he was at war with us...and we ignored him.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

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This is the MOST important tweet ever.......this tells the WHOLE story here

 

[Capt Ron 1]

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All (dem) roads lead to China?

And about 75% of the Republicans

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

War is different now. There are shots being fired we do not know about, just like there were in the cold war. We ARE at war with China, make NO mistake about it. There are ships at sea testing each other daily...planes flying in to contested area's. Just because it is not "declared" does not mean we are not at war. First thing comes to mind is 9/11. Bin Laden told the WORLD he was at war with us...and we ignored him.

We have been at war since 9-11. Here is the video in the OP that YouTube deleted:



"I do, Senator, because Congress passed the authorization for the use of military force WHICH IS STILL IN EFFECT, and that was passed, of course, on September 14th, 2001."

So we have been in a state of war since 9-11. That designation has been extended since 9-11 and it gives the President certain powers as a result.

 

[gatordad3]

We have been at war since 9-11. Here is the video in the OP that YouTube deleted:

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"I do, Senator, because Congress passed the authorization for the use of military force WHICH IS STILL IN EFFECT, and that was passed, of course, on September 14th, 2001."

So we have been in a state of war since 9-11. That designation has been extended since 9-11 and it gives the President certain powers as a result.

Lindsey Graham looks like the crackhead kid(Adam Rich) on Eight Is Enough.