Violence and craziness
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ummm....what planet are you living on Doc? You do realize there have been MASSIVE increases in violent crime across the entire country since the Pandemic took hold don't you? I mean, I know you have been in a bubble treating patients, but all you have to do is do a quick search on the ol interwebs. Hell, even google search will show ya.
And yes, I am tying lockdowns, masking which impacts social interactions, the economic impact of both to psychological issues. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to tie that together. It's not even a stretch at all doc.
and yes, I know you already know this, and are just stirring up shat. Is your supposition that mitigation efforts have had no psychological impact, and had no influence on the wave of violent crime increase since the Pandemic began?
If so, I am certain you pulled a hammy with that one.
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No I go along with the idea that mitigation efforts have had a social impact, whether it’s negative or positive will be determined, I think it’s negative. But violence was on the rise before the pandemic. I link a great deal of the increase in violence on the portrayal of police as racist and the dehumanization of police by the media as well as the dehumanization of each other based off political leanings also created by the media. If you want to point a finger at the increase in violence I think you would be more accurate if you pointed at the media than the pandemic, although I’m certain the pandemic is taking a bit of a toll.
I know you have strong opinions about this pandemic but I think you would probably get on board with the idea that the media may be driving all of this violence including the pandemic hysteria more than the virus itself?
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Oh I agree the media is playing a huge roll in both the pandemic, the violence, the police etc. Where we disagree is that you seem to indicate that you don't know if mitigation efforts have had negative or positive social/psychological impacts. Yet there are many studies already out there showing you negative impacts. You would be hard pressed to come up with positive social impacts. If you don't mind, please point me to the increase before the pandemic. I would be willing to bet I can show you dramatic increases after the pandemic that were extremely higher than before.
Not sure why as a doctor, you would even question that the pandemic and mitigation efforts (lockdowns and masking) have had psychological impacts that have lead to more violent crimes. If you want to say there are more factors, OK....but to act like mitigation efforts haven't had an impact (which is what you insinuated was a "stretch) is almost ignorant at this point.
Pretty sure you are trolling at this point, but that is kinda your schtick, so I get it.
2020: The Deadliest Year In Drug History
2020 is the deadliest year in drug history, with declining mental health due to COVID-19 encouraging more substance abuse to occur.
www.addictioncenter.com
In other words my friend, I just think your view that the pandemic and the mitigation for the pandemic being the cause of the increase in violence is myopic. Violence in America has been increasing substantially since 2016 driven by the media which is dividing this country as fast as it can. It’s driven by the politicians that are using the media to divide this country as fast as I can to carve it up for their personal spoils. The pandemic was just an opportunity to further this agenda of dividing us to conquer us piecemeal.
I think that’s the true conspiracy, most of it unwitting, some of it very intentional. I think you, being a smart as you are, might agree that’s more the culprit and you do the true issues a disservice just blaming the mitigation. Just my opinion my friend.
I think that’s the true conspiracy, most of it unwitting, some of it very intentional. I think you, being a smart as you are, might agree that’s more the culprit and you do the true issues a disservice just blaming the mitigation. Just my opinion my friend.
No, like I clearly said I don’t know for sure whether they’ve had a negative or a positive impact, but I suspect, strongly suspect, more negative than positive. If you’ve read anything I’ve posted you know that’s how I feel. As for anything you’re gonna post off the Internet I refer you back to your own arguments about how most news these days is opinion that will shape shift statistics to bolster what they are selling.Oh I agree the media is playing a huge roll in both the pandemic, the violence, the police etc. Where we disagree is that you seem to indicate that you don't know if mitigation efforts have had negative or positive social/psychological impacts. Yet there are many studies already out there showing you negative impacts. You would be hard pressed to come up with positive social impacts. If you don't mind, please point me to the increase before the pandemic. I would be willing to bet I can show you dramatic increases after the pandemic that were extremely higher than before.
Not sure why as a doctor, you would even question that the pandemic and mitigation efforts (lockdowns and masking) have had psychological impacts that have lead to more violent crimes. If you want to say there are more factors, OK....but to act like mitigation efforts haven't had an impact (which is what you insinuated was a "stretch) is almost ignorant at this point.
Pretty sure you are trolling at this point, but that is kinda your schtick, so I get it.
2020: The Deadliest Year In Drug History
2020 is the deadliest year in drug history, with declining mental health due to COVID-19 encouraging more substance abuse to occur.
Again I just think you’re being myopic just blame the pandemic, do you want to get to the root of the increase in violence go to the real problems, the pandemic medication is just a red herring, one of mini they’re using in the media and in politics to the virus. No the real enemy as you would say
again just my opinion.
Violence in America has been going DOWN for decades. Unless its a democrat ran city
Violent trends in America have been going up since 2019. Particularly in the last two years as they have been dehumanizing police and each other to us.
Again I don’t wanna overstate my supposition since it’s simply my opinion, but I believe all the increase in violence you’re going to see over the next several years it’s not because of the pandemic but because of the media and the division, political divisions, in this country. The pandemic is just a tool in that fight.
You guys are so obsessed with the pandemic he need to be careful not to miss the big picture. Again just my opinion
No, like I clearly said I don’t know for sure whether they’ve had a negative or a positive impact, but I suspect, strongly suspect, more negative than positive. If you’ve read anything I’ve posted you know that’s how I feel. As for anything you’re gonna post off the Internet I refer you back to your own arguments about how most news these days is opinion that will shape shift statistics to bolster what they are selling.
Again I just think you’re being myopic just blame the pandemic, do you want to get to the root of the increase in violence go to the real problems, the pandemic medication is just a red herring, one of mini they’re using in the media and in politics to the virus. No the real enemy as you would say
Guessing you meant mitigation here and not medication? We are just going to have to agree to disagree. Again, I can get on board with multiple factors leading to increased violence, but I think you are being naive if you think lockdowns, people losing their jobs because of those lockdowns, mask wearing which suppresses emotional interaction, hasn't had a psychological impact leading to more violent crimes....then you are probably just trying to argue, to argue. (again, your schtick, so I get it)
I am not blaming the pandemic, I am blaming the lockdowns and other mitigation efforts for psychological impacts that assisted in increased violent crimes. I posted the link above that showed increased drug use over the course of the pandemic for a reason. They go hand in hand with psychological issues, which leads to instability.
Again, I am willing to concede there are other factors, but it seems you are unwilling to acknowledge the FACT that mitigation efforts had, and are having a psychological impact.
Again, the one stretching here......I believe you pulled a hammy.
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Directly from the article....
however the spread of COVID-19 has caused sharp increases in such findings. As a result, studies noticed a 59% increase in alcohol use, increases in Opioid overdoses and rises in suicidal thoughts. Additional statistics include 81,000 reported drug overdoses in a 12-month period during 2020, becoming the highest ever recorded in a year.
Directly from the article....
however the spread of COVID-19 has caused sharp increases in such findings. As a result, studies noticed a 59% increase in alcohol use, increases in Opioid overdoses and rises in suicidal thoughts. Additional statistics include 81,000 reported drug overdoses in a 12-month period during 2020, becoming the highest ever recorded in a year.
Like I said I strongly believe it probably has hurt the world, I called for the end mitigation mitigation back in April of last year, but we really won’t know the impact Of the social mitigation for years. You guys are pandemic obsessed, keep your eye on the real ball.
Around my area, crime has been on a rise way before the pandemic, more like 2017. Now it's just out of control. I think the media destroying the police reputation is a great part of it. In Philly, police retirement compared to enrollment is at all time high. That big gap is destroying the police ability to staff and police at this time. Bad police officers are great news stories, I don't know it is, so the media focus on the bad police officers, well truthfully they only focus on when it's different races because nothing sales better than racism. It's the media and they need to get their stuff together. Dividing this country shouldn't be monetized.
I agree we won’t know the full impact for years, but the above quote from the article offers a glimpse, and to act like it’s not a factor would be making a much larger stretch than acting like it is. Increased drug use, increased mental health issues and violent crime go hand in hand.
As for being obsessed with the plandemic, just like your wife, I can keep my eyes on multiple balls at a time.
You don't even know how the people in your area vote, bro.
93% of blacks in Philly voted for Hiden. Not 81%.
Dude is batshit weird.
Additionally, 2020 was an election year. blm and antfa came out of hiberation, and now they are back in it, till 2024.
Agreed. Now he is so desperate he is bumping my entire post history. Meltdown is bordering bs cucks. Pure awesomeness
