Uhhh...ok...So our loss to FSU MEANT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....

[sadgator]

(Still at 15 WTF?!?!?!?) ..and Michigan is ranked higher than either would-be Big 10 Champ with identical records...whoa...

Maybe sadgator was wrong about this playoff thing after all...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

 

[oozie7]

Yep. Like I've been saying the whole thing was political. Idk why anybody thought it would be smart to have a bunch of people with their biases deciding in a backroom who gets to go to a playoff. This BS is why we went to the computers originally to begin with. Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games and have dropped exactly two spots during that time. It's ridiculous.

 

[Duo]

Sad...........

Who do you think will win between Michigan and FSU in the Orange Bowl?

 

[sadgator]

Yep. Like I've been saying the whole thing was political. Idk why anybody thought it would be smart to have a bunch of people with their biases deciding in a backroom who gets to go to a playoff. This BS is why we went to the computers originally to begin with. Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games and have dropped exactly two spots during that time. It's ridiculous.

The rankings are absurd...you are right about that...sadgator blames Condi...she is probably a bitch in that room...

 

[sadgator]

Sad...........

Who do you think will win between Michigan and FSU in the Orange Bowl?

FSU would win that game.

 

[93nole99]

(Still at 15 WTF?!?!?!?) ..and Michigan is ranked higher than either would-be Big 10 Champ with identical records...whoa...

Maybe sadgator was wrong about this playoff thing after all...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

Sadgator makes an interesting observation. The conspiracy theorists might suggest the committee was trying to preserve credibility for the SECCG.

Yep. Like I've been saying the whole thing was political. Idk why anybody thought it would be smart to have a bunch of people with their biases deciding in a backroom who gets to go to a playoff. This BS is why we went to the computers originally to begin with. Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games and have dropped exactly two spots during that time. It's ridiculous.

Well...if they drop Michigan too far they wont be able to have Harbaugh in the CFP. This is about as objective as figure skating. LMFAO if two teams from the big ten get in and neither played in the conference championship. Looks like they really want Saban Harbaugh and Meyer. Games are counting less.

 

[bradleygator]

If the committee is going to be swayed by glamorous head coaches, I think we'll do just fine.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Yep. Like I've been saying the whole thing was political. Idk why anybody thought it would be smart to have a bunch of people with their biases deciding in a backroom who gets to go to a playoff. This BS is why we went to the computers originally to begin with. Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games and have dropped exactly two spots during that time. It's ridiculous.

Do you disagree with the top four or five? If you think they got that right, the rest of the poll is somewhat meaningless. They are responsible for getting the playoff right and really nothing more.

 

[oozie7]

Do you disagree with the top four or five? If you think they got that right, the rest of the poll is somewhat meaningless. They are responsible for getting the playoff right and really nothing more.

I do. And the other rankings determine who goes to the major bowl games so I wouldn't say those don't matter, plus 5-8 can still come into play. If Washington or Clemson were to lose this weekend suddenly there are 3 Big 10 teams in the Final 4, two of which wouldn't have even won their division. That's insanity.

 

[JWtruthsquad]

For a system that was supposed to clean up the BCS mess it sure doesn't appear to be doing any better.

 

[sadgator]

5 conference champs...3 at large...problem solved...gonna happen.

 

[danoleman]

For a system that was supposed to clean up the BCS mess it sure doesn't appear to be doing any better.

It's actually worse. I was fine with the BCS. They should have just taken the top 4 BCS and there's your playoff. I hate the committee being involved. Whole lot of bias

 

[Pepe Nole]

If the committee is going to be swayed by glamorous head coaches, I think we'll do just fine.

+1. I think he's wearing the tie from his T.V. commercial.

 

[bradleygator]

+1. I think he's wearing the tie from his T.V. commercial.

Good catch.

 

[JWtruthsquad]

5+3 makes more sense and it will probably eventually get to that, but we will still have the problem of the numbnuts figuring out who 6-8 will be. They are doing nothing more than a beauty contest with different criteria given each week as to what they look at. I still don't know wtf "game control" even is, let alone how in the world it can carry more weight than, oh I don't know, something like who actually won the GD games. We probably would have been better off using the old BCS system and including the top 4.

 

[oozie7]

It's actually worse. I was fine with the BCS. They should have just taken the top 4 BCS and there's your playoff. I hate the committee being involved. Whole lot of bias

This. So simple. They should also move the regular season back to 10 or 11 games. I don't want to hear anything about the 'student-athlete' when if you include playoff games teams are playing the equivalent of an NFL schedule. If they expand it to 6-8 teams then those teams will play 16 games.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I do. And the other rankings determine who goes to the major bowl games so I wouldn't say those don't matter, plus 5-8 can still come into play. If Washington or Clemson were to lose this weekend suddenly there are 3 Big 10 teams in the Final 4, two of which wouldn't have even won their division. That's insanity.

OK. So which team should be in the top five? Not trying to be argumentative, but I just don't see a lot of teams not in the top five that can claim a place.

 

[Pepe Nole]

maybe the 5 conference champs?

 

[MJWilliamson]

maybe the 5 conference champs?

If by some miracle, Florida won Saturday, would you still support this view? How about if VaTech won? Or any team with two to three losses that is also a conference champ?

 

[bradleygator]

Yeah, you'd end up with some shaky teams in the playoffs if you sent the winners of the conference championship games. You'd have to have a qualifier. Like you have to be in the top 10 to get the automatic bid. But that would get real messy if you leave the rankings up to the committee.

 

[TheRealJoePistone29]

I love the new system!

 

[oozie7]

OK. So which team should be in the top five? Not trying to be argumentative, but I just don't see a lot of teams not in the top five that can claim a place.

My biggest beef is with Michigan. They've lost two of their last three...what top 5 team does that? I'd probably put OU there. They lose two games early to a 9-3 UH team and an 11-1 OSU team. That's easily the toughest OOC schedule in the country. If we're going to punish teams for trying to put together tough schedules then what's the point? They've won 6-7 straight and have looked pretty good. If they sweep the Big 12 I'd say they deserve to be in the top 5 at least. The Big 12 isn't that good but it's still hard to go undefeated in a Power 5 conference.

 

[MJWilliamson]

My biggest beef is with Michigan. They've lost two of their last three...what top 5 team does that? I'd probably put OU there. They lose two games early to a 9-3 UH team and an 11-1 OSU team. That's easily the toughest OOC schedule in the country. If we're going to punish teams for trying to put together tough schedules then what's the point? They've won 6-7 straight and have looked pretty good. If they sweep the Big 12 I'd say they deserve to be in the top 5 at least. The Big 12 isn't that good but it's still hard to go undefeated in a Power 5 conference.

Ok.

If one looks at Massey's composite ranking of over 100 ranking sites, most computer but some human, the top six teams are, in order;

Alabama
OSU
Clemson
Michigan
Washington
Wisconsin

Penn State (#8) and Wisconsin are playing in the championship game. Both can burnish their resume with a win

 

[oozie7]

It really surprised me that both computers and humans have Ohio St. so high. The logic there to me just doesn't add up. The arguments I've heard is that they played a tough OOC schedule and are supposedly the best in the Big 10. But then those same pundits turn around and downgrade Oklahoma which is their big OOC win, how does that make sense? Then in conference they lose to Penn St. and got dominated by Michigan even though they managed to win. They've also been in dogfights with shit teams like Northwestern and Michigan St. Oh and they won't be playing for their conference title either so idk how you without question say they're the best Big 10 team. You can make an argument, sure. But people act as if it's a no-brainer and I'm not seeing that. Oh well.

 

[GordonGecko]

(Still at 15 WTF?!?!?!?) ..and Michigan is ranked higher than either would-be Big 10 Champ with identical records...whoa...

Maybe sadgator was wrong about this playoff thing after all...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

I will confess I DID NOT READ THIS THREAD.

We didn't move down because of what other teams did last weekend.

If UF's BLOWOUT loss to FSU was the ONLY loss for the teams ranked closely to UF, we would have dropped.

It's complicated....like Danny's gender.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

If by some miracle, Florida won Saturday, would you still support this view? How about if VaTech won? Or any team with two to three losses that is also a conference champ?

In an 8 team playoff, if UF beats Bama and takes the SEC championship, I think they should be in. Bama would still get an at-large slot. I think winning a major conference should still mean something. Otherwise, it's all in the hands of the ranking committee.

How about this:

8 slots total:

• 5 slots for the P5 champs
• 1 slot for the top-rated "Group of Five" (non-P5) team
• 2 at-large slot, "wildcard" slots for the top-ranked, remaining teams, regardless of conference affiliation

This takes some of the power out of the hands of the committee, and ensures that winning a conference still means something.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

+1. I think he's wearing the tie from his T.V. commercial.

Those loafers are fierce.

 

[MJWilliamson]

In an 8 team playoff, if UF beats Bama and takes the SEC championship, I think they should be in. Bama would still get an at-large slot. I think winning a major conference should still mean something. Otherwise, it's all in the hands of the ranking committee.

How about this:

8 slots total:

• 5 slots for the P5 champs
• 1 slot for the top-rated "Group of Five" (non-P5) team
• 2 at-large slot, "wildcard" slots for the top-ranked, remaining teams, regardless of conference affiliation

This takes some of the power out of the hands of the committee, and ensures that winning a conference still means something.

OK? But I was talking about our current, four team play format. Which your fellow teammate was also discussing.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

OK? But I was talking about our current, four team play format. Which your fellow teammate was also discussing.

Well, there are 5 P5 conferences, and only 4 slots for the playoffs...

 

[Dannygator1989]

I will confess I DID NOT READ THIS THREAD.

We didn't move down because of what other teams did last weekend.

If UF's BLOWOUT loss to FSU was the ONLY loss for the teams ranked closely to UF, we would have dropped.

It's complicated....like Danny's gender.

Wait, what? I'm confused?

 

[MJWilliamson]

Well, there are 5 P5 conferences, and only 4 slots for the playoffs...

OK? But I was talking about our current, four team play format. And the process for deciding the four slots. You are going in an entirely different direction. Which is fine for that discussion. But not particularly illuminating for the discussion about the current format.

 

[gatorRAD]

I kinda like the fact that we could end up in the top 10 and SEC Champs as well.......GOD please?

 

[oozie7]

Wait, what? I'm confused?

I think he's calling you non-binary. Idk though.

 

[46885]

is binary a new weeknd song featuring daft punk?

 

[sadgator]

Is binary a new brand of tequila?

 

[Dannygator1989]

Is binary a new brand of tequila?

And I thought my snide reference to being "confused" was going to be the funniest part.

 

[alaskanseminole]

If the committee is going to be swayed by glamorous head coaches, I think we'll do just fine.

Sweet Googly Moogly!

 

[saenole]

Conference bias seems to be the only explanation for Michigan dropping only two spots after losing two of their last three games...one to an unranked team. It seems that once the committee has decided that a particular conference is the prettiest girl in the room, mainly based on conference members playing each other, any loss within conference can be explained away. Most non-SEC fans think that this bias has been in place in that conference's favor the last few years, and this year it looks like the Big Ten is the beneficiary.

And I have no idea how/why you guys stayed in place this week. It probably helps the Seminoles that you did, but it's a head-scratcher.

 

[oozie7]

They did the same thing in 06' with Ohio St. and Michigan. I don't think it's even really a conference thing as much as a blue bloods thing. All the powers that a lot of these media members grew up watching like USC, Notre Dame, Ohio St., Michigan, Texas etc. they gush over nonstop. Even when those teams aren't good we get told over and over "CFB is better when these teams are good!" Texas went from ubranked to 11 after one win opening weekend. Nebraska wa a top 10 team early in the season not playing a damn soul. The bias is strong for all the traditional powers.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

If a higher-ranked Florida factored into our SOS gets us a game with Michigan, in the Orange Bowl, I ain't complaining.