UF/LSU Stat Comparisons For What It's Worth)

[ocalaman]

UF is 36th in defensive yards allowed, LSU is 17th.
UF is 19th in offensive yards gained, LSU is 8th.
UF is 11th in pass defense, LSU is 2nd.
UF is 26th in rushing defense, LSU is 9th.
UF is 65th in rushing offense, LSU is 82nd.
UF is 11th in passing offense, LSU is 2nd.
UF has 131 first downs, LSU has 139.
UF is #1 in interceptions with 12; LSU is tied for #40 with 5.
UF is #3 in sacks with 26, LSU is tied at #42 with 13.
UF is 11th in defensive efficiency, LSU is 36th.
UF is 48th in offensive efficiency, LSU is 4th.
UF is 30th in 3rd down conversion at 44.8%, LSU is #1 at 56.9%.
UF is 56th in penalties against with 34, LSU is 85th with 28.
UF is 23rd in net punting at 41.6, LSU is 11th at 42.8.
Joe Burrow has a 91.0 QBR, 4th in FBS; Kyle Trask's rating is 68.8, 43rd in FBS.
Both teams are 7 for 8 in field goals; UF is 23 for 23 in extra points, LSU is 34 for 35.

Here's the link: http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

Burrows' stats won't look as great when he's on his back.

 

[ocalaman]

More stats from Pat Dooley's Back Nine column today:
Anyone with a set of eyes knows how well Florida played defensively against Auburn. You know how I feel about points per game allowed and it being the most important defensive stat there is and UF is fifth in the nation. When you have the lead at the half and allow zero points in the second half, that usually translates well. Here’s a stat that a reader pointed out and I looked it up to make sure it was right — Florida’s defense committed no penalties in the game (the offense had five and special teams one). When you play that kind of defense and are disciplined, that’s pretty amazing. “It’s huge. It just showed you how clean we played,” Mullen said. “You want to be out there (on defense) the least number of plays possible. The discipline showed in our guys.” (Except that there were only 10 men on the field on the amazing Shawn Davis interception. But I digress.) The Gators lead the nation in interceptions and red zone defense. And here’s another stat — Florida has 16 plays of 30 or more yards and has only allowed six. Both of those numbers have Florida in the top 20 nationally.

 

[instaGATOR]

Current NCAA Total Defense Rankings:

3. Mizzou
9. UGly
13. Mia - (UF 24 - 20 UM)
17. UF
32. LSU - (LSU 45 - 38 TX)
33. AU - (UF 24 - 13)
47. OK
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102. TX - (TX 38 - 45 LSU)

 

[One67]

Current NCAA Total Defense Rankings:

3. Mizzou
9. UGly
13. Mia - (UF 24 - 20 UM)
17. UF
32. LSU - (LSU 45 - 38)
33. AU - (UF 24 - 13)
47. OK
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102. TX - (TX 38 - 45 LSU)

total D
UF - 276 yds per game -- 4.5 yards per play
LSU - 289 yds per game -- 4.4 yards per play

rush D
UF - 93 yds per game -- 2.9 per att
LSU - 81 yds per game -- 2.6 per att

pass D
UF - 183 yds per game -- 6.3 yds per att
LSU - 206 yds per game -- 6.1 yds per att

Not much difference between any of these numbers

When comparing these numbers LSU has faced the best offense out of all our opponents, Texas. They have also faced a second QB (Jordan Love, Utah State) that is better than anything the gators have gone against.

Opened up the season VS a triple option team, Georgia Southern. They have been known to give some SEC teams fits. An offense like that can make a defense's rush total look real bad.

 

[CountyGator2]

total D
UF - 276 yds per game -- 4.5 yards per play
LSU - 289 yds per game -- 4.4 yards per play

rush D
UF - 93 yds per game -- 2.9 per att
LSU - 81 yds per game -- 2.6 per att

pass D
UF - 183 yds per game -- 6.3 yds per att
LSU - 206 yds per game -- 6.1 yds per att

Not much difference between any of these numbers

When comparing these numbers LSU has faced the best offense out of all our opponents, Texas. They have also faced a second QB (Jordan Love, Utah State) that is better than anything the gators have gone against.

Opened up the season VS a triple option team, Georgia Southern. They have been known to give some SEC teams fits. An offense like that can make a defense's rush total look real bad.

Yep, and Texas ran up over 500 yards and scored 38 points. Are you suggesting that the other schools LSU has played thus are better than Auburn, Kentucky or Miami?

 

[One67]

Yep, and Texas ran up over 500 yards and scored 38 points. Are you suggesting that the other schools LSU has played thus are better than Auburn, Kentucky or Miami?

I'm saying the horns are the best team either one of us has faced. Jordan Love (Utah St) is better than any QB gators have faced. A triple option team can lead to inflated rushing numbers for a defense.

Auburn started a TrFR QB. Kentucky started a backup QB. Miami started a TrFr QB, RFr and two TrFR on the Oline.

Even with all those yards and all those points scored by the horns "O", once the tigers went up 20-7 in the first half at no time till the end of the game did UTs "O" start a possession with a chance to tie the game or take the lead. Texas "O" is better than UF "O". Better QB. Better OL. WR just as good.

 

[NorthJerseyGator]

Grantham NFL pedigree vs Brady NFL pedigree.......see whose smarts and wherewithal prevails

 

[grommit]

I'm saying the horns are the best team either one of us has faced. Jordan Love (Utah St) is better than any QB gators have faced. A triple option team can lead to inflated rushing numbers for a defense.

Auburn started a TrFR QB. Kentucky started a backup QB. Miami started a TrFr QB, RFr and two TrFR on the Oline.

Even with all those yards and all those points scored by the horns "O", once the tigers went up 20-7 in the first half at no time till the end of the game did UTs "O" start a possession with a chance to tie the game or take the lead. Texas "O" is better than UF "O". Better QB. Better OL. WR just as good.

The question is, will any of those numbers matter when LSU faces The SEC's #1 pass rush defense in Florida? As far as LSU's defense goes, Vandy scored 38 points on LSU. 38 points. Vandy couldn't even score a touchdown against Ole Piss this past weekend, but put up 38 on LSU.

And no, the Horns are not the best team either LSU or Florida has faced so far, but it doesn't matter. LSU guaranteed they were going to win last year too and Joe Burrow shit his pants in that game.

 

[CountyGator2]

I'm saying the horns are the best team either one of us has faced. Jordan Love (Utah St) is better than any QB gators have faced. A triple option team can lead to inflated rushing numbers for a defense.

Auburn started a TrFR QB. Kentucky started a backup QB. Miami started a TrFr QB, RFr and two TrFR on the Oline.

Even with all those yards and all those points scored by the horns "O", once the tigers went up 20-7 in the first half at no time till the end of the game did UTs "O" start a possession with a chance to tie the game or take the lead. Texas "O" is better than UF "O". Better QB. Better OL. WR just as good.

That Auburn front 7 is about as good as it gets in football. I am not so certain Texas is better. I can promise you our D is much better than any D you've seen up to this point. I agree with you offensively that Texas is better. Interestingly enough that Ok St and WVU held texas to fewer yards than the lsu defense.

 

[instaGATOR]

3-2 UtSt 35 - 38 WF
2-3 GaSo 24 - 37 Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns

Auburn, even with a legacy Fr Nix at QB, is better than Texazz.

None of this or any prior stats will matter on Sat night.
Whichever team plays the better game will win.
(I'm thinking that's UF, but we'll see)

I notice that you didn't list these 3 stats for both teams though?
Sacks
TFL
Interceptions
And LSU has yet to play a team with a defense....

 

[One67]

3-2 UtSt 35 - 38 WF
2-3 GaSo 24 - 37 Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns

Auburn, even with a legacy Fr Nix at QB, is better than Texazz.

None of this or any prior stats will matter on Sat night.
Whichever team plays the better game will win.
(I'm thinking that's UF, but we'll see)

I notice that you didn't list these 3 stats for both teams though?
Sacks
TFL
Interceptions
And LSU has yet to play a team with a defense....

The OP covered those stats very well. Didn't fell the need to add anything there.

Texas would put a worse beatdown on Auburn in Austin than what the gators did in Gainsville. That horns "O" is lightyears better than the gators.

Please enlighten me. What's the relevance of those first two game scores?

 

[One67]

That Auburn front 7 is about as good as it gets in football. I am not so certain Texas is better. I can promise you our D is much better than any D you've seen up to this point. I agree with you offensively that Texas is better. Interestingly enough that Ok St and WVU held texas to fewer yards than the lsu defense.

No doubt this will be LSU's biggest test to date. That gator "D" in legit.

Did Ok St and WV have points added to their game total because they held horns to fewer yards than did the tigers? We all know it's points scored that wins games and the horns won both of them. Both were on the road I believe.

 

[One67]

The question is, will any of those numbers matter when LSU faces The SEC's #1 pass rush defense in Florida? As far as LSU's defense goes, Vandy scored 38 points on LSU. 38 points. Vandy couldn't even score a touchdown against Ole Piss this past weekend, but put up 38 on LSU.

And no, the Horns are not the best team either LSU or Florida has faced so far, but it doesn't matter. LSU guaranteed they were going to win last year too and Joe Burrow shit his pants in that game.

What exactly is "pass rush defense"? I have never seen that term used before.

What will it say about the gator offense when LSU holds them to under 20?

You actually believe auburn is better than texas? Horns would score 30-40 points on auburn.

Different season, different "O" and different stadium.

You are correct all those numbers mean squat once the whistle blows. As for now they give us something to talk about.

 

[PacoGator19]

The OP covered those stats very well. Didn't fell the need to add anything there.

Texas would put a worse beatdown on Auburn in Austin than what the gators did in Gainsville. That horns "O" is lightyears better than the gators.

Please enlighten me. What's the relevance of those first two game scores?

What makes you say that Texas would beat Auburn bad? Texas didn’t exactly look that impressive in their last few games against Okie St or West Virginia. The Texas defense looks pretty lousy.

 

[GatorGraz]

I could see Texas potentially beating Auburn but it would not be a blowout....I would take Auburn's defense over Texas's defense any day of the week and Auburn's offense is good but they just got manhandled last Saturday by a finally completely healthy Florida defense. Auburn would score quite often on that Texas defense.

At the end of the day, all this doesn't mean anything. The one thing that is certain is this will be the best defense that LSU has faced all year by a long shot and on the flip side, this will be the best offense that Florida has faced all year by a long shot!

 

[CountyGator2]

No doubt this will be LSU's biggest test to date. That gator "D" in legit.

Did Ok St and WV have points added to their game total because they held horns to fewer yards than did the tigers? We all know it's points scored that wins games and the horns won both of them. Both were on the road I believe.

Agreed, both Texas wins were on the road. But the Texas D has not been very good this year. Auburn would do fine against Texas, don't know if they would win, but the game would be competitive. Auburn will also do fine against LSU. They are a good team. As to our game, Gator offense is not a thing of beauty. We won't be good enough to overcome turnovers against lsu so that will be the most critical stat line for this game.

 

[PacoGator19]

Agreed, both Texas wins were on the road. But the Texas D has not been very good this year. Auburn would do fine against Texas, don't know if they would win, but the game would be competitive. Auburn will also do fine against LSU. They are a good team. As to our game, Gator offense is not a thing of beauty. We won't be good enough to overcome turnovers against lsu so that will be the most critical stat line for this game.

Texas played Okie St in Austin. It was a home game for Texas.

 

[CountyGator2]

Texas played Okie St in Austin. It was a home game for Texas.

My bad....for some reason I thought they were on the road.

 

[Gator Fever]

Those numbers mean more late in the season.

I do think LSUs passing game is much improved and both teams have a good defense with Florida having the edge there. I think our offense being one dimensional will hurt our chances a lot to win this game.

 

[instaGATOR]

This clueless corndog reminds me of the twit barner that was all over our board last week, before he suddenly disappeared post game...

5. LSU 5-0, 1-0 (beat VU)
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7. UF 6-0, 3-0 SEC (beat UK, TN, AU)

How is it possible that #7 UF is a 13.5 point dog to #5 LSU?
Either the rankings are F-o-S (5-7), or the odds makers (-13.5) are....
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The Gators will be underdogs for the 6th time in Dan Mullen's 2 seasons at UF when they play Saturday at No. 5 LSU, having won 4 of the previous 5 such games including his last meeting vs LSU, and last weekend against Auburn.

The Gators are 2nd in the SEC and 10th nationally in Total Defense, 1st in the league and 5th nationally in Scoring Defense, and they lead the Nation in Takeaways.

LSU scored 45 pts vs the #102 ranked Texazz excuse for a Big12-10-whatever defense.

UF was held to a season low 24 pts by the #15 Miami defense.
But the corndog claims that LSU's #17 defense is going to hold UF to under 20 pts.... (with the chitty-incompetent-biased SEC refs I guess it is possible.. )

While Candy (VU) scored 38 pts on the LSU defense...
Must be another one of those cumloudly-grad corndog making those pre-dik-shuns....
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Per Stats at NCAA.com

Total Defense - 11 UF - 13 UGly - 17 LSU - 23. aTm - 35. UA - 41. AU

Interceptions - 1. UF 12/175 - 10t. Mizz 7/151 - 16t Tn 6/143 - 16t UA 6/171 -- NR LSU

Rush D - 8. LSU (2.61 ypc) - 12. Mizz - 16 UF (2.88 ypc)

TFL - 13. UF - 27t AU & MS - 38t. aTm, SCa, UGly, LSU.

Turnovers Gained - 1. UF 17 - 3t MsSt 14 - 15t. UA - 24t Ark & Mizz - 37t. Tn & UK - NR LSU

Red Zone Def - 1. UF - 8t. Mizz - 8t. UGly - 8t. LSU

Scoring Def - 5. UF - 7 UGly - 10. Mizz - 13. UA - 20. aTm - 22t. AU - 29t. LSU

But the only stat that will matter this Saturday night is the score, because as we all learned last season (UF 27 - 19 LSU), rankings don't mean a thing once the ball is kicked off...

 

[PacoGator19]

Those numbers mean more late in the season.

I do think LSUs passing game is much improved and both teams have a good defense with Florida having the edge there. I think our offense being one dimensional will hurt our chances a lot to win this game.

LSUs offense is 1 dimensional as well. They actually have a worse running game than us.

 

[One67]

LSUs offense is 1 dimensional as well. They actually have a worse running game than us.

LSU rush per game 155 yds
UF rush per game 140 yds

 

[ocalaman]

LSU rush per game 155 yds
UF rush per game 140 yds

Based on the link in my original post, UF is ranked 65th in rushing offense, LSU 82nd. That ranking is based on total yards gained rushing the ball. UF has 195 attempts for 895 yards, LSU has 184 attempts for 775 yards. We average 4.3 yards per attempt, LSU 4.2. Both have 12 rushing TD's. UF has played 6 games, LSU 5, thus the difference in yards per game.

 

[instaGATOR]

PHILADELPHIA, Pa. – The Maxwell Football Club today announced the expansion of its 2019 Watch Lists for both the 83rd Maxwell Award and the 25th Chuck Bednarik Award, as Florida's Jonathan Greenard was added to the Bednarik Award Watch List upon his defensive performance thus far on the 2019 season.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019...es-bednarik-award-watch-list-recognition.aspx

PS -- The Gator D sacked the LSU QB 5 times the last time they met....

 

[LizardGrad89]

LSU rush per game 155 yds
UF rush per game 140 yds

Only stat I need:

Vandy is the 110th ranked offense in D1 and scored 38 points on LSU.

 

[instaGATOR]

LSU is the 'other' DB-U and they have a solid secondary.
However, our guys go against the 'real' DB-U every day in practice...

"You've just got to stay on your toes," Jefferson said. "You’ve got to stay ready so you don’t have to get ready. Every guy is ready to step up when his number is called. Just like coach (Billy Gonzales) said, competitive excellence. When your number is called just make the play."

Already this season 7 different Gator players have caught more than 12 passes. Six have eclipsed 160 yards receiving, while 9 different players have caught TD passes.

The spread-the-wealth, take-what's-open mentality has been exactly what the doctor ordered, particularly as new starting QB Kyle Trask's strength (72%) has been quickly going through progressions and getting the ball out fast to the open receiver.

https://247sports.com/college/flori...options-helping-UF-receivers-thrive-136756730

 

[instaGATOR]

Florida gained 399 yards of offense against Auburn’s tremendous defense, easily the most the Tigers have surrendered all season, and chalked up 5.5 yards per play, also a season high.

If Auburn's DT Derrick Brown didn’t exist, Florida likely scores on 2 other red-zone possessions where Brown took the ball away from Kyle Trask. LSU is good up front, but Derrick Brown isn’t walking through the door for Dave Aranda’s defense.

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Edit:
Here are the rankings of the 4 FBS defenses they’ve faced, both in total defense and in yards allowed per play:
Georgia Southern (60th/89th);
Texas (104th/85th);
Vanderbilt (125th/129th);
Utah State (95th/52nd).

 

[One67]

Based on the link in my original post, UF is ranked 65th in rushing offense, LSU 82nd. That ranking is based on total yards gained rushing the ball. UF has 195 attempts for 895 yards, LSU has 184 attempts for 775 yards. We average 4.3 yards per attempt, LSU 4.2. Both have 12 rushing TD's. UF has played 6 games, LSU 5, thus the difference in yards per game.

Per SECsports site
LSU 155 yds rushing per game
UF 140 yds rushing per game

 

[One67]

PHILADELPHIA, Pa. – The Maxwell Football Club today announced the expansion of its 2019 Watch Lists for both the 83rd Maxwell Award and the 25th Chuck Bednarik Award, as Florida's Jonathan Greenard was added to the Bednarik Award Watch List upon his defensive performance thus far on the 2019 season.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019...es-bednarik-award-watch-list-recognition.aspx

PS -- The Gator D sacked the LSU QB 5 times the last time they met....

Joseph and Polite accounted for four of the five. Were they granted one more game of college eligibility? Can we expect them to dress Saturday.

 

[One67]

LSU is the 'other' DB-U and they have a solid secondary.
However, our guys go against the 'real' DB-U every day in practice...

"You've just got to stay on your toes," Jefferson said. "You’ve got to stay ready so you don’t have to get ready. Every guy is ready to step up when his number is called. Just like coach (Billy Gonzales) said, competitive excellence. When your number is called just make the play."

Already this season 7 different Gator players have caught more than 12 passes. Six have eclipsed 160 yards receiving, while 9 different players have caught TD passes.

The spread-the-wealth, take-what's-open mentality has been exactly what the doctor ordered, particularly as new starting QB Kyle Trask's strength (72%) has been quickly going through progressions and getting the ball out fast to the open receiver.

https://247sports.com/college/flori...options-helping-UF-receivers-thrive-136756730

One of the biggest complaints I have heard plenty plenty times from gator fans about Trask is that he HOLDS onto the ball to long. Which leads to sacks.

Now to compare UF WRs to LSU. Tigers have 19 different players with receptions. The bulk have come from the big three though Jefferson, Chase and Marshall.

Tigers have six receivers that avg over 14 yds per catch compared to the gators three.

According to UF gator stats gators have six receivers with "OVER" 12 receptions.

As for DBU. Caught a segment on SEC network the other day. Believe it was Jordan Rogers and DJ Shockley were asked to each pick five DBs from UF and LSU players past and present.

First thee players selected were Patrick Peterson. Tyran Mathieu and Jamal Adams. The third guy on the panel then said something to the effect "looks like you settled the question".

They went on to make their final picks and it was 5-5. Top three were all tigers and four of top six.

 

[One67]

Florida gained 399 yards of offense against Auburn’s tremendous defense, easily the most the Tigers have surrendered all season, and chalked up 5.5 yards per play, also a season high.

If Auburn's DT Derrick Brown didn’t exist, Florida likely scores on 2 other red-zone possessions where Brown took the ball away from Kyle Trask. LSU is good up front, but Derrick Brown isn’t walking through the door for Dave Aranda’s defense.

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Edit:
Here are the rankings of the 4 FBS defenses they’ve faced, both in total defense and in yards allowed per play:
Georgia Southern (60th/89th);
Texas (104th/85th);
Vanderbilt (125th/129th);
Utah State (95th/52nd).

Didn't the gators gain about 150 yards on TWO plays? How many 90 yd TD passes does UF have per game? Season? Decade? Sixty yard runs are pretty rare too I would think.

Tigers front seven will be much better come Saturday. Looks like both starting DEs and starting OLB will be available for action. DEs not expected to start but, should play. Both DEs went out during second game, Texas. Big boost to "D".

 

[PacoGator19]

LSU has the Ogre as a head coach. Everybody knows he’s prone to lose a game or two every year because of his stupidity. There’s no stat for that.

 

[CountyGator2]

Didn't the gators gain about 150 yards on TWO plays? How many 90 yd TD passes does UF have per game? Season? Decade? Sixty yard runs are pretty rare too I would think.

Tigers front seven will be much better come Saturday. Looks like both starting DEs and starting OLB will be available for action. DEs not expected to start but, should play. Both DEs went out during second game, Texas. Big boost to "D".

Gators have been awful rushing the football this year. Our lineman miss assignments frequently. LSU has not been much better and this will be the best rush defense they've seen all year. Trask does hold the ball too long, and that has led to some fumbles. Game will come down to turnovers. If we don't turn it over then we have a great chance to win. As to DBU, Gators do have 2 more in the nfl vs LSU, but as the show stated, actually osu has the most.

 

[ocalaman]

Per SECsports site
LSU 155 yds rushing per game
UF 140 yds rushing per game

Are you arguing with yourself? The link in my OP shows the same thing. And in the post you replied to I showed all the rushing comparisons between the 2 teams. Florida is ranked higher than LSU in rushing because they have more total yards because they have played 1 more game. Can't you read?

 

[GatorNation79]

One of the biggest complaints I have heard plenty plenty times from gator fans about Trask is that he HOLDS onto the ball to long. Which leads to sacks.

Now to compare UF WRs to LSU. Tigers have 19 different players with receptions. The bulk have come from the big three though Jefferson, Chase and Marshall.

Tigers have six receivers that avg over 14 yds per catch compared to the gators three.

According to UF gator stats gators have six receivers with "OVER" 12 receptions.

As for DBU. Caught a segment on SEC network the other day. Believe it was Jordan Rogers and DJ Shockley were asked to each pick five DBs from UF and LSU players past and present.

First thee players selected were Patrick Peterson. Tyran Mathieu and Jamal Adams. The third guy on the panel then said something to the effect "looks like you settled the question".

They went on to make their final picks and it was 5-5. Top three were all tigers and four of top six.

Both teams have had lots of great players come through at DB and Safety pos

 

[One67]

Are you arguing with yourself? The link in my OP shows the same thing. And in the post you replied to I showed all the rushing comparisons between the 2 teams. Florida is ranked higher than LSU in rushing because they have more total yards because they have played 1 more game. Can't you read?

Hey chief, do you follow football much? Yards per game avg is the standard measuring stick, not total yards. Especially when comparing two teams that have not played same amount of games.

Let's say due to some scheduling quirk LSU has already had both byes and only four games played. Tigers have 1,000 yards total rushing. Gators in six games played have 1,100. Who do you think has the better rush game?

 

[One67]

Both teams have had lots of great players come through at DB and Safety pos

TRUE THAT

 

[One67]

LSU has the Ogre as a head coach. Everybody knows he’s prone to lose a game or two every year because of his stupidity. There’s no stat for that.

Maybe so but, this Saturday TIGERS ROLL.

These days EdO is just sitting back and enjoying the show.

 

[instaGATOR]

Didn't the gators gain about 150 yards on TWO plays? How many 90 yd TD passes does UF have per game? Season? Decade? Sixty yard runs are pretty rare too I would think.

Tigers front seven will be much better come Saturday. Looks like both starting DEs and starting OLB will be available for action. DEs not expected to start but, should play. Both DEs went out during second game, Texas. Big boost to "D".

Maybe yoiu should stop skipping over the posts (from above)....

PHILADELPHIA, Pa. – The Maxwell Football Club today announced the expansion of its 2019 Watch Lists for both the 83rd Maxwell Award and the 25th Chuck Bednarik Award, as Florida's Jonathan Greenard was added to the Bednarik Award Watch List upon his defensive performance thus far on the 2019 season.

Greenard is the BUCK (OLB-WDE) that replaced Polite.
And Joseph was replaced by better LB's that play their gaps better, (see the roster).
And SDE Zuniga will be back this week after being held out vs Auburn.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019...es-bednarik-award-watch-list-recognition.aspx