Back on topic whippersnapper. We are talking about jill bidens wife, captain sobel in this thread. When should impeachment begin?
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Back on topic whippersnapper. We are talking about jill bidens wife, captain sobel in this thread. When should impeachment begin?
No, we're calling you a liar when you lie.
That's because you're lying. Your goal is to try to paint Trump's actions as being the same as Hiden's and obama's.
That's a lie.
But you think by doing this, you can play the 'both sides do it, I am willing to call BOTH sides out!' card.
You are lying. We are not. That's why it is apples to oranges.
Trump didn't have bad intel. His intel was proven to be correct. See now you are just lying on top of lying.
See how the game is played?
Dems do something wrong.
@kalimgoodman lies and says repubs did something wrong as well.
@kalimgoodman claims both sides are wrong AND that he has the high ground because he can 'admit' that, where we cannot.
This is why you don't try to reason with liars. You honestly get what you deserve if you do.
Holy shit your ignorance is breathtaking. Obama put in documentation calling Rosen a criminal… Trump saying assholes should be locked up is not the same thing. YOU again leap to the defense of Democrats trying to equate everything. You are not a serious person.
As expected, you defend. Trump will always do it differently, so it's not bad in your eyes. I love how you ignored the using bad intel
Back on topic. This isn’t about trump. The only one that can currently be impeached is Biden. Should he be? Stop with your TDS
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WTF are you even talking about? LOL the only defender here is your typical attempt to conflate everything Trump to being worse or in this case as bad as Democrats. And you’re the last person that needs to comment on “ignoring” topics LOL. I love how you tried to equate a stump speech statement with legal government documents accusing someone of a crime.
You refuse to get into the details of the discussion and talk about the differences in “spying” because then you have to come to terms with these cases not being the same. Getting communications records from a communications provider and tapping phones and monitoring emails are different animals. You’d know that if you were honest but too many times we’ve seen you push Democrat lies on here.
What is funny us he equates this stuff with getting phone records of a guy banging a chinese spy. You cannot make up how stupid this is.
I think it's awesome that he ignored your lie. Wish more posters here did.
And this thread isn't about Trump, it's about Hiden spying on Americans. It's disgusting and sickening, and typical of the democratic party.
Just like it's typical of you to lie about what happened.
Plus, the motive:
obama spied on Trump cause he wanted to find dirt on him. IOW, he had no reason to spy on him.
Trump had good intel that showed that two democrats were leaking classified intel to our enemies. And even then, Trump followed the law, he didn't spy.
Trump is a hero, obama is an embarrassment to us all.
You are all over the place. I never mention that. They got phone records from a lot of people, it wasn't just him. Why are you making it seem that way?
Oh the irony. Too funny. There is literally one poster ITT, hell, in every thread you’re in, that’s all over the place. And EVERYONE knows who that is.
Good to know it’s time to impeach sobel. No more insight needed from you ITT. If you want to start another thread, about Trump then go ahead. Maybe start with a list of the communist traitors that phone records were obtained.
There are many ways to spy on someone, just like there are many ways to commit murder but it's still murder, like it's still spying but when you start saying this type is good and this type is bad, you water down the severity of it.
It wasn't a stump speech, he said it in the white house. Next excuse...
Thank you. You do such a great job of proving my point every time we get into these topics. You keep saying “spy” to make it an all encompassing thing in order to equate Trump with known illegal activities performed by Obama and now alleged by Biden. If Trump committed any illegal spying he would have been impeached for it, you know how I know? Because your party would have passed out from joy if they had an actual illegal activity to hang around his neck for an impeachment. Your desire to equate illegal vs legal is pretty amusing but really just pathetic. Yes there are varying levels of illegal activities but you can’t find it in these cases so you have to pretend they’re all the same thing.
LOL he said it in the White House… LOL but he didn’t fill out any court documentation? Amazingly proving my point again. Saying someone should be jailed and filling out court documentation are not the same.
Of course you did. You lied and said Trump did the same thing, so both are wrong, let's move on.
Lie on top of lie.
So we can believe Tucker, who has never lied to us, or we can believe Hiden's administration and @kalimgoodman. Boy this will be a toughie!
PS: Did we notice they set the tweet so no one can comment? Tick tock...
PS: Did we notice they set the tweet so no one can comment? Tick tock...
I'm assuming that he meant that Trump was mean to them on Twitter...which is exactly the same thing as sicking the IRS or NSA on them...right?
Come on bud, this is about as useless as it gets. Why would the NSA come out and refute any allegation against Tucker in an on going investigation?
That tweet is to save face
That's the beauty of Carlson. Once he said it, it's true. There is nothing anyone can do to disprove it and Carlson doesn't have to provide evidence that it's true. Just say it. Carlson definitely I'd smart.
Carlson is free to say what he wants but our government lies to the people daily Kalim. It doesn’t matter who’s in charge, until proof is supplied by Carlson or the NSA, I won’t trust either.
A tweet on social media or a public statement doesn’t make it true or false.
However, it is not uncommon for political public figures to be spied on. It’s happened to Dan Bongino and Sean Hannity with proof. Whether it is legal or illegal is a different story.
I disagree Biden is not calling the shots right now so replacing him won't make any difference. We need to replace the whole bunch.
In regards to lying, so does Carlson but he'll never provide proof and people will believe him. That's just how the new America is. Evidence is not needed to make a "factual" claim.
And that is the issue with journalism and why they are not to be trusted. If their sole creation was to keep the government honest and they fail at that, why would anyone trust them?
Your last sentence is why this government will fail
I've realized we are all "effed" for a long time now. I have this faint hope in the next election but the Demonrats have a lot of money power and corruption so I have my doubts.
You're telling on yourself. Tucker has your goat big time, which proves you are a dem.
Tucker, unlike you, has a stellar reputation. Also unlike you, he's never been busted spreading falsehoods.
You should be more like Tucker, and less like you.
The opinion journalists are not about keeping the government honesty. It's about ratings, money, and notoriety.
The government has already failed.
Oh man…the entertainment value of seeing this Board have to deal with President Kamala…that would be the greatest thing in silly sports message board history…
There was even language saying they make exceptions to look at domestic people. That was as close to an admittance as you’ll get without outright saying we did it. How is anyone fooled by that statement? (rhetorical)
Funniest part is, this is the same NSA that WAS busted spying on Pres Trump.
And they were busted by the head of the NSA at the time, Admiral Mike Rogers.
But @kalimgoodman believes the NSA, and doesn't believe Tucker.
I'm having a hard time remembering the instances of Tucker being outed as a liar. I can remember plenty of times when he told the truth about dems and made them mad like @kalimgoodman is here.
I just googled Tucker Carlson list of lies. Went to page 2 and got nothing. As often as we see that accusation I assumed someone would have captured all these lies to expose this media tyrant. I welcome all Democrat operatives here to please provide me two examples of lies he’s told in the past, lies not things he was just wrong about but actual lies he told. That means intent. We won’t even worry about the NSA thing because I believe the onus is still on him to provide something more than a whistleblower and I’d expect the NSA to help their own reputation with the public instead of the garbage they just released. This is going to turn into a pissing contest but the only loser in that case will be the NSA because they owe taxpayers the truth.
Yea but then Kamala would still be president...after you stopped laughing I mean. That would be less entertaining.
And ftr, I believe that this will happen before the next election. I predicted it prior to the last election. We'll see.
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