To the "Desantis is establishment" people...

[instaGATOR]

JMOHO, but I'm thinking that a Trump/DeSantis ticket would be pretty close to unbeatable in 2024, at least without yet another Rat controlled STOLEN election outcome.... 🤓

That would give 'The Donald' his 2nd term (giving him a 2nd chance to fire the right people this time around), and it would set Ron up nicely for a likely winning 2028 Presidential run.

Don could replace the Border-Ho with Ron and the border would be secure in short order imo....

 

[kalimgoodman]

Trump and DeSantis trigger the leftist

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Biden, Kamala and Pete trigger the right. It's apart of the game

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

"The idea that the 2020 and 2022 elections across American were clean, accurate and without fault took another broadside this week when a poll confirmed that Republican Kari Lake got 51% of the vote for governor in Arizona, while Democrat Katie Hobbs got 43%.
Only Hobbs was installed as governor in an election result that still includes many unanswered questions."

@goldmom

 

[goldmom]

"The idea that the 2020 and 2022 elections across American were clean, accurate and without fault took another broadside this week when a poll confirmed that Republican Kari Lake got 51% of the vote for governor in Arizona, while Democrat Katie Hobbs got 43%.
Only Hobbs was installed as governor in an election result that still includes many unanswered questions."

@goldmom

A “poll” taken - such great news!
Not an official vote tally of valid ballots.
Polls are very often taken among a targeted demographic and the questions framed to elicit a hoped for response and outcome.
Be smarter.

 

[gatordad3]

Triggered?

 

[gatordad3]

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Triggered?

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Reminds me of this...

 

[Gator Fever]

A “poll” taken - such great news!
Not an official vote tally of valid ballots.
Polls are very often taken among a targeted demographic and the questions framed to elicit a hoped for response and outcome.
Be smarter.

Let me guess you are voting for mini- me Ron Desantis ...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

"The idea that the 2020 and 2022 elections across American were clean, accurate and without fault took another broadside this week when a poll confirmed that Republican Kari Lake got 51% of the vote for governor in Arizona, while Democrat Katie Hobbs got 43%.
Only Hobbs was installed as governor in an election result that still includes many unanswered questions."

@goldmom

Exit polls this long after the election really aren't exit polls IMO.

I totally agree with the premise that the 2022 AZ election was rigged, any poster here that can put aside their hate of Trump can admit that.

Apparently Hobbs has given Runbeck control of election integrity in AZ. So it looks like 'just move on' just cost DeSantis any chance of winning AZ. This is why we asked posters like @goldmom to please consider that election integrity was more important than stopping a 2nd Trump term in 2020.

 

[goldmom]

Let me guess you are voting for mini- me Ron Desantis ...

I hope the Governor is the nominee so that I can cast my vote for him.
And I hope the Previous President continues to enjoy his retirement.

 

[BSC911]

Interesting article. Not sure where to put this.

Why are Californians moving to Florida? Affordability is a big reason, 'wokeness' probably not — Los Angeles Times

In his feud with California, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis claims the Golden State is losing residents because of its leftist ways. Indications suggest otherwise.

apple.news

 

[Gator Fever]

Interesting article. Not sure where to put this.

Why are Californians moving to Florida? Affordability is a big reason, 'wokeness' probably not — Los Angeles Times

In his feud with California, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis claims the Golden State is losing residents because of its leftist ways. Indications suggest otherwise.

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Surprised even that amount moved to FL from CA. Its mostly NE people moving here on the east coast and I think the west coast gets that and quite a few from the upper midwest states.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Interesting article. Not sure where to put this.

Why are Californians moving to Florida? Affordability is a big reason, 'wokeness' probably not — Los Angeles Times

In his feud with California, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis claims the Golden State is losing residents because of its leftist ways. Indications suggest otherwise.

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Lack of wokeness = more affordability.

Silly article imho. But now I've typed woke and kalim is going to lose his sh1t...thanks bsc.

 

[BSC911]

Surprised even that amount moved to FL from CA. Its mostly NE people moving here on the east coast and I think the west coast gets that and quite a few from the upper midwest states.

Agreed based on my experiences. But DeSantis seems to be making a big deal about the few who do.

 

[goldmom]

Agreed based on my experiences. But DeSantis seems to be making a big deal about the few who do.

I wish they’d stop in Texas and stay there.

 

[BSC911]

I wish they’d stop in Texas and stay there.

Texans are very welcoming, as you know. Plus we need the workers.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I saw a short Trump clip where he is saying that Florida was doing fine without DeSantis..was fine under Charlie Crist and so forth. Then he goes on to take credit for DeSantis ( implying that there something to take credit for ), even though he said DeSantis wasnt any big deal. Sounded real weak and pathetic. Didnt sound like a guy well on his way to victory.

I LOVE Trump..but he is full of chit here. THIS will get him defeated if he keeps this garbage up. Biden and the commies are America's enemies...not DeSantis.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Yeah that will be DeSantis weakness...Trump in the race.

Where I disagree with you, and DeSantis is no dummy, is that if Trump keeps attacking DeSantis, I think Ron will actually beat him. Not what I want, but DeSantis has an INCREDIBLE record to run on. If Trump smartens up, and sticks to HIS accomplishments, and how much better things were under his administration, he has a very good chance. DeSantis is VERY, VERY good candidate. I really wish they would team up with Trump in charge, and DeSantis taking the reign's in 2028-2036

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Where I disagree with you, and DeSantis is no dummy, is that if Trump keeps attacking DeSantis, I think Ron will actually beat him. Not what I want, but DeSantis has an INCREDIBLE record to run on. If Trump smartens up, and sticks to HIS accomplishments, and how much better things were under his administration, he has a very good chance. DeSantis is VERY, VERY good candidate. I really wish they would team up with Trump in charge, and DeSantis taking the reign's in 2028-2036

This is why arresting Trump only helps Trump. It galvanizes support for him, it gives Trump a windmill to charge, and if he IS arrested, the media will go "Hey Gov DeSantis, what do you think about Trump being arrested?"

What can Ron say? He HAS to say it's an outrage and defend Trump. If he doesn't, it kills his chances in 2024, and if he does, it only makes Trump look better.

This will end up with Trump's own republican opponents being forced to say he is right, that this is a witchhunt. This will turn his opponents on the right into campaigners for him.

I swear I sometimes think the dems are really on Trump's payroll. He plays them perfectly every single time.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

This will end up with Trump's own republican opponents being forced to say he is right, that this is a witchhunt. This will turn his opponents on the right into campaigners for him.

This IMHO is where your calculus is flawed. I will rally behind him on these witch hunts. But it doesn't translate in me voting for him in the primary.

 

[jsfgators]

This is why arresting Trump only helps Trump. It galvanizes support for him, it gives Trump a windmill to charge, and if he IS arrested, the media will go "Hey Gov DeSantis, what do you think about Trump being arrested?"

What can Ron say? He HAS to say it's an outrage and defend Trump. If he doesn't, it kills his chances in 2024, and if he does, it only makes Trump look better.

This will end up with Trump's own republican opponents being forced to say he is right, that this is a witchhunt. This will turn his opponents on the right into campaigners for him.

I swear I sometimes think the dems are really on Trump's payroll. He plays them perfectly every single time.

DeSantis shouldnt be conflicted about this. He should stand up for Trump, call it a witch hunt, and then be the first to run on pardoning trump

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This IMHO is where your calculus is flawed. I will rally behind him on these witch hunts. But it doesn't translate in me voting for him in the primary.

You've already made your mind up. Some pubs have not. For them, this will sway many of them to vote for Trump.

Ideally, Trump should let them jail him. Go through the whole mugshot deal, hair wild all over his head. I get it would be a blow to his ego and he doesn't want to give the deep state the satisfaction, but if they jail Trump, his mugshot will be shown on CNN/MSNBC even Fox 24/7. The MSM will have a media orgasm for weeks over it.

All that will do is drive home the point that this is BS and something needs to be done to stop the dems.

Sadly, none of this gets fixed without people getting off their porch.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

DeSantis shouldnt be conflicted about this. He should stand up for Trump, call it a witch hunt, and then be the first to run on pardoning trump

He will...he is smart

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

DeSantis shouldnt be conflicted about this. He should stand up for Trump, call it a witch hunt, and then be the first to run on pardoning trump

That's actually very smart. DeSantis could even say it's ridiculous, I call on President* Hiden to immediately pardon Trump, we can't go after our political enemies, etc etc. That would actually take some of the potential boost to Trump from this, and put it on hate for Hiden.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I have NO PROBLEM with a Trump 1st voter. I am thankful for his presidency. I will support him again if he is the nominee. I will try to convince you that RDS is better, and that you should vote for him instead. HOWEVER, I do have a SERIOUS PROBLEM with a clown....a moron....a DUMBASS who says that they wouldnt support RDS in a general because you didnt get your guy in the primary. Serious retards among us

EXACTLY.....cutting your nose off to spite your face is not very bright.

 

[BamaFan1137]

That's actually very smart. DeSantis could even say it's ridiculous, I call on President* Hiden to immediately pardon Trump, we can't go after our political enemies, etc etc. That would actually take some of the potential boost to Trump from this, and put it on hate for Hiden.

Agree, that seems to be the right play.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

You've already made your mind up. Some pubs have not. For them, this will sway many of them to vote for Trump.

Ideally, Trump should let them jail him. Go through the whole mugshot deal, hair wild all over his head. I get it would be a blow to his ego and he doesn't want to give the deep state the satisfaction, but if they jail Trump, his mugshot will be shown on CNN/MSNBC even Fox 24/7. The MSM will have a media orgasm for weeks over it.

All that will do is drive home the point that this is BS and something needs to be done to stop the dems.

Sadly, none of this gets fixed without people getting off their porch.

Conviction might and IMHO will drive away the Trump voting indies. Sadly they are sheep. Too many people still get their news AND opinion from national media.

Look at gay marriage...roundly rejected in 30+ states...after SCOTUS and the media campaign now accepted by most.

I will vote the Donald in the general if he gets the nom.

 

[EvilWayz]

If I was someone with a misdemeanor weed conviction I would be stupid annoyed if a president wasted a pardon on this. A misdemeanor is nothing. Hell Dubya had a misdemeanor DUI and we elected him president twice.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Conviction might and IMHO will drive away the Trump voting indies. Sadly they are sheep. Too many people still get their news AND opinion from national media.

Look at gay marriage...roundly rejected in 30+ states...after SCOTUS and the media campaign now accepted by most.

I will vote the Donald in the general if he gets the nom.

I'll buy that, some fence-sitters will be blown off by the arrest and not vote for Trump.

At the end of the day, I think Trump being arrested will be a boon to his support. What will be interesting is to watch how he reacts, and how DeSantis reacts to his moves.

I think the smart play for Trump is to keep hammering "They are coming for me because I stand between them and you. You are the real target!" And I thnk DeSantis would be smart to focus on how this proves HIDEN is the bad guy moreso than how this proves it's a witchhunt to get Trump.

Moves and countermoves.

 

[Gator Fever]

I'll buy that, some fence-sitters will be blown off by the arrest and not vote for Trump.

At the end of the day, I think Trump being arrested will be a boon to his support. What will be interesting is to watch how he reacts, and how DeSantis reacts to his moves.

I think the smart play for Trump is to keep hammering "They are coming for me because I stand between them and you. You are the real target!" And I thnk DeSantis would be smart to focus on how this proves HIDEN is the bad guy moreso than how this proves it's a witchhunt to get Trump.

Moves and countermoves.

DeSantis is probably 100% finished as far as having any chance in the primary if they arrest Trump. Even if they back off and don't arrest Trump all the reaction to this possible arrest and having pinned the Bush/Romney label on DeSantis has probably ended any real chance he had to win. I look for him to drop to 20% nationally soon as he will be getting no base vote at all hardly. Ken Griffin and his fellow billionaires have a decision to make on that 100 million dollar PAC setup they already have. Wouldn't be shocked if they decide to sit on most of it until the general election to oppose Trump there.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

DeSantis is probably 100% finished as far as having any chance in the primary if they arrest Trump.

You are the only person in America that would blame DeSantis for Trump being arrested. Trump being arrested by itself will have almost no affect on DeSantis.

 

[Gator Fever]

You are the only person in America that would blame DeSantis for Trump being arrested. Trump being arrested by itself will have almost no affect on DeSantis.

You are nuts if you think it won't prop Trump up in the polls and drop DeSantis. Not blaming him for it though he probably would like to see it hoping somehow Trump could be eliminated. DeSantis is close to being dead in the water anyway without a Trump arrest.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You are nuts if you think it won't prop Trump up in the polls and drop DeSantis.

Way too early to say how it will go. What if DeSantis is smart enough to come out and agree with Trump that this is BS, and says he will refuse to extradite him to NY if the DA pushes for that?

You do understand that DeSantis could actually BENEFIT from this, if handled correctly, right?

 

[Gator Fever]

Way too early to say how it will go. What if DeSantis is smart enough to come out and agree with Trump that this is BS, and says he will refuse to extradite him to NY if the DA pushes for that?

You do understand that DeSantis could actually BENEFIT from this, if handled correctly, right?

You keep acting like DeSantis is MAGA when he is a uni-party globalist. He would never say anything such as that imo. They probably have Karl Rove drafting a statement right now in case Trump is arrested. It will just be the standard mess about weaponized prosecutors most likely to leave an out for DeSantis to come out later in the primary and say Trump needs to step down for the good of the party because he is under criminal indictments.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You keep acting like DeSantis is MAGA when he is a uni-party globalist.

By keeping an open mind and waiting to see what actually happens?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You keep acting like DeSantis is MAGA when he is a uni-party globalist. He would never say anything such as that imo. They probably have Karl Rove drafting a statement right now in case Trump is arrested. It will just be the standard mess about weaponized prosecutors most likely to leave an out for DeSantis to come out later in the primary and say Trump needs to step down for the good of the party because he is under criminal indictments.

I am not sold on this yet. I just do not see ANY reason for him to do so. THEY need him, more than he needs them. Does not pass the smell test to me. HOWEVER, I will keep a sharp eye on this, and PRAY he does not choose that path. (JIC he wins the nomination) (however I would STILL vote for him over a communist)

 

[Gator Fever]