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If you're southern, you owe some klans a debt of gratitude.

The only reason carpet baggers didn't pilfer off the rest of what was left of value in the South was because of groups like the Klan. We didn't have cops then. They were basically law enforcement of their day. They were an armed insurgency group against a hostile foreign occupation. And plundering was allowed.

They died out after the end of reconstruction.

The klans of the 20th century range from silly to sinister. But it is documented, of the men who planted the bomb, one of them was an FBI informant. They were recruited and often extorted into turning on their brothers. Very honorable. And irresponsible of the FBI because they were always prodding them to do something illegal as a pretext for arresting and civil suits.

The fortune cookie version of history is enforced today.

Comparing revolutionary war publications of the era, the Southern theater and it's battles were very prominent. Yet after the war the Southern contribution is ignored. Erased.

Lincoln was the POTUS our founders feared.

The War’s over dude. Time to face facts. You lost.
 
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I part company with anyone who considers the Klan to be a praiseworthy organization.
The Klan isn't and never was "an organization." There have been thousands of Klans. They're not identical, at all.

In my home area the Klan type group was the blue-bills. They had been Union Soldiers during the war, but opposed the carpet baggers.

The south was plubdered after the war. Klan type groups stopped it.

You're an idiot if you think they were all bad. In fact, I'd say the original version was the good guys.

But that's just my opinion. But they weren't what you've been told they are.

Idk if you're white or black, it doesn't matter.

The Klan was always there to go after people who were violent and caused problems. There is an abundance of contemporary source material, from black Americans in the South at this time, who worked with the Klan to keep their community safe.

Anyone who was abusing their wife, and things like this, got a visit. If it didn't stop, there was another visit, and never a third.

You've got to stop believing everything you see on TV.
 
The War’s over dude. Time to face facts. You lost.
There was no winner in our civil war, except the Hamiltonians.

Our republic died in the hands of the Radical Republicans of 1865.

The 14th amendment only became ratified because they voted the people who didn't agree out of Congress to obtain a majority.

It ended our republic. The states are now just administrative divisions of the federal gov, with no power.
 
The Klan isn't and never was "an organization." There have been thousands of Klans. They're not identical, at all.

In my home area the Klan type group was the blue-bills. They had been Union Soldiers during the war, but opposed the carpet baggers.

The south was plubdered after the war. Klan type groups stopped it.

You're an idiot if you think they were all bad. In fact, I'd say the original version was the good guys.

But that's just my opinion. But they weren't what you've been told they are.

Idk if you're white or black, it doesn't matter.

The Klan was always there to go after people who were violent and caused problems. There is an abundance of contemporary source material, from black Americans in the South at this time, who worked with the Klan to keep their community safe.

Anyone who was abusing their wife, and things like this, got a visit. If it didn't stop, there was another visit, and never a third.

You've got to stop believing everything you see on TV.
Yeah I'm sure the Klan isn't all that bad.:rolleyes:
They sure know how to party.
 
Yeah I'm sure the Klan isn't all that bad.:rolleyes:
They sure know how to party.
You'll have to explain to me why it's bad for a native population to band together to resist a hostile, foreign occupation.

Because that's what the Klan was.

And it went away when the circumstances that required its presence went away.

Then Woodrow Wilson watched a movie.

The problem in America today, is for 50 years or so we have collectively pretended like the worst examples were commonplace. There is a reason Emmett Till is still draged from his grave every few months and goes on tour. If it was as bad as we've been led to believe, they would have more people than Emmet Till to parade around as ultimate victim.
 
Because that's what the Klan was.

And it went away when the circumstances that required its presence went away.

Then Woodrow Wilson watched a movie.

The problem in America today, is for 50 years or so we have collectively pretended like the worst examples were commonplace. There is a reason Emmett Till is still draged from his grave every few months and goes on tour. If it was as bad as we've been led to believe, they would have more people than Emmet Till to parade around as ultimate victim.

The problem for your spin is that most of us either lived in the South in the 60s and 70s, or our parents did. We know what happened because we were there as it was happening.

Not sure what your aim here is, but you're now on Ignore.
 
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The problem for your spin is that most of us either lived in the South in the 60s and 70s, or our parents did. We know what happened because we were there as it was happening.

Not sure what your aim here is, but you're now on Ignore.
That isn't inconsistent wirh anything I said.

As I said, after the original incarnation of the Klan, they ranged from silly to sinister.

But what you're talking about that happened, much, if not all of it was carried out by agents. provocateur.

If you go back to the 50 and 60s.... The most respected members of our society were in the Klan. Sen. Robert Byrd, for instance.

They opposed the civil Rights initiatives, as did most people in the states where more enforcement was sought.

The Klan organizations were infiltrated and subverted. They were encouraged to do dumb, violent and horrible things.

My goal here? I don't really have one. We all know the victors write the history. I prefer the truth.

I'd rather my neighbor was a klansman than a Democrat. That's for sure.
 
That isn't inconsistent wirh anything I said.

As I said, after the original incarnation of the Klan, they ranged from silly to sinister.

But what you're talking about that happened, much, if not all of it was carried out by agents. provocateur.

If you go back to the 50 and 60s.... The most respected members of our society were in the Klan. Sen. Robert Byrd, for instance.

They opposed the civil Rights initiatives, as did most people in the states where more enforcement was sought.

The Klan organizations were infiltrated and subverted. They were encouraged to do dumb, violent and horrible things.

My goal here? I don't really have one. We all know the victors write the history. I prefer the truth.

I'd rather my neighbor was a klansman than a Democrat. That's for sure.

Nobody bombs a church because they were “encouraged.”

Thankfully people like you are dying off. Although it seems that people like you and your ilk have resurfaced and united under Trump. It won’t last.

God Bless America.
 
Nobody bombs a church because they were “encouraged.”

Thankfully people like you are dying off. Although it seems that people like you and your ilk have resurfaced and united under Trump. It won’t last.

God Bless America.

All hate originates on the left, and is amplified there.
 
Nobody bombs a church because they were “encouraged.”

Thankfully people like you are dying off. Although it seems that people like you and your ilk have resurfaced and united under Trump. It won’t last.

God Bless America.
I can't stand Trump. He's nothing but a blow hard who doesn't mean a word he's said.

I'm a Sanders voter, ffs.

And yeah, when 120+ IQ FBI agents get their hooks into the 95 IQ good ole boy, they can and have made this stuff happen.

They do it all the time..

Google "co-intel pro"

They did this with borderline restarted Arab Americans in the early 00s. Encouraging them to act out to protect Allah.
 
I'm a right wing Socialist. In the model of a Henry Ford perhaps, or Huey Long.
I'm a left wing capitalist, in the model of Warren Buffet. So guess were on opposite sides.

I think Hitler was also a right wing socialist.
 
I'm a left wing capitalist, in the model of Warren Buffet. So guess were on opposite sides.

I think Hitler was also a right wing socialist.
Absolutely he was.

So was Charles Lindbergh, true American hero, who tried to keep us from the most destructive brother war in the history of the world.

You capitalists got us into that mess.
 
Absolutely he was.

So was Charles Lindbergh, true American hero, who tried to keep us from the most destructive brother war in the history of the world.

You capitalists got us into that mess.

KKK and Hitler, eh? That tells me all I need to know
 
KKK and Hitler, eh? That tells me all I need to know
Really? What does that tell you?

Because the KKK was instrumental in pushing the US towards war with Germany in WWII.

* My point being that you can accuse someone of being one or the other, but Nazis and Klan types don't like each other.

The modern version of the Klan are these 3% groups. They've abandoned the open racial prejudice, at least in public, and they call themselves things like "oath keepers" or "Civic Nationalist." I'm not saying they're like the Klan, but they're the people who would have been two generations ago. They seem to believe what they say, mostly. But most of it is just a cope. They're a defeated people who play within the lines the political left establishes for them.

Today's Nazis still go by the name. They don't hide it. They may call themselves "wignat" because it's a new term. Wig is short for the W version of the N word.
They will also use variations on traditional workers parties. And or Catholic/Orthodox traditionalism.

These two groups of people hate each other.

The alt right was a movement to unite these two factions, and it was beginning to happen, and then a huge amount of infighting began over the fact that Trump became an obvious fraud to one group, and to the other a sort of Devine being.
 
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I'm a left wing capitalist, in the model of Warren Buffet. So guess were on opposite sides.

I think Hitler was also a right wing socialist.

Buffet is the guy that says he wants the government to tax rich people like him, and yet he could write a check to the government at any time, and never does. Sheep like @BSC911 lap it up.

Both of you want to take other people's money from them. Only difference is Buffet could afford to give his own, you can't.
 
Really? What does that tell you?

Because the KKK was instrumental in pushing the US towards war with Germany in WWII.

* My point being that you can accuse someone of being one or the other, but Nazis and Klan types don't like each other.

The modern version of the Klan are these 3% groups. They've abandoned the open racial prejudice, at least in public, and they call themselves things like "oath keepers" or "Civic Nationalist." I'm not saying they're like the Klan, but they're the people who would have been two generations ago. They seem to believe what they say, mostly. But most of it is just a cope. They're a defeated people who play within the lines the political left establishes for them.

Today's Nazis still go by the name. They don't hide it. They may call themselves "wignat" because it's a new term. Wig is short for the W version of the N word.
They will also use variations on traditional workers parties. And or Catholic/Orthodox traditionalism.

These two groups of people hate each other.

The alt right was a movement to unite these two factions, and it was beginning to happen, and then a huge amount of infighting began over the fact that Trump became an obvious fraud to one group, and to the other a sort of Devine being.
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Who has the alt right killed?

Heather Heyer was 300 plus pounds and had a heart attack. James Fields got railroaded. Some sick guy near me just beat his 6 month on son to death and got a fraction of Field's sentence.

I'd rather have those guys living next to me than any democrat.

Do you mean corporatist elected dems like Pelosi and Schumer? Or just like some regular American, CNN-watching, votes-every-four-years type dem?

If either, that's ef'ed man. Killers and attempted killers not good people no matter how you shake it.
 
White people are not "native" to the Americas. Colonizers yes, natives no.
White people are native/indigenous to N America for two reasons.

We defeated and vanquished the only other competitor.

And clovis, which means Europeans were likely in N America first.
 
All of us can be traced back to dark skinned modern humans in southeastern Africa. I believe all of you to be a bit further removed than I. None of us are native to the Americas.
That isn't true necessarily.

Neanderthal doesn't fit into that nor do the Dinisovians. And we're discovering more and more all the time that really challenges the "out of Africa" theory.

Don't get sidetracked with arguments based on genetics. We don't know near enough about genetics to say. We're good at identifying genes, not determining qualitative information about them.

In other words, you can take a brilliant man and a dumb man and no one can tell you, based on the genetics, why one is smart and one is dumb.

I take it you're one of my black brothers?
If you descend from the former slaves in the US, you are indigenous here, just like my white butt is.
 
I'm a tri-racial isolate of the Melungeon group. I'm Congolese-Cherokee-Caucasian. My DNA analysis was done at Genelex Labs in Seattle in 2008 and 23andme in Dec., 2018.

I am of Neanderthal descent.
 
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I'm a tri-racial isolate of the Melungeon group. I'm Congolese-Cherokee-Caucasian. My DNA analysis was done at Genelex Labs in Seattle in 2008 and 23andme in Dec., 2018.

I am of Neanderthal descent.

Speaking of 23andMe, @bradleygator has begun researching information discussed here, and I want to encourage that.

Bradley, research the founders of Google and 23andMe, as well as the current CEO of YouTube. You will discover some interestingly curious connections.
 
White people are native/indigenous to N America for two reasons.

We defeated and vanquished the only other competitor.

And clovis, which means Europeans were likely in N America first.

No evidence Clovis civ was euro-peeps, where you getting that?

Also, if this is your reasoning, then the North "defeated and vanquished" their opponents: the rebels who thought Lincoln wasn't serious or a strong enough leader to defeat them.

The south was wrong.
 
No evidence Clovis civ was euro-peeps, where you getting that?

Also, if this is your reasoning, then the North "defeated and vanquished" their opponents: the rebels who thought Lincoln wasn't serious or a strong enough leader to defeat them.

The south was wrong.

They fought the North over states' rights. Again, the North only decided to push to end slavery when they discovered that it was a potential economic boon to the South that the North couldn't leverage as well. There was no moral outrage, it was all about the North wanting to keep the power in the country and they saw that the South was an emerging economic powerhouse.
 
They fought the North over states' rights. Again, the North only decided to push to end slavery when they discovered that it was a potential economic boon to the South that the North couldn't leverage as well. There was no moral outrage, it was all about the North wanting to keep the power in the country and they saw that the South was an emerging economic powerhouse.

Matchless, your revisionist history isn't going to work with educated folks.
 
Matchless, your revisionist history isn't going to work with educated folks.

"History is written by the victors" - Winston Churchill

Want an eye-opening experience? Find the oldest world and US history textbooks that you can. Ones from at least the 70s are preferable.

Then find some from the 80s. Then the 90s, then the 00s, then today.

Note how the explanation and 'framing' of major wars such as The Civil War, World War 1 and 2, changes dramatically.

Being educated doesn't count for much if you were taught from bad, biased material.
 
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No evidence Clovis civ was euro-peeps, where you getting that?

Also, if this is your reasoning, then the North "defeated and vanquished" their opponents: the rebels who thought Lincoln wasn't serious or a strong enough leader to defeat them.

The south was wrong.
The Clovis points only have one counterpart in the would, Solutrians in SW Europe.

They could have easily followed the ice shelf to north America.

And yeah, the Confederacy doesn't exist anymore, incase you didn't know.
 
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