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The Many Ways in Which COVID Vaccines May Harm Your Health

Attacking the source and not the subject matter...

Liberalism 101, executed flawlessly. Well done.
There is too much stupid in many of these posts for me to even begin. Plus the doctors ITT hardly need my support.

Edit. Says the guy who bashes the “MSM.” How ironic.
 
I know board certified doctors who are adamantly against the vaccine. I know board certified doctors who are adamantly for the vaccine. The problem is that this has become a political issue more than a medical one and people are extremely leery of the government forcing anything on them. Americans have always been contrarian to forced governmental edicts.

The worst thing anybody did on either side of this issue was to suggest it should be mandated since that turned it into a political issue and the actual facts regarding the vaccine get lost in the crossfire.

My parents, who are in their 70s are vaccinated. They had some side effects, but minimal. Probably a good move for them given their age and susceptibility to negative side effects of Covid. My kids are very healthy and probably don't need the vaccine since we really don't have any way to know long term health risks and the fact that Covid, especially the newest varieties, have very minor health risks to young health people. This is not a one-size-fits-all issue.

That is why this should be an individual issue decided between an informed patient and their doctor. Get the government out of the picture and you will probably see better discussions and choices by all.
 
Of course there are potential side effects that are “real.” But the degree they are blown out of proportion is my point. Not one of the thousands of prescriptions I’ve written for statins has resulted in death or permanent disability. Scientific studies have proven the benefit of statins yet people still refuse them if they listen to a few quacks on the internet.
That is what is happening with the Covid vaccines. Some prefer to listen to the fringe rather than the science.
I can’t tolerate statins. Some are worse, Simvastatin was extremely problematic for me.

My current doc checks my cholesterol multiple times per year. She doesn’t recommend I take statins.

But I know three people in my personal sphere - one is almost for sure from the booster, he’s been at UVA for nearly 3 months - that are likely vaccine injured. And I don’t know that many people.

The problem is we’ve changed the bar on what’s acceptable. The smallpox vaccine was pulled after 68 potential deaths.
 
I wish no harm on anyone who has taken these vaccines, but I am absolutely worried about the long-term impact to their heath if they did.

I think people are going to be very shocked when we see the health issues this trash vaccine has caused 10 years down the road not to even count the people its already messed up. I think its going to have long term effects on people's immune system. People should have known something was up when these crooked companies insisted they be immune from lawsuits on it down the road.
 
What's really funny to me is the folks who trashed the media for making Covid "sound worse than it is" and "trying to scare people"...........are doing the exact same thing with the vaccine.....and with much less evidence in their favor.
 
Of course there are potential side effects that are “real.” But the degree they are blown out of proportion is my point. Not one of the thousands of prescriptions I’ve written for statins has resulted in death or permanent disability. Scientific studies have proven the benefit of statins yet people still refuse them if they listen to a few quacks on the internet.
That is what is happening with the Covid vaccines. Some prefer to listen to the fringe rather than the science.
Wow this aged well.
 
Attacking the source and not the subject matter...

Liberalism 101, executed flawlessly. Well done.
Of course. We can't have any FACTS here that could destroy their carefully-crafted propaganda!

Fascism 101. And the sheep think fascism is an alt-right construct LOL
 
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What's really funny to me is the folks who trashed the media for making Covid "sound worse than it is" and "trying to scare people"...........are doing the exact same thing with the vaccine.....and with much less evidence in their favor.
I think the issue is not the vaccine, it is the demonization by one political party of anybody who has legitimate concerns or questions about the forced injection of a vaccine which was rushed out for arguably political reasons and with immunity for the drug companies.

I don't think people, by and large, are against modern medicine. People are very suspicious of the government mandating anything. Especially when the side doing the mandating have been yelling "my body my choice" when wanting to terminate human life in their womb but then want to tell you that the government can force you to put something in your body you don't want. It is the double standard that makes people uneasy, not necessarily the medical aspect. However, people will distrust the individuals pushing the medicine if they think it is being pushed for a reason other than (or perhaps along with) a legitimate medical one.
 
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What's really funny to me is the folks who trashed the media for making Covid "sound worse than it is" and "trying to scare people"...........are doing the exact same thing with the vaccine.....and with much less evidence in their favor.



They are undercounting people like this like crazy and down the road they will be forced to admit a lot of suffering was caused by these trash vaccines.
 
What's really funny to me is the folks who trashed the media for making Covid "sound worse than it is" and "trying to scare people"...........are doing the exact same thing with the vaccine.....and with much less evidence in their favor.
So now you finally admit the shots aren't completely safe and effective as you thought they were.

Baby steps.
 
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I think the issue is not the vaccine, it is the demonization by one political party of anybody who has legitimate concerns or questions about the forced injection of a vaccine which was rushed out for arguably political reasons and with immunity for the drug companies.

I don't think people, by and large, are against modern medicine. People are very suspicious of the government mandating anything. Especially when the side doing the mandating have been yelling "my body my choice" when wanting to terminate human life in their womb but then want to tell you that the government can force you to put something in your body you don't want. It is the double standard that makes people uneasy, not necessarily the medical aspect. However, people will distrust the individuals pushing the medicine if they think it is being pushed for a reason other than (or perhaps along with) a legitimate medical one.
Remind me again who it was who instituted "operation warp speed".

That evil Joe Biden?

Did it ever occur to you that the vaccine was rushed out (by both parties) to save lives?
 
Remind me again who it was who instituted "operation warp speed".

That evil Joe Biden?

Did it ever occur to you that the vaccine was rushed out (by both parties) to save lives?
You completely missed the point of my post. I said that the reluctance of people to trust, not the vaccine, but the forced utilization of the same by the government. I don't think Trump ever mandated people be vaccinated, only wanted to get the medical companies working on a solution when we all thought covid was going to be much worse than it was.

I never said the vaccine was evil, bad, or some sham. I said that forcing it on people will always precipitate concern, especially when it is being used as a political weapon.
 
I thought you were the one who made that promise.
Nope. @BSC911 said he would leave the board after election day, and he stayed.

You are thinking of the ban bet I had with @BSC911 on the 2020 election. I lost that bet and honored it. However once @BSC911 refused to honor his word and proved he was dishonest, my bet with him was null and void.

That's why you always keep your word.

Ironically, after lying about leaving the board after election day, he later claimed that if any poster here could show where he had lied, he would leave the board. Multiple posters pointed out his lie where he said he would leave the board after election day, but of course he didn't keep his word then either.
 
Remind me again who it was who instituted "operation warp speed".

That evil Joe Biden?

Did it ever occur to you that the vaccine was rushed out (by both parties) to save lives?

Trump was an idiot pushing this trash vaccine but he at least he wasn't naive enough to push for mandates like the crazed leftists.
 
You completely missed the point of my post. I said that the reluctance of people to trust, not the vaccine, but the forced utilization of the same by the government. I don't think Trump ever mandated people be vaccinated, only wanted to get the medical companies working on a solution when we all thought covid was going to be much worse than it was.

I never said the vaccine was evil, bad, or some sham. I said that forcing it on people will always precipitate concern, especially when it is being used as a political weapon.
I agree with you on that part. I don't think it should be mandated either.....but your post went into more than that one issue.

The government did not force me to take the shot? Did it force you?
 
What's really funny to me is the folks who trashed the media for making Covid "sound worse than it is" and "trying to scare people"...........are doing the exact same thing with the vaccine.....and with much less evidence in their favor.
They're trying to make the vaccine side effects that you don't think exist sound worse?

Didn't you mean to say they're completely making up vaccine side effects to cause hysteria for no reason other than to feed conspiracy theories?

Surely you didn't mean to admit in writing that people are having adverse reactions to the safe and effective vaccines. That would make you part of the problem.
 
Remind me again who it was who instituted "operation warp speed".

That evil Joe Biden?

Did it ever occur to you that the vaccine was rushed out (by both parties) to save lives?
Show me where Trump wore a lab coat and developed any medical treatments please.

That's like saying the person who fast tracked your passport is responsible for you getting mugged in an alley in Europe.
 
They're trying to make the vaccine side effects that you don't think exist sound worse?

Didn't you mean to say they're completely making up vaccine side effects to cause hysteria for no reason other than to feed conspiracy theories?

Surely you didn't mean to admit in writing that people are having adverse reactions to the safe and effective vaccines. That would make you part of the problem.
Please stop replying to my posts. You are a complete waste of time. There is no point to conversing with you on any level.
 
I know board certified doctors who are adamantly against the vaccine. I know board certified doctors who are adamantly for the vaccine. The problem is that this has become a political issue more than a medical one and people are extremely leery of the government forcing anything on them. Americans have always been contrarian to forced governmental edicts.

The worst thing anybody did on either side of this issue was to suggest it should be mandated since that turned it into a political issue and the actual facts regarding the vaccine get lost in the crossfire.

My parents, who are in their 70s are vaccinated. They had some side effects, but minimal. Probably a good move for them given their age and susceptibility to negative side effects of Covid. My kids are very healthy and probably don't need the vaccine since we really don't have any way to know long term health risks and the fact that Covid, especially the newest varieties, have very minor health risks to young health people. This is not a one-size-fits-all issue.

That is why this should be an individual issue decided between an informed patient and their doctor. Get the government out of the picture and you will probably see better discussions and choices by all.
HERIN lies the problem. With what we have seen only since 2016 with the attempted overthrow of our election by the FBI, CIA, NSA and others, coupled with Hillary caught RED HANDED with no repercussions, Trump getting impeached for what Biden was caught openly on tape DOING, and then the left trying to make everyone believe this stupid SOB that hid in his basement, because he cannot complete a sentence got 81 million votes...how in HELL would anyone trust them. Then add all the flip flops on the "science" of covid. No...I do not trust the American government AT ALL. ZERO. When you look at the way covid has been handled...how can you believe ANYTHING they say? I take ZERO precautions for covid. I do not believe anything we read about covid. I have refuse to wear a mask ever since 6/2020. It took about 3-4 months for me to figure out they were lying to us. And the left forcing everyone to wear masks tells you all that you need to know. Remember...these people do not like American capitalism...they are all socialists. They LOVE government teet!
 
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I agree with you on that part. I don't think it should be mandated either.....but your post went into more than that one issue.

The government did not force me to take the shot? Did it force you?
It forced the military and tried to force those companies with more than 100 people to get it. It tried to require vaccine passports and the next step, if they could get away with it, was to universally mandate it.
 
It forced the military and tried to force those companies with more than 100 people to get it. It tried to require vaccine passports and the next step, if they could get away with it, was to universally mandate it.

Well said...it's enough that they tried. Next time they will be better prepared and they will try harder.
 
Please stop calling the Big Pharm Co-V experimental drugs freakin' vaccines,,, because they're NOT!

What their poison jabs don't do:
They don't stop you from getting it.
They don't stop you from spreading it.
And they won't cure you if you have it.

But they might cause you immediate harm, including up to killing you.
While their long term effects won't be fully known for 75 years if Big Pharm has it's way....
 
Well said...it's enough that they tried. Next time they will be better prepared and they will try harder.
This is what liberals don’t understand.

Many people got to choose between feeding their families or taking a shot they didn’t want.

And their response is “no one forced you did they”!?

Well no @Illegal-shift - no one physically held me down and make me take the shot. I guess I could have picked watching my family suffer and risk losing our home.

Totalitarians act the same in every country. You fall in line with gov’t orders or you lose everything. That’s not a choice.
 
This is what liberals don’t understand.

Many people got to choose between feeding their families or taking a shot they didn’t want.

And their response is “no one forced you did they”!?

Well no @Illegal-shift - no one physically held me down and make me take the shot. I guess I could have picked watching my family suffer and risk losing our home.

Totalitarians act the same in every country. You fall in line with gov’t orders or you lose everything. That’s not a choice.
fatman76 can define all seven components of critical thinking. Liberals cannot.
 
Please stop calling the Big Pharm Co-V experimental drugs freakin' vaccines,,, because they're NOT!

What their poison jabs don't do:
They don't stop you from getting it.
They don't stop you from spreading it.
And they won't cure you if you have it.

But they might cause you immediate harm, including up to killing you.
While their long term effects won't be fully known for 75 years if Big Pharm has it's way....
I stopped calling them vaccines around a year ago. I call them 'vaccines'. By the CDC's own definition they are simply a treatment.
 
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This is what liberals don’t understand.

Many people got to choose between feeding their families or taking a shot they didn’t want.

And their response is “no one forced you did they”!?
This is why I wonder if we should call these people evil or not. @Uniformed_ReRe gets the vapors when I use that word in regards to shot cheerleaders, but blindly defending the government trying to coerce people into taking the 'vaccines' if they want to keep their job is indeed evil.
 
It forced the military and tried to force those companies with more than 100 people to get it. It tried to require vaccine passports and the next step, if they could get away with it, was to universally mandate it.
so, in other words, the only mandate was for the Military.

Sounds to me like they got it pretty much right in the end.
 
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They're trying to make the vaccine side effects that you don't think exist sound worse?

Didn't you mean to say they're completely making up vaccine side effects to cause hysteria for no reason other than to feed conspiracy theories?

Surely you didn't mean to admit in writing that people are having adverse reactions to the safe and effective vaccines. That would make you part of the problem.
This is just another out and out lie. Its just what you do.

You have no regard for the truth and have almost no commons sense. I suspect that's how you arrived at the whacked out points of view you have and why you post so much in here. Nobody in the real world likely pays any attention to what you have to say. Its sad and pathetic.

I am the guy who posted, many times, in the other thread about pretty much every medication, including this vaccine, having some bad results for some people. Remember the posts about people dying from aspirin or Tylenol? Trying to get the point through your thick skull that all medication has risk and your posting of individual one-off situations was stupid and pointless. The only question you should be asking is the risk of the vaccine worse than the risk of getting sick without it. You don't ask that question because you don't like the answer.

So lets see how you spin this. You know your post above is a lie. Are you going to admit it like a man.........or are you going to spin it like the wus you usually are? I have never seen you admit anything, so we know the way this is going to go.
 
Remind me again who it was who instituted "operation warp speed".

That evil Joe Biden?

Did it ever occur to you that the vaccine was rushed out (by both parties) to save lives?
See this is the sad part. Folks like you who make it political. The folks I know who didn’t want it, didn’t care about who the President was that got us the vac, or who was mandating it.

You have TDS with every subject
 
See this is the sad part. Folks like you who make it political. The folks I know who didn’t want it, didn’t care about who the President was that got us the vac, or who was mandating it.

You have TDS with every subject
You have it completely backwards. My response was to the guy who was making it political, blaming one political party. My point was that both parties where, and are, responsible. Please try and keep up.
 
You have it completely backwards. My response was to the guy who was making it political, blaming one political party. My point was that both parties where, and are, responsible. Please try and keep up.
I never said the vaccine was political. I said one party is in favor of mandates. Not sure how you confused that. I think it is perfectly ok for people to have tattoos but would be against the government mandating everyone get one or they could not be part of society
 
The only question you should be asking is the risk of the vaccine worse than the risk of getting sick without it. You don't ask that question because you don't like the answer.
Of course it's worse, we're talking about a 'vaccine' that has been proven to be the deadliest in the history of medicine.....for treating a virus that has the same morality rate as the seasonal flu.

What in the world are you thinking?
 
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