@bradleygator for a President that you claim is worried about this, Trump sure is going ahead full speed with this case.
You ok over there?
The Clinton Mafia strikes again. Jeffrey Epstein commits "Arkancide"
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@bradleygator for a President that you claim is worried about this, Trump sure is going ahead full speed with this case.
You ok over there?
Yep, hid nothing from the IRS, the Russian scam, or this federal investigation.
There Is A ‘Sexual Picture’ Of Bill Clinton In Jeffrey Epstein’s Mansion, Report Says
Oh my........
@bradleygator @urtren
Oh my........
@bradleygator @urtren
Guess all three are waiting on MSNBC or Mother Jones to crack the code.
Or if any of you were critical thinkers, you could start doing your own research and educate yourselves on the topic. But that's a very unsheep-like thing to do.
Do you have an extra copy of your New York Times best seller, "My Humility And How I Discovered It" available for any interested parties to read?
Agent Orange
Please, like his hero, the orange lump, I would bet that he hasn’t read a book all the way through in the last 5 years, maybe ever.
Never heard of it. Sounds like a fairy tale.
But for those that are interested in educating themselves on this topic, a few simple Google searches (or Duck Duck Go if you prefer) will lead you to the answers.
And the ability to leave a more educated opinion here.
What you're not saying: if you do the same research I do...and come up with the same conclusions (as I do...meaning Ghost)...then you become a critical thinker having the same opinions/beliefs Ghost does/has...and you can have a more educated opinion here.
Got it.
Thanks for playing.
Agent Orange
Ghost does not draw conclusions as that would involve conscious thought.
Careful he might put you on ignore
Let's say you are at a tailgate tomorrow for a high school football game. You're in a group of about 10 fans you've just met. You make the comment "Tennessee football has a very rich history", and one of the guys in the group says "A-Ha! Tennesee football! Now there's a topic I know something about!"
You perk up and ask "Oh really? So I take it you are a fan of General Neyland?"
And the guy replies "Who the hell is that?"
That right there tells you that this guy doesn't know much about the history of Tennessee football, does he? The fact that @bradleygator hasn't the faintest idea who RC is in regards to the epstein scandal tells me that he doesn't know much about it either.
And if I wanted him to do the same research I did, I would have pointed him to the same sources I used. I didn't. I told him to google it if he wanted to know more. He obviously does not, I guess speaking loudly from a position of ignorance is more fun than educating yourself and possibly finding out that the talking points MSNBC fed you about Trump and epstein really didn't hold much water.
Shrugs. You can educate yourself too, if you like. Or not.
Why take the time to educate myself when I have such a "critical thinker" such as you to do my work for me?...I'm just saving time and energy...that's called "delegation of research"...but I'm sure such a critical thinker such as yourself might have figured that out.
Maybe not.
Agent Orange
Maybe not.
Agent Orange
Once again,
Let's use logic(novel concept I know, and worthless to cultists.)
My last post on the subject because MAGAts are idiots.
1. There are copious pictures and video of Trump with Epstein in the public sphere, which stands to reason there is much more hidden. In fact, Trump made the statement he was aware of Epstein's preference for "really young women"
2. As of today, despite the fact all here claim Clinton was MUCH closer to Epstein, all we have is rumor and innuendo. No photos, no videos partying with women, etc.
3. If we add 1 and 2, plus throw in Prince Andrew photos, what we are saying is Bill Clinton is a ghost, and supremely expert at avoiding all lenses. Basically a ninja. This, despite the fact he couldn't clean the jizz off a dress.
4. Epstien was killed at a federal facility(Barr), in Trump's borough of NY(Manhattan). Under suspicious circumstances relating to "sleeping" guards, who are employees of the DOJ(Barr)
5. Clinton had 28 years to kill Epstein, including 8 as president. Car accident, pushed into traffic, plane crash, poisoning(Putin favorite), but waits until he is arrested and in prison 20 years out of office to do it?
6. Trump has demonstrated over and over and over and over and over and over, he will do or say ANYTHING about ANYONE, or any country(mostly the USA) to avoid personal accountability.
And if anyone says Obama, you are an idiot. In 1990, Obama was 29 years old. In 2000, 39. If he wanted a PYT, he didn't need Epstein. Every other "participant" was at least 25 YEARS OLDER(and disgusting)
Now, I realize this will change no one's mind. But in the REAL world, not Nunes fantasy land, not Gym Jordan conspiracy world, not QANON commie porn, the obvious answer is the most likely one.
Let's use logic(novel concept I know, and worthless to cultists.)
My last post on the subject because MAGAts are idiots.
1. There are copious pictures and video of Trump with Epstein in the public sphere, which stands to reason there is much more hidden. In fact, Trump made the statement he was aware of Epstein's preference for "really young women"
2. As of today, despite the fact all here claim Clinton was MUCH closer to Epstein, all we have is rumor and innuendo. No photos, no videos partying with women, etc.
3. If we add 1 and 2, plus throw in Prince Andrew photos, what we are saying is Bill Clinton is a ghost, and supremely expert at avoiding all lenses. Basically a ninja. This, despite the fact he couldn't clean the jizz off a dress.
4. Epstien was killed at a federal facility(Barr), in Trump's borough of NY(Manhattan). Under suspicious circumstances relating to "sleeping" guards, who are employees of the DOJ(Barr)
5. Clinton had 28 years to kill Epstein, including 8 as president. Car accident, pushed into traffic, plane crash, poisoning(Putin favorite), but waits until he is arrested and in prison 20 years out of office to do it?
6. Trump has demonstrated over and over and over and over and over and over, he will do or say ANYTHING about ANYONE, or any country(mostly the USA) to avoid personal accountability.
And if anyone says Obama, you are an idiot. In 1990, Obama was 29 years old. In 2000, 39. If he wanted a PYT, he didn't need Epstein. Every other "participant" was at least 25 YEARS OLDER(and disgusting)
Now, I realize this will change no one's mind. But in the REAL world, not Nunes fantasy land, not Gym Jordan conspiracy world, not QANON commie porn, the obvious answer is the most likely one.
Ghost writes:
"You perk up and ask "Oh really? So I take it you are a fan of General Neyland?"
And the guy replies "Who the hell is that?"
That right there tells you that this guy doesn't know much about the history of Tennessee football, does he?"
A major problem with your premise: you didn't say anything about the age of the person claiming to be familiar with UT football...say he's 35 years old, remembers the glory days of Peyton Manning and Tee Martin and knew about UT beating FSU in the Fiesta Bowl for the National Championship...but since he's too young to have known anything about General Neyland...that doesn't indicate he's not knowledgeable about TN football anymore than a 20 year old sophomore who can't relate to the late Bear Bryant or Gene Stallings or Mike DuBose or Mike Shula (who all coached at Bama).
So yes, that guy does, in fact, know something about TN football...but since his age precludes him from much knowledge/familiarity about General Neyland...that is a moot point.
Notice in your original posting that guy claimed to know something about TN football (which he probably does)...but you changed the topic of discussion (in your post) to "knowing about the history" of UT football...remember?...reread your words...knowing something about TN football doesn't always equate to knowing the history of TN football, does it?...of course, it doesn't.
But if he knows about Manning, Martin, the Fiesta Bowl...then yes, he knows some history...but he's not expected to know ***all*** the history.
Seems as if a critical thinker such as yourself might have thought to include such possibilities as these...but that an emotional guy (which you have called me) was able to "critically" point that out.
Voila!
Agent Orange
"You perk up and ask "Oh really? So I take it you are a fan of General Neyland?"
And the guy replies "Who the hell is that?"
That right there tells you that this guy doesn't know much about the history of Tennessee football, does he?"
A major problem with your premise: you didn't say anything about the age of the person claiming to be familiar with UT football...say he's 35 years old, remembers the glory days of Peyton Manning and Tee Martin and knew about UT beating FSU in the Fiesta Bowl for the National Championship...but since he's too young to have known anything about General Neyland...that doesn't indicate he's not knowledgeable about TN football anymore than a 20 year old sophomore who can't relate to the late Bear Bryant or Gene Stallings or Mike DuBose or Mike Shula (who all coached at Bama).
So yes, that guy does, in fact, know something about TN football...but since his age precludes him from much knowledge/familiarity about General Neyland...that is a moot point.
Notice in your original posting that guy claimed to know something about TN football (which he probably does)...but you changed the topic of discussion (in your post) to "knowing about the history" of UT football...remember?...reread your words...knowing something about TN football doesn't always equate to knowing the history of TN football, does it?...of course, it doesn't.
But if he knows about Manning, Martin, the Fiesta Bowl...then yes, he knows some history...but he's not expected to know ***all*** the history.
Seems as if a critical thinker such as yourself might have thought to include such possibilities as these...but that an emotional guy (which you have called me) was able to "critically" point that out.
Voila!
Agent Orange
I said the history of Tennessee football. Which didn't begin in 1998, although a strong case could be made that they didn't do much before or after that date for a long time.
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How does RC fit into this?
How does obama fit into this?
You haven't done your homework. Bet you hear that a lot.
You said history of TN football.
He said, "TN football...Now, there's a topic I know something about."
You and he were talking about two different things.
Has that point come to your critical mind yet?
Agent Orange
He said, "TN football...Now, there's a topic I know something about."
You and he were talking about two different things.
Has that point come to your critical mind yet?
Agent Orange
Well if you refuse to educate yourself and rely on someone else to tell you how to think then you really can't complain about how they carry themselves in doing so, can you?
Well, since you trumpet yourself as "the critical thinker" so often on this Forum...and since several folks, myself included, never seem to meet your exacting standards...it's only logical (sound thinking) to allow "the critical thinker---you) to expend many hours/energy to let us know what we need to know, IYO, of course...that's what managers do: they let you (and folks such as yourself) to do the heavy lifting and forward us the information that you have gleaned.
Then we can have the "a-ha" moment we've all been waiting for.
We thank you so much for all you share...and your valuable research...your hard work means more time for other pleasures for ourselves.
We owe you a debt of gratitude..
Agent Orange
Then we can have the "a-ha" moment we've all been waiting for.
We thank you so much for all you share...and your valuable research...your hard work means more time for other pleasures for ourselves.
We owe you a debt of gratitude..
Agent Orange
The only RC I could imagine he is talking about is Roy Cohn...but Roy is dead and what most of us care about are the names of big wigs who might go to jail...Roy may have been influencial but the average Joe does not know who he is or cares since he is dead...so we have Clinton, the Dersh, and Andrew possibly on the island...Trump flew once from Fla to NYC.
Do the research and educate yourself, or not. But I'm not going to waste my time doing the research, then coming here and trying to convince you to believe in something that you think is BS because you haven't done the research I have.
Because like I keep telling @bradleygator, this is all going to come out eventually, you can either educate yourself now, or be educated later. But I'm not going to waste my time now trying to sell you on an idea that you will reject because it is opposed to your current worldview.
Several points: you haven't dealt with me for many years as DCandtheUTBand (aka Davey Crockett) has...and he can tell you with all certainty that neither he (DC) or myself are completely clear on what my worldview is...ask him...my worldview is fluid and as DC says, "Agent, you're all over the place."...so, good luck in trying to capture my worldview...perhaps you can do something nobody else (including myself) has had the fortune/misfortune in trying to figure out...so, in all honesty, you haven't a clue as to whether I'm going to reject any of your empirical data at any time...and FYI: if you'll look back at your "likes"...AO2217 (me) has found/liked many of your postings...once again, a dismal showing on your part generalizing something you are clueless about.
Folks such as yourself are interesting to note and study for many reasons: first, your "game" about who RC is...is simply a game that allows you to be superior with all of your research expertise while holding something back and over the readers of this forum...interesting power play, on your part...but have you noticed that hardly anyone has taken the bait and tried to join you in your power play/game?...most of us are wise enough to see the game you're playing and in due time, who or what RC is, will be revealed and you can rest on your exalted laurels knowing you just happen to have information (due to your extensive research and your critical thinking) that none of the rest of us possess...clearly, hardly anyone was interested in your approach.
You should thank @urtren, @bradleygator, myself, @BoxofFrogs for the times we have triggered you into many responses leading to daily pronouncements from yourself about your critical thinking prowess...and we know you feel better about yourself, don't you?
And as we know, our limited research could never compare to your extensive trove of unbiased research, yes?
At this point, until the federal reserve or any other category similar in power/stature is changed/dissolved/broken up, that would be classified as hopeful thinking/wishes to come true/conspiracy theories (which I love, BTW)...because it hasn't happened...but could it?...of course it could.
Until it happens, it hasn't happened...and too many things, IMO, are too fluid.
But we know that should this happen, you'll probably come back and remind us of your critical thinking skills, your vast trove of research that you discovered, and let us know in ways, subtle/unsubtle that you foresaw future events, and ain't you some bad stuff, and only if we had done what you had done, not only would we be intellectually superior, we'd be a critical thinker...just like you...lawd, at the possibilities.
Go on wit' yo' smug actin' self. LOL
Agent Orange
Folks such as yourself are interesting to note and study for many reasons: first, your "game" about who RC is...is simply a game that allows you to be superior with all of your research expertise while holding something back and over the readers of this forum...interesting power play, on your part...but have you noticed that hardly anyone has taken the bait and tried to join you in your power play/game?...most of us are wise enough to see the game you're playing and in due time, who or what RC is, will be revealed and you can rest on your exalted laurels knowing you just happen to have information (due to your extensive research and your critical thinking) that none of the rest of us possess...clearly, hardly anyone was interested in your approach.
You should thank @urtren, @bradleygator, myself, @BoxofFrogs for the times we have triggered you into many responses leading to daily pronouncements from yourself about your critical thinking prowess...and we know you feel better about yourself, don't you?
And as we know, our limited research could never compare to your extensive trove of unbiased research, yes?
At this point, until the federal reserve or any other category similar in power/stature is changed/dissolved/broken up, that would be classified as hopeful thinking/wishes to come true/conspiracy theories (which I love, BTW)...because it hasn't happened...but could it?...of course it could.
Until it happens, it hasn't happened...and too many things, IMO, are too fluid.
But we know that should this happen, you'll probably come back and remind us of your critical thinking skills, your vast trove of research that you discovered, and let us know in ways, subtle/unsubtle that you foresaw future events, and ain't you some bad stuff, and only if we had done what you had done, not only would we be intellectually superior, we'd be a critical thinker...just like you...lawd, at the possibilities.
Go on wit' yo' smug actin' self. LOL
Agent Orange
AO without the C is a treasure of knowledge but probably not with how he might think. I thank the Great Father for my perceived incredibly high ability to decipher.
But this is all you do, make vague predictions, using code names and pseudonyms and other nonsense meant to distract from the fact that you really don’t understand much. Unfortunately for you, that shtick can only last for so long. At some point, a thinking individual is going to want an explanation for how and why things are going to happen. At that point your ignorance and limited intellect become transparent, because you just don’t have any answers. You’re then left with just the empty approval of fellow cheerleaders nail and curmudgeon.
You were doing all right until you started making the ridiculous claim that the US will be debt free by 2025, which anyone with a middle school level grounding in economics knows is completely absurd and which not even Trump is deluded enough to state as a position. You’re too stubborn to back off it and you don’t know enough to explain it, or even to bs your way through it.
How could the USA be debt free by 2025 or any year?...hmmmmmmmmmm...let me think here for a second.
Ok...let's say the UNfederal reserve is taken down/away...that is only one central bank...then there's the ECB, BOJ (bank of Japan), RBA (royal bank of Australia), BOI (bank of India) and many other central banks around the world...central banks that are closely/financially connected...and then there's Wall Street, the City of London...places/entities such as that...again, all connected...and with derivatives, MBSs (mortgage backed securities), CDSs (collateral debt swaps) added to the mix and gosh knows what all else has been cooked up...and again, everything-everywhere is connected...and even if the almost $23 trillion in nominal debt could be erased...then there's over $125 trillion in unfunded liabilities (which is debt) to contend with...then there's the problem with US pension funds...if, and if there's a recession...many believe the feds will have to bail out cities like Chicago, Dallas, and who knows what other cities...leading to more debt being levied on our federal gov't to be passed onto the tax payers (such as yourself and myself).
So, with things being the way they are...does the dissolution of the federal reserve actually mean debt goes away?...and if our debt goes away...just where is "away" (the location) of where the debt would go?
Would there have to be a debt jubilee?
Would the USD ($) have to go the way of the dodo bird?
And since China & Russia are hoarding gold...does the old saying about "he who owns the gold makes all the rules?"
I find this a fascinating point of discussion...hope one & all will offer some commentary.
Agent Orange
Ok...let's say the UNfederal reserve is taken down/away...that is only one central bank...then there's the ECB, BOJ (bank of Japan), RBA (royal bank of Australia), BOI (bank of India) and many other central banks around the world...central banks that are closely/financially connected...and then there's Wall Street, the City of London...places/entities such as that...again, all connected...and with derivatives, MBSs (mortgage backed securities), CDSs (collateral debt swaps) added to the mix and gosh knows what all else has been cooked up...and again, everything-everywhere is connected...and even if the almost $23 trillion in nominal debt could be erased...then there's over $125 trillion in unfunded liabilities (which is debt) to contend with...then there's the problem with US pension funds...if, and if there's a recession...many believe the feds will have to bail out cities like Chicago, Dallas, and who knows what other cities...leading to more debt being levied on our federal gov't to be passed onto the tax payers (such as yourself and myself).
So, with things being the way they are...does the dissolution of the federal reserve actually mean debt goes away?...and if our debt goes away...just where is "away" (the location) of where the debt would go?
Would there have to be a debt jubilee?
Would the USD ($) have to go the way of the dodo bird?
And since China & Russia are hoarding gold...does the old saying about "he who owns the gold makes all the rules?"
I find this a fascinating point of discussion...hope one & all will offer some commentary.
Agent Orange
Getting rid of the Fed wouldn’t have any impact on our debt except probably to make it more expensive because rates would probably have to float and would go up.
It’s an absurd idea. What would you replace it with? A gold peg? How are you going to print money to prop up the market?
It’s almost as stupid as saying we’ll be debt free by 2025. Nobody who takes it seriously should be taken seriously.
What was the difference in the amount of power/control the federal reserve had prior and post the USA taking the country off of the gold standard?
I believe that would be an interesting place to start thinking about.
The next place worthy of consideration is why, it seems, nobody in power knows how to handle money.
And why Greenspan, Bernanke, Old Yeller, and this Jerome Powell have any credibility left...do they?
Agent Orange
I believe that would be an interesting place to start thinking about.
The next place worthy of consideration is why, it seems, nobody in power knows how to handle money.
And why Greenspan, Bernanke, Old Yeller, and this Jerome Powell have any credibility left...do they?
Agent Orange
We came off gold to prop up the gubmints war on poverty because Nixon was too scared to try and repeal Large Bl@w J@bs Worst Society...heck it wasnt even a decade old...at least Trump and some pubs are trying to get rid of zer0 Care ...Nixon threw in the towel without a fight ...and now we are 22T+ in debt ...but hey we do have the wealthiest poor people in the world to show for it...a few years back it was said that all the bennies worked out to about 60K/year per family in value...and poor ole zer0s brother was living in a mud hut back in Kenya...hey brutha can ya spare a dime?
I think there’s this misconception that ending the Fed is somehow consistent with devaluing the dollar. If the Fed’s not going to set the value of the dollar, do you want the market to do it? Or do you have an even more accommodating mechanism in mind as replacement. And why is the market going to accept the new artificially cheap valuation? At some point, people are going to ask why this piece of paper is worth $100 just because we say so.
We haven't backed our currency with precious metals since the '70s. I agree it is a house of cards with no real backing, especially if you consider the Rothschild's and other powerful families wanting to control all of the world's currency under one form (the euro).
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