NonGator Terrible tragedy in New Orleans

[Zack51]

Yet you only called out one side..and NOT the side that covered up the biggest lie of my lifetime...RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. Or the 51 intelligence "EXPERTS" that lied about Hunters laptop(even though the FBI had the computer in their possession for over a year at that time) I am sure after a year the FBI did not know yet it was really Hunters?

I called out the side that I think is causing more damage to the way people think, but I’m also willing to accept both sides are bad at their intended purpose unless that purpose is to just entertain these days. Then in that case the right leaning news outlets are doing a better job while I personally give the advantage in truth telling to the left outlets (not saying 100 percent accurate but doing a better job imo)

For the sake of going in a circle about who lies more - Fox just paid out 787 million in a defamation lawsuit with Dominion for lying about the election being stolen through their machines.

(I apologize for the thread this discussion is happening in but I enjoy the back and forth and really don’t want to start a whole new thread about it)

 

[bigg8tr]

You STILL do not understand how your side got its AZZ whipped so bad...do you? LOL WE DO.

Whipped? Real.ly, Is that what this was? A yoyr side vs mine. Is that why a lot of folks on that side swallowed 💩, and voted against their own self-interest?.

Oh and "winning" by less than 2% and still having more folks vote against you and not for you is not an "ass whooping".

 

[bigg8tr]

So many things I'd need to address in your post but need to give it some thought. You've raised some other areas that take some time to answer. For example, I'm Protestant now but was raised Catholic. That would take pages to explain why and I'm not willing to do that.

As for the "woke" thing. It's a bastardization and manipulation of truth in every way. Pronouns and other nonsense is silly and demonic. And Islam is nothing like Christianity. Different God and you need to understand its origins. You really need to do some research on what they believe. I've spent years on all of this stuff and didn't arrive at any of my positions lightly.

So many things? CG you said "God doesn't change, God is the definition of consevative" Well, what is there to "explain"? Every single pne of the issues I addressed were changed because of "liberal" ideas.

Since as you say, "God is the same Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow" and we should be voting according to God's will, everything I listed should not have changed? Correct.

Being woke, is recognizing social and political issues affecting those folks in marginalized communities/groups. I mean isn't that what Jesus was about? I mean his whole essence, was love and understanding.

As for Islam. CG I am sorry, but you are very much uninformed about what Islam is. Islam as is Judaism and Christianity is based on the God of Abraham. Those that follow islam, and this is the most basic explanation, believe in the prophets of the Old and New Testament abd honor them all. Muslims believe in each of the covenants, believe in the flood, believe and honor Mary and Joseph, believe in the virgin birth, the believe Jesus rose directlybinto heaven, but was not the one crucified, so that when the time is right, he will return and fight the false messiah. He is considered the messiah in islam. This is a very cursory explanation why what you said is wrong.

A fyi, the caretakers of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre are a muslim family that have done so for centuries.

Muslim worship the same God that Abraham did. Allah is nothing but the word/name of God in Arabic.

I m not sure what you studied, or under whom you studied, but it is flat out wrong, I m sorry.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I called out the side that I think is causing more damage to the way people think, but I’m also willing to accept both sides are bad at their intended purpose unless that purpose is to just entertain these days. Then in that case the right leaning news outlets are doing a better job while I personally give the advantage in truth telling to the left outlets (not saying 100 percent accurate but doing a better job imo)

For the sake of going in a circle about who lies more - Fox just paid out 787 million in a defamation lawsuit with Dominion for lying about the election being stolen through their machines.

(I apologize for the thread this discussion is happening in but I enjoy the back and forth and really don’t want to start a whole new thread about it)

And Trump paid over 400 million for doing NOTHING..NO HARM. So that does not carry ANY weight. Because the election WAS STOLEN. So fox paid for telling THE TRUTH.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

The active duty Green Beret had 5 bronze stars awarded to him. He must have gone mental. Such a shame.

 

[bigg8tr]

Leftists are not good people - they are liars and fools. History proves this & it is not arguable..

Really? Were lefits wrong about the massacre of the Native Americans? How about slavery? Women's right to vote? The wrongfrul miscegenation laws? The internment of Japanese-Americans? The over-turning of poll taxes, jim crow laws and enforcement of anti-lynching laws? Overturning marrage rape laws? Child employment laws? Raising age of conset to prevent child-bride? Those damn mandatory childhood vax like polio, mumps etc.

I mean I get it .... those ephing leftists, I sure wish we could return to the good ol days.

 

[bigg8tr]

I believe the radio this morning had it wrong, as I later heard it was Turo also.

No worries BC,

Info right now is all over the place. But I will say something is going on.

 

[bigg8tr]

And Trump paid over 400 million for doing NOTHING..NO HARM. So that does not carry ANY weight. Because the election WAS STOLEN. So fox paid for telling THE TRUTH.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah convicted by a jury based on presented facts.

The election WAS stolen, you mean the one where Trump admitted it wasn't? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[bigg8tr]

What does God tell you?

Man, you're a fool. I about spit my soda out...

 

[Capt Ron 1]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah convicted by a jury based on presented facts.

The election WAS stolen, you mean the one where Trump admitted it wasn't? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A NEW YORK jury of lefty IDIOTS that hate America like EVERY lefty alive does. I tell you what. You prove to me you know the difference between a male and female...and we can still communicate here. You are obviously a lefty..and I have never seen one that knows the difference. Can you expound?

 

[Zack51]

A NEW YORK jury of lefty IDIOTS that hate America like EVERY lefty alive does. I tell you what. You prove to me you know the difference between a male and female...and we can still communicate here. You are obviously a lefty..and I have never seen one that knows the difference. Can you expound?

You are the exact example of why I find right news outlets damaging. Just look at your posts and how you puppet the way Trump communicates. You are focused on the dumbest things with the dumbest rhetoric because that is what they focus on all day.

 

[Hotlanta_Bill]

Man, you're a fool. I about spit my soda out...

😉

 

[LordofallSocks]

My monthly reminder. 😎

 

[gatordad3]

A NEW YORK jury of lefty IDIOTS that hate America like EVERY lefty alive does. I tell you what. You prove to me you know the difference between a male and female...and we can still communicate here. You are obviously a lefty..and I have never seen one that knows the difference. Can you expound?

Ever notice when Trump's lawyer told Leticia James he'll put her fat ass in jail, she kept her mouth shut ever since? That was shortly after the election.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You are the exact example of why I find right news outlets damaging. Just look at your posts and how you puppet the way Trump communicates. You are focused on the dumbest things with the dumbest rhetoric because that is what they focus on all day.

Then I feel sorry for you that you are not a very bright person. You have no answer for what I said...then you resort to that garbage. Let me remind you of something. YOU and all lefties pretended that idiot was NOT brain dead...until the debate. THEN you MADE him quit. HOW DEMOCRATIC!! LOLOL ALL of you screamed RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA for 3 1/2 years...and were ALL wrong. So please STOP telling ME I do not know what is going on

 

[Zack51]

Then I feel sorry for you that you are not a very bright person. You have no answer for what I said...then you resort to that garbage. Let me remind you of something. YOU and all lefties pretended that idiot was NOT brain dead...until the debate. THEN you MADE him quit. HOW DEMOCRATIC!! LOLOL ALL of you screamed RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA for 3 1/2 years...and were ALL wrong. So please STOP telling ME I do not know what is going on

It feels like a waste of time answering what you said. Gender is not a real issue in this country is my answer. I truly just don’t care. I also am not a fan of Biden or any individual democrat. I just align more with what the party stands for compared to the right. I feel sorry you are so caught up in non issues fed to you by narcissistic billionaires. I am not personally caught up in what the narcissistic left billionaires have to say either. Every move is for more money.

My political beliefs are solely built on my personal belief that everyone in the world deserves a fair shot. It’s unrealistic but if we all stop fighting for a fair ideal world then what’s the point. Both parties are doing a bad job but the right actively fights against fairness for all and Trump is the heart of that.

 

[LordofallSocks]

It feels like a waste of time answering what you said. Gender is not a real issue in this country is my answer. I truly just don’t care. I also am not a fan of Biden or any individual democrat. I just align more with what the party stands for compared to the right. I feel sorry you are so caught up in non issues fed to you by narcissistic billionaires. I am not personally caught up in what the narcissistic left billionaires have to say either. Every move is for more money.

My political beliefs are solely built on my personal belief that everyone in the world deserves a fair shot. It’s unrealistic but if we all stop fighting for a fair ideal world then what’s the point. Both parties are doing a bad job but the right actively fights against fairness for all and Trump is the heart of that.

Life ain't fair. Get a helmet.

Equality of rights and opportunities absolutely, but demanding everyone start on equal footing is ludicrous.

 

[GatorTheo]

Really? Were lefits wrong about the massacre of the Native Americans? How about slavery? Women's right to vote? The wrongfrul miscegenation laws? The internment of Japanese-Americans? The over-turning of poll taxes, jim crow laws and enforcement of anti-lynching laws? Overturning marrage rape laws? Child employment laws? Raising age of conset to prevent child-bride? Those damn mandatory childhood vax like polio, mumps etc.

I mean I get it .... those ephing leftists, I sure wish we could return to the good ol days.

I gotta agree with you there. The two biggest mistakes in American history were slavery and letting women vote. Life would be so wonderful without those two disasters.

 

[LordofallSocks]

I gotta agree with you there. The two biggest mistakes in American history were slavery and letting women vote. Life would be so wonderful without those two disasters.

Fail. Slavery gets shit done. Ask the Egyptians.

 

[GatorTheo]

Fail. Slavery gets shit done. Ask the Egyptians.

Yeah but Swedish women couldn't pick cotton?

 

[bigg8tr]

A NEW YORK jury of lefty IDIOTS that hate America like EVERY lefty alive does. I tell you what. You prove to me you know the difference between a male and female...and we can still communicate here. You are obviously a lefty..and I have never seen one that knows the difference. Can you expound?

Why would I hate America? Because I believe in the ideal that all peopke should be treated the same? Do I understand the trans issue or the psychological issues behind it, no. Do I think trans women should compete in women's sports, no. Should trans wome use women's restrooms, no. There should be unisex restrooms with individual doors that can lock with urinals and toilets, like "family restrooms". Just because I believe those things doesn't mean I am going to try and intentionally "hurt" someone either, physically, emotionally, psychologically or medically because they are trans, the choice to do those things isn't very Christian is it?

The trans issue in sports, I believe is a situation where one person's rights females rights are being superceded by transgender rights. That to me is unfair.


Yet, I m still a lefty.

 

[bigg8tr]

I gotta agree with you there. The two biggest mistakes in American history were slavery and letting women vote. Life would be so wonderful without those two disasters.

I guess.

 

[Zack51]

Life ain't fair. Get a helmet.

Equality of rights and opportunities absolutely, but demanding everyone start on equal footing is ludicrous.

Is equality of rights and opportunity not the same as “everyone in the world deserves a fair shot” ?

Just because life isn’t fair shouldn’t mean we don’t fight for the underdog anymore.

At no point did I make a demand or state people are entitled to anything. I just think the world is a better place when the people living in it are more motivated to be united than at odds. It’s crazy that this is met with negativity or that you all feel the need to combat that mindset.

 

[NavigatorII]

It feels like a waste of time answering what you said. Gender is not a real issue in this country is my answer. I truly just don’t care. I also am not a fan of Biden or any individual democrat. I just align more with what the party stands for compared to the right. I feel sorry you are so caught up in non issues fed to you by narcissistic billionaires. I am not personally caught up in what the narcissistic left billionaires have to say either. Every move is for more money.

My political beliefs are solely built on my personal belief that everyone in the world deserves a fair shot. It’s unrealistic but if we all stop fighting for a fair ideal world then what’s the point. Both parties are doing a bad job but the right actively fights against fairness for all and Trump is the heart of that.

And yet, you voted for the useless, socialist, lying whore Kamala. Duly noted.

 

[LordofallSocks]

Is equality of rights and opportunity not the same as “everyone in the world deserves a fair shot” ?

Not if that fair shot is gotten unfairly.

Affirmative action is not a fair shot.

DEI hiring is not a fair shot.

I don't believe in diversity quotas either.

 

[Gator Fever]

 

[BCSpell]

Yeah but Swedish women couldn't pick cotton?

They were used for something else.

 

[Gator Fever]

Crazy the media got access to his place that quick. She needs to learn what squalor means also.

 

[jb1215]

It feels like a waste of time answering what you said. Gender is not a real issue in this country is my answer. I truly just don’t care. I also am not a fan of Biden or any individual democrat. I just align more with what the party stands for compared to the right. I feel sorry you are so caught up in non issues fed to you by narcissistic billionaires. I am not personally caught up in what the narcissistic left billionaires have to say either. Every move is for more money.

My political beliefs are solely built on my personal belief that everyone in the world deserves a fair shot. It’s unrealistic but if we all stop fighting for a fair ideal world then what’s the point. Both parties are doing a bad job but the right actively fights against fairness for all and Trump is the heart of that.

So, narcissistic billionaires like Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg and George Soros?
Edit: Do you care George Soros pumped $40 + Million to get horrible left wing District Attorneys elected across the country not willing to enforce laws and allowing violent crime to spike dramatically in every city they were elected?

Please explain in detail how the right actively fights against fairness.

 

[gatordad3]

Just another DEI horror story.

 

[JimGaster]

DEI is a total disgrace & needs to go the same way Jim Crow did!

 

[treygator29]

That doesn’t mean the network admitted to openly lying to their viewers, or that the "News" network is only for entertainment. It was settled out of court, and his other lawsuits were tossed.

Not to sound snarky, you don't see the difference?

Sounds more like moving the goalposts to me.

So they didn’t admit to openly lying, but they still did. Ok.

 

[bigg8tr]

Sounds more like moving the goalposts to me.

So they didn’t admit to openly lying, but they still did. Ok.

Huh? You really don't know what occurred do you?

They, CNN, reported what occurred based on what was said by only one of the parties involved, without knowing there was other video contradicting what that person, again who was actually involved, said. CNN admitted they were wrong and then settled out of Court, they did not actively and purposely lie. Other media outlets that did the same, who didn't settle, had their cases dismissed in Court, and the appeal by the kids reps was rejected at the Apellate level. CNN could have had the same result, but caved early.

Fox on the other hand, admitted they fabricate stories they know are untrue for entertainment value, because they, self-admittedly said they are not a news network but instead are an entertainment network, so they should be able to lie.

That's not moving the goalposts, that's playing on a different field.

I'm sorry yiu get your "news" from Faux News, that leads to the basis for what you believe. Folks that told you they lie, and yet you swallow their 💩 and regularly regurgitate it.

 

[bigg8tr]

Not if that fair shot is gotten unfairly.

Affirmative action is not a fair shot.

DEI hiring is not a fair shot.

I don't believe in diversity quotas either.

I think too many folks talk past one another when it comes to these issues. What needs to be done for those kids born into poverty, in underperforming schools. So that when the graduate HS they can get into a great college based on what many consider "merit" alone.

How do we as a society, ensure these kids that then do make it are hired for a job they qualify for and are not passed over based on their race, gender, ethnicity, culture?

There is definitely no right answer, but what is yours?

 

[JimGaster]

I think too many folks talk past one another when it comes to these issues. What needs to be done for those kids born into poverty, in underperforming schools. So that when the graduate HS they can get into a great college based on what many consider "merit" alone.

How do we as a society, ensure these kids that then do make it are hired for a job they qualify for and are not passed over based on their race, gender, ethnicity, culture?

There is definitely no right answer, but what is yours?

School Choice & free the kids from poverty!

 

[bigg8tr]

School Choice & free the kids from poverty!

Can you expound on school choice?

and Free the kids from Poverty.

 

[GatorTrooper]

Was wondering when this thread would be moved. 😁

 

[LordofallSocks]

I think too many folks talk past one another when it comes to these issues. What needs to be done for those kids born into poverty, in underperforming schools. So that when the graduate HS they can get into a great college based on what many consider "merit" alone.

How do we as a society, ensure these kids that then do make it are hired for a job they qualify for and are not passed over based on their race, gender, ethnicity, culture?

There is definitely no right answer, but what is yours?

Sucks to be them.

 

[bradleygator]

Here’s Trump using this to call for increased CIA involvement in domestic security. Uniparty proceeding unabated.

 

[bradleygator]

Here he is twisting arms to keep Mike Johnson as speaker. Will Johnson defy the Uniparty or is Trump signing up? Anyone want to take bets?