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NonGator Terrible tragedy in New Orleans

Pick a source they all have reported it.....again I stated IF what is being reported is true this has zero to do with the borders. Based upon what other member here had posted earlier
Agree, it may not be border related - at least not directly and perhaps not at all.

I'm more concerned about the ISIS piece . . . that ideology is incompatible with our way of life & we ignore it at our peril.
 
The Sugar Bowl is being postponed? I thought I just heard the announcers in the Texas game stating so and they are just getting word.
 
Pick a source they all have reported it.....again I stated IF what is being reported is true this has zero to do with the borders. Based upon what other member here had posted earlier
Even if true there’s no arguing the fact we have an untold number of bad actors in the country unaccounted for, we can expect more of this in the future, whether from radicalized US citizens or unvetted folks coming through a porous border

We’ll all entitled to our opinions but the border will prove to be a pain point, already is from a financial perspective as well as the senseless murders that have already taken place across the country. We spend hundreds of billions annually now over our borders crisis
 
Stop. Please.

The truck used in the attack that killed at least 10 people in New Orleans on New Year’s Day was listed on the car rental site Turo, the vehicle’s owner told CNN in a text message.

Two federal law enforcement officials also told CNN the truck did not belong to the suspect. One of the sources added it was rented on a site that owners use to rent out their own cars.

The vehicle, a white Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck, is registered to a Houston man who has worked for the car dealership where the vehicle was sold, according to public records based on the vehicle’s license plate. The man told CNN the vehicle was listed on Turo, a website that allows owners to rent out their vehicles to other people.

The driver of the truck was an American citizen from Houston.
ESPN commentators for the UT - ASU game just spent the last 2 minutes letting the audience know the Sugar Bowl is going to be postponed due to the TERRORIST attack. Why would they announce this live on a nationally televised game calling it a terrorist attack?
 
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From everything I just read and of course this is my opinion. Situation seems most similar to Timothy McVey right now except he probably got foreign terrorists to help fund and participate which is the type of person American or not that extremists prey on to do their horrific acts. If you have read up or watched all the intel on OKC then you know that McVey had way more help than just the bomb maker and most likely American anti-government groups were most definitely involved due to Ruby Ridge and Waco. This is the same way gangs get their pawns or similar to White Citizen Councils in the deep South using the poor, disgruntled and ignorant to do their bidding while all the classy white collar folks actually made the decisions during the Jim Crow era.
 
Even if true there’s no arguing the fact we have an untold number of bad actors in the country unaccounted for, we can expect more of this in the future, whether from radicalized US citizens or unvetted folks coming through a porous border

We’ll all entitled to our opinions but the border will prove to be a pain point, already is from a financial perspective as well as the senseless murders that have already taken place across the country. We spend hundreds of billions annually now over our borders crisis
Entirely different subject....you should create a thread on that
 
Pick a source they all have reported it.....again I stated IF what is being reported is true this has zero to do with the borders. Based upon what other member here had posted earlier
It can have to do with our border if it was a coordinated, planned attack. Was the killer tied to something larger than his own beliefs? This unfolding investigation will yield a lot more than what we laypeople know now. Need to wait and see.
 
It can have to do with our border if it was a coordinated, planned attack. Was the killer tied to something larger than his own beliefs? This unfolding investigation will yield a lot more than what we laypeople know now. Need to wait and see.
Not to mention I have heard from people in Texas that the culture there has changed; a ton of bad actors in the state who do not have our values.
 
It can have to do with our border if it was a coordinated, planned attack. Was the killer tied to something larger than his own beliefs? This unfolding investigation will yield a lot more than what we laypeople know now. Need to wait and see.
Sure, it can have something to do with our border because the truck was probably manufactured in Mexico and imported into the country for Ford. People are so quick to jump to conclusions before the facts are even out. I’m not saying this wasn’t an awful, hideous terrorist attack. But so far the evidence has shown it was a truck available for anybody to rent on Turo, the idiot who perpetrated this crime was an American citizen and anything else that’s spewed out without the facts is just speculation.
 
I’m not a “MAGA” guy, by the way. Fox’s reporter only cited source that the truck crossed the border in November driven by someone other than the New Orleans driver. I never identified the driver’s birth country, name or background. I subscribe to the WSJ, NYT, a Gannett online newspaper, a statewide North Carolina printed paper, and routinely watch a variety of news stations ranging from conservative to liberal. I’m an old UF journalism product who predates activist journalism and from a very old newspaper lineage. Think whatever you want.

The same Fox News that paid almost a Billion dollars in a civil suit that admited they openly lie to their viewers and are an entertainment network.

I mean, why believe anything they initially report, as in anything when they admit they lie. And now X and all thesecother folks ran with it, Trump posted it and said it was a "border" issue.


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c'mon man. I believe what you wrote above, but why post what Faux News post?
 
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It can have to do with our border if it was a coordinated, planned attack. Was the killer tied to something larger than his own beliefs? This unfolding investigation will yield a lot more than what we laypeople know now. Need to wait and see.
Again all speculation, based upon the facts that are being reported it has nothing to do with border policies. Again, that is an entirely different subject and should have it's own thread. You should create that
 
The same Fix News thatvpaid almost a Billion dollarsxin a civil suit that admited they openly lie to their viewers and arexan entertainment network.

I mean, why believe anything they initially report. I mean anything when they admit they lie. And now X and all thesecother folks ran with it, Trump posted it and said it was a "border" issue.


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c'mon man. I believe what you wrote above, but why post what Faux News post?
Literally all major news networks lie or drive false narratives. Doesn’t mean can’t cite their reporting.
 
The same Fix News thatvpaid almost a Billion dollarsxin a civil suit that admited they openly lie to their viewers and arexan entertainment network.

I mean, why believe anything they initially report. I mean anything when they admit they lie. And now X and all thesecother folks ran with it, Trump posted it and said it was a "border" issue.


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c'mon man. I believe what you wrote above, but why post what Faux News post?
All news is faux my friend

It is a lost art, it’s now propaganda and misinformation

Journalism is now a joke, no offense to our sites writers
 
Literally all major news networks lie or drive false narratives. Doesn’t mean can’t cite their reporting.

Yeah ok. If you believe that, and compare what Fox does. Then continue to believe dumb 💩 they post. What they posted has been debunked in a mattercof hours, again.

But yeah, I see what you're saying it is the same.
 
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Yes, try the failed networks like CNN and MSDNC. They're both so reputable. Lol
You mean the networks that for four years spewed BS about a Russia collusion when they knew it wasn’t true or the ones that stated the laptop was a Russian operation or the ones that said One Nut Joe was as fit as a fiddle, not those networks, no way
 
Not to mention I have heard from people in Texas that the culture there has changed; a ton of bad actors in the state who do not have our values.
Culture in the big cities has changed. The rest of the state is still Texas. The last 4 years have been an invasion of our state. Those coming in are from many other places than Mexico.
 
Yeah ok. If you believe that, and compare what Fox does. Then continue to believe dumb 💩 they post. What they posted has been debunked in a mattercof hours, again.

But yeah, I see what you're saying it is the same.
So you really want to argue about the integrity of news networks, I can give you a dozen ridiculous news stories run over the last 8 years that have all been proven to be untrue and while they spent those years insisting it was true they knew all along the story was BS

If ratings matter it’s apparent CNN, mSNBC and even prime time news outlets are in trouble
 
Wrong. Fox cited federal sources - - the FBI. I’ve met illegals here who’ve easily acquired drivers’ licenses. For years, too, I saw illegals dropped off outside my office windows. None spoke English and each carried a hard-built suitcase. Two trucks would shortly arrive. The driver of a late model Ford would get out, trade the key for the suitcase and climb into the passenger side of the other pick-up and drive off. The new arrival meantime would climb behind the wheel of the white Ford and drive away. This happened repeatedly.

Radical Libs don’t like sources. They get in the way of their slanted outtakes of blame.
 
This is a tragedy that is actively being investigated so let’s all take a step back before we get all excited about this reinforcing any polical beliefs.

Also important to remember that the act of one person or a group of people is not an indictment on everyone that looks like them
 
So you really want to argue about the integrity of news networks, I can give you a dozen ridiculous news stories run over the last 8 years that have all been proven to be untrue and while they spent those years insisting it was true they knew all along the story was BS

If ratings matter it’s apparent CNN, mSNBC and even prime time news outlets are in trouble
2004: "Fake but accurate"


2024: "ChEaP fAkEs!!! Best Biden ever and EFF YOU IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!"


Blatant attempts to influence elections by media for their preferred candidates. Then there are the more subtle attempts to influence and misinform like the NYT including a picture of a building under the headline about Israeli missile strike on hospital killing hundreds. Only problem was the building pictured was not said hospital. Oh and of course it wasn't an Israeli missile....it was a misfired rocket from within Gaza. Oh and it only took 7 years for the fact check to come out re "fine people on both sides" in Charlottesville circa 2017. Of course anyone who read an actual transcript of Trump's statement knew that in 2017. All that said, it fascinating watching folks in their echo chambers.
 
The same Fix News thatvpaid almost a Billion dollarsxin a civil suit that admited they openly lie to their viewers and arexan entertainment network.

I mean, why believe anything they initially report. I mean anything when they admit they lie. And now X and all thesecother folks ran with it, Trump posted it and said it was a "border" issue.


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c'mon man. I believe what you wrote above, but why post what Faux News post?
Thanks for asking. Much earlier and throughout the day I’ve watched ABC News, the BBC. Fox News, the Wall Street Journal online, the New York Times’s multiple reports and updates. Another poster innocently asked where I heard (or read?) about information on the truck. I honestly replied, a Fox News reporter citing an FBI report. I could have gotten the information from any number of other outlets reporting on this horrific tragedy but in flipping channels saw it there first. I watch virtually everything that covers these stories because I don’t trust any of them to report accurately or without political bias. At that point, that was all the information the FBI or local police had reported.

I much regret this post has turned into anything political or posters attacking me or anyone, something I have not done to another person. Our focus should be primarily on the blow to victims, their families and to our nation, regardless of the source of the assault.

My wife and I have strong, deep attachment to New Orleans where I worked right out from graduating from UF. We in effect started our married life there, building friendships and enduring ties there. She worked in a boutique chain bookstore on Royal Street ss their children’s literature specialist. She got off and on the NOPSI bus exactly at Bourbon Street and Canal Street as a commuter from our apartment near Notre Dame Seminary. We both were at that intersection countless times. Our affection for New Orleans runs deep.
 
So you really want to argue about the integrity of news networks, I can give you a dozen ridiculous news stories run over the last 8 years that have all been proven to be untrue and while they spent those years insisting it was true they knew all along the story was BS

If ratings matter it’s apparent CNN, mSNBC and even prime time news outlets are in trouble

And I can post 100s of articles by Faux news that can be debunked by actual facts.

What's your point, one was sued and admitted they purposely lie to their audience and aren't a news network. Has any other one did that?

We can piss in the wind all day. Me and others on here aren't going to change your mind, nor will you change ours. Faux News reported it was a border issue implying the guy was an illegal and crossed the border 2 days ago.

He is an U.S. citizen, former Army Vet from Texas. Yeah, continue with the debate as to what news source is more believable.
 
This story is just crazy so far....I'm surprised that didn't postpone the Sugar Bowl for a longer period...very sad
 
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This story is just crazy so far....I'm surprised that didn't postpone the Sugar Bowl for a longer period...very sad
I am too but so many people came into town to watch that game so moving it to say Saturday would have a huge impact on the fans there to watch the game. Tough situation for sure.
 
“Fear mongering”….its disturbing that this could happen regardless of where this individual is from. I think “fear mongering” was a poor categorization.

Oh, never fear guys….US citizen. All good here.
Yes it’s disturbing,

It’s also disturbing that nut jobs immediately look to blame immigrants every time a tragedy takes place. I didn’t make it political … other posters did. But if low intellect people want to use this tragedy for cheap political points…. Have at it.
 
Thanks for asking. Much earlier and throughout the day I’ve watched ABC News, the BBC. Fox News, the Wall Street Journal online, the New York Times’s multiple reports and updates. Another poster innocently asked where I heard (or read?) about information on the truck. I honestly replied, a Fox News reporter citing an FBI report. I could have gotten the information from any number of other outlets reporting on this horrific tragedy but in flipping channels saw it there first. I watch virtually everything that covers these stories because I don’t trust any of them to report accurately or without political bias. At that point, that was all the information the FBI or local police had reported.

I much regret this post has turned into anything political or posters attacking me or anyone, something I have not done to another person. Our focus should be primarily on the blow to victims, their families and to our nation, regardless of the source of the assault.

My wife and I have strong, deep attachment to New Orleans where I worked right out from graduating from UF. We in effect started our married life there, building friendships and enduring ties there. She worked in a boutique chain bookstore on Royal Street ss their children’s literature specialist. She got off and on the NOPSI bus exactly at Bourbon Street and Canal Street as a commuter from our apartment near Notre Dame Seminary. We both were at that intersection countless times. Our affection for New Orleans runs deep.

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If my post came off as attacking you. My apologies. Not my intent.
 
right up there with the gang only took over a few apartment buildings ...

Well, if it only a few, then that's just peachy ... right?
Not an immigrant who “crossed the border” Brad, I’m just correcting the spread of false information. Do you have a problem with that or do you prefer to live in your own delusion?
 
I am too but so many people came into town to watch that game so moving it to say Saturday would have a huge impact on the fans there to watch the game. Tough situation for sure.
Yeah, most definitely....not to mention the winning team has to play a week later....very tough. They haven't even removed the bodies from Bourbon Street as of yet. And they are still sweeping for more IEDs
 
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