Supreme Court rejects hearing on Vaccine mandates

[kalimgoodman]

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Supreme Court leaves intact Indiana University’s vaccination requirement

The Supreme Court on Thursday left intact Indiana University’s requirement that students be vaccinated against COVID-19 before attending classes this fall.The ruling was issued unilaterally b…

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[gator1776]

No surprise here. Vaccine mandates has pretty much been established long for decades.

 

[kalimgoodman]

No surprise here. Vaccine mandates has pretty much been established long for decades.

That's why this entire debate is crazy to me. Some people are acting like this is new or some kind of government/business take over.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Fascist behavior always makes the dems horny.

 

[fatman76]

That's why this entire debate is crazy to me. Some people are acting like this is new or some kind of government/business take over.

Title is a bit misleading. One judge acted unilaterally, it wasn’t the entire court. And she didn’t rule on it, it’s another example of judicial restraint.

That said the debate surrounds the level of approval the vaccines haven’t received and the fact we’re being given the mushroom treatment when it comes to adverse events from the vaccines.

But legal precedent favors mandates, I’m not sure anyone would have argued that. Doesn’t mean it’s something we all go along with willingly.

 

[gator1776]

That's why this entire debate is crazy to me. Some people are acting like this is new or some kind of government/business take over.

Look, the current government is greatly failing our country and there is a cultural takeover of our country from the rest of the world that keeps flooding into our country and changing what it was and what it is and what it will be. They don’t need the vaccines to do this they are doing it through many other avenues like the infrastructure bill and the green energy policy that’s destroying our country while creating a economic boom for other countries.

Our country is controlled by a few mega rich intellectual elites that think they know what’s best for the rest of us and it will destroy the United States the last great bastion of freedom and it’s sad. But they don’t need a vaccine mandate to do that.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Title is a bit misleading. One judge acted unilaterally, it wasn’t the entire court. And she didn’t rule on it, it’s another example of judicial restraint.

That said the debate surrounds the level of approval the vaccines haven’t received and the fact we’re being given the mushroom treatment when it comes to adverse events from the vaccines.

But legal precedent favors mandates, I’m not sure anyone would have argued that. Doesn’t mean it’s something we all go along with willingly.

Do you think after it's approval more hesitant people will get it?

 

[kalimgoodman]

Look, the current government is greatly failing our country and there is a cultural takeover of our country from the rest of the world that keeps flooding into our country and changing what it was and what it is and what it will be. They don’t need the vaccines to do this they are doing it through many other avenues like the infrastructure bill and the green energy policy that’s destroying our country while creating a economic boom for other countries.

Our country is controlled by a few mega rich intellectual elites that think they know what’s best for the rest of us and it will destroy the United States the last great bastion of freedom and it’s sad. But they don’t need a vaccine wants to do that.

I'm just talking about vaccine mandates.

 

[gator1776]

I'm just talking about vaccine mandates.

I know what you were talking about, and I’m pointing out they don’t need vaccine mandates they’re already doing what others are alluding to quite effectively to multiple other mechanisms.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I know what you were talking about, and I’m pointing out they don’t need vaccine mandates they’re already doing what others are alluding to quite effectively to multiple other mechanisms.

Right, smoke and mirrors by the Marxist regimes currently running our country.

 

[fatman76]

Do you think after it's approval more hesitant people will get it?

100% yes.

I don't trust the FDA for shit but it would be a huge step for me personally. They are bureaucrats and they have steps they follow to review drugs for approval. That's better than nothing.

Google 'Novavax vaccine trials'. Check out the criteria for participation. Look at how long they want to monitor your health after the shot(s).

Safe and effective vaccines take time to develop. It took decades to develop the Polio vaccine and a few more decades to inoculate the population. Granted, we've come a long way since then - and I still consider the fact that even if some vaccines are showing 42% efficacy it's a medical miracle we have them. But this timetable is unprecedented. Couple that with the mushroom treatment on adverse effects, the intense pressure from a gov't many distrust and you have to understand some people are going to be on the fence. Fight Covid toe to toe or cross your fingers and enter a late stage vaccine trial...both have unknown levels of risk.

 

[NavigatorII]

Look, the current government is greatly failing our country and there is a cultural takeover of our country from the rest of the world that keeps flooding into our country and changing what it was and what it is and what it will be. They don’t need the vaccines to do this they are doing it through many other avenues like the infrastructure bill and the green energy policy that’s destroying our country while creating a economic boom for other countries.

Our country is controlled by a few mega rich intellectual elites that think they know what’s best for the rest of us and it will destroy the United States the last great bastion of freedom and it’s sad. But they don’t need a vaccine mandate to do that.

Anyone watching the fiasco at the border knows the present ,Gov doesn't give a shit about our country. It's like watching the tv series, The Walking Dead. Walkers abound......and dear Biden is the leader of the Whisperers.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Title is a bit misleading.

It's a @kalimgoodman thread.

 

[NavigatorII]

It's a @kalimgoodman thread.

Kind of odd that an independent would cheer on fascism.

 

[BSC911]

100% yes.

I don't trust the FDA for shit but it would be a huge step for me personally. They are bureaucrats and they have steps they follow to review drugs for approval. That's better than nothing.

Google 'Novavax vaccine trials'. Check out the criteria for participation. Look at how long they want to monitor your health after the shot(s).

Safe and effective vaccines take time to develop. It took decades to develop the Polio vaccine and a few more decades to inoculate the population. Granted, we've come a long way since then - and I still consider the fact that even if some vaccines are showing 42% efficacy it's a medical miracle we have them. But this timetable is unprecedented. Couple that with the mushroom treatment on adverse effects, the intense pressure from a gov't many distrust and you have to understand some people are going to be on the fence. Fight Covid toe to toe or cross your fingers and enter a late stage vaccine trial...both have unknown levels of risk.

But Trump developed the vaccine himself. Don’t you trust him?

 

[kalimgoodman]

I know what you were talking about, and I’m pointing out they don’t need vaccine mandates they’re already doing what others are alluding to quite effectively to multiple other mechanisms.

We lost that battle with the patriot act.

 

[kalimgoodman]

100% yes.

I don't trust the FDA for shit but it would be a huge step for me personally. They are bureaucrats and they have steps they follow to review drugs for approval. That's better than nothing.

Google 'Novavax vaccine trials'. Check out the criteria for participation. Look at how long they want to monitor your health after the shot(s).

Safe and effective vaccines take time to develop. It took decades to develop the Polio vaccine and a few more decades to inoculate the population. Granted, we've come a long way since then - and I still consider the fact that even if some vaccines are showing 42% efficacy it's a medical miracle we have them. But this timetable is unprecedented. Couple that with the mushroom treatment on adverse effects, the intense pressure from a gov't many distrust and you have to understand some people are going to be on the fence. Fight Covid toe to toe or cross your fingers and enter a late stage vaccine trial...both have unknown levels of risk.

Interesting. I'll definitely monitor that.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

But Trump developed the vaccine himself. Don’t you trust him?

So you took the Trump vaccine? You feeling ok?

 

[gator1776]

We lost that battle with the patriot act.

Probably dates back further than that.

 

[BCSpell]

Do you think after it's approval more hesitant people will get it?

Not all, but I do think you will see a large % of unvaxxed go once its offically approved.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

100% yes.

I don't trust the FDA for shit but it would be a huge step for me personally. They are bureaucrats and they have steps they follow to review drugs for approval. That's better than nothing.

Google 'Novavax vaccine trials'. Check out the criteria for participation. Look at how long they want to monitor your health after the shot(s).

Safe and effective vaccines take time to develop. It took decades to develop the Polio vaccine and a few more decades to inoculate the population. Granted, we've come a long way since then - and I still consider the fact that even if some vaccines are showing 42% efficacy it's a medical miracle we have them. But this timetable is unprecedented. Couple that with the mushroom treatment on adverse effects, the intense pressure from a gov't many distrust and you have to understand some people are going to be on the fence. Fight Covid toe to toe or cross your fingers and enter a late stage vaccine trial...both have unknown levels of risk.

This^^^the FDA would approve poison for human consumption if you simply list the side-effects. That's why people are wary that the side-effects are being withheld. If they (vaccines) are completely safe then why would the FDA not approve them?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Not all, but I do think you will see a large % of unvaxxed go once its offically approved.

If they have to list the side affects (And I believe that's a requirement for FDA approval), then it will not convince a lot of people on the fence to get vaccinated. I think it will confirm to them that they were smart to STAY on the fence.

 

[fatman76]

If they have to list the side affects (And I believe that's a requirement for FDA approval), then it will not convince a lot of people on the fence to get vaccinated. I think it will confirm to them that they were smart to STAY on the fence.

Maybe, but if my dick is likely to fall off I'd like to know that beforehand.

Just treat me like a damn adult and let me decide which risk to take.

 

[instaGATOR]

If the Z generation had any guts and understood the Constitution and what true FREEDOM requires, they would all simply walk off campus and let the institutions drown in their own socialist stupidity....

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” -- President Ronald Reagan