So, how many people predicted we could go 2-2 to close out the year?

[MJWilliamson]

Especially @ Baton Rouge. Yea, we got blown out in two of those game. And that hurts like hell. But we did win two other important games.

Not lost in all this is that Shannon called a damn fine defense for much of the game, with limited resources. I feel a bit better about the defense next year, with the contributions some very young players on defense have made for most of the year..

And if Appleby was just a bit better, we score a bunch more points today.

Hopefully either Trask or Franks will use the next 8 months to learn how to be a SEC QB

 

[Michi-Gator]

Especially @ Baton Rouge. Yea, we got blown out in two of those game. And that hurts like hell. But we did win two other important games.

Not lost in all this is that Shannon called a damn fine defense for much of the game, with limited resources. I feel a bit better about the defense next year, with the contributions some very young players on defense have made for most of the year..

And if Appleby was just a bit better, we score a bunch more points today.

Hopefully either Trask or Franks will use the next 8 months to learn how to be a SEC QB

Come on now. We lose this and it was meaningless, lets not overdue beating a slow, middle of the pack B1G team.

Some young defensers did look pretty good, specifically Joseph. And Shannon was always better than Collins, I think a lot of people knew that.

We ran the ball pretty well today but the offense as a whole did not look great.

But you also hit on another big point, we are still a long ways from belonging on the field with FSU and Bama, especially since we do lose a lot pf defensive talent

 

[Gator Fever]

Especially @ Baton Rouge. Yea, we got blown out in two of those game. And that hurts like hell. But we did win two other important games.

Not lost in all this is that Shannon called a damn fine defense for much of the game, with limited resources. I feel a bit better about the defense next year, with the contributions some very young players on defense have made for most of the year..

And if Appleby was just a bit better, we score a bunch more points today.

Hopefully either Trask or Franks will use the next 8 months to learn how to be a SEC QB

The experience will help but the offense will have to come through finally some for this team to even stay around a 4 loss team. We are losing some big talent on defense.

 

[MJWilliamson]

The young guys on defense have stepped up big for us all year.

 

[Michi-Gator]

The young guys on defense have stepped up big for us all year.

Yup. And if some how Anzalone can come back healthy and Harris and Dawson stay we will be alright. Might struggle a little up front but better than I thought. Reese will need a couple speedier LBs next to him for him to be fully effective.

 

[Gator Fever]

Yup. And if some how Anzalone can come back healthy and Harris and Dawson stay we will be alright. Might struggle a little up front but better than I thought. Reese will need a couple speedier LBs next to him for him to be fully effective.

Our main problem for next year is our talented D linemen returning are almost all DE size guys.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Our main problem for next year is our talented D linemen returning are almost all DE size guys.

Miami made a living on that

 

[Panhandle Slim1]

If QB play isn't better. It doesn't matter what happens at the other 21 positions. It will be 3-4 losses minimum

 

[MJWilliamson]

If QB play isn't better. It doesn't matter what happens at the other 21 positions. It will be 3-4 losses minimum

What was your prediction for this year?

 

[oozie7]

Pretty much did. Thought we'd beat FSU and lose to LSU so pretty much even.

 

[GatorNation79]

Especially @ Baton Rouge. Yea, we got blown out in two of those game. And that hurts like hell. But we did win two other important games.

Not lost in all this is that Shannon called a damn fine defense for much of the game, with limited resources. I feel a bit better about the defense next year, with the contributions some very young players on defense have made for most of the year..

And if Appleby was just a bit better, we score a bunch more points today.

Hopefully either Trask or Franks will use the next 8 months to learn how to be a SEC QB

I didn't think that we would be LSU and winning big today was pretty great. Also 2 of those INT's from Appleby were WR's fault. I thought that he played pretty well today and IMO he should have been the starter all year.

 

[GatorNation79]

I just want to know who will be starting at QB next year and see how we finish out recruiting. For that, we will have to wait...9-4 season and would have been 10-4 if we didn't miss a game...it was a successful year IMO...hasn't been pretty but I didn't expect it to be.

We'll see what happens next year. Certainly we need to see more explosive plays on offense and some blocked punts/kicks and returns for TD's. Hoping that we finish strong in recruiting.

 

[bradleygator]

Good win for coach and the team. Loved the way guys were flying around and making plays. All in all 9-4 with a pretty good bowl win, factoring in that we dominated a decent opponent in a good New Years bowl, a win over UGA and win at LSU is a pretty solid showing. Hopefully we get a little bounce in recruiting.

 

[Countygator]

Now he needs to salvage recruuting

 

[Panhandle Slim1]

What was your prediction for this year?

Don't think I made one

 

[keyzer soze]

You're asking the wrong question MJ. The question is why are so many pessimistic? Why didn't all of us say 4-0 or 3-1 like we would have between 1990-2010?

Again just because we all thought this would be a 4 loss season or worse doesn't make it ok that we're losing 4 games a year. Meanwhile, getting skull stomped by the good teams on the schedule EVERY SINGLE TIME WE PLAY THEM!

 

[Dannygator1989]

You're asking the wrong question MJ. The question is why are so many pessimistic? Why didn't all of us say 4-0 or 3-1 like we would have between 1990-2010?

Again just because we all thought this would be a 4 loss season or worse doesn't make it ok that we're losing 4 games a year. Meanwhile, getting skull stomped by the good teams on the schedule EVERY SINGLE TIME WE PLAY THEM!

Im not sure it's pessimistic as much as it is realistic.

We have too many injuries to overcome every short coming.

If you thought we would go 4-0, that's crazy. 3-1 should have been reasonable but it looks like FSU actually has been better late this season than many gave them credit for.

 

[keyzer soze]

Im not sure it's pessimistic as much as it is realistic.

We have too many injuries to overcome every short coming.

If you thought we would go 4-0, that's crazy. 3-1 should have been reasonable but it looks like FSU actually has been better late this season than many gave them credit for.

It is realistic. That is the problem. We are mediocre and middle of the pack. In talent, in coaching, in predictions, in results and in recruiting we are a middling team.

Look up at Bama, you may need a telescope, that used to be us. For a long time we sat on top. This isn't a bump in the road anymore. It's a 7 year trend, and it looks to continue.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Our main problem for next year is our talented D linemen returning are almost all DE size guys.

3 concerns on D:

1. DT

2. When you have two elite CB like Tabor and Wilson everybody else's job is easier. We'll see how we adjust to that.

3. Depth. We are a significant injury away from having a huge whole on D next year.

All the good hingrs on Anzalone, Harris and Dawson returning. Word is Townshend is leaving early, that could hurt our safe style as well.

 

[Michi-Gator]

It is realistic. That is the problem. We are mediocre and middle of the pack. In talent, in coaching, in predictions, in results and in recruiting we are a middling team.

Look up at Bama, you may need a telescope, that used to be us. For a long time we sat on top. This isn't a bump in the road anymore. It's a 7 year trend, and it looks to continue.

Exactly, and the trajectoey seems to be headed in the wrong direction.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Some people just like to be miserable, I guess.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Some people just like to be miserable, I guess.

Instead of this nonsense, share what is happening at UF that makes you think we are closing the gap on FSU and Bama

 

[Dannygator1989]

Instead of this nonsense, share what is happening at UF that makes you think we are closing the gap on FSU and Bama

I love when you throw yhisvout at people.

Like you're doing that or something.

Every single post is doom and gloom and reminders that we're going to suck on defense (for reasons that are only "we're losing some champs guys and Mac's guys suck).

You are miserable. Telling other people to act like you is just another example. I haven't a clue why you obsess on bringing others down.

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[instaGATOR]

Well, I predicted 9 wins for the season, with 10-11 possible with a little luck. That's the same as my 1st year prediction. Few were with me on that in either year, media-morons or even the fans. While Luck has thumbed it's injury nose at me...

If they give Franks-Trask-Allen an even shot at winning the starting job, then UF will be back on track to regain it's full glory imo.

However, IF they say,,, bring in yet another retread QB like a Zaire, or GIVE the job back to LDR, then I'm slappin' a limburger cheese pie in their idiot faces....

 

[Michi-Gator]

Well, I predicted 9 wins for the season, with 10-11 possible with a little luck. That's the same as my 1st year prediction. Few were with me on that in either year, media-morons or even the fans. While Luck has thumbed it's injury nose at me...

If they give Franks-Trask-Allen an even shot at winning the starting job, then UF will be back on track to regain it's full glory imo.

However, IF they say,,, bring in yet another retread QB like a Zaire, or GIVE the job back to LDR, then I'm slappin' a limburger cheese pie in their idiot faces....

It appears they are working hard to land a grad transfer. I cannot see Allen getting a shot as a true Fr after they passed on the two this year. And if he runs LDR out there to start the season I think a riot will ensue among most of Gator Nation. However, I think Mac knows that so Inwould be shocked to see LDR start the MeatChicken game

Another reason I don't think we see Allen is every 2017 QB we are trying to flip or top 2018 QB we are after are either dual-threat or significantly mobile QBs. I really think that Allen is going to be the odd man out as both Franks and Trask are much more mobile

 

[instaGATOR]

Without the Hurricane debacle, Mc now has Back-2-Back 10 win seasons.
That's an 'IN YOUR FACE' performance for all of his doubters and nay-sayers.

I still like Trask, and Allen is certainly the 'long-shot' but I'm not ruling any of them out. If Franks can truly WIN the starting job at QB, then I'm fine with that. I based my Trask pick over Franks based on what I saw in the Spring game.
The next Spring game should show us which has progressed the most so far.
I know one thing though, if they have to pull the ball down and take off, Trask at 6-4 235 4.6/40 is the far and away better runner (mobility) of the group.

Is Allen an early enrollee? If not, then his chances drop down significantly imo.
To me, Allen looks a lot like Grier did as an incoming Fr, so you never know.

 

[fsu939913]

2 and 2 is not bad for a team playing without a real qb

 

[Countygator]

The good news is unless a catastrophic event occurs, there will be football next year

 

[MJWilliamson]

The good news is unless a catastrophic event occurs, there will be football next year

And Florida WILL field a football team

 

[instaGATOR]

And Michi is likely to continue with his constant nay-Sayer whining....
(as homer-insta continues to flail the mule that's pulling the bandwagon)

 

[NavigatorII]

I love when you throw yhisvout at people.

Like you're doing that or something.

Every single post is doom and gloom and reminders that we're going to suck on defense (for reasons that are only "we're losing some champs guys and Mac's guys suck).

You are miserable. Telling other people to act like you is just another example. I haven't a clue why you obsess on bringing others down.

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I agree many here aren't in touch with reality. If UF had a solid QB this season (think back only as far as Grier) and a couple more big talented offensive linemen, there is no telling how this season couldn't have been wildly successful. I don't get why so many want Mac gone, he's turned a lot of piss into wine. I'm not a fan of Nuss but let's see what he can do with a QB and line that isn't less talented than say Furman. Muschamp left the offense in a MESS. I think Mac does more with less talent on offense than anyone gives him credit for, but the fail mainly it's been in pass protection and QB talent. Supposedly we have 2 young guys that have an unlimited ceiling at QB, so we'll see next year. Win 10 or 11 games next year and the talent pool will overflow in future recruiting.

 

[instaGATOR]

Halla-freakin-loouya.

Another Gator fan with a functioning brain and a positive outlook arrives...

 

[keyzer soze]

I agree many here aren't in touch with reality. If UF had a solid QB this season (think back only as far as Grier) and a couple more big talented offensive linemen, there is no telling how this season couldn't have been wildly successful. I don't get why so many want Mac gone, he's turned a lot of piss into wine. I'm not a fan of Nuss but let's see what he can do with a QB and line that isn't less talented than say Furman. Muschamp left the offense in a MESS. I think Mac does more with less talent on offense than anyone gives him credit for, but the fail mainly it's been in pass protection and QB talent. Supposedly we have 2 young guys that have an unlimited ceiling at QB, so we'll see next year. Win 10 or 11 games next year and the talent pool will overflow in future recruiting.

Understand this; it's not Mac that I dislike per se. It's the scheme. He's not much of a recruiter and he's never going to recruit enough talent to beat Bama or fsu with the current playbook. If he doesn't recruit a dual threat QB (and it can definitely be a pass first guy like Chad Kelly) and get with the modern age of football, then the future on offense is VERY limited.
For a guy who doesn't excel at recruiting, the talent pool for pro style QBs is way too shallow for Mac. There just aren't any HIgh Schools running pro style anymore

 

[keyzer soze]

And before you bring up Grier, it's been widely reported that del rio would have started over him last year if eligible

 

[oozie7]

I think you could argue that we've overachieved some if you use preseason expectations from media people as the base of that argument. But I disagree with that partly because we've only beaten maybe 1-2 teams we shouldn't have (Ole Miss and LSU) from a talent standpoint. But beyond that our margin of defeat in losses to ranked teams is 3 TD's. So far under Mac we beat the teams we're supposed to and get blown out by anyone decent, that's the exact opposite of overachieving. If anything, its holding serve. I also don't understand how you can make the argument Mac has made wine out of piss offensively. The only way you could logically make that argument is if you feel that there are 100+ teams with better offensive talent than us and that's just absurd even with some of our holes. We have offensive recruits that could have named their school and yet we finished 13th in the SEC in offense behind schools like Vandy who don't have any offensive recruits that could play for us. Our offensive ranking actually went backwards this year and ultimately finished 116th despite facing numerous defenses who are in the bottom half in the country. That isn't making wine out of piss.

And objectively, we've had the most talented defense had in CFB as well. We have as much as 4 players this year alone projected to go in the top 20 picks. And last year we sent how many guys to the league that were instant starters? Two first rounders off the top of my head in VHII and Neal in addition to guys like Poole who start for the Falcons. We've had holes on this roster, especially offensively, but please stop with the narrative that the roster was some kind of dumpster fire. There's been good, there's been bad. The bowl win was a step in the right direction now we need to close recruiting and continue to build.

 

[kellylexy]

Especially @ Baton Rouge. Yea, we got blown out in two of those game. And that hurts like hell. But we did win two other important games.

Not lost in all this is that Shannon called a damn fine defense for much of the game, with limited resources. I feel a bit better about the defense next year, with the contributions some very young players on defense have made for most of the year..

And if Appleby was just a bit better, we score a bunch more points today.

Hopefully either Trask or Franks will use the next 8 months to learn how to be a SEC QB

I agree many here aren't in touch with reality. If UF had a solid QB this season (think back only as far as Grier) and a couple more big talented offensive linemen, there is no telling how this season couldn't have been wildly successful. I don't get why so many want Mac gone, he's turned a lot of piss into wine. I'm not a fan of Nuss but let's see what he can do with a QB and line that isn't less talented than say Furman. Muschamp left the offense in a MESS. I think Mac does more with less talent on offense than anyone gives him credit for, but the fail mainly it's been in pass protection and QB talent. Supposedly we have 2 young guys that have an unlimited ceiling at QB, so we'll see next year. Win 10 or 11 games next year and the talent pool will overflow in future recruiting.

I think the victory over Iowa and the back to back SECe championships has sealed Mac being with the Gators for at least another couple years. He finds ways to beat everyone on the schedule not named 'Bama or FSU. As he continues to build this program then I expect this program to start being much more competitive with FSU and Bama at the end of the season. LSU is still back tracking and the SECe does not look like it is going to get much better any time soon.....maybe uga with Smart recruiting well, but that happened with Richt as well with little effect when it was time to play UF.

 

[oozie7]

Richt recruited real well, but not as good as Smart is now. I'm pretty sure they had the highest or second highest rated transition class ever (USC with Kiffin was top 5 I believe) and their class this year is on a Bama level. But Richt is a better coach so that probably evens out.

 

[dnole]

Glad you went 2-2 in the last 2 games. See you next later this year for another epic showdown.

Iowa stinks.

You have no solid QB for next year.

Your recruiting is tepid at best.

You are so far behind most teams you play annually in recruiting, it will take 2-3 years to catch up if even possible.

You're losing a lot to early NFL entries that will have a huge impact in 2017..

You will lose to Michigan in the season opener 2017.

And the beat goes on...

 

[Dannygator1989]

Glad you went 2-2 in the last 2 games. See you next later this year for another epic showdown.

Iowa stinks.

You have no solid QB for next year.

Your recruiting is tepid at best.

You are so far behind most teams you play annually in recruiting, it will take 2-3 years to catch up if even possible.

You're losing a lot to early NFL entries that will have a huge impact in 2017..

You will lose to Michigan in the season opener 2017.

And the beat goes on...

Why will we lose to Michigan?

 

[oozie7]

And how does he know we have no QB for next year? We all need to know he might be a visionary.