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Very well articulated. I can't defend his crass behavior but I can defend his promises kept to the voters. I really can't recall ever being able to say that about another President in my lifetime.

Same. I couldn't stand Trump during the primaries. I was at first a Carly Fiorina guy (cringe) then a Rubio guy (double cringe), then finally settled on Trump as the 'anyone but Hillary' candidate.

But the more I listened to what Trump had to say, the more it resonated with me. In fact, with a couple weeks before the election I started having serious doubts about Trump, because I realized he had literally promised everything under the moon! I thought 'there's no way he can do all this, even if he tries!" At the same time media was spinning that Trump knew he would lose, and this was all a ploy to launch his new network after he lost. I started wondering hmmmm.....maybe there's something to that?

Then the guy won and knocked out 90% of his campaign promises in the first year. All downhill since.
 
I was for Ted Cruz from the day he announced and I wrote him in on election day. This Reaganite will vote for Cruz any time he can. He is philosophically the closest thing to Reagan since Reagan. And to find any one else made of the same cloth you have to go back to Coolidge.

So these men are rare. 45 presidents and you have Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Monroe, Lincoln,Coolidge and Reagan being statesmen for the Republic and the Declaration.

Note: Alan Keyes held that moniker until Cruz came along. I voted for Keyes in the primaries twice.
 
Agree for the most part. Again it is the lesser of the 2 evils. But I don’t really think Trump gets anything done because he is too into himself. But I agree he’s better than Biden. I just think it is unfortunate that this is where we are at.
People truly don't get DJT. He is a brash "balls to the wall" NY guy, and as I've said many times, he never went to work in any place that did not have his name on the building. Many people can't grasp what that means in terms of how that has shaped him. How he acts, behaves, and got to where he is at the moment.
Because that's been his life up to now, and he sees that it's worked out okay up to this point, I'm thinking he has difficulty in accepting that this is the time to make huge changes.
I didn't hire him to be my pastor. I didn't vote for him to be my counselor and teach me tact or patience.
He's done the things he said he would do. That's embarrassing to people who have been in Washington for nearly 50 years and keep promising things they have little intention of doing. No wonder they hate him.
 
People truly don't get DJT. He is a brash "balls to the wall" NY guy, and as I've said many times, he never went to work in any place that did not have his name on the building. Many people can't grasp what that means in terms of how that has shaped him. How he acts, behaves, and got to where he is at the moment.
Because that's been his life up to now, and he sees that it's worked out okay up to this point, I'm thinking he has difficulty in accepting that this is the time to make huge changes.
I didn't hire him to be my pastor. I didn't vote for him to be my counselor and teach me tact or patience.
He's done the things he said he would do. That's embarrassing to people who have been in Washington for nearly 50 years and keep promising things they have little intention of doing. No wonder they hate him.
Hammer meets the nail.
 
I was for Ted Cruz from the day he announced and I wrote him in on election day. This Reaganite will vote for Cruz any time he can. He is philosophically the closest thing to Reagan since Reagan. And to find any one else made of the same cloth you have to go back to Coolidge.

So these men are rare. 45 presidents and you have Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Monroe, Lincoln,Coolidge and Reagan being statesmen for the Republic and the Declaration.

Note: Alan Keyes held that moniker until Cruz came along. I voted for Keyes in the primaries twice.

I liked Alan Keyes, he was a great candidate I thought. Cruz lost me when he did the robo calls for South Carolina I think, claiming that Ben Carson had just dropped out of the race after Iowa and to vote for him. Carson hadn't.

BTW I thought Carson was the best person by a mile running in 2016, just wasn't at all up to the task of being president IMO.
 
People truly don't get DJT. He is a brash "balls to the wall" NY guy, and as I've said many times, he never went to work in any place that did not have his name on the building. Many people can't grasp what that means in terms of how that has shaped him. How he acts, behaves, and got to where he is at the moment.
Because that's been his life up to now, and he sees that it's worked out okay up to this point, I'm thinking he has difficulty in accepting that this is the time to make huge changes.
I didn't hire him to be my pastor. I didn't vote for him to be my counselor and teach me tact or patience.
He's done the things he said he would do. That's embarrassing to people who have been in Washington for nearly 50 years and keep promising things they have little intention of doing. No wonder they hate him.

Lou Dobbs said it best, "We didn't vote for a nice guy, we voted for Donald 'Damn' Trump!"
 
I liked Alan Keyes, he was a great candidate I thought. Cruz lost me when he did the robo calls for South Carolina I think, claiming that Ben Carson had just dropped out of the race after Iowa and to vote for him. Carson hadn't.

BTW I thought Carson was the best person by a mile running in 2016, just wasn't at all up to the task of being president IMO.
Agree, Carson is the best man he's just not a natural-born leader.
 
I liked Alan Keyes, he was a great candidate I thought. Cruz lost me when he did the robo calls for South Carolina I think, claiming that Ben Carson had just dropped out of the race after Iowa and to vote for him. Carson hadn't.

BTW I thought Carson was the best person by a mile running in 2016, just wasn't at all up to the task of being president IMO.

You were a victim of CNNs lies and Trump promoting those lies. Carson had no clue and was rightfully pissed and believed CNNs lies about Cruz

"Let me tell you the facts of what occurred for those who are interested in knowing: On Monday night at about 6:30 p.m., CNN reported that Ben was not going from Iowa to New Hampshire or South Carolina. Rather, he was quote taking a break from campaigning. They reported that he was taking a break from campaigning. They reported that on television, CNN’s political anchors Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzer said it was highly unusual and highly significant. My political team saw CNN’s report — breaking news — and they forwarded that news to our volunteers, it was being covered on live television. Now at the time I was at the caucuses, I was getting ready to speak at the caucuses…I knew nothing about this…I reached [Carson] the next day and apologized. He asked me then, he said, Ted, would you make this apology in public? I said yes, I will, and I did so. I regret that subsequently, CNN reported on that — they didn’t correct that story until 9:15 that night. So from 6:30 p.m. to 9:15, that’s what CNN was reporting. Subsequent to that initial report, Ben’s campaign put out a statement saying that he wasn’t suspending his campaign. I wish that my campaign had seen that statement." - Ted Cruz

"Why did CNN choose to selectively report on Moody’s tweets — only the most damning part that Carson “plans to take a break from campaigning after Iowa.”

Why did it take CNN more than two hours to report the Moody tweet that made clear Carson was not dropping out?

Why is CNN lying about what Ted Cruz said?

Why is CNN using Moody’s tweets to defend on-air reporting?

The answer is simple…

It’s a three bank-shot. The arsonists at the left-wing CNN get away clean but damage two Republican presidential candidates in the process — Carson and Cruz." -Breitbart

Brietbart was pro Trump during the campaign

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...over-up-cnn-fact-checker-lies-about-ted-cruz/

I like Ben Carson but he was never going to get my vote because as you can infer he probably isn't emotionally up to the task of being POTUS and making decisions that will necessarily kill people.

Everyone else on that stage including low energy Jeb could put the Hellfire missile into the tent to kill a terrorist along with his wife and kids IF that's the only way.

Lyin' Ted Cruz was Trumps name for him from then on. It is why I did not vote for Trump. Had he been truthful himself and laid off the Lyin' Ted stuff I would have voted for him. But you don't smear my candidate like Trump did and get this mans vote. He and Ted made up. So now I can look at the job the man is doing and forgive and vote for him now. BUT I will NEVER forget or let this sh&t go unchallenged!
 
You were a victim of CNNs lies and Trump promoting those lies. Carson had no clue and was rightfully pissed and believed CNNs lies about Cruz

Actually, it looks like Cruz was a 'victim of CNN's lies', as he admits here:



I didn't watch CNN at the time so I had no idea what they reported. I do know what Cruz's campaign did, and it was a dick move. It was early on in the primaries, they saw an opportunity to pounce and do a blow to a rival candidate, and they took advantage.

Say what you want about Trump, but he could have done the same thing, and he didn't.
 
Actually, it looks like Cruz was a 'victim of CNN's lies', as he admits here:



I didn't watch CNN at the time so I had no idea what they reported. I do know what Cruz's campaign did, and it was a dick move. It was early on in the primaries, they saw an opportunity to pounce and do a blow to a rival candidate, and they took advantage.

Say what you want about Trump, but he could have done the same thing, and he didn't.
I think Ted Cruz is a good man but he's not popular with moderates and they knew he wouldn't beat Hillary.
 
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I think Ted Cruz is a good man but he's not popular with moderates and they knew he wouldn't beat Hillary.

Don't get me wrong, I like Cruz. And the stuff between him and Trump was idiotic at best during the primaries. Trump acted like a moron with that your daddy was the zodiac killer nonsense or whatever he said.

I'm glad they are mostly on the same page now.
 
And that would be Biden? LOL, I'm pretty sure someone has to help him open his pudding cups at snack time.
While I disagree with that characterization obviously, and there are plenty of examples of trump's incompetence with his meandering, tangential answers, I'd argue that at least biden hasn't stooped as low as trump.

trump has prostrated himself before every strong man dictator that comes his way, because he is a coward. It's particularly obvious with putin, who is constantly eating trump's lunch. Makes you wonder about whether he truly is a russian asset. Mueller's scathing rebuke of trump and his cronyism was very jarring.
 
Cruz is a poor campaigner. He beat Bozo barely in the most expensive Senate race ever. Gov. A'bott' smeared his loony opponent.

Does everyone here realize how lucky we are cop hater gun czar Bozo didn't win?
 
Yeah, so, tell me again about who has experience in handling a pandemic? The notebook has to be in a file cabinet somewhere in the Oval Office, right?
The former VP can't help. He can't find the bathroom without an escort.
Just because you have experience with something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing--isn't that what trump kept touting when he talked about how he was an "outsider" that was ready to "drain the swamp"?

What experience has shown us is that he is not equipped to lead himself out of a buffet line, let alone the nation during a pandemic. There are 130,000 dead Americans, and the infection rate is skyrocketing, and you think he's been doing a good job? His own incompetence has cost American lives--he owns that.
 
Just because you have experience with something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing--isn't that what trump kept touting when he talked about how he was an "outsider" that was ready to "drain the swamp"?

What experience has shown us is that he is not equipped to lead himself out of a buffet line, let alone the nation during a pandemic. There are 130,000 dead Americans, and the infection rate is skyrocketing, and you think he's been doing a good job? His own incompetence has cost American lives--he owns that.

And yet hillary wasn't smart enough to beat him.
 
That's true. She also didn't dodge military service (cadet bonespurs), or insult veterans, or have a bevy of sexual assault allegations leveled against her, or brag about sexual assault, or....well, you get the idea.
No, she watched American's roast at Benghazi (after weeks of warnings of attacks), had ATF agents and innocent children slaughtered at Waco, laughed about a rapist she defended (saying he was guilty of raping a 12-year-old girl but he was such a great liar he fooled the jury), and botched her only political experience as Senator/Secretary.
 
That's true. She also didn't dodge military service (cadet bonespurs), or insult veterans, or have a bevy of sexual assault allegations leveled against her, or brag about sexual assault, or....well, you get the idea.

Wasn't she pushing pencils behind a desk when she claimed she was jumping off a helicopter amid sniper fire in a war zone?

@Sunburnt Indian does a better job of cataloguing the hildabeasts lies than I do. I stopped counting and threw up my hands a long time ago.
 
No, she watched American's roast at Benghazi (after weeks of warnings of attacks), had ATF agents and innocent children slaughtered at Waco, laughed about a rapist she defended (saying he was guilty of raping a 12-year-old girl but he was such a great liar he fooled the jury), and botched her only political experience as Senator/Secretary.

Oh wow forgot about her bragging about getting a child rapist off.
 
Wasn't she pushing pencils behind a desk when she claimed she was jumping off a helicopter amid sniper fire in a war zone?

@Sunburnt Indian does a better job of cataloguing the hildabeasts lies than I do. I stopped counting and threw up my hands a long time ago.
One of my favorite lies she told was the border wall she supported (Trump called her out in the debate). She said it was really just a tiny fence that undocumented immigrants could easily step over.
o_O
 
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Just because you have experience with something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing--isn't that what trump kept touting when he talked about how he was an "outsider" that was ready to "drain the swamp"?

What experience has shown us is that he is not equipped to lead himself out of a buffet line, let alone the nation during a pandemic. There are 130,000 dead Americans, and the infection rate is skyrocketing, and you think he's been doing a good job? His own incompetence has cost American lives--he owns that.
HOW did it cost lives? HOW?
Has he told people to go to COVID parties? Twenty four new cases in Michigan TODAY are traced back to a large house party. So he's responsible for stupidity?
Has he told Dimwitted Millenials to rush to bars? Has he mandated behaviors that cause the spread?
Did he shut down ICU beds?

You don't get to make such statements unless you can back them up with FACTS.
 
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HOW did it cost lives? HOW?
Has he told people to go to COVID parties? Has he told Dimwitted Millenials to rush to bars? Has he mandated behaviors that cause the spread?
Did he shut down ICU beds?

You don't get to make such statements unless you can back them up with FACTS.
Trump is the catchall for Dims. It's a lot like children telling their parents they hate them after being disciplined.
 
While I disagree with that characterization obviously, and there are plenty of examples of trump's incompetence with his meandering, tangential answers, I'd argue that at least biden hasn't stooped as low as trump.

trump has prostrated himself before every strong man dictator that comes his way, because he is a coward. It's particularly obvious with putin, who is constantly eating trump's lunch. Makes you wonder about whether he truly is a russian asset. Mueller's scathing rebuke of trump and his cronyism was very jarring.

Only special people with a certain type of syndrome wonder if Trump is actually a Russian asset.

Biden was a career politician who was willing to say or do anything to get elected or gain power. I say was because he's a shell of the useless politician he used to be. He has changed his position EVERY TIME the political winds have changed. Did he come out against Obama "putting children into cages" as you say Trump has?

I have zero issues with people questioning Trump's integrity. I haven't cared for the man since his reality TV days...but to pretend that Biden holds the moral high ground on Trump is ridiculous. And when you consider that a vote for Biden is a literal wildcard vote for some other Dem to become POTUS and yet another to become VP, it's a ridiculous choice imho.
 
HOW did it cost lives? HOW?
Has he told people to go to COVID parties? Twenty four new cases in Michigan TODAY are traced back to a large house party. So he's responsible for stupidity?
Has he told Dimwitted Millenials to rush to bars? Has he mandated behaviors that cause the spread?
Did he shut down ICU beds?

You don't get to make such statements unless you can back them up with FACTS.
Fauci : Trump has done everything Birx and I have advised.
News: Trump is ignoring the doctors and people are dying
Dem politician: Trump is mismanaging it.
Average duped dem or TDS peep: Trump is mismanaging the pandemic and doesn't listen to the doctors.
Anyone not suffering from TDS: prove it
Duped: is all in the news cant you see it? [spouts talking points which aren't facts but propaganda.]
 
Actually, it looks like Cruz was a 'victim of CNN's lies', as he admits here:



I didn't watch CNN at the time so I had no idea what they reported. I do know what Cruz's campaign did, and it was a dick move. It was early on in the primaries, they saw an opportunity to pounce and do a blow to a rival candidate, and they took advantage.

Say what you want about Trump, but he could have done the same thing, and he didn't.
They thought Carson was quitting and went to get his voters . They moved quick because securing those votes would be the difference in winning Iowa.

Hind sight is nice but in the heat of the moment this was the correct action to take based on the "facts" at the time.

The Cruz camp wasn't out to hurt Carson. They thought he was quitting and were moving before anyone else to get his voters.

As for "dick" moves. Trumps whole campaign was one big "dick" move. He was crass the whole time.
 
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Cruz is a poor campaigner. He beat Bozo barely in the most expensive Senate race ever. Gov. A'bott' smeared his loony opponent.

Does everyone here realize how lucky we are cop hater gun czar Bozo didn't win?
The poor campaigner was in the presidential race until May 3. He was the last mans standing against Trump. The poor campaigner defeated a polished RINO establishment candidate awash with cash and name recognition to become Senator of Texas.

The poor campaigner beat Bozo despite all the outside money and constant smear campaign that the money bought.

Texas is blessed to have Cruz and if Texans don't realize that then Texans are morons. He can move to TN and I will vote for him today and or any day.

His resume is impeccable.

He is prime rib and all of his opponents have been at best ground beef.

People who don't get it should stick to chicken...dull dry chicken breast.
 
They thought Carson was quitting and went to get his voters . They moved quick because securing those votes would be the difference in winning Iowa.

Hind sight is nice but in the heat of the moment this was the correct action to take based on the "facts" at the time.

The Cruz camp wasn't out to hurt Carson. They thought he was quitting and were moving before anyone else to get his voters.

As for "dick" moves. Trumps whole campaign was one big "dick" move. He was crass the whole time.
I agree that Trump was laying waste to his campaign rivals by any means necessary. He was especially vile/disrespectful to Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz. I sat back and watched in amazement as he was slyly stealing the nomination by sticking to his Walls and MAGA mantra played like a broken record.
 
I agree that Trump was laying waste to his campaign rivals by any means necessary. He was especially vile/disrespectful to Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz. I sat back and watched in amazement as he was slyly stealing the nomination by sticking to his Walls and MAGA mantra played like a broken record.
Yeah how bad does it have to get when you are campaigning on hand size and the implication that it is correlated to the size of a persons manhood? In a national presidential campaign!!!

Reagan would have blushed out of embarrassment first and then anger because women and children would be watching and such banter would be considered undignified.

Out of that sh&t show arose a bazillionare reality star who took a Clinton to the woodshed.

We are well on the way to becoming the country in the movie Idiocrasy where a 100 years from now an IQ of 98 will be the new MENSA.
 
Yeah how bad does it have to get when you are campaigning on hand size and the implication that it is correlated to the size of a persons manhood? In a national presidential campaign!!!

Reagan would have blushed out of embarrassment first and then anger because women and children would be watching and such banter would be considered undignified.

Out of that sh&t show arose a bazillionare reality star who took a Clinton to the woodshed.

We are well on the way to becoming the country in the movie Idiocrasy where a 100 years from now an IQ of 98 will be the new MENSA.
We'll, we were already way below IQ quotient before Trump ever took office. No child left behind and stem are just separating the crap from the cream and placing the brightest minds in pharmaceutical/engineering research labs and herding the rest to the unemployment line. Trump at least is getting some of that dead weight a decent job.
 
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They thought Carson was quitting and went to get his voters . They moved quick because securing those votes would be the difference in winning Iowa.

Hind sight is nice but in the heat of the moment this was the correct action to take based on the "facts" at the time.

The Cruz camp wasn't out to hurt Carson. They thought he was quitting and were moving before anyone else to get his voters.

As for "dick" moves. Trumps whole campaign was one big "dick" move. He was crass the whole time.

So Cruz believed the CNN report is what you're really saying.
 
So Cruz believed the CNN report is what you're really saying.
The campaign managers believed it and moved on it. And they sent the message out to 1500 volunteers and had them hit the streets with the message at the caucus sites.

Cruz was out spreading germs (shaking hands and kissing babies.)

This is long after he handed out blankets with small pox, killed people in some occult ritual, or as some wiggling sperm aided his daddy in killing JFK and before he drank coffee without a mask on a plane.
 
I agree that Trump was laying waste to his campaign rivals by any means necessary. He was especially vile/disrespectful to Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz. I sat back and watched in amazement as he was slyly stealing the nomination by sticking to his Walls and MAGA mantra played like a broken record.

Which is kinda the point: Trump had a plan, no one else did. They would ask the others what they wanted to do and it was basically "Well we're not gonna do it the way he wants to do it, I'll tell ya that!"

Trump acted like a moron, and he got everyone else to fall down to his level except for Fiorina and Carson. If he had run in 2000 or 2004, he would have failed miserably cause Republicans were still willing to vote for Jeb/Marco/Cruz types then. By 2016 we were sick of the establishment, and along comes Trump who basically gives the middle finger to the establishment, and that won him a lot of people right there.

Everyone else on stage was talking about going to Washington and working with Democrats. Trump was saying he was gonna go blow up Washington. Easy choice.
 
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