By what definition are they pro-life?
I hate abortion. I also don't think we should make all abortion illegal. Am I pro-choice or pro-life?
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By what definition are they pro-life?
I hate abortion. I also don't think we should make all abortion illegal. Am I pro-choice or pro-life?
Not sure of relevance to this conversation. I have not taken a stance. I'm speaking on a topic. Now out of curiosity, what do you think an independent is? Or would say?
I'm saying that I always know which side of a debate that you will fall on. That would be tougher for me to figure out if you were an independent.
An independent is someone who often agrees with the left AND the right. You don't. And that is fine, we all are who we are and I'm not asking you to change...but you are what you are.
The extreme left may well consider you an independent fwiw.
...and it was a sidebar. I think it a lot. I just usually don't say anything.
Fair. My independence is party related. I have no allegiance to a party. I always said that some topics I'm liberal and some topics I'm conservative. I have supported democrats and Republicans. You guys just think as you already said that I'm some neutral down the middle referee. I don't believe anyone is in the middle.
Now one thing I do is point out the hypocrisy on both sides. I'm a if it's good for the geese it's good for the ganter. So if the democrats do it or did it, I don't want to hear people complain when the Republicans do it. You never hear complain when one side do partisan stuff, if the other party did it 1st.
Another Bama championship??? 😉
Fwiw, I do think that there is a LOT of room to reasonably restrict abortion. At the top of that list, NOT ONE TAX DOLLAR SHOULD BE SPENT ON ABORTION.
Then I would say you are non-partisan rather than an independent. Again, not a judgment, just an observation.
Well I am against abortion unless the life of the mother is in danger. I could not ask someone to sacrifice themselves for another.
But the key here is SCOTUS. If they overturn ( its constitutionality was always a joke) Roe and leave it up to the states then the pro-life states will be fine with stricter restrictions. I am pretty sure even those states will allow the life of the mother exemption.
And republicans will NOT be losing elections over this issue once SCOTUS rules against Roe. Its the reason why dems fight so hard to not allow even a crack to appear in the practice of their unholy sacrament. When SCOTUS speaks on an issue it will sway the masses (aka the sheep.)
Within a couple of years the sheep will be on board with the ruling. Dems know this and its why they are running scared and all torn up about the current SCOTUS and the possibility that Roe could rightfully be overturned in the near future.
But the key here is SCOTUS. If they overturn ( its constitutionality was always a joke) Roe and leave it up to the states then the pro-life states will be fine with stricter restrictions. I am pretty sure even those states will allow the life of the mother exemption.
And republicans will NOT be losing elections over this issue once SCOTUS rules against Roe. Its the reason why dems fight so hard to not allow even a crack to appear in the practice of their unholy sacrament. When SCOTUS speaks on an issue it will sway the masses (aka the sheep.)
Within a couple of years the sheep will be on board with the ruling. Dems know this and its why they are running scared and all torn up about the current SCOTUS and the possibility that Roe could rightfully be overturned in the near future.
Or in your case ....
.... couldn’t help it, you left yourself open
Hey speaking of falling into a deep wet hole, can you tell your wife I’ll be 15 minutes late today? Thank youMore like .....
or .....
I should be making you really question your wife every time she goes out to get “milk and cream.”You're making me really question everything I jot down before hitting "post reply"
Doesn't bother me, when she leaves the house mysteriously gets quiet - which is a good thing 🤣
A good thing for all of us
One day his wife is going to read this board...and there's going to be hell to pay.
...or not. Maybe it goes the other way??? 😂
What’s she going to do, deny @greyghost14 sex for the rest of his life for a second time?
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In some ways it is. Certainly in political ways.
The question is, who is the slave, the fetus or the mother.
How would the mother be the slave? No one is making the argument the mother’s life is owned and someone else has authority over her to kill her as a slave owner would do to a slave no longer desired.
The mother doesnt die and she has a choice. The baby is treated as property, something that can be killed without having a voice. Pretty clear to me.
Abortion abolitionist? That has a certain ring to it that could be a political slogan.
Yeah but that goes back to the question of who the abolitionist really are, those sticking up for a fetus which has no legal rights or those sticking up for a woman’s right to choose what happens to her own body? That’s the whole crux of the issue. Not quite as straightforward as slavery is it.
Spoken like a true man. A mother is a slave of the child that she gives birth to for years, lol. Also y’all keep referring to killing the baby, but again it’s not a baby, it’s a fetus. But legally in medically that’s a clear distinction.
That can EASILY be changed with the stroke of a pen. Fetus as you know is Latin for baby. The fetus aka baby is alive at conception. Prove me wrong.
That’s that’s just the whole point, I don’t have to prove you wrong, the law clearly defines A fetus versus a baby. I don’t need to prove you wrong you need to prove them wrong. Life, as a concept, has nothing to do per say with the definition of fetus versus baby. And to be fair you actually should refer to as as a baby you should refer to it as an infant because for the first year of life medically it is referred to as an infant.
All that said, these are semantics. The crux of your question is not when life begins but when viable life begins and that’s the crux of the question with the law too.
A slave has no choice in the matter. Mom spread her legs and got pregnant. Slaves had no say in the matter. And as a doctor, dehumanizing a baby is pretty abhorrent. I like you, doc, but you’re pretty stupid, bro.
Aren’t you also whining about the heartbeat bill?
And if we’re talking viable life arguments go ahead and pull the plug on coma victims. Or the crippled. Or the elderly.
So you’re vilifying women because they have sex. What about the men that had sex with them? I guess since they’re men they have no accountability or culpability. We just give them a hi5 cause he got laid but she’s just a dirty nasty little slut that got what she deserved and now has to deal with it for the rest of her life. Thank you, in one brief paragraph you summarized everything that’s wrong with men.
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When a pregnant lady is killed its a double homicide, so its counted as a person. I dont care what you call it.
Now that’s a perplexing point of law, no doubt. I don’t care what I call it either, I just like getting you guys worked up
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