Get ready, this is about to be the new spin...
Right....they can't stand not being able to control everyone like a Stepford Wife.
Bingo. This is about ginning up public support to punish the unvaxxxxed.
Funny how the spin was "I don't care if they get vaxxxxed or not, Darwin's Law' just a few weeks ago, now it's "These bastards have to get vaxxxxxed or they will KILL US ALL!"
What changed?
Sheep still asleep?
And yet she is too stooopid to understand that it isn't just "effects" but people are DYING from the jab.Effects. Learn the difference.
Some people have side effects.
Others aren't affected at all.
Hush, child.Effects. Learn the difference.
Some people have side effects.
Others aren't affected at all.
I hope that's all this is. I fear something far more diabolical.Right....they can't stand not being able to control everyone like a Stepford Wife.
I think this is insane but you know what it does do? It's a way to start to educate people about the side effects we're told don't exist. So I'm here for it, I hope it goes viral and we hear from all the injured and hospitalized vaccine patients.
How are things in that cave, KJ?And yet she is too stooopid to understand that it isn't just "effects" but people are DYING from the jab.
Hush or be put on Ignore. You are acting like a brat and are no better than @BSC911 at this point.Nope.
That has already been realized. They along with China and the WHO are culling the herd.I hope that's all this is. I fear something far more diabolical.
Good to know Doc Mcstuffins got the memo
COVID was lab created and man made with a deliberate intent and is able to mutate. Criminals funded it and the Chinese were complicit.I think this is insane but you know what it does do? It's a way to start to educate people about the side effects we're told don't exist. So I'm here for it, I hope it goes viral and we hear from all the injured and hospitalized vaccine patients.
I'll also say - for someone in Australia to have this stance is FAR different than a US Citizen...just given the way the Australian gov't has handled the pandemic. Those poor people are so beaten down that many would do anything to "end it". We get a little more freedom here.
(end it in quotes because it's flat out crazy at this point to think Covid is ever going away)
I think @Tmi512 has told us this was coming. As usual, he's been spot on.Good to know Doc Mcstuffins got the memo
The thing is that we’re finding out more and more every day that getting the vaccine does nothing to help or protect OTHERS. Sure, there is data that backs up the fact that it can keep you from getting more serious symptoms...I’m not denying that. That’s why I have no issues with people making their own decision to get the vaccine. Both of my parents are vaccinated.
Who in the ever loving ph***are you to talk to me like that? Seriously. You're a constant little run on who labors under the impression that you're a "somebody".Hush or be put on Ignore. You are acting like a brat and are no better than @BSC911 at this point.
You used to be one of the better posters here, but the vaccine talk has turned you into an emotional brat.
Grow up, or get out.
We still have guns. Harder to mess with a hornet than a fly,I think this is insane but you know what it does do? It's a way to start to educate people about the side effects we're told don't exist. So I'm here for it, I hope it goes viral and we hear from all the injured and hospitalized vaccine patients.
I'll also say - for someone in Australia to have this stance is FAR different than a US Citizen...just given the way the Australian gov't has handled the pandemic. Those poor people are so beaten down that many would do anything to "end it". We get a little more freedom here.
(end it in quotes because it's flat out crazy at this point to think Covid is ever going away)
Many counties in India also offered up Ivermectin as a prophylaxis, and that corresponded with a sharp decline in cases (note I didn’t say correlated).The thing is that we’re finding out more and more every day that getting the vaccine does nothing to help or protect OTHERS. Sure, there is data that backs up the fact that it can keep you from getting more serious symptoms...I’m not denying that. That’s why I have no issues with people making their own decision to get the vaccine. Both of my parents are vaccinated.
My issue is when people claim that those not getting the vaccine are somehow harming others which is a blatant lie. Vaxxed people are infecting others maybe as much as non-vaxxed.
I personally think between how infectious Delta is along with how many people already have natural immunity from previous covid infections over the past year we are going to see a sharp decline in cases over the next month. We saw this in India when they were setting records every day with 500k+ infections and then numbers dropped drastically. Now we hear literally nothing about India anymore.
You used to be a solid poster, but as I said since we started discussing vaccines here you've become an emotional brat. And you did that while everyone here said they COMPLETELY understood why you would want to get vaxxed. And you still acted like a child attacking myself and others simply because we expressed a POV that you didn't want to hear. Too bad.I don't need you to tell me I USED to be a good poster. I am a good poster.
The irony is, I am pretty sure I'm the one that got box of frogs banned after he left an absolutely horrid personal slur to.........you. It was disgusting and he deserved the boot.All you have at the end of the day is personal attacks if someone sees an issue even a tiny bit differently. Are you sure you're not a member of the Millenial woke cancel culture?
Now walk away you insecure little MF. ( see how that works?)
What are your thoughts on the theory that the vaccine is causing 'shedding' of covid onto the unvaccinated? Is that BS or any truth to the idea?My issue is when people claim that those not getting the vaccine are somehow harming others which is a blatant lie. Vaxxed people are infecting others maybe as much as non-vaxxed.
Hard to distinguish at this point. A study needs to be done on vaccinated people who are testing negative to see if they’re shedding. Good luck with that. If it was ever proven that it was happening it would almost certainly be suppressed.What are your thoughts on the theory that the vaccine is causing 'shedding' of covid onto the unvaccinated? Is that BS or any truth to the idea?
Take that one step further...if we assume there is some benefit to some of the treatment's we've debated, they're basically just making money at the expense of lost lives and our frontline healthcare workers.Hard to distinguish at this point. A study needs to be done on vaccinated people who are testing negative to see if they’re shedding. Good luck with that. If it was ever proven that it was happening it would almost certainly be suppressed.
Truth is we’ll likely never know the real answer. It’s easier for them to call people who believe it “conspiracy theorists” than it would be to admit their vaccine is potentially dog shit. If that happened they know no one would ever get another vaccine again.
I think we're about past the point of wondering if the vaccines are dog shit. I'm now wondering if they were designed this way.Hard to distinguish at this point. A study needs to be done on vaccinated people who are testing negative to see if they’re shedding. Good luck with that. If it was ever proven that it was happening it would almost certainly be suppressed.
Truth is we’ll likely never know the real answer. It’s easier for them to call people who believe it “conspiracy theorists” than it would be to admit their vaccine is potentially dog shit. If that happened they know no one would ever get another vaccine again.
This is my thing: If the people pushing vaccines blindly had been OPEN to the idea of other forms of treatment and didn't try to SUPPRESS that information, I think it would have actually led to MORE PEOPLE BEING VACCINATED.Take that one step further...if we assume there is some benefit to some of the treatment's we've debated, they're basically just making money at the expense of lost lives and our frontline healthcare workers.
In other words, not researching (or worse, knowingly pushing) a vaccine that might not be very effective and might actually increase the development of mutations - while killing any research into inexpensive treatments - all while raking in billions in quarterly profits...which probably 'circle back' as campaign donations...
This plot is a little too dark to believe.
100%This is my thing: If the people pushing vaccines blindly had been OPEN to the idea of other forms of treatment and didn't try to SUPPRESS that information, I think it would have actually led to MORE PEOPLE BEING VACCINATED.
There is a massive level of distrust toward the media and medical community among the unvaccinated. And they have earned that distrust by not being upfront or honest with us.
If they had, I think a good portion of the unvaccinated would actually be vaccinated right now.
It’s probably darker than any of us want to believe and will probably ever know unfortunately. All we can do is just make the best decisions for ourselves. That might include getting the vaccine for many. I want to be clear that I’m not antivax. I won’t get it but I won’t discourage anyone from getting it either. I trust my immune system whereas others might not trust theirs. Am I taking a risk? Sure, that can be argued. Every decision is a risk at this point. We just have to do what’s best for us and we should all have that right without being shamed.Take that one step further...if we assume there is some benefit to some of the treatment's we've debated, they're basically just making money at the expense of lost lives and our frontline healthcare workers.
In other words, not researching (or worse, knowingly pushing) a vaccine that might not be very effective and might actually increase the development of mutations - while killing any research into inexpensive treatments - all while raking in billions in quarterly profits...which probably 'circle back' as campaign donations...
This plot is a little too dark to believe.
Like I've said, I'm not necessarily suspicious of those who went warp speed to put out vaccine but I am very suspicious of who, what, how, and why this virus was developed in an overseas lab, with the knowledge and assisted funding of people in the US and with the capability to mutate repeatedly in humans, thus eluding eradication.It’s probably darker than any of us want to believe and will probably ever know unfortunately. All we can do is just make the best decisions for ourselves. That might include getting the vaccine for many. I want to be clear that I’m not antivax. I won’t get it but I won’t discourage anyone from getting it either. I trust my immune system whereas others might not trust theirs. Am I taking a risk? Sure, that can be argued. Every decision is a risk at this point. We just have to do what’s best for us and we should all have that right without being shamed.
Fatty I've been wondering the same these past two weeks. It would not be the first time Pharma got in bed with The Swamp either.Take that one step further...if we assume there is some benefit to some of the treatment's we've debated, they're basically just making money at the expense of lost lives and our frontline healthcare workers.
In other words, not researching (or worse, knowingly pushing) a vaccine that might not be very effective and might actually increase the development of mutations - while killing any research into inexpensive treatments - all while raking in billions in quarterly profits...which probably 'circle back' as campaign donations...
This plot is a little too dark to believe.
Where's the age and comorbidity cutoff where you'd recommend the vaccine?It’s probably darker than any of us want to believe and will probably ever know unfortunately. All we can do is just make the best decisions for ourselves. That might include getting the vaccine for many. I want to be clear that I’m not antivax. I won’t get it but I won’t discourage anyone from getting it either. I trust my immune system whereas others might not trust theirs. Am I taking a risk? Sure, that can be argued. Every decision is a risk at this point. We just have to do what’s best for us and we should all have that right without being shamed.
There’s no playbook or algorithm to this thing. Best thing to do is sit down and do research to decide if it’s best for you or not. Obviously some comorbidities are more high risk than others. As far as age, I would probably start thinking more seriously about it after 50 or so. It really depends on the individual.Where's the age and comorbidity cutoff where you'd recommend the vaccine?
Pretty interesting comments from @gator1776 's favorite mRNA inventor - he's commenting on a presentation recently given by Fauci.Fatty I've been wondering the same these past two weeks. It would not be the first time Pharma got in bed with The Swamp either.
44There’s no playbook or algorithm to this thing. Best thing to do is sit down and do research to decide if it’s best for you or not. Obviously some comorbidities are more high risk than others. As far as age, I would probably start thinking more seriously about it after 50 or so. It really depends on the individual.
Remember how we were told here that there are no side affects to the vaccines?
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