Utah is our first game! Can we get them? They are the PAC-12 Champs! What say you all?
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FIFUUtah is our first game! Can we get them?
They were the PAC-12 Champs! What say you all?
I agree. Utah doesn’t exactly make you quake in your shoes and we are the Florida Gators at HOME! So I expect to win this game.FIFU
UU 2021 - 10-4 Lac12-C
2021 PPG - 36
Rushing - 3,035 at 5.6 ypc, with 37 TD's
Passing - 3,000 at 7.48/att with 24 TD's
Total Off. 431/Gm at 6.4 Yds/Play
The offense looks like mostly run, supplemented with dink & dunk passing.
(imo, def needs to play them tight in the box with man in the secondary)
FG's 12 of 18
Net Punt Ave 35.46 --- (UF has better kickers)
Fumbles--Lost 23--7
Gave up 42 sacks <<< this
Ave Penalties Yds/Gm 45.14 (disciplined)
ToP/Gm 30:49
So pretty good stats, but in a conf that hasn't won a NC in decades....
Their 4 Losses: BYU-SDSt-OreSt - and tOSU in Bowl.
Recruiting:
2023 #48 UF Coaching Change -- #52 UU Stable Coaching Staff
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2022 #17 UF -- #38 UU
2021 #12 UF -- #34 UU
2020 #9 UF --- #30 UU
2019 #9 UF --- #42 UU
2018 #14 UF -- #33 UU
5 Yr Ave - 12.2 UF -- 35.4 UU
Coach-um-up Nappy, because there are no lack of talent excuses....
😂 🤣 😂While I am expecting UF to lose, Im not going to get down about it. I do believe that despite their slow start last season, Utah would have beaten bama by 10 by the end of the season.
😂 🤣 😂
Oct 23 Utah 34 - 42 OreSt
Bowl - Utah 45 - 48 tOSU (11-2)
Big 12-C Mich 42 - 27 tOSU
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2021 End of Season Results:
Alabama 41 - 21 UGly - SEC-C (-20)
Alabama 27 - 6 Cincy - CFP
Alabama 18 - 33 UGly - CFP NC (-15)
Alabama 13-2 NC Runner-Up
Utah went 10-4 and lost to tOSU in their bowl game.
4 Losses: BYU-SDSt-OreSt - and tOSU in Bowl.
Heck, CFP Cincy would have likely beat Utah at the end of the season.
Utah 10-4 Bowl Loser
Agree, no way Utah beats Bama in a game that matters. Sure maybe a consolation bowl game ( which has already happened) but no way in a kick(ass) off classic or a CFP game.You are welcome to your speculation and opinions, that's your right.
What team(s) that made the CFP did Utah beat?
Name their best win on their 10-4 season?
Bama beat Cincy in the CFP, and during the season they beat NC UGly by more points that UGly beat them by for in the NC.
JMOHO, but Utah had a good season,,, for a no-Def. Lac 12 team anyway.
I believe that Utah is a 50/50 game for UF in 2022.
Utah would not have beat a 13-2 Bama, but of course, that's just my opinion.
Off season blather from both of us on this subject.
50/50 only because Utah is traveling across the country in their first game. If it was at Utah or like the 3rd game I would say more like a 20% chance. AR15 will have to show out some for sure.Utah is our first game! Can we get them? They are the PAC-12 Champs! What say you all?
Utah is our first game! Can we get them? They are the PAC-12 Champs! What say you all?
See my previous post and try again....I'm not sure on Napier, he's an unknown. I'm not sure what Utah returns but they were peaking at the end of last yr. I think it will be tough for the Gators to win this game. Is it at home?
See my previous post and try again....
UF comes to the @ Home Utah game with a 5 year Ave #12.2 Recruiting class.
UU comes to the @ Swamp game with a 5 year Ave #35.4 Recruiting class.
So of course, the dog-pokers of the world would tell you that the above means that it's a sure win for the Gators because of the vast importance of recruit class rankings.
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Billy Napier's last 4 seasons at ULL = 40-12 (.769)
Kyle Wittingham's last 4 seasons at Utah = 33-14 (.702)
(3-2 in shortened Co-V 2020)
Fun Facts:
Kyle is 1-0 vs Bama, but he's 0-2 vs BSU....
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Utah's projected starters vs iG's WaG starters:
This is just for a very general comparison of players, nothing more...
Utah Offense vs Gator Defense
WR-X Vele 6-5 204 rsSo -- Marshall 6-0 192 So
WR-Z Enis 6-3 208 Sr ----- Hill 6-0 193 rsSo
WR-R Parks 5-10 170 So -- Kimber 6-0 170 rsSo
LT Kump 6-5 309 So ---- DE Cox 6-4 253 rsJr
LG Bills 6-4 318 rsSo ---- DT Dexter 6-6 313 So
OC Maile 6-2 304 rsJr --- DT Watson 6-5 415 So
RG Laurmea 6-4 312 rsSo -- DT Humphries 6-6 330 rsSo
RT Daniels 6-4 299 rsJr -- DE Umanmieien 6-4 259 So
TE-Y Kincaid 6-4 242 Sr-xfer -- OLB Borders 6-4 232 rsFr
TE-U Kuithe 6-2 222 Sr --- OLB Black 6-3 221 Jr
QB Rising 6-2 220 rsJr-xfer -- ILB Miller 6-1 228 rsSr
RB Thomas 6-2 238 Jr-xfer -- ILB Burney 6-2 236 Sr
Utah Defense vs Gator Offense
LDE Suguturaga 6-4 265 rsSo - LT Gouraige 6-5 310 rsJ
LDT Tafuna 6-3 297 So -------- LG White 6-5 334 Jr
RDT Kaufusi 6-7 288 Sr-xfer -- RG Torrance 6-5 335
RDE Fillinger 6-4 250 rsSo ---- RT Tarquin 6-5 301
Stud Furey 6-2 226 Jr --------- OC Equakun 6-4 305
(nobody over 300 vs everybody over 300)
Rover Reid 6-0 226 So --- QB Richardson 6-4 237 So
MAC Diabate 6-4 220 Sr - RB Lingard 6-0 205 rsJr
LCB Broughton 5-11 195 Jr - WR Shorter6-5 228 rsJr
RCB Phillips 5-10 184 So --- WR Herderson 6-3 193 So
Nic Mataele 5-11 186 rsSo - WR Whittemore 6-4 210 rsSo
FS Hubert 6-0 198 Sr ------ TE Zipperer 6-3 234 Jr
SS Bishop 6-2 206 So ------ TE Zanders 6-5 261 rsJr
(little bittie DB's vs full size receivers)
In the Trench Warfare Section:
Utah DL Ave 265.2 vs Gator OL Ave 317.0
Utah OL Ave 308.4 vs Gator DL Ave 314.0
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More iG guesswork:
Utah will try to run the ball down the Gators throat.
They will pass as the need or opportunity presents itself.
The Gators need to load the box and play man in the secondary.
Gators will need to show good balance, but depend on the arm and legs of AR-15.
The Gators size and speed across the board should be the deciding factor.
Turnovers, penalties and/or injuries, can tip the balance either way, in any game.
I'm staying with my 50/50, but I'd bet a beer on the Gators....
Key Issues,,, to me anyway:
Player talent:
UF comes to the @ Home Utah game with a 5 year Ave #12.2 Recruiting class.
UU comes to the @ Swamp game with a 5 year Ave #35.4 Recruiting class.
Coaching Ability:
Billy Napier's last 4 seasons at ULL = 40-12 (.769)
Kyle Wittingham's last 4 seasons at Utah = 33-14 (.702)
In the Trench Warfare Section:
Utah DL Ave 265.2 vs Gator OL Ave 317.0
Utah OL Ave 308.4 vs Gator DL Ave 314.0
UU secondary - 5-10, 5-11, 5-11, 6-0, 6-2
UF receivers --- 6-3, 6-3, 6-4, 6-5, 6-5
QB Cameron Rising 6-2 220 So (3rd Yr)
63.8% 7.8 Yds/Att, L-49, 42 Sacks vs Lac-12 defenses.
Rushing - 6.7 Ypc, L-62
QB Anthony Richardson 6-4 237 So (2nd Yr)
59.0%, 8.4 Yds/Att, L-75 vs SEC defenses.
Rush - 8.0 Ypc, L-80
Fr All SEC Team as the Gator backup QB while nursing injuries.
AR-15 seems to have made strong advances, going by the Spring game.
And I'd be a lot happier about the Utah game and the coming season, if Max Brown could come in and beat out Miller for the backup job, but I doubt that ole Nappy will even make any attempt to move Brown up in the pecking order.
(McLame/Del Rio --- Nappy/Miller)
Going with that same kind of speculation,,,You never know Miller might shine when its his time...
Not trying to be a smartass but to answer the question: because Utah will enter the game as Pac12 champs and we won like 5 games last year and have new coaches.Why are all the early polls disrespecting us and talking up Utah so much? We will be well above them in talent composite index I would think. Probably top # 12 area to their # 30 area.
Did you see the UF defense last year? That's why I'm worried.I cant believe anybody is worried about UF NOT beating UU. Pac12? No Defense?
I cant believe anybody is worried about UF NOT beating UU. Pac12? No Defense?
....because we don't have any depth!Why are all the early polls disrespecting us and talking up Utah so much? We will be well above them in talent composite index I would think. Probably top # 12 area to their # 30 area.
Utah has been a top 15-25 program over the past few years. Tough opener for a team with tons of question marks.I cant believe anybody is worried about UF NOT beating UU. Pac12? No Defense?
The heat and humidity will wear them quick. I lived in Utah and Florida. Unless I am reading this wrong, they are playing in the swamp, correct?This and that on the UF vs UU game from the several postings so far....
Utah is bringing in a new team/roster, just like UF is.
Both have some returning players, but teams reform with new guys yearly.
Billy and Kyle are both fully competent millionaire coaches.
Note: What did Nappy do as a 1st year coach at ULL? Won Sun Belt W & got a bowl.
Four consecutive West Division titles, 4 straight bowl appearances, a share of the Sun Belt title in 2020 and as the 2021 Sun Belt Conference Champions. 2X Sun Belt CoY.
I'm guessing that he's a lot better off now at UF in his 1st year. 😎
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Recruit Class Ranking Trina:
2022 - 38 UU -- WF 71
2021 - 34 UU -- WF 66
2020 - 30 UU -- WF 59
2019 - 42 UU -- WF 59
2018 - 33 UU -- WF 64
5 Year Recruit Class Ave. -- 12.2 UF -- 35.4 UU -- WF 63.8
UF is 23.2 better than UU
UU is 28.4 better than WF.
Too bad that recruit class rankings don't mean squat on game days....
I don't really care which you pick,,, but either recruit rankings matter, or they don't, so chose....
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GBO -- "Outside of the top 5-6 teams in the country last year, I would have taken Utah over about anyone else."
That makes no sense to me dude, looking at who they lost 4 games to....
2021 UU finished at 10-4 and Lac12 Champs.
So what was the quality of opponents they lost to:
9-11-21 UU 17 - 26 BYU (+9) --- BYU 28 - 31 UAB (+3)
9-18-21 UU 31 - 33 SDSt (+2) -- SDSt 13 - 46 UtahSt (+33)
10-23-21 UU 34 - 42 OreSt (+8) -- OreSt 25 - 39 Cal (+14)
1-1-22 -- UU 45 - 48 tOSU (+3) -- tOSU 27 - 42 Mich (+15)
>>> While only one of the above listed teams (Mich) made the CFP.
~~ And Mich got embarrassed by UGly -- UG 34 - 11 Mich (-23)
While the UU LAC12-Champ was a 4 loss team....
When was the last time an SEC-C was a 4 loss team???
Can the new 2022 version UU beat UF in the Swamp?
Yep, 'On Any Sat' they certainly can,,,, but will they is the question?
Had they met in 2021, imo UU would likely have cleaned UF's clock.
That was THEN, while their next game will be here in the new NOW...
Both of those 2021 UU-4 & 7-UF loss teams are now history.
What you really have to do is look at the their 2022 rosters and make your arguments,
leading to your WaG on the coming winner. I'm still, after looking at all of the items,
calling it a 50/50 game, with the Swamp maybe giving UF a +3.
Where the poll meatheads happen to put them pre-season, is of no real concern to me.
BTW, incompetent fired Dan, took over a chitty McLame 4-7 team, and he went 10-3 his first season.
Nappy is taking over a 6-7 team with a solid group of SEC quality starters.
Any perceived lack of depth won't likely cause a problem in the 1st game.
They have plenty of quality depth btw, just no depth with a lot of proven playing time.
The Gator's depth has as good or better talent athletes as UU's starters.
Okay, yawl can have at my comment now.... 😉
Also, UF will not be beat up with a SEC schedule as it would be if the game was playing later in the year.The heat and humidity will wear them quick. I lived in Utah and Florida. Unless I am reading this wrong, they are playing in the swamp, correct?
This is a good point along with depth not being as serious an issue as it would after several SEC games the heat will certainly be a factor.Also, UF will not be beat up with a SEC schedule as it would be if the game was playing later in the year.
Did you watch them play last year? I'm guessing not. You're making general statements ... "Pac12, no defense". I actually watched a few of their games late night Saturday's. Unlike most Pac12 teams, they are very physical, very experienced, good QB, very good coaching, they played Ohio ST down to the wire in the Rose Bowl. I expect we will have our hands full and would be very happy with a winI cant believe anybody is worried about UF NOT beating UU. Pac12? No Defense?
True, but I’d say removing grantham was an instant improvement. Still, we’re an unknown quantity.Did you see the UF defense last year? That's why I'm worried.
Get back to me in the fall.Did you watch them play last year? I'm guessing not. You're making general statements ... "Pac12, no defense". I actually watched a few of their games late night Saturday's. Unlike most Pac12 teams, they are very physical, very experienced, good QB, very good coaching, they played Ohio ST down to the wire in the Rose Bowl. I expect we will have our hands full and would be very happy with a win
The Utes have a good program. We're the underdogs going into this one IMO. Can wait to see what we look like this year. I really don't have an expectation yet. Clean slate...let's see what happens.Did you watch them play last year? I'm guessing not. You're making general statements ... "Pac12, no defense". I actually watched a few of their games late night Saturday's. Unlike most Pac12 teams, they are very physical, very experienced, good QB, very good coaching, they played Ohio ST down to the wire in the Rose Bowl. I expect we will have our hands full and would be very happy with a win
Did you see the UF defense last year? That's why I'm worried.
Listen, I hope you're right, just don't underestimate our opponentGet back to me in the fall.