9-4 Utah was the LAC-12 Champ in 2021.
Tell me the last time that any SEC team won the SEC-C with a 4 loss season???
As to Gator 1st games in the last 5 seasons:
2021 FAU
2020 Ole Miss
2019 Miami
2018 CharSo (D2)
2017 Mich
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Tell me the last time that any SEC team won the SEC-C with a 4 loss season???
As to Gator 1st games in the last 5 seasons:
2021 FAU
2020 Ole Miss
2019 Miami
2018 CharSo (D2)
2017 Mich
The SEC went 0-3 against non power 5 conference teams in bowl games.
He hasn't even coached a game lol now you guys see what we are dealing with. It's tough to switch coaches nowadays, it ruins almost 2 recruiting classes
That's feveredbrains just being at his very best with a relevant comment.... 😉
The SEC puts 7 to 10 teams in bowl games every year, some of them lose bowl games for a myriad of reasons.
On the other hand, the SEC has won 12 of the last 16 NC's, with 5 different teams winning one....
UA, UF, LSU, AU, UGly.
I'm a U of U grad so I kind of watch them from afar.
My opinion is just telling you what I've seen - Utah is pretty good team and Florida is not lol. Differences in competition, divisions etc. yes - it's an even money game imo.
The one thing that gives me a UF edge is the fact we do have more talent and it's the first game of the season so we should be fresh. If this was game 6-8 and we were in the middle of the SEC grind I'd probably give Utah the edge. Injuries matter but not as much first game.
My opinion is just telling you what I've seen - Utah is pretty good team and Florida is not lol. Differences in competition, divisions etc. yes - it's an even money game imo.
The one thing that gives me a UF edge is the fact we do have more talent and it's the first game of the season so we should be fresh. If this was game 6-8 and we were in the middle of the SEC grind I'd probably give Utah the edge. Injuries matter but not as much first game.
Billy Napier pens an open letter to Gators fans
Florida Gators head football coach Billy Napier penned an open letter to fans thanking them for their support and asking for patience.
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Billy Napier pens an open letter to Gators fans
Florida Gators head football coach Billy Napier penned an open letter to fans thanking them for their support and asking for patience.www.on3.com
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lol It's not a big deal if we don't think he is worth the NIL others are offering. Not sure where Miami will fall on NIL but I see the Gators being lower top 10 when it comes to getting/buying these top 150 area recruits.
Not going to land a top 5 class in this NIL environment. You can already shoe in Southern Cal, Texas, Texas A&M, Bama & UGA. I didn’t even include Ohio St, Clemson and LSU in that list.
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Yep I was just thinking if it was the 80s we would be top 5 NIL as we had a lot of rich boosters who were huge football fans then. Now we have a bunch of rich alumni but many don't take football that serious like some other SEC alumni.
Unfortuately he won't make it if he can't recruit - regardless of the environment we're in.
Good question but because you still have to have good recruiters and be able to build relationships. Yes these kids want money but they still want to be able to connect with their coaches, etc.
Spurrier is more coach than recruiter. How do you think he would do in today’s time? No way that he would want anything to do with this.
I don't think any of us know where this whole NIL thing is gonna go. Ten years ago we were complaining about facilities. Now it's boosters not taking this whole football thing seriously. Miami had the same issues until they didn't. College football is the sport that generates the revenue for all of our other programs like baseball, softball, track and field, women's basketball. Let's see how the next five years look before we are already saying it's not gonna, or it is gonna. Maybe you're right, Georgia, and Alabama will run this conference. Ohio State, Clemson will dominate their conferences. Miami will build a dynasty off co-caine like Scarface.
Not sure where Miami really is on NIL because they just get a lot of talk because of that loud booster. My guess is Miami will be in the same area as us on that around the #10 area. I am not sure if Clemson will be top NIL and actually doubt they will be. Most of the top NIL are the same ones that were buying top players previously. A&M seems to have went into overdrive on that since it was legalized though.
It is what it is I guess but this is what can happen when you become mostly a nerdy school with crazy entry requirements like UF has had now for years. You get more of your wealthy alumni not caring that much about football. I am kind of curious to see what happens with Michigan and NIL also.
Spurrier seemed to know how to network and delegate other duties well.
If Spurrier was 50 years old right now he would have built a hell of a network of boosters and a team of assistants, analyst, and all the others in the operation department.
Spurrier knew how to delegate so he could spend his time drawing up plays, ball coaching his QB's, and balancing out the family life with a splash of chasing golf balls.
Spurrier loved the summer booster tour. Guarantee he would round up his network of booster friends and have them passing the NIL plate.
People always say "Spurrier hated recruiting" which may be true but he did it and did it well. Assembled some of the best talent to walk the Florida campus. Even got some on the best recruits to come to SCar. Has SCar since and after had the likes of Alshon Jeffries, Marcus Lattamore, and J Clowney on a roster at the same time? There are things I dislike about my job but at the end of the day I do it well. Probably the same for majority of us.
We haven't had that coach that is good rallying up the fan base (including boosters) like Spurs and Meyer. Pell started it, Spurrier upped it another level.
I'm a day early for this maybe, but here it goes anyway....
I like winning as much as the next person.
There is a vast difference between liking to win,
and being obsessed with nothing but winning,
especially since it's nothing but a freakin' game.
HS & College with your teammates on a solid life's path, getting a
well rounded education, character development and a lifelong network.
VS
NIL Semi-Pro College and then the NFL,
where nothing but the $$$ in hand matters.
It appears to me that the greed based NCAA and the individual Socialist Univ. Presidents can no longer make good decisions concerning the future of college sports. I am becoming less and less interested every year....
Those HS athletes that want to ONLY --- 'Show me the Money'
Need to be going to the Pros, or to an NFL sponsored and paid for Semi-Pro organization.
The HS athletes that want a 4-5 year complete college experience, ending with a degree and then a shot at a career in football or otherwise, don't need the NIL NCAA money.
Babylon Banking and Sodom & Gomorrah morals,
have no place in a right-minded ethical world imo.
But everyone is free to choose which way they want to go.....
Just like it always has been,,,,
The path to Heaven and piece of mind is a narrow one,
while the path to HELL is wide open, waiting, and inviting for the unwary...
So choose, and then be prepared for the consequences.
Because there will be no mercy for those that chose the wrong path....
I like winning as much as the next person.
There is a vast difference between liking to win,
and being obsessed with nothing but winning,
especially since it's nothing but a freakin' game.
HS & College with your teammates on a solid life's path, getting a
well rounded education, character development and a lifelong network.
VS
NIL Semi-Pro College and then the NFL,
where nothing but the $$$ in hand matters.
It appears to me that the greed based NCAA and the individual Socialist Univ. Presidents can no longer make good decisions concerning the future of college sports. I am becoming less and less interested every year....
Those HS athletes that want to ONLY --- 'Show me the Money'
Need to be going to the Pros, or to an NFL sponsored and paid for Semi-Pro organization.
The HS athletes that want a 4-5 year complete college experience, ending with a degree and then a shot at a career in football or otherwise, don't need the NIL NCAA money.
Babylon Banking and Sodom & Gomorrah morals,
have no place in a right-minded ethical world imo.
But everyone is free to choose which way they want to go.....
Just like it always has been,,,,
The path to Heaven and piece of mind is a narrow one,
while the path to HELL is wide open, waiting, and inviting for the unwary...
So choose, and then be prepared for the consequences.
Because there will be no mercy for those that chose the wrong path....
At least the courts said the NFL could have a 3 years removed from high school rule. Imagine if that wasn't held up.
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Tennessee,
"Spurrier loved the summer booster tour." - My memory could be wrong, but I don't think so.
At first, yes - then, the longer he stayed & the more time it took away from his family & his golf game - NO !
Demands on his time & the Intrusiveness of the fans were the biggest reasons he listed when asked why he stepped down from coaching the Gators.
"Spurrier loved the summer booster tour." - My memory could be wrong, but I don't think so.
At first, yes - then, the longer he stayed & the more time it took away from his family & his golf game - NO !
Demands on his time & the Intrusiveness of the fans were the biggest reasons he listed when asked why he stepped down from coaching the Gators.
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Please stay healthy AR15!
Dayummmmmm! That receiver was too slow.
Dayummmmmm! That receiver was too slow.
Recruiting elite QBs: Miami’s Mario Cristobal 1, Florida’s Billy Napier 0. That’s a problem, Gators
Florida's new coach is swinging and missing for the nation's top QB recruits. That's a problem, especially when his target picks an in-state rival.
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The path to hell is paved with gold, treats, and other alluring things. Once you get there you are fat, corrupted, and simple minded. Time will tell how far these "educational institutions" will just toss away their entrance requirements. Sports, and other entertainment endeavors are nice. But they are still ultimately just distractions. They don't provide anything of real substance. First World countries have fallen all the time when they stopped noticing the failings of their infrastructure.
Color me not surprised at all by his 80'ish yard throw.
At Elite-11 coming out of HS, AR-15 won the longest throw competition:
Longest throws at the 'Opening Finals' July 1st 2019:
AR-15 = 68.5 Yards
Dekkers = 67.5
Stroud = 65.0
Beck = 63.0
Ashford 62.0
Sims = 61.0
Criswell = 61.0
King = 60.0
Van Dyke = 60.0
Young = 59.0
Finley = 58.0
Bailey = 58.0
The Rest 56 or less....
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What? C'mon dude. Remember Travis Henry? Dude couldn't read, had no trouble getting into UT when even our "special admissions for athletes" couldn't swallow taking someone illiterate.
Or how about Jan Kemp? Didn't you ever yell "Let the big dawg read!" at UGa? Because they had a bunch of illiterate players in the 80's and Dr Kemp exposed them for it? (Georgia really may be the worst athletic program in America, despite how fierce the competition is for the title.)
Don't talk about lowering entrance requirements, there haven't been entrance requirements for decades.
You could be right. He was in Memphis a couple weeks ago for his induction for The Liberty Bowl Hall of Fame induction. He spoke of where he got his "Free Shoes" , "Auburn hadn't colored in their books" and "Can't spell Citrus without the UT" comments from and used them on his summer booster tour. He said those tours were always an eventful time that he enjoyed.
Granted, the coloring books, Free Shoes, and CiTrUs, comments were earlier in his career at UF.
Yours truly (me) asked him who his most talented QB he coached at UF was. He didn't name names and did a little coach speak. Danny W was his most coachable. Shane M was a great all around talent and mind, said Doug Johnson was hard not to play due to his skills "tossing the ball" said if he was ever proud of making a QB out of any player he coached was JP, basically swayed on the best athlete he coached at QB was Rex, and said he wished he could have had more time with Brock Berlin. Briefly spoke Dean and said they remained in good friendship, said if he didn't have DW on the roster that he thinks Eric K would have led UF to the promise land as well. Said Ingle Martin was an exceptional athlete he wished he could've coached longer and might have possibly used him in multiple positions like the one staff did with that Burton fella. Thought for a moment and said something along the lines of "Man I really had some talent at my disposal with many of those guys on the roster at the same time with some great RB's and WR's."
I enjoy watching college sports. I know cars, money, tutors with answers, and sealed envelopes have always been tied to getting guys into uniforms representing institutions of higher learning. It would be like Louie Anderson selling girl scout cookies because he could make that non profit organization some unreported profits.
I watch the games, I enjoy seeing the guys in orange helmets beating the guys in other helmets. Nebraska fans today will preach about ethics, and defend Lawrence Phillips. I will do the same, but admit Aaron Hernandez most likely did some heinous things while helping us win a championship. I still celebrate that 2008 team. I'm not even against the transfer portal, and N.I.L as I believe in making what you earn, and coaches going through the turnstiles all the time, so players should be allowed as well.
The reason most of us go to college is completely different then a 5 star from Dade County. It's the way it is, and I'm okay with it. I'm a liar if I say I am morally opposed to it. I'll own it, or I'll just stop watching movies, and sports altogether. What are my options at that point. Watching Mister Rogers?
Take a look at the other swamp, the one in DC, and you'll see where those traits lead you to....
The wide road or the narrow path have always lead to the same destinations.
Options and choices haven't changed much in 10,000 years....
Here is that wide road for ya to inspect. Seems to me that there's been a rock slide across the 'narrow path' at this point. It would take some serious work to clear the way for a return to sanity, and the iG just doesn't see the morals or character among those currently in charge, for that to happen. The SWAMP and the swamp, both seem to have been over-run by the same corruption disease....
"This is the world we’re living in. NIL is out of control, the transfer portal’s out of control. There's no rules and regulations. There's nobody that's in charge and enforcing anything. It's the wild, wild west, people doing anything they want. So even when you make a quote-unquote gentleman's agreement with this new alliance, you almost feel like as you're shaking hands with this gentleman's agreement and the other guy has his hands behind his back with his fingers crossed."
“With NIL, with the money that's coming into this world, wait until players become employees. I think that's going to be part of this too. I think this world that I'm describing is going to break away from the NCAA. I think they'll create their own governing body. They'll put a commissioner that's in charge of it. They'll probably do a CBA with the players essentially making them employees. And then you'll negotiate a deal with them to avoid the antitrust law. Negotiate a deal. Here's our deal. We'll pay you a salary your freshman year, we’ll pay you a salary your sophomore year, junior year, senior year, and the longer you stay, the more money you make. And that's, again, it's professional football, but I think what happens is that next tier team, is they will now create their own division and have to be left out of the College Football Playoff and big boy football.”
“And I think to kind of clarify it for fans, I think another way of looking at it, it's going to be the AFC and the NFC of college football. You’ll have what, four divisions within each conference? You may have two or three divisions within each of these Big Ten and SEC conferences. And I think you'll see, eventually, then go to like a 12- or a 16-team playoff and it's essentially going to be NFL football on Saturdays. I think that's where this thing's headed before it's all said and done.” -- Kirk Herbstreit
"This is the world we’re living in. NIL is out of control, the transfer portal’s out of control. There's no rules and regulations. There's nobody that's in charge and enforcing anything. It's the wild, wild west, people doing anything they want. So even when you make a quote-unquote gentleman's agreement with this new alliance, you almost feel like as you're shaking hands with this gentleman's agreement and the other guy has his hands behind his back with his fingers crossed."
“With NIL, with the money that's coming into this world, wait until players become employees. I think that's going to be part of this too. I think this world that I'm describing is going to break away from the NCAA. I think they'll create their own governing body. They'll put a commissioner that's in charge of it. They'll probably do a CBA with the players essentially making them employees. And then you'll negotiate a deal with them to avoid the antitrust law. Negotiate a deal. Here's our deal. We'll pay you a salary your freshman year, we’ll pay you a salary your sophomore year, junior year, senior year, and the longer you stay, the more money you make. And that's, again, it's professional football, but I think what happens is that next tier team, is they will now create their own division and have to be left out of the College Football Playoff and big boy football.”
“And I think to kind of clarify it for fans, I think another way of looking at it, it's going to be the AFC and the NFC of college football. You’ll have what, four divisions within each conference? You may have two or three divisions within each of these Big Ten and SEC conferences. And I think you'll see, eventually, then go to like a 12- or a 16-team playoff and it's essentially going to be NFL football on Saturdays. I think that's where this thing's headed before it's all said and done.” -- Kirk Herbstreit
Kirk is wrong. When college football became a profitable entity, the non-profit model no longer worked. Kirk is talking about going to a different, but still non-profit, model.
The only way to make a for-profit entity work is to use a for-profit model. Look for the NCAA to use the NFL as the model, for the schools to divest themselves of the sport to private ownership, with the school receiving payments for NIL, plus renting the stadium to the team. The inclusion of a draft and salary cap will end the free-for-all we have now. Plus, for the school, they get rid of a huge administrative headache and replace it with a weekly check. Can't beat that!
As I have said many times before now, College amateur athletics is mostly dead, but especially in big time college football.
Take the money athletics out of Universities and let them return to education with voluntary self supported inter-mural sports.
Let the for profit athletics support themselves, and stop masquerading as student/ATHLETES....
After HS, you choose which you want, an education, or an immediate job in paid athletics. Baseball does this already.
During the transition to this new era, the U's can still rent out their game facilities, stadiums, etc...
And nothing prevents an athletic college grad from later pursuing Pro/Money sports, post graduation....
I've already dropped out of the Alumni Assoc.
I've already stopped going to any games in any sport.
And I'm down to watching very few sporting events on TV.
But we're only one couple that's had enough and have done something about it. Until others are willing to do the same, the $$$/corruption will continue to rule the day....
Addressed at large: Choose / Eat It / And then STFU complaining about what you've freely chosen, and what you still refuse to change.
Take the money athletics out of Universities and let them return to education with voluntary self supported inter-mural sports.
Let the for profit athletics support themselves, and stop masquerading as student/ATHLETES....
After HS, you choose which you want, an education, or an immediate job in paid athletics. Baseball does this already.
During the transition to this new era, the U's can still rent out their game facilities, stadiums, etc...
And nothing prevents an athletic college grad from later pursuing Pro/Money sports, post graduation....
I've already dropped out of the Alumni Assoc.
I've already stopped going to any games in any sport.
And I'm down to watching very few sporting events on TV.
But we're only one couple that's had enough and have done something about it. Until others are willing to do the same, the $$$/corruption will continue to rule the day....
Addressed at large: Choose / Eat It / And then STFU complaining about what you've freely chosen, and what you still refuse to change.
So they could then buy some CFL or NFL guys to help the team also as grad students. Heck some CFL guys could easily quadruple their salaries and make less than some of these college players while being a better player.
Jackson was one of five walk-ons awarded a scholarship for the spring semester, and has continued to impress the staff in summer workouts.
This third generation Gator could be someone to keep an eye on this season.
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BCR's
6 SEC - 1-3-5-7-10 UF-15
2 Big 12 - 4-6 - Both are heading to the SEC
Soon to have 7 of the Top 10...
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3 Big Ten - 2-12-13
2 ACC - 8-14
1 Pac 12 - 11
1 In-depends - 9
The best at taking xfers while not lowering their BCR rating: UGly, UF, Mich.
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With the terrible defensive coaching staff gone and replaced with a top quality new staff. And with several players invited to xfer out due to poor attitudes, the Gator defense will be astronomically better, right?
In 2021:
Scoring -------- UF 399 ---- Opp 348
1st Downs ----- UF 125 ----- Opp 111
Rushing/Gm -- UF 208.7 -- Opp 163.9
Rushing TD's -- UF 26 ------ Opp 19
Passing/Gm --- UF 254.2 -- Opp 203.9
Passing TD's -- UF 27 ------- Opp 19
Total Offense - UF 6,017 -- Opp 4,782
Total TD's ------ UF - 53 ----- Opp 43
Time of Poss -- UF 30:29 -- Opp 28:44
W/L Record ---- 6-7
Proving that season stats don't mean squat, just like stars and other opinions don't mean squat. ----- GOTCHA....😁
6 SEC - 1-3-5-7-10 UF-15
2 Big 12 - 4-6 - Both are heading to the SEC
Soon to have 7 of the Top 10...
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3 Big Ten - 2-12-13
2 ACC - 8-14
1 Pac 12 - 11
1 In-depends - 9
The best at taking xfers while not lowering their BCR rating: UGly, UF, Mich.
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With the terrible defensive coaching staff gone and replaced with a top quality new staff. And with several players invited to xfer out due to poor attitudes, the Gator defense will be astronomically better, right?
In 2021:
Scoring -------- UF 399 ---- Opp 348
1st Downs ----- UF 125 ----- Opp 111
Rushing/Gm -- UF 208.7 -- Opp 163.9
Rushing TD's -- UF 26 ------ Opp 19
Passing/Gm --- UF 254.2 -- Opp 203.9
Passing TD's -- UF 27 ------- Opp 19
Total Offense - UF 6,017 -- Opp 4,782
Total TD's ------ UF - 53 ----- Opp 43
Time of Poss -- UF 30:29 -- Opp 28:44
W/L Record ---- 6-7
Proving that season stats don't mean squat, just like stars and other opinions don't mean squat. ----- GOTCHA....😁
Yep pounding cupcakes to pad stats don't mean much. How do we fare in that against the SEC schedule? That would be a better indicator.
Don't care if I didn't play football while at UF I will continue to say "we" while referring to Gators football while I highly doubt former UF coaches that aren't alumni do.
We (me&U) are just fans.
They are those that are currently on the team.
So we as fans applies to us. We can support or talk about a Gator team.
But when saying we have to fight to win against UU,
that's BS imo, cause it's just they that's doing the fighting...
On this sports brd, everyone is free to say almost anything, in anyway that they choose, but it won't make it true or accurate by saying it. -- So whatever....
They are those that are currently on the team.
So we as fans applies to us. We can support or talk about a Gator team.
But when saying we have to fight to win against UU,
that's BS imo, cause it's just they that's doing the fighting...
On this sports brd, everyone is free to say almost anything, in anyway that they choose, but it won't make it true or accurate by saying it. -- So whatever....
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Whatever but like I said I will continue to say "we" like many other alumni and fans do. You can call Grantham and tell him he was the true "we" and not the hardcore Gator fans and alumni if that makes you feel better.
