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Please Just Hire Lane

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I'm tired of throwing big money at coaches that haven't proven it at UF. Kiffin gets 4.5 million right now and it would probably take 7 million or more to take over our mess.

Go after Billy Napier. He has a ton of potential and you could probably lure him here on a 4 year contract at 4 million per year salary starting out.
 
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I'm tired of throwing big money at coaches that haven't proven it at UF. Kiffin gets 4.5 million right now and it would probably take 7 million or more to take over our mess.

Go after Billy Napier. He has a ton of potential and you could probably lure him here on a 4 year contract at 4 million per year salary starting out.
Napier = willie and Norvell
 
Dude, you wanna hire Lane Kiffin....a coach who is not above abandoning us in the middle of the night in the 1st year. Don't tell me we wouldn't be as mad as UT fans were.

Saying you want Lane Kiffin is like saying you want a sporadic coach with Hugh freeze habits. Should we go ahead put ourselves on recruiting probation now or wait till the ink dries? Lol
 
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yeah, lets hire Mel Tucker or the next “up and “comer” like Billy Nappier so we can have our very own Willie or Norvell
I'm not wanting Mel Tucker. Wouldn't throw a fit if it happened to be Napier but I also wouldn't throw a party.

What's the difference between"up and comer" and an experienced HC who has never done much?

Ok sure Lane won 2 titles in the mighty CUSA. That's was his up and coming. Napier won the Sunbelt. What's the difference?

Lane in my opinion is nothing but another version of Dan Mullen. Why not just keep Mullen over getting Lane?

Both had some exciting seasons pretty much reaching the Pinnacle for Mississippi schools. Both's best success was with a top notch QB.

What exactly has Lane done that Dan hasn't done? Hell Dan beat Lane H2H.

Only difference is Lane has the resume of a big school before now. Two if you count UT as big. Lane never won big time at either if we want to get into that. He had that one lone 10 win season at USC. Hell Dan had 3 of those here at UF.

Brother, I like when you post here and hope you continue but TBH, you've been on record wanting some clowns as HC's. Rich Rodriguez being the main one that stands out. I want to say you also wanted Harbaugh didn't you? Chip Kelly as well? How are those two working out at big programs? Harbaugh finally has Michigan in the top 10 but still took the L to the "up and coming" Tucker. Didn't you also want Chad Morris? Or at least one of the ones saying Dabo wasn't much of anything without Chad Morris? How did that work out? I also remember you were huge on Tom Herman. There are a handful more but I'll have to scramble my brain around to remember.

You would always push hard and speak up loud for who you wanted. Two that stand out the most were Rich Rod and Tom Herman. Just curious why you are so hardcore for Lane Kiffin.

If not an up and comer then who? Who is established out there? Lane the only one? Why not go after Hugh Freeze then?
 
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If Kiffin can win at Old Mess he can do it at Florida. Plus he knows the recruiting area better than anyone else they could bring in. I personally think he has visions of replacing Saban as outlandish as that sounds.
 
I'm not wanting Mel Tucker. Wouldn't throw a fit if it happened to be Napier but I also wouldn't throw a party.

What's the difference between"up and comer" and an experienced HC who has never done much?

Ok sure Lane won 2 titles in the mighty CUSA. That's was his up and coming. Napier won the Sunbelt. What's the difference?

Lane in my opinion is nothing but another version of Dan Mullen. Why not just keep Mullen over getting Lane?

Both had some exciting seasons pretty much reaching the Pinnacle for Mississippi schools. Both's best success was with a top notch QB.

What exactly has Lane done that Dan hasn't done? Hell Dan beat Lane H2H.

Only difference is Lane has the resume of a big school before now. Two if you count UT as big. Lane never won big time at either if we want to get into that. He had that one lone 10 win season at USC. Hell Dan had 3 of those here at UF.

Brother, I like when you post here and hope you continue but TBH, you've been on record wanting some clowns as HC's. Rich Rodriguez being the main one that stands out. I want to say you also wanted Harbaugh didn't you? Chip Kelly as well? How are those two working out at big programs? Harbaugh finally has Michigan in the top 10 but still took the L to the "up and coming" Tucker. Didn't you also want Chad Morris? Or at least one of the ones saying Dabo wasn't much of anything without Chad Morris? How did that work out? I also remember you were huge on Tom Herman. There are a handful more but I'll have to scramble my brain around to remember.

You would always push hard and speak up loud for who you wanted. Two that stand out the most were Rich Rod and Tom Herman. Just curious why you are so hardcore for Lane Kiffin.

If not an up and comer then who? Who is established out there? Lane the only one? Why not go after Hugh Freeze then?

well I wasn’t a fire Mullen guy until yesterday, but its obvious he checked out.

lane just seems most reasonable. I would have no issue with Freeze. Have also been a big Pitman fan since the day Arky hired him.

As for Chip Kelly, doing significantly better than Frost coming from G5.

as to Napier, Saban passed on him for OC in 2007 while Lane ended up engineering two of the three best offenses in Bama history. Nappier calls his own plays and ULL is not exactly an offensive juggernaut

Aranda would also be interesting.

and I agree there is no sure thing but it seems the schools taking the “up and comers” are having very little luck

but at the end of the day we need to re-stoxk this roster with talent. And someone who could convince AR15 to stay wouldn’t hurt either
 
well I wasn’t a fire Mullen guy until yesterday, but its obvious he checked out.

lane just seems most reasonable. I would have no issue with Freeze. Have also been a big Pitman fan since the day Arky hired him.

As for Chip Kelly, doing significantly better than Frost coming from G5.

as to Napier, Saban passed on him for OC in 2007 while Lane ended up engineering two of the three best offenses in Bama history. Nappier calls his own plays and ULL is not exactly an offensive juggernaut

Aranda would also be interesting.

and I agree there is no sure thing but it seems the schools taking the “up and comers” are having very little luck

but at the end of the day we need to re-stoxk this roster with talent. And someone who could convince AR15 to stay wouldn’t hurt either
In 07 Napier only had 2 seasons as a college coach. Honestly just 1 as an assistant and 2 as a GA. His lone year of experience was at SC State. I'd hope someone as seasoned as Saban wouldn't hire a SC State QB coach as OC. If you meant he picked Lane over Napier the time after Lane was let go at USC I still wouldn't blame Saban then. Lane has a much bigger resume then vs Napier.

I do agree Up and Comers are a gamble but Lane Kiffin to replace Dan Mullen just seems like a lateral move IMO.
 
as to Napier, Saban passed on him for OC in 2007 while Lane ended up engineering two of the three best offenses in Bama history. Nappier calls his own plays and ULL is not exactly an offensive juggernaut
I think you mean 2017 on Napier. And while Bama's offenses under Lane were good from 2014-2016, I don't think they would qualify as 2 of the 3 best ever.

Now Steve Sarkisian's offenses in 2019 and 2020? Definitely two of the best ever, and last year's offense was our best ever.

I don't understand the love affair some of you have with Lane Kiffin as your TOP choice. He strikes me as the guy Florida should be forced to target after their first 2-3 choices say no.
 
I think you mean 2017 on Napier. And while Bama's offenses under Lane were good from 2014-2016, I don't think they would qualify as 2 of the 3 best ever.

Now Steve Sarkisian's offenses in 2019 and 2020? Definitely two of the best ever, and last year's offense was our best ever.

I don't understand the love affair some of you have with Lane Kiffin as your TOP choice. He strikes me as the guy Florida should be forced to target after their first 2-3 choices say no.
Lane changed the trajectory of Bama's offense from what it was under Mac and Nuss..however the 2020 Bama offense was unbelievable.

What Lane did with Blake Sims was amazing I must say.
 
In 07 Napier only had 2 seasons as a college coach. Honestly just 1 as an assistant and 2 as a GA. His lone year of experience was at SC State. I'd hope someone as seasoned as Saban wouldn't hire a SC State QB coach as OC. If you meant he picked Lane over Napier the time after Lane was let go at USC I still wouldn't blame Saban then. Lane has a much bigger resume then vs Napier.

I do agree Up and Comers are a gamble but Lane Kiffin to replace Dan Mullen just seems like a lateral move IMO.

I get the lateral move take, I really do.

I guess to me with a Kiffin or Freeze I trust their connections for a staff more than the “up and comers”
 
I get the lateral move take, I really do.

I guess to me with a Kiffin or Freeze I trust their connections for a staff more than the “up and comers”

I wonder if the big boosters would be willing to accept Lane? Some people are claiming the really big one who posts on Swamp Talk and at other sites apparently wasn't a big fan when he was first discussed but it was mostly based on what some former player at FAU or something like that had said about him. I am sure that could just be some sour grapes on the players part however. A guy who has done that much for Florida will have a lot of pull that is for sure. Hope he is at least open minded on him if we can't get Stoops out of retirement.
 
Lane changed the trajectory of Bama's offense from what it was under Mac and Nuss..however the 2020 Bama offense was unbelievable.

What Lane did with Blake Sims was amazing I must say.
What he did with Blake was phenomenal. Same with Coker. Both would have been 3rd string at most power 5 schools.

Just saying, the offense those years compared to under Sarkisian is no comparison.
 
I wonder if the big boosters would be willing to accept Lane? Some people are claiming the really big one who posts on Swamp Talk and at other sites apparently wasn't a big fan when he was first discussed but it was mostly based on what some former player at FAU or something like that had said about him. I am sure that could just be some sour grapes on the players part however. A guy who has done that much for Florida will have a lot of pull that is for sure. Hope he is at least open minded on him if we can't get Stoops out of retirement.

Thise same boosters loathed Mullen back I. The day too and still have the blessing on hiring him.

Guy can scheme and recruit. He's got swagger. I can see it working.

I just also realize h'll be gone within 3 years for another job and I have a feeling that job will be Bama.
 
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Thise same boosters loathed Mullen back I. The day too and still have the blessing on hiring him.

Guy can scheme and recruit. He's got swagger. I can see it working.

I just also realize h'll be gone within 3 years for another job and I have a feeling that job will be Bama.
Saban will hand-pick his successor. Jimbo is the clear favorite at this point IMO. Not even sure Kiffin would be in the conversation, even if he went to Florida and balled out. Also not sure Kiffin would have any interest in coming back.

Now Kiffin balling out in Florida for 2-3 years then going to USC or UCLA? I could see that.
 
Florida better be ready next year cause our first game in 2022 is against Utah that crushed Oregon yesterday
 
Saban will hand-pick his successor. Jimbo is the clear favorite at this point IMO. Not even sure Kiffin would be in the conversation, even if he went to Florida and balled out. Also not sure Kiffin would have any interest in coming back.

Now Kiffin balling out in Florida for 2-3 years then going to USC or UCLA? I could see that.

Lol you know better. Kiffin would absolutely take the Bama job out of spite.

I agree with you on most things but that's ridiculous that he "wouldn't want the job."
 
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Lol you know better. Kiffin would absolutely take the Bama job out of spite.

I agree with you on most things but that's ridiculous that he "wouldn't want the job."
If Saban says don't hire Kiffin then he's not coming. So that takes your 'out of spite' scenario off the table.

If it were about spite, the only scenario I could see would be Saban says hire him and Kiffin says no to try to spite Saban.

My 'not sure Kiffin would have any interest' comment was more about his ties. He really doesn't have any ties to Tuscaloosa.

If he was offered the job, of courses he would consider. But would he actively campaign for it? I dunno.
 
If Kiffin can win at Old Mess he can do it at Florida.

Pretty sure some people said or thought the same thing about Mullen when he was at Miss State.

Kiffin is a better recruiter, but I won't be surprised if Ole Miss gets a heavy probation because of Kiffin one day, even if he's already left for greener pastures.

If he was offered the UF job for next season, and he accepted, that would be two schools that were previously needing major help that he abandoned in 1 year or less.

I don't want UF to be the 3rd.

If the Trojans came knocking, where it's likely to be his ideal, he would be gone quickly.
 
What he did with Blake was phenomenal. Same with Coker. Both would have been 3rd string at most power 5 schools.
Yes, Jacob Coker, who barely lost the starting job to a Heisman winner and was second string on a National Championship team, would have been 3rd string at most Power 5 schools.
 
Pretty sure some people said or thought the same thing about Mullen when he was at Miss State.

Kiffin is a better recruiter, but I won't be surprised if Ole Miss gets a heavy probation because of Kiffin one day, even if he's already left for greener pastures.

If he was offered the UF job for next season, and he accepted, that would be two schools that were previously needing major help that he abandoned in 1 year or less.

I don't want UF to be the 3rd.

If the Trojans came knocking, where it's likely to be his ideal, he would be gone quickly.
Wait, didn't he already coach the Trojans?
 
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Yes, Jacob Coker, who barely lost the starting job to a Heisman winner and was second string on a National Championship team, would have been 3rd string at most Power 5 schools.
I said MOST.

Here is the Alabama depth chart at QB when Coker arrived:

Blake Sims
Alec Morris
Cooper Bateman

And Coker couldn't even win the starting job for Bama until midway through his second year against that juggernaut of QB talent.

I loved the kid. Heart of a lion and nicest kid you would ever meet. But QB talent? Not much. Kiffin did a great job with him.
 
Wait, didn't he already coach the Trojans?

Indeed he did. He's been coaching, in different positions, for USC more than anywhere else. During his time as HC he also got hit with sanctions for paying Reggie Bush and his family with the NCAA saying there was a "lack of institutional control,".

This was right after getting in trouble with recruiting violations at Tenessee .

It's a trend.

That being said, colleges don't care too much about what happened in the past unless it's a huge personal scandal. If they think Kiffen is doing great and they want a new coach, he would be back.

The USC AD that fired kiffin is longer there.
 
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