I admit without him any chance of 9-3 and another good bowl game is out the door. Trask won't be able to pick the teams we have coming up apart like that and he will be under constant pressure due to them not having to respect any running game. I think 8-4 is possible but probably nothing better as I see Auburn,LSU and Georgia eating this offense up with no decent rushing attack. I think Mullen will face a question down the road if he needs to put Jones in there as the starter to see what he has and for the experience.
Outlook for season post Franks injury...
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Jury is out for me - Trask seemed to read the defense quicker and get the ball out super fast. That may cost us turnovers and/or make consistently better in the passing game. He won't get the big time running plays I don't think.
The record will take a hit if the running game doesn't get going regardless of the QB. Outside of the Hammond-game clincher and QB runs - we had like 35 rushing yard for the other 58 mins of the game. That won't cut it.
The record will take a hit if the running game doesn't get going regardless of the QB. Outside of the Hammond-game clincher and QB runs - we had like 35 rushing yard for the other 58 mins of the game. That won't cut it.
I could be wrong but I just saw a KY secondary that was lost especially after those 2 guys went down. Trask did make some nice throws I just don't see it working that well with a bad rushing attack against the teams better than Tenn left on our schedule. We averaged like 200 yards a game rushing last season in SEC games and this year have done nothing with the RBs against the 2 teams with a pulse we played.
Kind of how I see it but Mullen won't do that until the East is out of reach probably.
Mullen said he is using both. I expect several weeks from now we will be going with Emory. And hopefully that will help Mullen use his playbook. Might as well build for the future
For all the people who consistently shit on Franks they are about to see exactly why he was the starter. He was singlehandedly carrying that offense in the first half yesterday with no run game and questionable play calling. Better hope Emory is everything he’s supposed to be.
The strongest unit on the team is the receiver group. Trask gives us the best chance to maximize their production. He got the ball out on time and made reads quickly. The offense just looked much more settled with him back there.
I actually agree with you even being one of Franks detractors. Trask not having the same mobility will make a big difference and its not going to be pretty come the Auburn game. I think Mullen is stubborn and won't make a change to Jones as the starter until the East is officially lost after the LSU game. I think we will see Jones starting the SC game.
Right now it really doesn’t matter who’s QB1. Our inability to run and run block is currently at an all time inept level. Perine seems to be lost and Malik probably isn’t fully healthy yet. Without a balanced attack, we have zero chance of beating any SEC opponent worth a darn this year.
Dad,
I'm doubt that even Jim McElwain would bring in a QB to be nothing but a back up.
Agree that Trask has a totally different skill set than Franks & that he is not the ideal QB for what is supposed to be Mullen's spread offense.
I have not seen Mullen offense anytime this season, have you ?
RETURN TO THE FUN & GUN ; The Emory and Henry !!!
There is some guy floating around campus who, a hundred years ago, was thought to know something about a drop back passing attack - can't remember his name right now but maybe Mullen could look him up & get a few tips; maybe the old guy could get MULLEN "Coached Up" a bit.
SOS for OC !
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Yes, now that a very inconsistent player has gone down we will most likely not win another game. I have my fingers crossed we can manage to beat towson to give us at least 4 wins....
I don't completely disagree Oozie, but part of our issue has been Franks can be a turnover machine. As you know probably better than anyone on this board turnovers can be deadly for a variety of reasons. A punt is always better than a TO.
We could go 8-4 if the defense plays well. I could see a really mediocre 7-5 if the defense started slipping however. Mizzu and SC are definitely games that could be tough to win now. Unless the defense played out of their minds I think Auburn, LSU and Georgia will be losses however.
I figured if FF had a good season that he would enter the next NFL draft. I think he has to come back now. If Jones gets some quality minutes this year, it could make for an interesting decision next year.
Won’t disagree about some of Franks’ reckless turnovers. The first one last night was bad, the line gave him like 15 seconds to run around before he heaved one up into double coverage. He can’t do that. But I also know that through 3 games the only time we move the ball is when he makes it happen. We’re constantly in 3rd and long because Mullen insists on being cute with this stupid under center nonsense running into 8 man fronts. At the point Franks went out last night he was completing 70+% of his passes and was our leading rusher. Trask is no run threat whatsoever, if anyone thinks we’re gonna be able to line up and throw 30+ times a game to win they’re in for a huge surprise.
With that injury not sure what will happen with this situation. If its as bad as it looks he wont be playing in the Spring I would think. If Jones is a natural he might take the job after a few games and keep it until he leaves. There will definitely be some things to be answered with Franks having 2 years left if Jones doesn't take well to starting.
This. Utilize the YAC ability of all our talented receivers. We got like 6 guys that can all YAC it up good. That's our offensive strength.
The offensive line has been the primary weak spot on the Gator football team for many years, IMO, and until we significantly improve that group the offense will continue to be inconsistent. We have talented running backs, but they have no time or room to do their thing. We have great wide receivers, but it doesn't much matter unless the QB is protected. The line is better at pass protection than run blocking, but some of the success there was Franks' ability to move around and buy time or scramble for a few yards. Can Trask do that? We'll see. But for some reason Kentucky went into a shell the 2nd half and went away from the aggressiveness on both sides of the ball that put them in the lead. The play calling at times has had me scratching my head because that was supposed to be Mullen's strength and he's no longer a novice head coach still on a learning curve. But we're 3-0, so we'll see how it plays out. I've been a Gator for decades and will be one until I die, so I just pull for the guys every week and hope for the best.
Despite our poor running game we are actually moving the ball. Look at our yards per play. It’s very good. We don’t run enough plays and the lack of a running attack hinders are ability to put more points on the board.
We pass block decent enough. The run blocking isn’t that good but I’m not going to put all of it on the oline either. Our RBs are very pedestrian right now.
By the way I don’t think Emory Jones is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is or think he will be. I’m not sure he is the answer at QB for the future either.
We pass block decent enough. The run blocking isn’t that good but I’m not going to put all of it on the oline either. Our RBs are very pedestrian right now.
By the way I don’t think Emory Jones is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is or think he will be. I’m not sure he is the answer at QB for the future either.
oozie,
How good of a runner was Shane Matthews or Danny Wuerffel ?
Did either of them win any games at UF ?
Trask runs option to Perine -
"...After UF stopped the Wildcats on a fourth-and-1 of their own, Trask took over and led the Gators to a 62-yard touchdown drive on six plays. The final play was an 8-yard touchdown run by Lamical Perine following a pitch from Trask, who was being dragged to the ground by two Kentucky defenders.
“That was definitely improvisation,” Trask said."
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...0190915-w36a7bc6qbardhpu5dirs2fzei-story.html
Trask runs for TD !
Comments from Mullen -
"...Mullen said the original plan was for Trask and redshirt freshman Emory Jones to split snaps. However, Trask got on a roll and forced Mullen to leave him in there.
“When you’re kind of more in a drop-back, Emory makes you kind of nervous because of the run, play-action and all that kind of stuff he can bring to the table,” Mullen said. “Kyle was kind of hot, so we just kind of stuck with it.”
Part of the pass-heavy attack had to do with the way Kentucky defended them, he said. They played a lot of soft man coverage, particularly after Trask entered the game. Mullen said he likes to run it slightly more than he throws it, but he’ll do whatever it takes to win.
“If you’re going to sit there and let us throw it and say, ‘We’re not going to let you run it,’ we’ll throw it,” he said.
https://insidethegators.com/s/1649/notebook-trask-cements-place-in-gators-lore
Good points. If we dont start run blocking and run scheming better it wont matter who is playing qb
Those QB’s played in a different system. If Mullen ran a drop back passing game with a strong running game to supplement Trask would be fine too but that’s now what we do. Look back at last year even as an example, the offense took off when Franks became a run threat. Without that threat Mullen offenses are pedestrian.
And Mullen’s comments are what I’ve been saying since the end of the game. All credit to Trask for executing because that was a tough situation, but Kentucky was sitting there in soft coverage and letting us get easy completions up and down the field hoping to burn clock. We’re not going to see easy completions like that against better defenses. Then how will we move the ball? Because we can’t run traditionally and our QB isn’t a threat to run either.
I think trask is a lot more composed than Franks and our offense will be better with him. He’s aware enough of what’s going on to make plays, and he sees more than his first read.
That’s just ignorant. This isn’t 1992. If it was, then Trask might have actually started for his High School team. That day in football is long gone, 95% of guys like Trask are put on the offensive line in today’s HS football.
I like Trask. Seems like a good kid. And he’s a good player, maybe not a great fit for Mullen though.
I was pulling for him to do well last night. For his sake. And I was extremely happy he did so well, it was a like living a dream for a kid that’s been on the sideline all these years. Maybe the fairy tale won’t end and something magical will happen, but the days of Trask type QBs are over in CFB.
Holy smokes, this thread is like...
Good golly...after the last decade under Mus and Mac and seeing what we’ve seen for the last year and 3 games it is astonishing that people don’t have more faith and confidence in Mullen’s ability to know that is best and trust in it....
Good golly...after the last decade under Mus and Mac and seeing what we’ve seen for the last year and 3 games it is astonishing that people don’t have more faith and confidence in Mullen’s ability to know that is best and trust in it....
Florida has already pulled two games out of their assHoly smokes, this thread is like...
Good golly...after the last decade under Mus and Mac and seeing what we’ve seen for the last year and 3 games it is astonishing that people don’t have more faith and confidence in Mullen’s ability to know that is best and trust in it....
Franks 12 of 17, 70.6% for 174 yds, 14.5 yds/comp, L-32, 1 TD, 1 Int, 1 Fum.
He was 8 for 23 yds, 2.9 ypc, 0 TD's
Franks left the game injured with the score UF 10 - 21 UK
Through 3 quarters, 216 yds of offense.
(18th consecutive start, tough break, hopeing his rehab goes well)
Trask 9 of 13, 69.2% for 126 yds, 14.0 yds/comp, L-30, 0 TD, 0 Int. 0 Fum.
He also had a 4 yard run for the go ahead TD.
For a double digit comeback road win, UF 29 - 21 UK.
In the 4th quarter 222 yards of offense including TD drives of 66 & 80 yds..
(cold off the bench, Trask, aka Clark Kent )
However, one, (part of a) game, doesn't make a career, so we'll see....
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On defense, Reese & Davis were the highlight reels, with others getting their jobs done.
However there are still some 'O-lay eddy-bears' that need to be handed out this week.
Marco and Ventrell get to start that list, but they weren't alone.
And as good as he otherwise played, Shawn Davis gets this weeks Asshat award.
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Dan, not your best game, either with play calling or with the personal used.
Copeland should at least be getting 3-4 of the usual Toney plays.
Krull needs to see more game time, and so does the full committee of RB's.
And if the upperclassmen OL can't run block, then it's time to replace them with FNG.
Because the FNG's can't be any worse and they might get better with playing time....
PS -- mostly to the fevered brain moe-ron...
I knew that Trask was #2 all along,,, and I've said so. Jones is now #2 and can still get package plays.
The upside chatter is BS --- rsJr KT 6-5 239 -- rsFr EJ 6-2 199
They have much bigger, better, stronger guys to carry the load running the ball than EJ.
By the time that Trask is gone, it'll be a fight between rsJr Jones, rsFr Richardson, and Fr Del Rio.
~ Trask looked pretty mobile when he ran in the go-ahead TD....
Others, do some homework, this kind of offense is what Trask ran in HS.
Mullen's offense calls for a QB that's willing to run the ball when it's open or needed.
Otherwise, his main job is to read the defense and distribute the ball to the play-makers.
He was 8 for 23 yds, 2.9 ypc, 0 TD's
Franks left the game injured with the score UF 10 - 21 UK
Through 3 quarters, 216 yds of offense.
(18th consecutive start, tough break, hopeing his rehab goes well)
Trask 9 of 13, 69.2% for 126 yds, 14.0 yds/comp, L-30, 0 TD, 0 Int. 0 Fum.
He also had a 4 yard run for the go ahead TD.
For a double digit comeback road win, UF 29 - 21 UK.
In the 4th quarter 222 yards of offense including TD drives of 66 & 80 yds..
(cold off the bench, Trask, aka Clark Kent )
However, one, (part of a) game, doesn't make a career, so we'll see....
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On defense, Reese & Davis were the highlight reels, with others getting their jobs done.
However there are still some 'O-lay eddy-bears' that need to be handed out this week.
Marco and Ventrell get to start that list, but they weren't alone.
And as good as he otherwise played, Shawn Davis gets this weeks Asshat award.
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Dan, not your best game, either with play calling or with the personal used.
Copeland should at least be getting 3-4 of the usual Toney plays.
Krull needs to see more game time, and so does the full committee of RB's.
And if the upperclassmen OL can't run block, then it's time to replace them with FNG.
Because the FNG's can't be any worse and they might get better with playing time....
PS -- mostly to the fevered brain moe-ron...
I knew that Trask was #2 all along,,, and I've said so. Jones is now #2 and can still get package plays.
The upside chatter is BS --- rsJr KT 6-5 239 -- rsFr EJ 6-2 199
They have much bigger, better, stronger guys to carry the load running the ball than EJ.
By the time that Trask is gone, it'll be a fight between rsJr Jones, rsFr Richardson, and Fr Del Rio.
~ Trask looked pretty mobile when he ran in the go-ahead TD....
Others, do some homework, this kind of offense is what Trask ran in HS.
Mullen's offense calls for a QB that's willing to run the ball when it's open or needed.
Otherwise, his main job is to read the defense and distribute the ball to the play-makers.
As a fan, sadgator would like to officially and formally apologize to all other fan bases for Florida being 3-0...
Didn't Auburn have to sneak a win out of their asses against Oregon? Kentucky would kick Auburn's ass.
Biased, blind, or just refusing to see what's in front of you?
TD on a Trask run / pitch option. They went for the stop on Trask, so he pitched it to Perine for a TD.
Trask on a 4 yard QB draw for a TD.
And Kyle can roll out and throw on the run, as he's shown for going on 4 years now, when given a chance to do so......
You mean the team who was picked to win the PAC 12?
Auburn probably has the best d- line in college football. They will completely demolish the joke of an offense Florida puts on the field
I don't pretend to know all the rules in college football but I didn't understand the sack on Trask, then the penalty on UK for a personal foul/targeting, which resulted in counting the sack, then the 15 yard penalty for the PF. I thought a PF penalty nullifies a sack regardless.Biased, blind, or just refusing to see what's in front of you?
TD on a Trask run / pitch option. They went for the stop on Trask, so he pitched it to Perine for a TD.
Trask on a 4 yard QB draw for a TD.
And Kyle can roll out and throw on the run, as he's shown for going on 4 years now, when given a chance to do so......
Auburn didn't play Utah. They're the actual favorites. Didn't Mario Cristobal get canned from FIU?
The chitty SEC officials left me scratching my head and my butt more than once in that game, just like they do in most games that involve any Gator team...
That may or may not be true and/or happen, but we heard the same story from the scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I, coming in with the nations 2018 #4 defense.
And oh btw, the Gator offense continues to mutate as we speak...
