OSU Back-Up Jack Miller offered
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Saw that earlier. I like it. But again....it's an evaluation. Billy doesn't know what he has right now. Hedge the bets.
An OSU friend said he had alcohol problems. I looked it up & he had a driving under the influence arrest. He completed 7of14, no TDs, no INTs
Whoa now....don't knock alcohol problems. I've been plenty successful as a responsible alcoholic.
Then again...I didn't have problems with it when I was underage.
But maybe that gives him swagger.
I don’t mind a “just in case we need him” former 5*
People need to realize he is a safety net. Not like Billy is claiming he is the next big thing. Just trying to have a roster that is balanced and prepared for an emergency
He is not coming here because Billy thinks he is Tebow. Its an insurance policy
And probably the only kid ever to drink beer in college so may want to steer
Clear
Its a backup option for AR when or if he likely gets hurt. I expect one of Del Rio or Kitna to likely hit the portal at some point as well. Maybe both.
Those meetings are this week, so I expect one or both to make a decision soon.
he plans to take Miller plus a low high schooler and then will look for his guy next year
Funny how its “trust Billy” until I don’t like the decision.
I can tell you I hate his offense and will complain (a lot) about it, but you have to let Billy do Billy. He will adjust and be great or we do this again. Either way, have to accept its his for 3-4 years and he is the one who is judged by the results no matter what our thoughts are.
I like his “take control and run it my way “ attitude. He obviously learned this from Saban.
Thinks he's a backup for you guys since Emory left. He's not a superstar or anything. Nice backup option tho
Yes I’m fine with this pickup for depth purposes. Basically a backfill for Emory and I still expect one more QB to transfer out as well.
Yeah, I don’t think anyone is touting this as game changing. Just really a replacement for Emory as the back up
Ohio State football: Jack Miller leaving is unsurprising
The Ohio State football team will have one quarterback less on their roster next season. Jack Miller is transferring, which is not surprising at all.
Ex-Ohio State QB reportedly considering SEC program as transfer destination
A former Buckeye could be heading to the SEC.
saturdaytradition.com
Scottsdale Christian freshman QB Jack Miller mentored by Tim Tebow
He’s the big kid on a small campus, and he’s got 10 more days before he steps foot in his first high school classroom.
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Michi,
Comparing his stats to C.J. Stroud (see below) easy to see why Miller transferred.
But Kyle Trask got on the field because of an injury & the rest is history. AR15 has had several injuries, so hopefully, Miller is a good get.
"...Ohio State quarterback transfer Jack Miller announced he plans to transfer to Florida over options from Auburn and Oklahoma State among others.
The 6-foot-3, 215-pound passer appeared in five games at Ohio State completing 7 of 14 passes attempted for 101 yards & rushing seven times for 22 yards and a touchdown Miller comes to Florida as a redshirt freshman.
Miller competed for the starting quarterback position before the 2021 season but the job was ultimately given to fellow class of 2020 enrollee CJ Stroud.
A redshirt freshman from Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., Stroud completed 280-of-395 for 3,862 yards and 38 touchdowns compared to just five interceptions this season, his first as a starter.
Stroud finished with 12 first-place votes, 118 second-place votes and 127 third-place votes for a total of 399 points & finished 4th in the Heisman voting.
Scot Brantley, Wilber Marshall
As long as this kid knows that he is coming in to back up AR-15. Now if he is the next Danny Wuerffel then that is a different story. I dont know if Billy likes the running type QB or a gunslinger QB.
And everyone should know by now, that there is a rather large difference between drinking a few beers with your buds, and getting arrested for driving (DUI) afterwards....
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#13 QB-PP Jack Miller 6-4 210 **** - Natl. 334 (0.8951) - Scottsdale, AZ (per 247)
He was beat out by fellow 2020 recruit for starter by 4-star CJ Stroud.
Jack Miller 6-4 / 210 per current 247 Ranking:
**** 0.8951 (HS)
*** 0.8600 (xfer)
#17 QB-DT Carlos Del Rio-Wilson 6-3 215 **** - Natl 146 (0.9357) Cartersville, GA
#56 QB-PP Jalen Kitna 6-4 200 *** - Natl. 807 (0.8609) - Bureleson, TX
I have no comment on him coming in, just posting some totally useless facts.
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Tebow,
We know little about his offense.
IMO, UF has done much better using a gunslinger than a running QB - Kyle Trask, Wuerffel, Wayne Peace, Kerwin Bell, etc.
Tim Tebow ran for tough yards, but threw for impressive yardage as well
Hoping Miller is the same. LSU got lucky with their tOSU transfer maybe we will as well.
At Florida, everything is centered around the triggerman behind center. All of our Heisman winners were.....Quarterbacks! It remains to be seen what we will look like on offense in '22. If the ULL offenses are any indication, I assume it will be a mixture of spread and actual passing attack depending on who becomes the starter next year. Everybody loves AR-15. But if Miller proves to be that guy, then we might be going back to the future (i.e. fun & gun).
Actually, we know quite a bit about his offense. Have you not listened to him? Watched ULL?
We are going to run pre-Lane Bama. One back, multiple TE, no tempo, run heavy. Or in other words, Mac’s offense. (Obviously BN will actually recruit the right players for it, unlike Chump and Mac). Everybody gets pissy when you phrase it as “Mac’s offense” but it is the same concepts Mac used here. On more than one occasion he has cited influence of Mac
Not a ton of vertical passing, QB designed runs are very minimal.
He just had a one loss season and won the Sun Belt with a pretty mediocre QB.
And since he is calling plays, QB coach, etc I would expect little change
Nah, we've been down that road before with Will Muschamp's dumb ass. That Big Dumb Muschamp football as we called it back then. I still remember being in the Superdome for the Sugar Bowl beatdown we suffered against Louisville. Three yards and a cloud of dust. I stood there on the sidelines wanting to kick his ass after he bragged in the Times Picayune newspaper about being physical and aggressive going into that game. Still pisses me off when I think about it.
Lol, at the Muschamp years.
Have you watched ULL? Listened to Billy? Unless he drastically changes something we are getting Mac-like offense, minus the inept HBC. Is what it is. Hopefully we do it well this time
I mean I'll have to look again but I thought I saw it out of the shot gun, decent amount of pistol. Movement in the backfield out of the pistol. But again I'll have to watch again.
Pre-Lane was practically 2 TE single back and I-formation under mostly center.
that's not how I would describe Billy's offense, but I'll go back and watch the film.
Pre-Lane was practically 2 TE single back and I-formation under mostly center.
that's not how I would describe Billy's offense, but I'll go back and watch the film.
Its Mac’s offense except Billy understands what he needs to make it work.
Everyone gets all bent out of shape assuming “Mac’s offense” means it sucks. No, it is similar formations and shifts and without tempo. Doesn’t mean it will have the same results, Mac was a moron.
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Better way to put it. When we hired Mac I watched his CSU film.
ULL offense is damn near identical to that.
They averaged 412 yards and 31 points per game. Certainly not lighting the world on fire.
Just a FYI -- From the ULL 2021 Roster: 8 QB's
QB-DT Levi Lewis 5-10 185 *** Sr
2021 Sun Belt Champions
P - 236 of 391 60.4%, for 2,917 Yds, 20 TD's, 4 Ints, L-55
R - 100 for 343, 3.4 YPC, 5 TD's, L-56
• 2020 Second Team All-Sun Belt Conference
• 2020 Davey O'Brien Quarterback Class
• 2020 Manning Award Preseason Watch List
• 2020 Maxwell Award Preseason Watch List
• 2020 Davey O’Brien Award Preseason Watch List
• 2020 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Preseason Watch List
• 2020 College Football Performance National Watch List
• 2020 Reese’s Senior Bowl Top 250
~ A civil engineering major.
Prep: 1st Team 5-A and the 5A State Champs.
Was the winner of the 2016 Warrick Dunn Award
2X State Champ in B-Ball.
On SMHS' State Championship 4x200-meter & 4x400-meter relay teams.
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QB Ben Woodridge 6-4 218 ** rsSo
QB Lance LeGendre 6-1 215 **** rsFr - Maryland xfer
Apparently a 4-star xfer couldn't beat him out to start.
QB Chandler Fields 5-10 190 *** rsFr
QB Hunter Herring 6-4 201 *** Fr
QB Zy McDonald 5-10 183 *** Fr
QB Parker Sellhan 6-4 218 Fr NR
QB Dale Martin 6-2 190 Fr NR
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As I stated above, its not that kind of offense. No tempo, run heavy. Billy isn’t here to put up points.
There was nothing schematically wrong with Mac’s scheme or offense. The problem was the OC and the personnel. If he had kept Grier and got some offensive playmakers it probably would of been a very good offense. We saw glimpses of it prior to Grier leaving. Then once Grier left he never got a decent QB.
That’s why I hate saying “Mac’s offense”
But that is what it is. Just run by competent people instead of those clowns.
A Statistical Breakdown of the 2021 ULL Offense:
They scored 35+ points 5 times.
They scored 27+ points 9 times.
They only gave up 27+ points twice.
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2021 Season Team Stats - 14 Gms
Passing - 246 of 405 (60.7%) for 3,060 yds, 22 TD's, 4 Ints
19 Players with a reception.
11 Players with double digit receptions.
10 Players with a TD reception.
Rushing - 541 for 2,756 yds, 5.1 YPC, 34 TD's,
8 Players with a run.
5 Players with a TD run.
4 Players with over 100 carries.
3 Players with over 640 yds rushing.
~ Those top 3 runners averaged a combined 5.7 YPC with 28 TD's.
Run 57.2% ----- Pass 42.8%.
They scored 35+ points 5 times.
They scored 27+ points 9 times.
They only gave up 27+ points twice.
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2021 Season Team Stats - 14 Gms
Passing - 246 of 405 (60.7%) for 3,060 yds, 22 TD's, 4 Ints
19 Players with a reception.
11 Players with double digit receptions.
10 Players with a TD reception.
Rushing - 541 for 2,756 yds, 5.1 YPC, 34 TD's,
8 Players with a run.
5 Players with a TD run.
4 Players with over 100 carries.
3 Players with over 640 yds rushing.
~ Those top 3 runners averaged a combined 5.7 YPC with 28 TD's.
Run 57.2% ----- Pass 42.8%.
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