Anyone with a clue could see that. The only people who thought Franks did poorly are the people who didn't wanna start him to begin with. What's extremely annoying is them saying they put Zaire in to get a spark when the reason we didn't have a damn spark to begin with is because they called the game about as conservatively as possible.
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I assumed it was to counter act the poor blocking with Zaire's mobility.
But I'm serious about this...he looked like a right handed guy trying to be left handed.
He looked so uncomfortable and awkward it hurt.
LOL
He's been terrible which is why I had no idea why so many people wanted him starting. Dude could be on dancing with the stars with those happy feet.
I've seen enough out of Franks to see that he has potential to be a good college QB. In fact with good coaching and a good system he could be very good.
He's just a freshmen so I hope he gets good coaching before he leaves here at UF because he has lots of ability.
Agree. The way the cuffed him and then benched him for trying to make a play running for his life behind their shit oline legit had me mad. Basically threw him under the bus is the way I looked at it.
I will give Franks credit if he has a decent game. I hope he can so we don't lose to Tennessee.
Tough to judge Franks either positively or negatively off of that horror show. There were basically two plays all game where they set him up to throw and he wasn't immediately caved in by their defensive line or stepped on by ours. His first quarter throw down the sideline was the best downfield throw that I've seen by a Gator qb in quite a while. He made one play running all on his own, and the fumble play was a pretty good play by him, he just tried to do too much.
Bottom line is that our offensive line was completely over matched, physically, mentally and strategically. That's on the coaches 100 percent.
I think Tennessee is not that good. They're almost our mirror image. The uniform looks like a big time team, and they have some players, but we're both too disorganized to compete with teams that have their stuff together. With the injury to Eason, I wouldn't be surprised if USC wins the East.
Their defense I have no idea because a GT game doesn't really tell you anything there. As far as offense I lean to them not being that good but I could picture them unlike us actually driving the ball down the field passing it if they had to but they also look suspect when it comes to speed rush DEs so we may cause all kinds of problems for them if we dont just let them run for 3rd and longs like Michigan.
I would buy your reasoning on GT if that was further in the season where they have just one week to prepare for that offense, but they had an entire off-season. Giving up 500 yards rushing is bad by any standard, that's horrific defense. They're also very injured and don't seem to have much depth.
Watch this happen.
Ok, I know we suck at the running game. But UT looked bad trying to stop the run.
Mc-Nuss are probably going to air the heck out of the ball that game.
Will remind us of Zook vs Ole Miss his first year. A week before Ole Miss gave up like 400-500 or so passing yards to Texas Tech. Zook's plan was to establish the run first.
Our staff will find nor exploit any weaknesses UT defense has. They will probably try to attack whatever strength UT defense has.
Seesh I'm Junior high level in coaching but watching last night's game I'd definitely throw in a few packages with a FB and TB in the same backfield and use some of Franks athleticism. Bet Mc Nuss won't...at all.
You already know. We don't change much of anything from week to week. Cept maybe the first 10-15 scripted plays then it's back to business as usual.
They'll throw in a wrinkle.
We moved the up back over two steps to the right. Kept them from blocking our punts.
I'll believe that when I see it. We could have aired it out against Michigan with Franks but we didn't.
Both Franks and Zaire were exactly as good/bad as I thought they'd be. 
The Mc-Nuss offensive system is exactly that,,,, OFFENSIVE!
It reminds me of Charlie Cheeseburger's 'schematic advantage' offense...
The Mc-Nuss offensive system is exactly that,,,, OFFENSIVE!
It reminds me of Charlie Cheeseburger's 'schematic advantage' offense...
Both Franks and Zaire were exactly as good/bad as I thought they'd be.
The Mc-Nuss offensive system is exactly that,,,, OFFENSIVE!
It reminds me of Charlie Cheeseburger's 'schematic advantage' offense...
And now Trask is injured and not able to suit up.
Well sink your own ship.
But don't forget the sharks are still looking to seek revenge.
I just hope we beat Northern Colorado! As for the title of this thread, I really didn't see an offensive scheme in the Michigan game. Playcalling was bland, predictable and unimaginative, with no seeming adjustments to what the defense was doing. The Gator offense for the last 3 years has not had a real identity on offense. What is it? What, specifically, are they trying to do? They don't get the ball in the hands of the playmakers nearly enough and I can't tell - are they a running team? Hell no! Are they a slant, bubble screen team? I can't tell. Are they a deep post or fade team? Not really. What the heck are they? Until the coaches define with the players what their goals are on offense, how can they prepare and execute a true game plan?
Maybe because some thought we maybe had a chance with him. Lets see what Franks did with his first start against a good defense and having a crappy O line - he naively put the team in big danger tossing the ball back to the RB just missing creating a recovered fumble when his foot got stepped on. He fumbled the ball with no one's hands even near the ball before he even stretched out for the first down. He wasn't creating any first downs at all hardly. Except for not throwing any picks he basically "Driskeled" twice in his first half-game start and still hasn't shown anything except a strong arm in the spring game or that game. People can sugar coat it all they want but that wasn't a good debut at all. I hope he shows something against Tenn because I know this game isn't really a true test when its a team that gives up scores in the 40s routinely to FCS teams. I am still holding out hope for Franks however but I just want to see it first.
That's what I was thinking at the time. It was obvious that the offense was dead in the water by the third quarter. Not that it was necessarily his fault, we were getting whipped on the offensive line and the playcalling was absurdly conservative, but we were going nowhere with Franks. I basically was hoping Zaire would just make some things happen on his own on broken plays, because our designed plays were completely overmatched. And Zaire did make a couple plays early. He had the one nice throw down the sideline on a scramble. But Michigan's defense was way too organized, and their d-line and backers were just stampeding our backfield, for that to be sustainable and it quickly became apparent that we weren't going to score with Zaire either. I thought they should have pulled Zaire for Del Rio early in the fourth quarter, and see if he could hit some quick stuff.
But in any event, our offense's issues weren't about the qb. Not that they were any good, but we were getting whipped literally everywhere else.
I was hoping maybe he could create a few plays with his legs but Michigan was coming so quick it didnt matter. Their defense looked like it was blitzing even when it wasn't because they were tearing the O line up so bad. I think the actual blitz numbers were about 50% on Franks passing attempts and 80% on Zaire's passing attempts according to SEC Channel. I guess maybe on the passing they shouldn't be dogged too bad since their wasn't hardly anyone getting separation when you watch some of that game.
Michigan just did what most teams have done to us over the last decade. Load up the box and bring pressure. Why would anyone do anything different?
How was Franks 'Driskeling'? He was 5-9, 75 yards and one throw was a clear throwaway. So 5-8, 75 yards, 63%. The first trip the center stepped on his foot backing out from under center, not sure how that's on the QB. The second trip his path was impeded again. His fumble he made a very good play escaping pressure but of course people only focus on the fumble and pin all the blame on him rather than acknowledging the defender made a good play. If the oline was blocking worth a damn he wouldn't have been running to begin with.
He didn't 'create any first downs' because the idiot coaches spent 3 quarters running into a brick wall with no success. How exactly is the QB to blame when they let him throw 2 times per quarter? How is he supposed to move the offense doing that? With jedi mind tricks? I really wanna know. They're not letting him throw and we're in constant 2nd and 3rd and longs after they run into a brick wall, hence the 20 yards rushing. How exactly was he to move the offense? I wanna hear this.
I agree with all this, but it was still obvious that the offense was dead by the third quarter. I mean, no chance to pick up a first down, let alone points. In my desperation, I basically hoped that Zaire would come in and just turn a broken play (they were all broken plays at that point) into a long run or maybe buy some time and hit someone long. Given all the circumstances, I thought Franks did some good things. Like I said in another thread, I think he had maybe four plays total where he dropped back and didn't either get stepped on by his o-line or immediately get smashed in the face by Michigan's d-line. The one throw he made was beautiful, and he made some plays running.
Don't disagree with your hope for broken players, you're right it was the only hope left. I'm just saying the offense was dead because they literally made no attempt at actually trying to move the ball. They just ran, had no success, then said "welp guess we can't do anything" series after series. 9 pass attempts in 3 quarters of play is pathetic, most teams have that in one quarter. It's one of the most cowardly gameplans I've ever seen.
That's the point though. Although inexperienced Mich's defense strength was it's NFL prospects on the DL and LBer.
So instead of attacking with the WR's they decided to run at them.
GT showed that you can run the FB, RB, and QB on UT but I bet we won't change one simple thing on running the ball at them.
This will probably be the game they decide to toss the ball around.
GT who rarely throws deep passes actually had some success throwing deep against UT.
We will not run at them with any power formations nor go deep. It will probably be a bubble screen short passing type game plan...if you call it a plan.
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Offensive game plan is an oxymoron with this staff.
Follow the script is the only plan they have. After that, just play ball.
And after Perine got stuffed at the line of scrimmage on back to back plays to the right, every series,I would imagine a coaching staff with a room temperature IQ would have tried something different.
I loved how Malik Davis came in, showed a really good burst and picked up 8 yards, then never saw the field again. It was almost like they said to themselves "man he may actually score if we give it to him again, let's try somebody else." Crazy.
If you listen to Mac, they want to do what they did and Bama and use the run game to set everything up. But without a bunch of NFL OL and RB we can't avg 6 ypc. So the real problem lies in that these guys Have NO idea how to adjust. Its like "shit we can't run, cash it in". I mean it was so obvious from the get go on the series where Eddy missed the FG, TD was not even on their mind, play it safe and kick. These guys are a joke
It's so odd, especially when they've said a million times they were looking for a spark. Why not try to get the ball to different playmakers then? Try Malik, Toney, Massey, any of the skill guys. Instead they subbed out the guy they let throw 9 times (the same guy who's arm they've gushed about) and then decided to go air raid with the option QB to try to get a spark. It's so hilariously stupid.
I have a bad feeling about the Tenn game now as that QB will now get to settle in a lot more against a patsy and he didn't look that bad in the 2nd half after struggling early. Franks needed N Colorado to get some playing time in.
He naively put the team in big danger tossing the ball back to the RB just missing creating a recovered fumble for Michigan when his foot got stepped on instead of just securing it and he fumbled the ball to Michigan with no one's hands even near the ball before he even stretched out for the first down. Those are "Driskeling" plays because Driskel did crap like that all the time under pressure.
That's not even anywhere close to what Driskel used to do. That wasn't throwing into triple coverage, or holding the ball and taking a strip sack, or running out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. Franks got stepped on and right before hitting the turf he tried to push the ball into the back's open arms seemingly to avoid a huge loss. Should he have done it? No. But taking that one play which wasn't caused by him and saying he was 'Driskeling' and couldn't move the offense is just ridiculous. When they actually let him do anything he was adequate.
Driskel did do mess similar go watch the Georgia game in 2012 and his 4 turnovers. Franks tossed the ball dangerous as hell and should have just secured it when falling down. One play? - He fumbled with no one even near the ball and not even in the stretch out yet for a 1st down.
LOL, your bias is showing again. Tossing a ball to a back near not even a feet away from him resembles a 4 turnover game how? And to say he fumbled with no one near him is again ridiculous here's the pic of the fumble right here, the defender reached around him and knocked him out. You people see what you wanna see. You were calling for Zaire after the first series and your view of the game is clouded by exactly that, you haven't wanted Franks starting dating back to spring.
Well we all support what points we think we have saw. I just watchewd some of that game no defenderLOL, your bias is showing again. Tossing a ball to a back near not even a feet away from him resembles a 4 turnover game how? And to say he fumbled with no one near him is again ridiculous here's the pic of the fumble right here, the defender reached around him and knocked him out. You people see what you wanna see. You were calling for Zaire after the first series and your view of the game is clouded by exactly that, you haven't wanted Franks starting dating back to spring.
LOL, your bias is showing again. Tossing a ball to a back near not even a feet away from him resembles a 4 turnover game how? And to say he fumbled with no one near him is again ridiculous here's the pic of the fumble right here, the defender reached around him and knocked him out. You people see what you wanna see. You were calling for Zaire after the first series and your view of the game is clouded by exactly that, you haven't wanted Franks starting dating back to spring.
lol - Tap it forward from the 8:35 mark - The defender is wrapped around him below and never touches the ball - Franks goes to reach it out and loses it fumbling it to Michigan. A typical "Driskeling" play.
An 8:35 freeze and 8:36 freeze shows his arm went around the waste not to the ball.
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