Now that K. Smart is new HC @ GU... will Alligators continue to beat Bulldogs?
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I Think uga will have a bit more fire in the belly for sure, but no idea if it will translate into more wins. Muschamp and Saban are both D guys, yet one has been insanely successful while the other is a sore subject around these parts. FWIW, it cannot hurt uga since Richt struggled to beat UF's mediocre squads let alone hang with UF's better teams. It was a good move for uga to at least get rid of Richt, imo.
Guess we will find out how much of that Bama defense was Saban or Smart(I'm sure he absorbed plenty along the way but....). He might be the next best thing but is a large part of his hiring simply because he went to school there? If so that seems like a bad hiring process. Same goes fro Richt and Miami. IMO that would be a terrible fit.
This is the best possible outcome for UF. Regardless of what you think of Richt he wins 75% of his games. And they were most likely a tipped pass away from winning it all in 2012. So they fire Richt and replaces him with a guy who A. Has no head coaching experience and B. Does nothing to fix their biggest issue. UGA's defense is fine, anybody convinced Kirby Smart is going to excite offensive recruits?
The funny part about it is no one has any idea exactly what Kirby Smart does. That's Saban's defense, always has been always will be. Every coordinator looks good under him on that side of the ball. I'm trying to think of all of Saban's coordinators that have left and succeeded in their own and Muschamp is the only one I can think of, and that's a mixed bag. Smart has never been a coordinator anywhere else. So they basically fired the coach with the highest winning % in their history to hire Saban's Waterboy. I couldn't be happier.
The funny part about it is no one has any idea exactly what Kirby Smart does. That's Saban's defense, always has been always will be. Every coordinator looks good under him on that side of the ball. I'm trying to think of all of Saban's coordinators that have left and succeeded in their own and Muschamp is the only one I can think of, and that's a mixed bag. Smart has never been a coordinator anywhere else. So they basically fired the coach with the highest winning % in their history to hire Saban's Waterboy. I couldn't be happier.
Hoping Uga's hiring of a defensive coord with no HC experience results in the same thing as our 2 blunders.
One of our "blunders" went 2-1 against Richt and prevented him from winning a NC. Only lost to Richt as a lame duck fired coach. Lol
Smart to UGA is great for us IMO. They should have just kept Richt if that is the best they can do.
Kidding aside, the new guy inherits a stacked football team. The right guy could turn it around fast, if a 9-3 record is so bad that it needs to be turned around.
Really surprised they went defensive. Rarely works. We'll soon see if this is one of those times.
sadgator thinks so. When you look across college football very few defensive coordinators make the jump to head coach successfully. Stoops and Saban are always the primary examples. And Stoops has had his down periods. Saban is very good at hiring the right people and getting out of their way. It takes a unique personality to do that effectively. Maybe Smart is one of those guys. Not at all saying he can't be successful, just that it is a bigger risk.
More important than all that is Saban took a lot of beatings before he got to where he was. And at Bama, he's bent the rules for sure. At MSU Saban lost 5 games a year. And even at LSU he was average despite the national title. I believe that's the only season he had less than 3 losses while at LSU. So he had to earn stripes. Stoops I think really benefitted from being under Spurrier, even for that one year because he learned the value of offense unlike a lot of defensive coaches.
Experience matters. Read earlier this month that of the coordinators that have been hired to HC gigs in the last 10 years, all of them except one (David Shaw) have been fired already. So it don't look good hiring coordinators to their first gigs, especially at major schools. It's even tougher when that coordinator has no experience developing the side of the ball (offense) with the most important position on the field (QB). I'm a defensive guy and have always preferred an offense first coach for that reason. Well that and the complexity of both units. Much harder to be good on offense.
Experience matters. Read earlier this month that of the coordinators that have been hired to HC gigs in the last 10 years, all of them except one (David Shaw) have been fired already. So it don't look good hiring coordinators to their first gigs, especially at major schools. It's even tougher when that coordinator has no experience developing the side of the ball (offense) with the most important position on the field (QB). I'm a defensive guy and have always preferred an offense first coach for that reason. Well that and the complexity of both units. Much harder to be good on offense.
Back to Muschamp, early in his Florida experience, many of us opined that Muschamp might well be a good HC at some point in his career. Just probably not at Florida. I was one of those expressing that opinion.
Now I am not so sure. If Muschamp were our coach this year and had the same record as Mac, he would be defending his offense. Mac understands how bad it is, and says so.
Now I am not so sure. If Muschamp were our coach this year and had the same record as Mac, he would be defending his offense. Mac understands how bad it is, and says so.
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I'm not so sure UGA is stacked to be honest. They have lots of defensive talent but as of right now they have nothing at QB and nothing at WR and their oline is just average. Their offense is in need a lot of talent outside of Nick Chubb.
I personally don't like defensive minded head coaches. They fail much much more than they succeed. UF can be used as an example.
I personally don't like defensive minded head coaches. They fail much much more than they succeed. UF can be used as an example.
Like all of Saban's former coaches we should expect him to fail. McElwain is a bust wouldn't you say? Here, this might help. No sense in staying ignorant your entire life.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/...xplains-what-dc-kirby-smart-is-really-good-at
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/12/where_will_kirby_smart_fall_in.html
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At the very least we can be sure Smart's 85 scholly's won't consist of a dozen walk ons.
ORLY?
Let's see:
Pete Carroll
Bear Bryant
Barry Switzer
Urban Meyer
David Shaw
Gary Patterson
Brian Kelly
Kirk Ferentz
Tommy Tuberville
Pat Dye
Lou Holtz
John Robinson
Jimmy Johnson
Butch Davis
All played a defensive position in college. The large majority were also defensive position coaches and then defensive coordinators before becoming head coaches. They all as head coaches have either won a MNC; played for one; or had sustained success at high level for more than a decade.
I only went back to the 1980s.
If I had included coaches who played on the offensive line then the list would have grown substantially and included coaches like Woody Hayes, Bo Schembecler and Lavell Edwards.
So maybe hiring a defensive minded coach isn't actually the kiss of death.
What do you think?
Didn't Meyer's recognition come as WR coach at ND?
And Brian Kelly is an offensive innovator. He put up ridiculous numbers as HBC at Grand Valley St (school only graduates the highest quality people
)I mean I think its more in approach. For instance Stoops is an uber aggressive coach with D background. They don't come more conservative than Harbaugh and he was a QB.
No?
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