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Could be a long season for sure. As tough as our schedule is, there is only one team that has us majorly outgunned and that is GA.

Yep GA and probably LSU. FSU is probably a better veteran team but not really more talented than us but experience counts for sure. Teams like TN, KY, AR and Utah are problems because they have us outgunned at the most important position.
 
It's been a really long time since the Gators QB room has been this disrespected.....
The big questions in that disrespect are:

Poor coaching evaluations on recruits, and even more so on 3 xfers?
Coaching incompetence of the QB's? (need a dedicated QB coach)
Offensive System deficiencies in and of itself vs SEC defenses?
System to current players incompatibility?

Anyone want to take a shot at where the root problem(s) is/are coming from???
 
I also love that some of you know in depth behind the scenes details of how people are being coached.

Spurrier couldn't coach a top recruit like Noah Brindise or Brock Berlin, guess he wasn't coaching them enough. Should probably have hired a real "dedicated" QB coach.

God forbid Max Brown is just a project QB and not some hidden superstar that is being completely ignored and lied to by his coach.

It's a sinister plot to ruin his life, obviously.
 
It's been a really long time since the Gators QB room has been this disrespected.....
The big questions in that disrespect are:

Poor coaching evaluations on recruits, and even more so on 3 xfers?
Coaching incompetence of the QB's? (need a dedicated QB coach)
Offensive System deficiencies in and of itself vs SEC defenses?
System to current players incompatibility?

Anyone want to take a shot at where the root problem(s) is/are coming from???

I think it might be likely we don't have a good SEC QB on the roster now. Napier has to take the blame for not recruiting one blue chip high school QB his first 2 classes. As far as Mertz the blame might be more on the money people not willing to pay at the time for a proven one like the one that went to KY. Miller was maybe false hope he was better than he appears to be in his limited playing time up to now.
 
I think it might be likely we don't have a good SEC QB on the roster now. Napier has to take the blame for not recruiting one blue chip high school QB his first 2 classes. As far as Mertz the blame might be more on the money people not willing to pay at the time for a proven one like the one that went to KY. Miller was maybe false hope he was better than he appears to be in his limited playing time up to now.

Billy, when he flipped Brown, called him a highly under-rated 3-star (a 4-star), so he has what is imo a blue chip QB on the roster, but where he's failed is in going crappy but experienced xfer QB's over his own HS recruit.

SEC Media Days comment: And we have been really pleased with a young player, Max Brown. He's had a good summer. He's impressed the staff and he's impressed his teammates.
>>> Which allows the iG to still hold out some hope for 2023....


Mertz - 460 of 773 59.5%, for 5,405 Yds, 39 TD's, 19 Ints, 49 Sac, RTG 133.2
Miller ----
20 of 36 55.5% for for 281 Yds, 0 TD's, 0 Ints, 4 Sac, RTG 119.2
Brown - As yet unused....
HS OK 3A MVP, 25-2, 70+%, 7.8 YPC --- Sr 61 TD's to 4 TO's.

The iG's WAG on 2023:


Miller starts, 5 wins
Mertz starts, 6 wins
Brown starts 7-8 wins
 
Billy, when he flipped Brown, called him a highly under-rated 3-star (a 4-star), so he has what is imo a blue chip QB on the roster, but where he's failed is in going crappy but experienced xfer QB's over his own HS recruit.

SEC Media Days comment: And we have been really pleased with a young player, Max Brown. He's had a good summer. He's impressed the staff and he's impressed his teammates.
>>> Which allows the iG to still hold out some hope for 2023....


Mertz - 460 of 773 59.5%, for 5,405 Yds, 39 TD's, 19 Ints, 49 Sac, RTG 133.2
Miller ----
20 of 36 55.5% for for 281 Yds, 0 TD's, 0 Ints, 4 Sac, RTG 119.2
Brown - As yet unused....
HS OK 3A MVP, 25-2, 70+%, 7.8 YPC --- Sr 61 TD's to 4 TO's.

The iG's WAG on 2023:


Miller starts, 5 wins
Mertz starts, 6 wins
Brown starts 7-8 wins

I think he may get his chance due to things being rough but the coaches always talk like that about players usually.
 
I also love that some of you know in depth behind the scenes details of how people are being coached.

Spurrier couldn't coach a top recruit like Noah Brindise or Brock Berlin, guess he wasn't coaching them enough. Should probably have hired a real "dedicated" QB coach.

God forbid Max Brown is just a project QB and not some hidden superstar that is being completely ignored and lied to by his coach.

It's a sinister plot to ruin his life, obviously.
Shame on Napier!!
 
I give Napier the benefit of the doubt on who should be starting at QB as he doesn't have a clear history of sticking with a QB too long solely because they have more experience like Mullen had at multiple places. I think if Brown was clearly better in practice this spring than Mertz or Miller he would be giving him a chance to start @ Utah.
 
AR was not a willing runner. As in he hardly ever kept the ball on a read option play. He’s not a good/accurate passer. What he was good at was making explosive plays here and there that led to TDs, etc but he certainly wasn’t consistent. I also happen to think he’s fairly “soft” but I do wish him the best of luck and I do think he’s a good kid that has a good head on his shoulders. I happen to think he didn’t always play with 100% effort at times and saved himself. He was always going to the NFL no matter what.
 
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Billy, when he flipped Brown, called him a highly under-rated 3-star (a 4-star), so he has what is imo a blue chip QB on the roster, but where he's failed is in going crappy but experienced xfer QB's over his own HS recruit.

SEC Media Days comment: And we have been really pleased with a young player, Max Brown. He's had a good summer. He's impressed the staff and he's impressed his teammates.
>>> Which allows the iG to still hold out some hope for 2023....


Mertz - 460 of 773 59.5%, for 5,405 Yds, 39 TD's, 19 Ints, 49 Sac, RTG 133.2
Miller ----
20 of 36 55.5% for for 281 Yds, 0 TD's, 0 Ints, 4 Sac, RTG 119.2
Brown - As yet unused....
HS OK 3A MVP, 25-2, 70+%, 7.8 YPC --- Sr 61 TD's to 4 TO's.

The iG's WAG on 2023:


Miller starts, 5 wins
Mertz starts, 6 wins
Brown starts 7-8 wins
Keep in mind that Mertz was a very highly rated QB coming out of high school. 63 overall prospect in the class and one of the top rated passing QBs. So I guess based on your logic he got horrible coaching at Wisky, right? I mean afterall he put up gaudy numbers in high school.
 
Keep in mind that Mertz was a very highly rated QB coming out of high school. 63 overall prospect in the class and one of the top rated passing QBs. So I guess based on your logic he got horrible coaching at Wisky, right? I mean afterall he put up gaudy numbers in high school.

Any HS QB can succeed or fail at the next level. well duh...

>>> IMOHO! <<<
Miller has already failed. (see stats)
Mertz has already failed. (see stats)
Brown has yet to be given solid timely coaching and a full fair chance.
2023 Spring, the 1st team snaps were split between Mertz and Miller.
The result was a measly 17 Pts in the O&B game.

Will Brown fail or succeed is the as yet,,, unanswered question...
But since Brown had better HS Run & Pass numbers than Tebow had at the same 3A HS level, I'd say that Max sure as hell deserves his chance to get it done....
🤓

Then IF he fails too, they are no worse off than they'd be with the M&M boyz....
 
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I think he may get his chance due to things being rough but the coaches always talk like that about players usually.
So feveredbrains, anything the coach says about your 'Miller Time,' 2022 hero, or about the next FNG xfer Mertz, is absolute solid, honest coaching evaluation.

While anything any of the coaches or fellow teammates say about Brown is just coach-speak, or teammates not saying bad things about Max??? TYPICAL.... 🙄
 
So feveredbrains, anything the coach says about your 'Miller Time,' 2022 hero, or about the next FNG xfer Mertz, is absolute solid, honest coaching evaluation.

While anything any of the coaches or fellow teammates say about Brown is just coach-speak, or teammates not saying bad things about Max??? TYPICAL.... 🙄

Well he didn't say Max still has a lot to learn this time and gave the usual response on questions like that.
 
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Any HS QB can succeed or fail at the next level. well duh...

>>> IMOHO! <<<
Miller has already failed. (see stats)
Mertz has already failed. (see stats)
Brown has yet to be given solid timely coaching and a full fair chance.
2023 Spring, the 1st team snaps were split between Mertz and Miller.
The result was a measly 17 Pts in the O&B game.

Will Brown fail or succeed is the as yet,,, unanswered question...
But since Brown had better HS Run & Pass numbers than Tebow had at the same 3A HS level, I'd say that Max sure as hell deserves his chance to get it done....
🤓

Then IF he fails too, they are no worse off than they'd be with the M&M boyz....
He will most likely get his chance. And if does fail you will most likely blame the coaches.
 
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He will most likely get his chance. And if does fail you will most likely blame the coaches.

I don't need to blame anyone.
What the Admin, the UAA, the AD, the Coaches, and the players put on the field/court is there for anyone to see and judge for themselves.

What I saw in 2022, was 2 brand spanking new ALL WORLD coaches stink on ice, both losers.
What they do each year is up to them, and it's ON THEM.

What I, you, or anyone else talks about on a freakin' sports msg brd is of ZERO consequence.... 🙄
 
I don't need to blame anyone.
What the Admin, the UAA, the AD, the Coaches, and the players put on the field/court is there for anyone to see and judge for themselves.

What I saw in 2022, was 2 brand spanking new ALL WORLD coaches stink on ice, both losers.
What they do each year is up to them, and it's ON THEM.

What I, you, or anyone else talks about on a freakin' sports msg brd is of ZERO consequence.... 🙄
But you do...frequently....
 
But you do...frequently....

Cg1, that's because I choose to do so, when I think it's needed, and not because I NEED to. Socialist U has fallen a long way in many instances imo. 🤓

But how about yourself? You're certainly no Mother Theresa here yourself....
Pot / Kettle... 😛
 
Cg1, that's because I choose to do so, when I think it's needed, and not because I NEED to. Socialist U has fallen a long way in many instances imo. 🤓

But how about yourself? You're certainly no Mother Theresa here yourself....
Pot / Kettle... 😛

Lol wtf does that even mean.

Only you.
 
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As 'Talking Season' is winding down....

Mertz started every regular season game for the third consecutive season. In his three years as the starter, Mertz went 19-13,,,, for an average of 6.3 wins/season, while giving up 49 sacks.

In 2022, Mertz started and he completed 164-of-286, 57.3% for 2,136 yards and 19 TD to 10 Ints, for a less than 2 to 1 ratio, and all were his career season bests.

After four seasons at Wisconsin, Graham Mertz entered the transfer portal at the conclusion of the 2022 campaign, and nobody, including their new HC tried to stop him from leaving. He was judged by the new guy as not good enough for Wis, so now he's at UF vs SEC defenses. 🙄

The shout from some is that they NEED an experienced QB... In the iG;s experience, there are two kinds of experience,,, good and BAD..... How he will fare if he's the starter is a question that won't be answered until UF opens the regular season. (he would likely fair much better as the backup)

As the potential starting quarterback for the Gators, Mertz is, obviously, in a position of utmost importance. His play will either aid or hinder the team's chances this season, as the Gators can't resort solely to running the football behind Montrell Johnson and Trevor Etienne. The Gators will have to establish themselves downfield behind Mertz for UF's offense to be at its best this season. (and looking at what's gone before, how likely is that?) 🤓
 
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SO?
You again failed to point out the importance...


PS - Thanks for counting up my 1,000 words.
It seems that you do have some minor use after all....
😁
 
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As 'Talking Season' winds down. --- JMOHO's as always....

TE Nick Elksnis 6-6 234 came to UF because he saw how Dan used Kyle Pitts.
TE Nick Elksnis (zero rec's) left UF for SCa after he saw how Billy used his TE's
"While he didn't have any stats to back it up, many people (+iG) viewed Elksnis favorably and thought he had the potential to emerge as a viable pass-catching tight end for the Gators." 😏

TE Keon Zipperer, the 22 starter, is out for 2023 with a blown ACL.
(he has just one touchdown over his last two years, he may be back in 24)

TE Zanders, the co-starter with Keon in 22, is not the best TE on the 23 roster.
(he had ZERO TD's in 22)

>>> The double Z's suffered to many drops in 22, they both need to live on the Juggs machine.


TE Arlis Boardingham rsFr -- Zero Rec. in the LV Bowl
But 2023 Spring performance now has him in the 23 2-deep.
HS TE+WR (like Pitts)

Swamp247 writer sees the 23 TE's as: Zanders/blocker & Boardingham/receiver.
(To the iG, that telegraphs the play possibilities for the defense. I'd much rather have guys that can do both...

https://247sports.com/college/flori...billy-napier-gators-roster-213227125/#2201325


The iG's favorite 23 TE is legacy (OL Jason) Jonathan Odom.
2022 - 7 for 69 yds with 2 TD's. Blew his ACL in LV Bowl.
Projected back by the season start at Utah, he's also an excellent blocker.

TE Tony Livingston Fr was a 22 Greyshirt - HS OL at 285
Also a B-Ball Forward, 17.2 Pts, 8.6 Rbs...He'd lose weight 236 to play B-Ball
Shows his athleticism and his self-control to adjust his weight for each sport.
He's an adequate route runner with soft hands coming out of HS.
* Due to the greyshirt, he's getting a slower start than the other newbees, but I like his chances and his potential.

TE Hayden Hansen 6-6 261 rsFr - SEC Fr HR, no game time.
HS Sr - 38 for 369 Yds, 3 TD's - TX 3-6A District 1st Team
(an iG darkhorse with the right size to play TE in the SEC)

Scott Isacks 6-4 249 rsFr- La All-State Metro
He also played 3 seasons of basketball and track. His dad played OL at Louisiana.


The iG's wish list depth chart:

Jon Odom 6-5 249 Jr - projected back by Utah, bowl blown ACL
Tony Livingston 6-5 242 Fr
Arlis Boardingham 6-3 245 rsFr
Dante Zanders 6-5 245 rsSr
Hayden Hansen 6-6 261 rsFr
Andrew Savaiinaea 6-3 279 rsFr (H-back / blocker imo)
Scott Isacks 6-4 249 rsFr - PWO, no game time yet.
Keon Zipperer 6-1 227 Sr -- Out in 23 due to Spring blown ACL
 
As 'Talking Season' winds down. --- JMOHO's as always....

TE Nick Elksnis 6-6 234 came to UF because he saw how Dan used Kyle Pitts.
TE Nick Elksnis (zero rec's) left UF for SCa after he saw how Billy used his TE's
"While he didn't have any stats to back it up, many people (+iG) viewed Elksnis favorably and thought he had the potential to emerge as a viable pass-catching tight end for the Gators." 😏

TE Keon Zipperer, the 22 starter, is out for 2023 with a blown ACL.
(he has just one touchdown over his last two years, he may be back in 24)

TE Zanders, the co-starter with Keon in 22, is not the best TE on the 23 roster.
(he had ZERO TD's in 22)

>>> The double Z's suffered to many drops in 22, they both need to live on the Juggs machine.


TE Arlis Boardingham rsFr -- Zero Rec. in the LV Bowl
But 2023 Spring performance now has him in the 23 2-deep.
HS TE+WR (like Pitts)

Swamp247 writer sees the 23 TE's as: Zanders/blocker & Boardingham/receiver.
(To the iG, that telegraphs the play possibilities for the defense. I'd much rather have guys that can do both...

https://247sports.com/college/flori...billy-napier-gators-roster-213227125/#2201325


The iG's favorite 23 TE is legacy (OL Jason) Jonathan Odom.
2022 - 7 for 69 yds with 2 TD's. Blew his ACL in LV Bowl.
Projected back by the season start at Utah, he's also an excellent blocker.

TE Tony Livingston Fr was a 22 Greyshirt - HS OL at 285
Also a B-Ball Forward, 17.2 Pts, 8.6 Rbs...He'd lose weight 236 to play B-Ball
Shows his athleticism and his self-control to adjust his weight for each sport.
He's an adequate route runner with soft hands coming out of HS.
* Due to the greyshirt, he's getting a slower start than the other newbees, but I like his chances and his potential.

TE Hayden Hansen 6-6 261 rsFr - SEC Fr HR, no game time.
HS Sr - 38 for 369 Yds, 3 TD's - TX 3-6A District 1st Team
(an iG darkhorse with the right size to play TE in the SEC)

Scott Isacks 6-4 249 rsFr- La All-State Metro
He also played 3 seasons of basketball and track. His dad played OL at Louisiana.


The iG's wish list depth chart:

Jon Odom 6-5 249 Jr - projected back by Utah, bowl blown ACL
Tony Livingston 6-5 242 Fr
Arlis Boardingham 6-3 245 rsFr
Dante Zanders 6-5 245 rsSr
Hayden Hansen 6-6 261 rsFr
Andrew Savaiinaea 6-3 279 rsFr (H-back / blocker imo)
Scott Isacks 6-4 249 rsFr - PWO, no game time yet.
Keon Zipperer 6-1 227 Sr -- Out in 23 due to Spring blown ACL

How good did the TEs do before Pitts? I know with Franks we were throwing within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage a lot.
 
How good did the TEs do before Pitts? I know with Franks we were throwing within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage a lot.
I said nothing about that in my post.

If that's what you want to talk about now, wellll, have at it yourself,,, instead of attempting to drag me into more of your 'side-bar' distracting BS....
 
I said nothing about that in my post.

If that's what you want to talk about now, wellll, have at it yourself,,, instead of attempting to drag me into more of your 'side-bar' distracting BS....

I beg to differ as you talked about how Mullen used a TE and how Napier has used his TEs.
 
Under Mullen it was all Pitts when it came to TE yards starting in 2019. The TEs didn't do much at all in 2018.
 
“I think it requires a lot of teamwork,” Napier said of talent evaluation. “I think the ego can get in the way sometimes so we have a lot of eyes on each player. Very objective process as we go through it and ultimately we make decisions as a group I mean we team recruit, we objectively evaluate and we team recruit. I think in today's world you’ve got to minimize errors as much as you can.”
Translation - Don't blame me, we did that as a group. = CYA


'https://247sports.com/college/florida/LongFormArticle/florida-camp-preview-quarterback-213324981/

Graham Mertz recorded a 19-13 record as a starter with the Badgers and finished the 2022 season with 2,136 Yds, 19 TD's and 10 int's, which produced his highest individual passer rating as a starter.. A pocket-passer, Mertz was sacked 23 times in 2022 despite leading an offense that ran the ball nearly 58% of the time.

>>> Napier said Florida’s talent identification process allowed it to determine that Mertz was the right fit for the program. >>> WTF-over???


"I think he has proven his work ethic, just observing him and hearing other players talk about him — the work he’s done with our staff, not only strength and conditioning, but also every part of training, nutrition and film study." - CBN

Is that to say that Miller and Brown have NOT done those same things? iG
To me, that article is saying that the rest of the team, IF THEY PLAY GREAT, has a chance to make Mertz better than he was in 4 years at Wis.... Shouldn't that be the other way around,,, with the QB making everyone around him better???


"Mertz is not nearly as well equipped to pose a threat in the ground game as Richardson was, something that almost surely contributed to the team's overall success in its rushing attack. Opposing teams were forced to account for Richardson in a way they won't have to with Mertz. He has also been quite interception-prone throughout his career."
A point that the iG has been making from the get-go of the Mertz arrival...


Still, he is the perceived first-team quarterback on Florida's roster despite Napier's frequently-reiterated statement that their is an on-going battle for the role.
=====


Jack Miller III - Napier lauded the transfer quarterback for his work ethic, decision-making on the field and vastly improved scheme fluency, which Miller admitted were areas of concern in the spring.

Due to poor coaching decisions, iG --- "Miller was the only quarterback on Florida’s roster who had attempted a pass at the collegiate (tOSU) level by the time its Las Vegas Bowl appearance rolled around (50% 7 of 14) and was appointed the Gators' starter as a result (of more poor decision making iG)."

According to the sports books, Billy Napier and the Gators entered today's matchup with the Beavers as a 10-point underdogs.
Florida went on to lose 30-3 to No. 14 Oregon State. With their win, Mighty LAC-12 OreSt got to celebrate it's 3rd 10 win season all time, and it was their first in 16 years. It was also OreSt's first ever win over an SEC team....

The only bright spot for the Gators was a 40-yard field goal with less than a minute remaining to avoid the shutout and extended the Gators’ streak of scoring in games to 436.
🙄

Miller completed 13-of-22 59% passes for 180 yards, 0 TD's, and gave up 4 sacks.. Many expected Florida to struggle without Anthony Richardson under center, but it was surprising to see this big of a regression.
"Jack Miller III’s audition clearly didn’t go as planned, and now the panic meter for Florida to get a quarterback in the transfer portal is at an all-time high." (Panic choice = Mertz)


Without a dual threat QB, how'd the RB's do in the Bowl loss?
Montrell Johnson 11 for 14 yds.
Trevor Etienne 8 for 14 yds.
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Max Brown - Brown was named the Oklahoma District 3-3A MVP as a senior after passing for 2,750 yards and 41 TD's to just 4 Ints, while also picking up a whopping 1,343 rushing yards and 20 rushing TD's with ZERO LPF's on the year. That season, Brown led his high school team to an impressive 13-1 overall record and finished as the 3A state runner-up. (since then, being left to rot on the bench) 😒

Napier - "I think Max, when you turn the tape on, you can immediately see the baseball background. The off-platform throws. Really a natural thrower (71%). A guy that is projected to be kind of a middle-round draft pick in baseball. He was 6 foot, 1.5 inches, 200 pounds on his visit (now 6-2 212). Dad played receiver in the National Football League. Really a good-looking athlete. We think he has upside. He just started playing quarterback two years ago. And he's a good runner. The guy can make some plays with his feet (7.8 YPC)."

After what I've seen so far with the M&M boyz, the iG will continue to hope that Max wins the starter job at Fall practice.

But whichever one wins it in an EQUAL contest in the Fall will still get my support as a long time Gator fan,,, at least to begin with. But if the starter then sucks, then all bets are off on the coaching evaluation criticism. 🤓
 
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Happy now? Looks like more pointless drivel to me....

Is it? Why didn't Mullen do anything with the TEs in 2018 since you seem to be implying Napier is the reason we didnt get much from the TEs in 2022. I think we need to see what happens the next few years with his TE recruits.
 
“I think it requires a lot of teamwork,” Napier said of talent evaluation. “I think the ego can get in the way sometimes so we have a lot of eyes on each player. Very objective process as we go through it and ultimately we make decisions as a group I mean we team recruit, we objectively evaluate and we team recruit. I think in today's world you’ve got to minimize errors as much as you can.”
Translation - Don't blame me, we did that as a group. = CYA


'https://247sports.com/college/florida/LongFormArticle/florida-camp-preview-quarterback-213324981/

Graham Mertz recorded a 19-13 record as a starter with the Badgers and finished the 2022 season with 2,136 Yds, 19 TD's and 10 int's, which produced his highest individual passer rating as a starter.. A pocket-passer, Mertz was sacked 23 times in 2022 despite leading an offense that ran the ball nearly 58% of the time.

>>> Napier said Florida’s talent identification process allowed it to determine that Mertz was the right fit for the program. >>> WTF-over???


"I think he has proven his work ethic, just observing him and hearing other players talk about him — the work he’s done with our staff, not only strength and conditioning, but also every part of training, nutrition and film study." - CBN

Is that to say that Miller and Brown have NOT done those same things? iG
To me, that article is saying that the rest of the team, IF THEY PLAY GREAT, has a chance to make Gretz better than he was in 4 years at Wis.... Shouldn't that be the other way around,,, with the QB making everyone around him better???


"Mertz is not nearly as well equipped to pose a threat in the ground game as Richardson was, something that almost surely contributed to the team's overall success in its rushing attack. Opposing teams were forced to account for Richardson in a way they won't have to with Mertz. He has also been quite interception-prone throughout his career."
A point that the iG has been making from the get-go of the Mertz arrival...


Still, he is the perceived first-team quarterback on Florida's roster despite Napier's frequently-reiterated statement that their is an on-going battle for the role.
=====


Jack Miller III - Napier lauded the transfer quarterback for his work ethic, decision-making on the field and vastly improved scheme fluency, which Miller admitted were areas of concern in the spring.

Due to poor coaching decisions, iG --- "Miller was the only quarterback on Florida’s roster who had attempted a pass at the collegiate (tOSU) level by the time its Las Vegas Bowl appearance rolled around (50% 7 of 14) and was appointed the Gators' starter as a result (of more poor decision making iG)."

According to the sports books, Billy Napier and the Gators entered today's matchup with the Beavers as a 10-point underdogs.
Florida went on to lose 30-3 to No. 14 Oregon State. With their win, Mighty LAC-12 OreSt got to celebrate it's 3rd 10 win season all time, and it was their first in 16 years. It was also OreSt's first ever win over an SEC team....

The only bright spot for the Gators was a 40-yard field goal with less than a minute remaining to avoid the shutout and extended the Gators’ streak of scoring in games to 436.
🙄

Miller completed 13-of-22 59% passes for 180 yards, 0 TD's, and gave up 4 sacks.. Many expected Florida to struggle without Anthony Richardson under center, but it was surprising to see this big of a regression.
"Jack Miller III’s audition clearly didn’t go as planned, and now the panic meter for Florida to get a quarterback in the transfer portal is at an all-time high." (Panic choice = Mertz)


Without a dual threat QB, how'd the RB's do in the Bowl loss?
Montrell Johnson 11 for 14 yds.
Trevor Etienne 8 for 14 yds.
=====


Max Brown - Brown was named the Oklahoma District 3-3A MVP as a senior after passing for 2,750 yards and 41 TD's to just 4 Ints, while also picking up a whopping 1,343 rushing yards and 20 rushing TD's with ZERO LPF's on the year. That season, Brown led his high school team to an impressive 13-1 overall record and finished as the 3A state runner-up. (since then, being left to rot on the bench) 😒

Napier - "I think Max, when you turn the tape on, you can immediately see the baseball background. The off-platform throws. Really a natural thrower (71%). A guy that is projected to be kind of a middle-round draft pick in baseball. He was 6 foot, 1.5 inches, 200 pounds on his visit (now 6-2 212). Dad played receiver in the National Football League. Really a good-looking athlete. We think he has upside. He just started playing quarterback two years ago. And he's a good runner. The guy can make some plays with his feet (7.8 YPC)."

After what I've seen so far with the M&M boyz, the iG will continue to hope that Max wins the starter job at Fall practice.

But whichever one wins it in an EQUAL contest in the Fall will still get my support as a long time Gator fan,,, at least to begin with. But if the starter then sucks, then all bets are off on the coaching evaluation criticism. 🤓


You can keep hoping but Brown will not be the opening game starter unless there are injuries in front of him. Napier won't change his order that much because a QB got the playbook down. If you are hell bent on wanting Brown to get a chance to start you need us to collapse early.
 
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“I think it requires a lot of teamwork,” Napier said of talent evaluation. “I think the ego can get in the way sometimes so we have a lot of eyes on each player. Very objective process as we go through it and ultimately we make decisions as a group I mean we team recruit, we objectively evaluate and we team recruit. I think in today's world you’ve got to minimize errors as much as you can.”
Translation - Don't blame me, we did that as a group. = CYA


'https://247sports.com/college/florida/LongFormArticle/florida-camp-preview-quarterback-213324981/

Graham Mertz recorded a 19-13 record as a starter with the Badgers and finished the 2022 season with 2,136 Yds, 19 TD's and 10 int's, which produced his highest individual passer rating as a starter.. A pocket-passer, Mertz was sacked 23 times in 2022 despite leading an offense that ran the ball nearly 58% of the time.

>>> Napier said Florida’s talent identification process allowed it to determine that Mertz was the right fit for the program. >>> WTF-over???


"I think he has proven his work ethic, just observing him and hearing other players talk about him — the work he’s done with our staff, not only strength and conditioning, but also every part of training, nutrition and film study." - CBN

Is that to say that Miller and Brown have NOT done those same things? iG
To me, that article is saying that the rest of the team, IF THEY PLAY GREAT, has a chance to make Gretz better than he was in 4 years at Wis.... Shouldn't that be the other way around,,, with the QB making everyone around him better???


"Mertz is not nearly as well equipped to pose a threat in the ground game as Richardson was, something that almost surely contributed to the team's overall success in its rushing attack. Opposing teams were forced to account for Richardson in a way they won't have to with Mertz. He has also been quite interception-prone throughout his career."
A point that the iG has been making from the get-go of the Mertz arrival...


Still, he is the perceived first-team quarterback on Florida's roster despite Napier's frequently-reiterated statement that their is an on-going battle for the role.
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Jack Miller III - Napier lauded the transfer quarterback for his work ethic, decision-making on the field and vastly improved scheme fluency, which Miller admitted were areas of concern in the spring.

Due to poor coaching decisions, iG --- "Miller was the only quarterback on Florida’s roster who had attempted a pass at the collegiate (tOSU) level by the time its Las Vegas Bowl appearance rolled around (50% 7 of 14) and was appointed the Gators' starter as a result (of more poor decision making iG)."

According to the sports books, Billy Napier and the Gators entered today's matchup with the Beavers as a 10-point underdogs.
Florida went on to lose 30-3 to No. 14 Oregon State. With their win, Mighty LAC-12 OreSt got to celebrate it's 3rd 10 win season all time, and it was their first in 16 years. It was also OreSt's first ever win over an SEC team....

The only bright spot for the Gators was a 40-yard field goal with less than a minute remaining to avoid the shutout and extended the Gators’ streak of scoring in games to 436.
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Miller completed 13-of-22 59% passes for 180 yards, 0 TD's, and gave up 4 sacks.. Many expected Florida to struggle without Anthony Richardson under center, but it was surprising to see this big of a regression.
"Jack Miller III’s audition clearly didn’t go as planned, and now the panic meter for Florida to get a quarterback in the transfer portal is at an all-time high." (Panic choice = Mertz)


Without a dual threat QB, how'd the RB's do in the Bowl loss?
Montrell Johnson 11 for 14 yds.
Trevor Etienne 8 for 14 yds.
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Max Brown - Brown was named the Oklahoma District 3-3A MVP as a senior after passing for 2,750 yards and 41 TD's to just 4 Ints, while also picking up a whopping 1,343 rushing yards and 20 rushing TD's with ZERO LPF's on the year. That season, Brown led his high school team to an impressive 13-1 overall record and finished as the 3A state runner-up. (since then, being left to rot on the bench) 😒

Napier - "I think Max, when you turn the tape on, you can immediately see the baseball background. The off-platform throws. Really a natural thrower (71%). A guy that is projected to be kind of a middle-round draft pick in baseball. He was 6 foot, 1.5 inches, 200 pounds on his visit (now 6-2 212). Dad played receiver in the National Football League. Really a good-looking athlete. We think he has upside. He just started playing quarterback two years ago. And he's a good runner. The guy can make some plays with his feet (7.8 YPC)."

After what I've seen so far with the M&M boyz, the iG will continue to hope that Max wins the starter job at Fall practice.

But whichever one wins it in an EQUAL contest in the Fall will still get my support as a long time Gator fan,,, at least to begin with. But if the starter then sucks, then all bets are off on the coaching evaluation criticism. 🤓
We get it, Mertz and Miller blow chunks while Brown is the next Tom Brady with Lamar Jackson running ability.
 
Brown has ZERO chance to play in 2023,,, because both starter Mertz and backup Miller will overnight become what they've never been before now....

Brown has Zero chance in 2024,,, because true Fr Lagway will be an instant star QB at UF with a 4th Heisman on the way.

Brown should leave the football team now and either concentrate on baseball with O'Sul, or else xfer out if he ever wants to play QB in college.... Happy now? 🙄

See, I can play your stupid games too, I just don't care to on most daze....
 
Brown has ZERO chance to play in 2023,,, because both starter Mertz and backup Miller will overnight become what they've never been before now....

Brown has Zero chance in 2024,,, because true Fr Lagway will be an instant star QB at UF with a 4th Heisman on the way.

Brown should leave the football team now and either concentrate on baseball with O'Sul, or else xfer out if he ever wants to play QB in college.... Happy now? 🙄

See, I can play your stupid games too, I just don't care to on most daze....
Ahh, my stupid game...awesome.
 
Brown has ZERO chance to play in 2023,,, because both starter Mertz and backup Miller will overnight become what they've never been before now....

Brown has Zero chance in 2024,,, because true Fr Lagway will be an instant star QB at UF with a 4th Heisman on the way.

Brown should leave the football team now and either concentrate on baseball with O'Sul, or else xfer out if he ever wants to play QB in college.... Happy now? 🙄

See, I can play your stupid games too, I just don't care to on most daze....

Who's stupid game?

This is the game you play in every post.

What a weirdo.
 
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Fall Practice has begun....

I, unlike everyone else, couldn't care less about who starts at QB, they are all equally top quality...
Moving on.... 🙄

Not only do the Gators have former OLB Mike Peterson working with the LB'ers, they now also have former Gator MLB Brandon Spikes helping coach them. (from a Swamp247 article)

A LEGEND RETURNS

Brandon Spikes
has long been interested in returning to Florida to help the team in some capacity.
The former Gator linebacker has spent considerable time around the program in recent months, attending both team and recruiting events while expressing to Florida's coaching staff that he felt he could be of assistance in some way.

They agreed. -- Spikes will primarily work with Florida's linebackers in 2023. In a similar fashion to what former Gator DT Sharrif Floyd did in 2022, (Former Florida DT, turned first-round pick, turned Gators student assistant in 2022. Sharrif Floyd was hired by the Dallas Cowboys as the team's assistant DL coach for 2023.) Spikes will serve as a student assistant for the program while he finishes his degree at the university. (good for him and for the Gators in the iG oho)

With the quality of the Gator roster LB's, and with both Peterson & Spikes coaching them up, in the iG's oho, the Gator's 2nd level defense has a real chance to be at or near the top in the SEC for 2023.
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