Wait, why would the libs be blocking RFK Jr @GatorTheo - I thought he was taking all of Trump's moderate voters and handing the election to the Dems?
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You understand why the dems wouldn’t want Kennedy to run 3rd party, right?
Do you consider ‘rinos’ to be solid behind Trump?
Noting that Joe Biden is the President, I’d say Trump does need the moderate vote.
Then why do the dems care if RFK Jr runs or not? Which is it?
He has his cake but he's not going to eat it. Those type of calories go straight to the hips!
Because they correctly realize a significant number of dems realize Biden’s a veg.
This should not be hard.
But I thought you said a significant number of voters realize Trump is an asshole?
Which is it?
You're just horsing around, right? You're not actually trying to make any kind of coherent point, I hope.
What are you trying to say? Just write 2-3 clear sentences so I can understand where you're trying to go.
So you're saying your previous points make little sense to you when I read them back to you? LOL
You have said in the past that Trump was an asshole and that it hurts him with voters, specifically moderates.
You have also implied that Biden won fair and square in 2020. And that Trump being an asshole is a big reason why he lost.....legitimately as you claim.
Are you still standing by both those previous claims?
True. Trump acting like an asshole drove away some traditional republican voters.
I'm not saying Biden won fair and square. I'm saying it's very odd to me that no one other than hardcore Trumpers have turned up any meaningful 'proof'. There are plenty of connected conservatives in all of the questionable states yet no one chases any of the 'many' leads.
Yes, Trump being an asshole is a major reason he lost.
Then your comments now about the dems and RFK Jr, along with your past comments about moderates, make no sense.
What don't you understand? If the dems are going with Biden, surely you understand they don't want a third party candidate drawing moderate dem votes away.
Yeah but Trump's an asshole, remember? And him being an asshole is a major reason why he lost so bigly.
Remember?
And Trump desperately needs moderate votes, remember? And RFK Jr will suck all those away from Trump the asshole, remember?
So then why would the dems want RFK Jr out of the race if he's going to hurt Trump by entering?
They probably think he's going to draw more from the dems because, you know, he's actually a dem.
The fact that he is going to take votes from Biden doesn't preclude him from taking votes from Trump too.
The dem machine obviously wants the dem nominee to win.
But I thought Biden won* easily? And Trump being an asshole is a major reason why?
Which is it?
It doesn't have to be either/or. Not sure why you would think that.
Biden won AND part of the reason was Trump being an asshole. You may be the only person who doesn't understand.
Part of the reason? Earlier you said it was a MAJOR reason?
Like earlier you said Biden won* easily. And Trump being an asshole was a MAJOR reason why.
Sounds like you are talking out your ass. Or maybe your voice carries differently hiding under a bed worried about Red Dawn happening in your front yard.
Of course it was a major reason. How do you not realize that? You think moderates thought Trump was a good guy?
I guess I'm not as smart as you are.
So you claim RFK jr is gonna hurt Trump, who you also claim Biden whacked easily in 2020, so that means......the dems don't want RFK Jr to run cause.....it will hurt Biden?????
Is that what you are saying?
I'm tired (just for today) of holding your hand and walking you thru logic you should easily understand on your own.
I'll leave you with this to think about: Hardcore dems are gonna vote dem. Hardcore pubs are gonna vote pub. It's the moderates of both parties and independents who are mostly at play. A third party candidate who is not as far left as the dems and not as far right as the pubs is going to attract FROM BOTH SIDES.....particularly if both sides have high negatives.
As simply as I can put it....RFK is going to take votes from both sides.
If your earlier claims that Biden won* bigly and moderates are scared to death of asshole Trump are true, then dems should welcome RFK Jr entering the race with open arms. And Trump should already be attacking him.
Instead, none of that is happening. dems are panicking and what little Trump has said about RFK Jr has mostly been complementary.
One more time: Moderates and independents favor centrist candidates. That's Trump more than it is Biden, so they will favor Trump.
Not Biden.
Dems don't want RFK Jr to run, cause he hurts Biden and doesn't bother Trump.
Finally, this is not a centrist election. Everyone has a hard opinion on who they like or dislike, and why.
Moderates have never had less of a say in the outcome of an election than they will in 2024.
He's got it made? How many times have I said here that he won't be allowed to be on ballots in the 2024 election? Even if it means the election has to be suspended?
How is that 'got it made'?
The answer that you are TRYING to explain is not quite that simple. It will not be an EVEN split. Any "moderate" that voted for Brandon (that has a functioning brain cell) knows they made a poor choice. EVERY SINGLE thing Brandon touched...he made worse!(And takers want to debate this...bring it on) EVERYTHING is worse. So it will NOT be an even split...especially since RFK jr has some VERY liberal stances
Let me guess......it's a RINO poll. 😂
"Former President Donald Trump and President Biden are running neck-and-neck in a new 2024 presidential election poll, but the data suggests an independent bid by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. could upend the race in Biden's favor.
According to a Marist poll released Tuesday, 49% of registered voters said they would support Biden, 46% Trump and 5% remained undecided — all without Kennedy in the race.
Those numbers shifted dramatically for Trump and Biden with Kennedy running as an independent candidate, but appeared to hurt Trump's chances for reclaiming the White House more than Biden's odds of winning a second term.
The poll showed Kennedy winning 16% support among voters, Trump 37% and Biden 44%. Just 3% were undecided.
The biggest shift with a Kennedy candidacy came from independent voters, showing a massive drop in support for Trump (49% to 34%) and Biden (43% to 33%), according to the poll. Kennedy received support from 29% of independents.
Republican support for Trump also dropped significantly from 91% to 81%, with Kennedy receiving support from 11% of GOP voters."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...2024-polls-independent-bids-could-change-race
"Former President Donald Trump and President Biden are running neck-and-neck in a new 2024 presidential election poll, but the data suggests an independent bid by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. could upend the race in Biden's favor.
According to a Marist poll released Tuesday, 49% of registered voters said they would support Biden, 46% Trump and 5% remained undecided — all without Kennedy in the race.
Those numbers shifted dramatically for Trump and Biden with Kennedy running as an independent candidate, but appeared to hurt Trump's chances for reclaiming the White House more than Biden's odds of winning a second term.
The poll showed Kennedy winning 16% support among voters, Trump 37% and Biden 44%. Just 3% were undecided.
The biggest shift with a Kennedy candidacy came from independent voters, showing a massive drop in support for Trump (49% to 34%) and Biden (43% to 33%), according to the poll. Kennedy received support from 29% of independents.
Republican support for Trump also dropped significantly from 91% to 81%, with Kennedy receiving support from 11% of GOP voters."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...2024-polls-independent-bids-could-change-race
give it time...he'll out himself
RFK Jr. comes out in favor of reparations, carving out lane to Biden’s left
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations to the black community, making him the most prominent 2024 candidate to favor the controversial policy meant to…
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I am disappointed. She has been one of the ones leading the charge to prove fraud. Seems like she just gave up and took the easy road.
She got 6 years probation and a $6k fine, and had to write a letter.
If she had done something significant do you think they'd let her off?
I think she made the smart decision.
She probably doesn't trust the legal system with Fat Fani in charge (do you?), and took a chance to walk away with misdemeanors and a slap on the wrist.
Say whatever you want about her, she's not dumb.
