Minor miracle scenario to win the SEC East...

[Gator Fever]

Its not quite as bad as the talking heads on ESPN have said - claiming KY needs to lose 3 SEC games even if Georgia lost 2 games.

Looking a little realistically at it Auburn is the only chance Georgia loses a game besides our game so that is basically 100% required.

If KY slumps they could end up with 3 SEC losses and if they did only lose 2 SEC games both could be East losses eliminating them in a 3 way tie.

We would have the tiebreaker over Georgia head to head and even if one of KYs 2 losses was from the West it would kick down to other crazy tiebreakers which all seem to point to us getting the spot.

If Georgia is upset @ Auburn it looks like we will probably control our own destiny unless you really think KY is going to beat LSU, win at Miss State and beat Tennessee.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Wait, if KY loses to both UGA and UT for example, wouldn't that put their division record at 2 losses?

We win out we would have 1 east loss 1 west loss

UGA would have 1 east loss vs UF and 1 west loss vs AU.

 

[Gator Fever]

Wait, if KY loses to both UGA and UT for example, wouldn't that put their division record at 2 losses?

We win out we would have 1 east loss 1 west loss

UGA would have 1 east loss vs UF and 1 west loss vs AU.

Yep we win in that scenario and unless I am reading something wrong we would win in almost any three way 2 loss scenario with GA losing to Auburn. I think the only remote way we could possibly get eliminated is if KY beat LSU also (while losing @ Miss State) but Arkansas beat out LSU in the West. I think anything else and we would get the bid.

 

[Dannygator1989]

I don't think the division you got beat by plays a factor in it.

 

[TennesseeGator]

I don't think the division you got beat by plays a factor in it.

I haven't looked lately but couple years ago the division record played a factor in the tie breaker.

 

[Countygator1]

Georgia. We held the cats to 211 on their home field...dawg defense between the hedges cats may not break 125 yards.

 

[Gator Fever]

I don't think the division you got beat by plays a factor in it.

Its the next tiebreaker I think after the head to head games.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Its the next tiebreaker I think after the head to head games.

Then way I read it was that it involved your western opponents conference win-loss records.

 

[ocalaman]

None of this matters. We ain't gonna win the East and Georgia ain't gonna lose during the regular season. If they do happen to slip up, it will be just once, IMO, but I don't see it happening.

 

[GordonGecko]

We are not winning the East.

 

[Gator Fever]

Then way I read it was that it involved your western opponents conference win-loss records.

I think that one is farther down. The wording of the tiebreakers is kind of confusing also.

This is how I think it works when you get these 3 team ties where everyone is 1-1 against the other 2 teams.

1. Better East record (if someone is eliminated by this it then reverts to head to head among the remaining 2 teams)
2. Best East win (this is useless when the only east losses are among the tied teams)
3. Record against common non-division opponents (I think this one could come into play if KY loses to LSU eliminating them and making it the head to head between us and Georgia.)
4. Combined winning % of your western opponents (Bama should help give us this one)
5. A drawing

I am thinking now if KY did beat LSU but lost to Miss State that we might still be the East team in that scenario. Dont really see a best West win tiebreaker.

 

[EvilWayz]

I am so sick of having to depend on other people to get us to the SECCG. For once, before I die, I'd like an undefeated season.

 

[Gator Fever]

I am so sick of having to depend on other people to get us to the SECCG. For once, before I die, I'd like an undefeated season.

Georgia really caught a break this season with us catching Bama because even if we get our act together (barring an Auburn upset) the head to head won't keep them out of the SECCG with a playoff spot with a win.

Heard a few people saying we should be content with 9-3 and 10-2 seasons but with GA getting the recruits they are getting that wont get you a spot in the SECCG most years. You have to be 10-2 or even better with the head to head win to have a chance now. Georgia went 11-1 three of the last 4 years pre-SECCG and looks like they might do it again this season. We do catch LSU every season but 10-2 in the East isn't nearly as difficult as it is in the West most seasons.

 

[Milkbone_Dawg]

We used to come up with these far fetched scenarios during the Richt years.

 

[Dawgs_74]

It's definitely not an ideal situation. Alot of things would have go perfectly for you folks. I think we just need to adopt the concacaf or fifa tables for group standings.

 

[GwinnettDawg]

I don't think the division you got beat by plays a factor in it.

Correct. An Sec loss is a loss, they look at head to head first

 

[Gator Fever]

Correct. An Sec loss is a loss, they look at head to head first

Pretty sure it does. Its the first thing in reality with these 3 way ties and 1-1 against each other situations. If we all ended up 6-2 and KY lost to GA and Tenn they would be eliminated first for having 2 SEC East losses and FL in that crazy Auburn wins etc. scenario would get it for the head to head win over GA.

 

[GwinnettDawg]

Pretty sure it does. Its the first thing in reality with these 3 way ties and 1-1 against each other situations. If we all ended up 6-2 and KY lost to GA and Tenn they would be eliminated first for having 2 SEC East losses and FL in that crazy Auburn wins etc. scenario would get it for the head to head win over GA.

Ok then.

2. Three-Team Tie (or more): If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):

A. Combined head to head record among the tied teams;

B. Record of the tied teams within the division;

C. Head to head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);

D. Overall Conference record against non divisional teams;

E. Combined record against all common non divisional teams;

F. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and

G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied, and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.);

 

[Dannygator1989]

the amount of times that we've had a season derail us out of Atlanta because our only losses were to west teams is what made me think it doesn't mean anything.

 

[LizardGrad89]

I don't think the division you got beat by plays a factor in it.

Nevermind, Gdawg explained it. No need to restate.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Ok then.

2. Three-Team Tie (or more): If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):

A. Combined head to head record among the tied teams;

B. Record of the tied teams within the division;

C. Head to head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);

D. Overall Conference record against non divisional teams;

E. Combined record against all common non divisional teams;

F. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and

G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied, and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.);

Ok, so in this scenario, you have to lose to Auburn, we have to beat LSU and you, and UT has to beat Kentucky. I think I'll just go buy a lottery ticket instead, the odds are better.

 

[Gator Fever]

No chance now. Maybe we can beat the leghumpers to make the SECCG a possibility to kick them out of the playoff.

 

[TennesseeGator]

I am so sick of having to depend on other people to get us to the SECCG. For once, before I die, I'd like an undefeated season.

Indeed. That 08 Ole Miss game still bugs me.

 

[Nicktheslick]

Indeed. That 08 Ole Miss game still bugs me.

Me too but without that game we wouldn’t have “the speech “.