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Military chopper crashes into airliner....terrorism or crazy accident?



The father of one of the airline pilots killed was a military helicopter pilot for years and flew in the same area. He seems to think the night vision equipment may have led to this like a lot of people think.
 
I didn't grow up here. Didn't move here until 1984. The southside of Baymeadows Road was still cow pasture then though. o_O It was so long ago, Seinfeld was doing the comedy clubs on that road. :D
Baymeadows didn’t exist when I was growing up at all and St. John’s Bluff was a dirt road.
 
It's easy to second guess things but I still don't understand why you would let a pilot wear that night vision stuff (if they did) at a busy airport with many flights coming in. I am very curious if this had been allowed for years or if their commander just made a crazy decision here allowing that.
 
On average there are 6 million traffic accidents just on the ground with 90% of those crashes being human error. Also those crashes yearly take the lives of 38,000 Americans. With population growth and people flying more I’m amazed it’s been more than 15 years since the Buffalo crash that killed 49. Overall it’s still the safest way to travel and hopefully the FAA can minimize any close calls in the future.
 
On average there are 6 million traffic accidents just on the ground with 90% of those crashes being human error. Also those crashes yearly take the lives of 38,000 Americans. With population growth and people flying more I’m amazed it’s been more than 15 years since the Buffalo crash that killed 49. Overall it’s still the safest way to travel and hopefully the FAA can minimize any close calls in the future.
That's because every time there is an air accident, they study the hell out of it and make necessary changes.
 
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My Ex-Wife flew without a license
for years. I’m surprised the Military didn’t shoot her out of the sky💥
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I didn’t think I was ever gonna get rid of her and then that nice little lady from Kansas threw a bucket of water on her.
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I love when you post. Some funny chit! We all need a good laugh every now and then!
 
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This is clearly a tragedy. Whether it was DEI or suicide....

This is the third avoidable issue this month where it looks like DEI played a MAJOR part in incompetence:

1) New Orleans taking the car barriers down on New Year's Eve
2) LA Fire Department lack of readiness
3) Reagan National ATC 30% undermanned


That's > 50 American's dead in January 2025 due to lack of competence.

I'm not sure the ATC was at fault - he was overwhelmed with inbound activity due to staffing shortages....

It' a friggin' disgrace what has happened to our government!
 
This is clearly a tragedy. Whether it was DEI or suicide....

This is the third avoidable issue this month where it looks like DEI played a MAJOR part in incompetence:

1) New Orleans taking the car barriers down on New Year's Eve
2) LA Fire Department lack of readiness
3) Reagan National ATC 30% undermanned


That's > 50 American's dead in January 2025 due to lack of competence.

I'm not sure the ATC was at fault - he was overwhelmed with inbound activity due to staffing shortages....

It' a friggin' disgrace what has happened to our government!

Yep its out of control. I am curious if there was anything going on with this pilot or not. Sounds like that name hasn't got out yet for some reason. I think the first internet rumors are wrong though on the identity. Most likely a tragic mistake by the pilot but I do wonder if there is a chance someone did something crazy here.
 
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Looking at this video it really makes you think this could be a crazy act even with the night vision gear.
 
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They are trying to figure out if the plane he was talking about was the plane he ran in to. I would say no. However how was the ATC not yelling at him about inevitable collision? I think there were more than one issue for this to have happened. Like a "unperfect storm" of events
There was also a plane taking off at that same time, so its possible the Helo pilot was talking about that plane and not the one he hit.
 
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There was also a plane taking off at that same time, so its possible the Helo pilot was talking about that plane and not the one he hit.
From what I gather so far, I think this to be most likely cause. I think a mistake controller makes is not giving a coordinate as to where the plane controller is talking about is. 12 o'clock, 9 o'clock, where? Could have made a difference.
 
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This is clearly a tragedy. Whether it was DEI or suicide....

This is the third avoidable issue this month where it looks like DEI played a MAJOR part in incompetence:

1) New Orleans taking the car barriers down on New Year's Eve
2) LA Fire Department lack of readiness
3) Reagan National ATC 30% undermanned


That's > 50 American's dead in January 2025 due to lack of competence.

I'm not sure the ATC was at fault - he was overwhelmed with inbound activity due to staffing shortages....

It' a friggin' disgrace what has happened to our government!
We don't know the details of what happened and Trump is blaming DEI already. The guy NEVER passes up a chance to Divide and blame.
Any decent human being would have at least waited for a full understanding of what happened here.
 
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On average there are 6 million traffic accidents just on the ground with 90% of those crashes being human error. Also those crashes yearly take the lives of 38,000 Americans. With population growth and people flying more I’m amazed it’s been more than 15 years since the Buffalo crash that killed 49. Overall it’s still the safest way to travel and hopefully the FAA can minimize any close calls in the future.
Same.

Strange to me that folks are talking about "seeing the plane" as part of the process here. I will admit to knowing nothing about this, but with all the lights in the area is seems like depending at all on sight is crazy. Or perhaps that is just the "last line of defense" after all other measures have failed?
 
We don't know the details of what happened and Trump is blaming DEI already. The guy NEVER passes up a chance to Divide and blame.
Any decent human being would have at least waited for a full understanding of what happened here.
And you never fail to pass up an opportunity to trash Trump so you're just as guilty of your criticism of Trump. And your statement that "Any decent human being would have at least waited for a full understanding of what happened here" is hilarious. Do you mean like Biden immediately going before the cameras to tell the world that those border agents will "pay" for "whipping" those Haitians coming across, an absolute flat out lie that screwed those agents for which they never even got an apology. So save your sanctimony.
 
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