McElwain "intrigued" by going to Oregon

[instaGATOR]

What he's done so far has earned him 2 more years imo, if nothing really negative happens in year 3.

However, he's already being paid enough for the results he's gotten so far, so no raise or extension until after year 4.

And I hope that he doesn't leave for Oregon, but stays at UF for at least the next 2 years.

But IF the powers that be (UAA & Pres) want him gone, then now's an opportune time if he does choose to GTFOD for the Oregon job.

 

[tnole903]

Dabo to the SEC

Beyond delusion if you think that is even a 1 in 100,000,000 chance. Dabo is a king there. He is paid more than Mac. Clemson is a football school. His toughest game every year is us with little else to worry about. As long as he is maintaining recruiting he has a pathway to the playoffs every year. He has a lifetime gig there. He has been taking what he wants from north central Florida. I can't think of a single advantage for him to move to Gainesville and climb in to the pressure cooker.

 

[oozie7]

I don't think it has anything to do with fans. If you want to be cynical, it could be that he doesn't feel strong about the roster next year at which point his seat becomes warm, so you get out while the getting is good. I mean think about it...what coach would leave UF for damn Oregon? I'm not buying anything about him being from the Northwest, if that's the case he could have held out at Colorado St. and gotten a top job out that way.

Let's look at the roster. We lose as much as 9 defensive starters so there will be a drop-off, the question is how much. You look at our 07' defense and it was full of NFL talent but they were still pretty bad following a year in which we lost so many starters. Now some of the younger guys have looked good so I think the outlook isn't that bad but we will lack depth in a lot of areas. Most of the freshmen will have to contribute. Now on offense...where do we start? Apparently we'e chasing that ex-Baylor QB Stidham really, really hard. Why would the staff do that unless they didn't feel good about Trask or Franks? You're talking about potentially having your QB for the next 4 years vs. taking a guy who has at most 2 more years. Anybody would favor the guy who could play for the next 4 years assuming he was good logically speaking. O-line still looks shaky too and if Nuss is back I'm not seeing a lot of improvement.

 

[oozie7]

McElwain is from Montana, has ties to Eastern Washington and anyone who has spent any time in that part of the country knows the allure of living out there, let alone the idea of going home. It must astound him the way some Gator fans have second-guessed the decision to hire him and then have used every opportunity to criticize him for the last 2 years. I like the guy and think that, given time, he will be even more successful than he's been his 1st 2 years. Many Gator fans want immediate SEC and continuing Top 10 or even Top 5 finishes and want to run the guy out of town if he doesn't get there in 2 years. Hell, he's won 2 SEC East titles and while we all want more, give the guy a break. Injuries have devastated this team and yet we're still going to Atlanta. And besides that, who would we get to replace him that would get the instant Top 10 team some expect? I remember that when McElwain was hired, some thought Rich Rod was the guy. How do you like him now? We all want a Saban or an Urban Meyer, but who and where is that guy? It better be a sure thing if we're going to push out a guy after 2 years after running off another one after 4. I say give McElwain a break, celebrate the 2 SEC titles he's won and get behind the program instead of tearing it down.

Why do you continue with this strawman? Nobody has had any demands of top 10 or top 5 finishes of this program anywhere during the last two years. Even his finish last year was largely excused away with the Grier screwup and the blame for the offense was shifted almost entirely to Treon. Nobody was looking at Nuss or him in any negative light. The guy lost by 30 in a bowl game and still the outlook of the program was positive into year 2, there was zero heat or negativity going his way.

Even now with all the issues the only heat he has taken is regarding his offense. And it's straight up bullshit to try and call UF fans out for expecting an offense better than 120th in the country in year two by a guy who was brought here to fix the offense. Muschamp's offenses were not as bad. If fans can't have displeasure over that without being labeled spoiled and all that other non-sense then there isn't a fanbase anywhere that isn't 'spoiled.' And even now the backing up the fanbase is still largely behind him. I don't see him taking any type of real heat anywhere. I see the shift the blame to the fans narrative has already begun.

 

[Michi-Gator]

What he's done so far has earned him 2 more years imo, if nothing really negative happens in year 3.

However, he's already being paid enough for the results he's gotten so far, so no raise or extension until after year 4.

And I hope that he doesn't leave for Oregon, but stays at UF for at least the next 2 years.

But IF the powers that be (UAA & Pres) want him gone, then now's an opportune time if he does choose to GTFOD for the Oregon job.

Well stated Insta. While we don't agree on Mac's potential, I will say this is a well stated post

 

[oozie7]

I don't know of any UF fans that have asked for the man to be fired. I don't even recall him taking heat about anything except his offense. And even there every single board I've been on or fans I've talked to all point that at Nuss. If that's what passes for 'unappreciative' these days I'm not sure where he's going to coach where the fans are 'appreciative.'

 

[SeaPA]

Apparently we'e chasing that ex-Baylor QB Stidham really, really hard. Why would the staff do that unless they didn't feel good about Trask or Franks? You're talking about potentially having your QB for the next 4 years vs. taking a guy who has at most 2 more years. Anybody would favor the guy who could play for the next 4 years assuming he was good logically speaking. O-line still looks shaky too and if Nuss is back I'm not seeing a lot of improvement.

Realistically, if one of them (Trask/Franks) wins the starting job and plays well, he'll be gone after three years - at the most. If one comes in and lights it up, he'll be gone after two years as the starter.

 

[Michi-Gator]

I don't know of any UF fans that have asked for the man to be fired. I don't even recall him taking heat about anything except his offense. And even there every single board I've been on or fans I've talked to all point that at Nuss. If that's what passes for 'unappreciative' these days I'm not sure where he's going to coach where the fans are 'appreciative.'

To me there is a missing piece here. This would be an awful way to try and get a raise which he is unlikely to get anway, and I am sorry but fan expectations don't chase a guy like this off, especially to a place where his current offense won't be any more accepted. Still wonder if there isn't internal issues

 

[Gator Fever]

I don't know of any UF fans that have asked for the man to be fired. I don't even recall him taking heat about anything except his offense. And even there every single board I've been on or fans I've talked to all point that at Nuss. If that's what passes for 'unappreciative' these days I'm not sure where he's going to coach where the fans are 'appreciative.'

Yep even the really pissed people are mostly saying he has to get a 3rd year to see if things change much and to fire Nuss from OC duties after this season.

 

[hardliner]

I think if Mac is offered the Oregon job, he goes. He doesn't look happy and I always thought the aww shucks ain't it cool stuff looked forced.

Competing against Washington and Oregon State for recruits is a little better than going against Jimbo, Saban, Richt, Meyer etc.

 

[Nolebra Kai]

Sounds like a Sexton ploy for more money and/or extension.

 

[Gator Fever]

I think if Mac is offered the Oregon job, he goes. He doesn't look happy and I always thought the aww shucks ain't it cool stuff looked forced.

Competing against Washington and Oregon State for recruits is a little better than going against Jimbo, Saban, Richt, Meyer etc.

Of course he would go but I think hell might freeze over first before he was offered that job.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Sounds like a Sexton ploy for more money and/or extension.

I don't see Mac getting an extension that doesn't leave UF a relatively cheap out. First its not Foley and second, we paid a fortune to get him out at CSU

 

[sadgator]

McElwain is from Montana, has ties to Eastern Washington and anyone who has spent any time in that part of the country knows the allure of living out there, let alone the idea of going home. It must astound him the way some Gator fans have second-guessed the decision to hire him and then have used every opportunity to criticize him for the last 2 years. I like the guy and think that, given time, he will be even more successful than he's been his 1st 2 years. Many Gator fans want immediate SEC and continuing Top 10 or even Top 5 finishes and want to run the guy out of town if he doesn't get there in 2 years. Hell, he's won 2 SEC East titles and while we all want more, give the guy a break. Injuries have devastated this team and yet we're still going to Atlanta. And besides that, who would we get to replace him that would get the instant Top 10 team some expect? I remember that when McElwain was hired, some thought Rich Rod was the guy. How do you like him now? We all want a Saban or an Urban Meyer, but who and where is that guy? It better be a sure thing if we're going to push out a guy after 2 years after running off another one after 4. I say give McElwain a break, celebrate the 2 SEC titles he's won and get behind the program instead of tearing it down.

This is such a well-written and positive post that sadgator will like it even though sadgator has no faith and constitution left to put your suggestions into practice. sadgator loves and supports the gators and will root like hell for them to win every game they play, but he no longer will believe in Mac's ability to develop and produce a competent offense until he sees it. We are in a "show me" mode now.

 

[instaGATOR]

Stidham is a JuCo rsSo and he will have 3 more years to play. That said, I'd rather go with the 3 Fr next year. Trask, Franks, or Allen should be able to get it done, or why the heck are they on the projected roster?
Sorry, but I really don't want yet another xfer QB to come in and retard the progress of the 3 freshmen.

I favor Trask because of several items. A 4.0 student and a 4.0 in character. A very accurate and strong armed QB that doesn't throw interceptions, (16 TD's to ZERO Ints) with a 72% completion rate. And at 6-4 238 with a 4.6/40, he could make up some for the young OL. However, if Franks or Allen can beat him out in a 'FAIR' competition on the field, then I'm just fine with either of them being the starting QB for 2017.

As to the defense, I'm betting that they will be at least a Top 10 again next year. Many were doom & gloom about a perceived drop-off when chump left. His last year, UF was #8. Mc-Collins kept it at a #8 in year one. Then it was more doom & gloom about this year, but they actually improved, even with the rash of injuries.
They are now the #6 defense. They have shown imo, that they know what they are doing, and they have also shown that their judgment of recruits is better than the ranking services on who can come in to UF, stay eligible, and play up to the standard.

This is all just a bunch of 'noise in the system' bs as far as I'm concerned.

 

[PacoGator19]

A little birdie told sadgator that games at Autzen are very special, and the Oregon players play their tails off.

yet they went 4-8

 

[46885]

If Mac leaves this may be the best you can get as his replacement. In the short term anyway.

IM so happy to be stuck with you

 

[PacoGator19]

I don't think McElwain is the least bit interested in the Oregon job and I don't think Oregon is in the least bit interested in Mac, Just my opinion, just because Dan Wolken writes article full of speculation?

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Outside of Florida, I don't think people view UF as struggling as much as UF fans do.

UF went from 7 wins to 10 wins last year. 9 wins is not out of the question this year. To an 4-8 team that just lost to Oregon State, McElwain might look more appealing than you think.

 

[goldmom]

In all honesty there is no way freaking Oregon is a better job than UF, unless you are a guy who woke up and realized you were in waaay over your head. Coaches who succeed at an SEC school gotta fit into big boy pants.
He might be that guy.

 

[Gator Fever]

Outside of Florida, I don't think people view UF as struggling as much as UF fans do.

UF went from 7 wins to 10 wins last year. 9 wins is not out of the question this year. To an 4-8 team that just lost to Oregon State, McElwain might look more appealing than you think.

Disagree when it comes to perception under Mac right now. Hell the kids get to see the ESPN crew laugh nightly about our offense despite the SECCG. Tenn and them arent even getting ripped like us now because they score points. Its like that commercial says all defense is boring and doesnt sell. A few games like that is ok but not a whole SEC schedule of it shown to all these kids.

 

[kb851]

McElwain is from Montana, has ties to Eastern Washington and anyone who has spent any time in that part of the country knows the allure of living out there, let alone the idea of going home. It must astound him the way some Gator fans have second-guessed the decision to hire him and then have used every opportunity to criticize him for the last 2 years. I like the guy and think that, given time, he will be even more successful than he's been his 1st 2 years. Many Gator fans want immediate SEC and continuing Top 10 or even Top 5 finishes and want to run the guy out of town if he doesn't get there in 2 years. Hell, he's won 2 SEC East titles and while we all want more, give the guy a break. Injuries have devastated this team and yet we're still going to Atlanta. And besides that, who would we get to replace him that would get the instant Top 10 team some expect? I remember that when McElwain was hired, some thought Rich Rod was the guy. How do you like him now? We all want a Saban or an Urban Meyer, but who and where is that guy? It better be a sure thing if we're going to push out a guy after 2 years after running off another one after 4. I say give McElwain a break, celebrate the 2 SEC titles he's won and get behind the program instead of tearing it down.

Well put.
And I will agree...especially about over reactions, with one big caveat.

In our case, the offensive struggles are worth concern. Yes, the drug suspension started this offensive tailspin, but it has been a bit too much of a struggle,and does need to be addressed, pleasant start notwithstanding.

 

[Michi-Gator]

In all honesty there is no way freaking Oregon is a better job than UF, unless you are a guy who woke up and realized you were in waaay over your head. Coaches who succeed at an SEC school gotta fit into big boy pants.
He might be that guy.

First off, I will say no one knows if this is true.

But this is not necessarily a matter of if Oregon is a better job. Mac is a smart guy, he knows real soon winning the East will not be enough. He knows he needs to beat F$U soon. Not that he would get fired foe only winning the East again, but does he want to be SEC runner ip three straight years and end up on a hot seat? He knows what feasible next year. Does he want to fire Nuss?

And you "can't" fire a coach after two years, butbyou can talk about releasing him from his contract.

No idea if there is an ounce of truth, but oddly neither UAA or Mac has addressed the rumor. We don't know what going on behind the scenes. And Mac has seemed very uncomfortable about people targeting our lack of offense and not really acknowlwdging the SECe title

 

[txngtr]

Stidham is a JuCo rsSo and he will have 3 more years to play.That said, I'd rather gowith the 3 Fr nextyear.

No way you would think this if you watched him last year at Baylor. This kid is Grier ++++. Would love to have him here as he played in a fast paced offense from high school and wanted to play for Briles. That being said, we ain't exactly fast paced once we go off script of apparently 8 plays and with Herman at UT, he will most likely stay in state and not waste his time with our mess. Or, maybe Mac has told Nuss good bye and is targeting an up and comer?

 

[Gator Fever]

At another site someone is claiming some parents said Franks just doesnt have it now and that is why he hasnt seen the field. I assume that means upstairs after watching the Spring game and that all star game he was in. I hope that can be corrected next year if its true.

 

[46885]

I don't think it has anything to do with fans. If you want to be cynical, it could be that he doesn't feel strong about the roster next year at which point his seat becomes warm, so you get out while the getting is good. I mean think about it...what coach would leave UF for damn Oregon? I'm not buying anything about him being from the Northwest, if that's the case he could have held out at Colorado St. and gotten a top job out that way.

Let's look at the roster. We lose as much as 9 defensive starters so there will be a drop-off, the question is how much. You look at our 07' defense and it was full of NFL talent but they were still pretty bad following a year in which we lost so many starters. Now some of the younger guys have looked good so I think the outlook isn't that bad but we will lack depth in a lot of areas. Most of the freshmen will have to contribute. Now on offense...where do we start? Apparently we'e chasing that ex-Baylor QB Stidham really, really hard. Why would the staff do that unless they didn't feel good about Trask or Franks? You're talking about potentially having your QB for the next 4 years vs. taking a guy who has at most 2 more years. Anybody would favor the guy who could play for the next 4 years assuming he was good logically speaking. O-line still looks shaky too and if Nuss is back I'm not seeing a lot of improvement.

that 07 defense was the worst statistical defense ever, then one of the best ever the next two years...

 

[LouievileKat]

yet they went 4-8

no one said it wasn't a very special 4-8

 

[sadgator]

Don't they have recreational pot in Oregon? sadgator would go. Even Belk clothes look cool on pot.

 

[GatorNation79]

Maybe Mac could have done better but he did the impossible last year...winning the east and beating LSU to do it this year...NOBODY thought that would happen after the Arkansas game....I sure didn't. This program has been a mess and we've won 2 SECe titles. You might not like the way it happened but nobody here would have thought this after Muschamp left.

I hear all of these coaches names being dropped and I've heard a lot of the same people talk about what a crappy coach these guys are. Jimbo has one as national title and competes every year, same thing with Dabo and others...after a few seasons they have all gotten their teams there. Mac clearly deserves another year...a 4th I don't know...we'll see how next year goes but the man has done a good damn job. From a head coaching standpoint and an organizational stand point he's been very methodical and made the right moves for the most part. He needs some real wins in recruiting now but it's hard to complain too much about what he's gone with what he's taken on.

 

[46885]

LSU flat out choked that game and somehow made us win with 16 points... as you see, ABSOLUTELY nothing was fixed and another embarrassment to an ACC team.

 

[46885]

This winning the east out has to stop for Mac, the team is flat out awful and so is the staff. Period

 

[oozie7]

This supposed heat Mac is/has taken is so overblown and I'm so sick of hearing that rationale. He was brought here to do one thing in the short term...fix the offense while he build the rest of the program. Foley acknowledged that when he hired him and Mac acknowledged that at his first PC and has ever since. No one was expecting championships or top 5 finishes or any of that BS, people really need to stop with that ridiculous straw man. The offense has not gotten better and instead has gotten worse to the point that they are now worse than the ones Muschamp had here. And now that people are asking why that is that makes them spoiled and unappreciative? Give me a damn break.

If fans asking why the offense is going backward is so harsh then Mac may need to stop coaching. Because I can't think of any school where he would go where fans would be happy with that offensive product he's put out for two straight years. Oregon a school with no history and no championships just fired a coach that had them in the national championship 2 years ago and who had a 9 win season just a year ago so I guess all fan bases are spoiled. All we're asking for is a decent damn offense lol.

 

[SwamiG8R]

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Im not so sure Id mind

 

[93nole99]

Outside of Florida, I don't think people view UF as struggling as much as UF fans do.

Every week college football gameday and the other college football weekend shows decry the SEC East as the worst division in any of the big 5 conferences. Whether true or not...folks have been saying it for weeks. They also consistently use words like "awful" when describing UF's offense. It has become axiomatic.

Why is Oregon interested? Because they want a change of some sort, and I'm thinking they blame UF's situation instead of their coach.

 

[instaGATOR]

Less than 24 hours later, McElwain shot down those rumors. The second-year coach personally called recruits Tuesday to refute the reports, dismissing them as “hot air.” A source close to McElwain also told SEC Country he has no interest in taking another job and was upset about being linked to Oregon.

PS -- for the one that constantly harps against QB Jake Allen of STA.
Last Game vs Mater Academy - 15 of 18 (83.3%) for 181 yds, 3 TD's, 0 Ints.
Sr Season - 1,804 yds, 21 TD's, 5 Ints.

And RB Malik Davis (only a 3 star) St. Playoff - 227 yds, 2 TD's, L-71 yds.
Sr Season so far - 2,357 yds, 33 TD's.

Both xfer QB's will consider UF.
I'm hoping that neither come here. LDR - Applybe all over again.
Baylor/JuCo Jarrett Stidham - 3 years of eligibility remaining (LDR).
Neutered Lame QB Malik Zaire - Grad-Sr with 1 year eligibility remaining (Appleby).

Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results.

 

[bradleygator]

Less than 24 hours later, McElwain shot down those rumors. The second-year coach personally called recruits Tuesday to refute the reports, dismissing them as “hot air.” A source close to McElwain also told SEC Country he has no interest in taking another job and was upset about being linked to Oregon.

PS -- for the one that constantly harps against QB Jake Allen of STA.
Last Game vs Mater Academy - 15 of 18 (83.3%) for 181 yds, 3 TD's, 0 Ints.
Sr Season - 1,804 yds, 21 TD's, 5 Ints.

And RB Malik Davis (only a 3 star) 227 yds, 2 TD's, L-71 yds.
Sr Season so far - 2,357 yds, 33 TD's.

Both xfer QB's will consider UF.
I'm hoping that neither come here. LDR - Applybe all over again.
Baylor/JuCo Jarrett Stidham - 3 years of eligibility remaining (LDR).
Neutered Lame QB Malik Zaire - Grad-Sr with 1 year eligibility remaining (Appleby).

Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results.

The Baylor qb sounds interesting. If we're chasing Zaire, that's pretty disconcerting.

 

[instaGATOR]

And what do you tell the 3 Fr QB? -- Trask rsFr, Franks rsFr, Allen Fr

Sorry boys, we were jus-chittin' ya about actually playing for the Gators...

 

[Pepe Nole]

they need to get Mac an extension before any more teams come calling.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Apparently a Cessna is booked to leave South Bend and land in Eugene, Oregon.

Did someone tell them that they have the wrong Kelly?

 

[MJWilliamson]

Apparently a Cessna is booked to leave South Bend and land in Eugene, Oregon.

Did someone tell them that they have the wrong Kelly?

lulz