LSU may go after Lane Kiffin?

[Gator Fever]

It's time for LSU to think about life after Ed Orgeron. And the Tigers' AD has reputation for chasing stars

Perhaps things will turn around for Orgeron. But right now, the most audible noise is the jockeying behind-the-scenes for one of the best jobs in college football to come open.

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Never thought I would say this a few years back but Kiffin would be my choice out of those 3 coaches (I bet Saban hopes that doesn't happen). You would think this season would knock Fisher down even if he has no buyout.

I wonder if they would fire him at 8-4 having won a national championship 2 years ago.. I think 7-5 and he is canned for sure.

 

[PacoGator19]

Not sure Kiffin is ready for a big time job. I think he still has a lot to prove. James Franklin has a more impressive resume and I think is a better coach than Kiffin. Fisher is what he always has been. A solid coach that can recruit but he’s highly overrated.

 

[gatordad3]

Only Lane Kiffin would be stupid enough to go back to USCw, if offered again, after getting sh1t canned in the parking lot then told to find his own ride back home.
As for LSU, I believe they go after Bill O'Brien, James Franklin, Joe Brady, and Cristobal before they call Kiffin.
Remember, Kiffin was something like the 7th choice for USC even when Jack Del Rio turned them down, and Del Rio was about their 4th choice.

 

[PacoGator19]

Only Lane Kiffin would be stupid enough to go back to USCw, if offered again, after getting sh1t canned in the parking lot then told to find his own ride back home.
As for LSU, I believe they go after Bill O'Brien, James Franklin, Joe Brady, and Cristobal before they call Kiffin.
Remember, Kiffin was something like the 7th choice for USC even when Jack Del Rio turned them down, and Del Rio was about their 4th choice.

I don’t think Joe Brady wants anything to do with college football but Im sure LSU will kick those tires.

 

[Gator Fever]

Only Lane Kiffin would be stupid enough to go back to USCw, if offered again, after getting sh1t canned in the parking lot then told to find his own ride back home.
As for LSU, I believe they go after Bill O'Brien, James Franklin, Joe Brady, and Cristobal before they call Kiffin.
Remember, Kiffin was something like the 7th choice for USC even when Jack Del Rio turned them down, and Del Rio was about their 4th choice.

Not really sure what to think of Cristobal as he is a good recruiter and quickly turned around Oregon but then he has those bad losses to lesser teams last season. I guess if they make the playoff this year he will have proven himself.

 

[martycat1]

Well, Sat. night may tell sooner than later. If O loses to UK, I think he is done.

 

[gojvc]

It's time for LSU to think about life after Ed Orgeron. And the Tigers' AD has reputation for chasing stars

Perhaps things will turn around for Orgeron. But right now, the most audible noise is the jockeying behind-the-scenes for one of the best jobs in college football to come open.

sports.yahoo.com

Never thought I would say this a few years back but Kiffin would be my choice out of those 3 coaches (I bet Saban hopes that doesn't happen). You would think this season would knock Fisher down even if he has no buyout.

I wonder if they would fire him at 8-4 having won a national championship 2 years ago.. I think 7-5 and he is canned for sure.

If you fire a head coach two years removed from a Natty, you’re basically saying he didn’t have anything to do with it, he was lucky, and it will never happen again. I know Auburn did it but damn.

 

[GatorNation79]

If you fire a head coach two years removed from a Natty, you’re basically saying he didn’t have anything to do with it, he was lucky, and it will never happen again. I know Auburn did it but damn.

I think he was lucky.

 

[martycat1]

He in on Burrowed time.

 

[gatordad3]

If you fire a head coach two years removed from a Natty, you’re basically saying he didn’t have anything to do with it, he was lucky, and it will never happen again. I know Auburn did it but damn.

At the time LSU fired Les Miles, they didn't think Texas would be in the picture for Tom Hermann as he almost accepted the LSU job. Ultimately, they settled for a coach who was a failure at Ole Piss.
Ora John, as fat ass Tony Boselli pronounced it, caught lightning in a bottle when he brought in Joe Brady to handle the passing game in 2019.

As for Auburn, take away their 14-0 finish under Cam Newton at QB, Gene Chizik is 19-19 along with a 5-19 record at Iowa State.

 

[EvilWayz]

Noooo. I love watching the Cookie Monster post game pressers!!

 

[Nicktheslick]

Noooo. I love watching the Cookie Monster post game pressers!!

Highly entertaining

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

It's time for LSU to think about life after Ed Orgeron. And the Tigers' AD has reputation for chasing stars

Perhaps things will turn around for Orgeron. But right now, the most audible noise is the jockeying behind-the-scenes for one of the best jobs in college football to come open.

sports.yahoo.com

Never thought I would say this a few years back but Kiffin would be my choice out of those 3 coaches (I bet Saban hopes that doesn't happen). You would think this season would knock Fisher down even if he has no buyout.

I wonder if they would fire him at 8-4 having won a national championship 2 years ago.. I think 7-5 and he is canned for sure.

The Aggies just gave Jimbo a raise to over 9 million. Will he leave a school that guarantees him nearly eight figures to lose 3-5 games a year to go somewhere that same record gets coaches fired within two years of an NC?

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Highly entertaining

Amazon should hire him to be the voice of Alexa.

 

[martycat1]

The Aggies just gave Jimbo a raise to over 9 million. Will he leave a school that guarantees him nearly eight figures to lose 3-5 games a year to go somewhere that same record gets coaches fired within two years of an NC?

Either Jimbo has a great agent or it was coinsedence.

 

[gatordad3]

Noooo. I love watching the Cookie Monster post game pressers!!

 

[GwinnettDawg]

At the time LSU fired Les Miles, they didn't think Texas would be in the picture for Tom Hermann as he almost accepted the LSU job. Ultimately, they settled for a coach who was a failure at Ole Piss.
Ora John, as fat ass Tony Boselli pronounced it, caught lightning in a bottle when he brought in Joe Brady to handle the passing game in 2019.

As for Auburn, take away their 14-0 finish under Cam Newton at QB, Gene Chizik is 19-19 along with a 5-19 record at Iowa State.

and taking that away, auburn is a perennial 4-5 loss team

 

[ih8f$u]

and taking that away, auburn is a perennial 4-5 loss team

Auburn is weird. They are typically a 4-5 loss team, then every once in awhile they’ll be really bad and win 2-3 games, or they play out of their minds and play for natl titles, and there’s not really any sign they will ever be that much better or worse before the season. I think this year they’re probably in that 4-5 loss area again. Who knows. I don’t see them playing for any titles though.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Either Jimbo has a great agent or it was coinsedence.

SEC stands for the Sexton Conference.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

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I think Orgeron has a third testicle.

 

[gatordad3]

@nail1988

Fevered Brains, I believe Lincoln Riley would be an excellent hire if LSU landed him. The only school I believe could pry Riley from OU. Of course, if he brings with him a good DC.

 

[Gator Fever]

@nail1988

Fevered Brains, I believe Lincoln Riley would be an excellent hire if LSU landed him. The only school I believe could pry Riley from OU. Of course, if he brings with him a good DC.

It wouldn't shock me if he took the job since Oklahoma is coming to the SEC. No way he would have considered it if they were staying in the Big 12 imo.

 

[gatordad3]

Yo Mr Larssen, errrrr.... @nail1988

Lincoln Riley to LSU? For $12 Million a Year? He Said It's "Nothing," But Reports Continue to Surface

The Oklahoma Sooners coach said there's "nothing to handle" when it comes to rumors about his connection to the LSU Tigers.

www.si.com

I'd have this same expression too if I were an OU fan.

I do believe Riley will turn down the offer.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

Lane better come to Florida if we want to keep AR-15

 

[sadgator]

Nm

 

[sadgator]

nm

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It's time for LSU to think about life after Ed Orgeron. And the Tigers' AD has reputation for chasing stars

Perhaps things will turn around for Orgeron. But right now, the most audible noise is the jockeying behind-the-scenes for one of the best jobs in college football to come open.

sports.yahoo.com

Never thought I would say this a few years back but Kiffin would be my choice out of those 3 coaches (I bet Saban hopes that doesn't happen). You would think this season would knock Fisher down even if he has no buyout.

I wonder if they would fire him at 8-4 having won a national championship 2 years ago.. I think 7-5 and he is canned for sure.

Have said all along, Jimbo was the former Saban assistant I worried about, not Kiffin or Bowlcut.

Was proven right this year. gwinnett will back me up, assuming he hasn't been band.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Yo Mr Larssen, errrrr.... @nail1988

Lincoln Riley to LSU? For $12 Million a Year? He Said It's "Nothing," But Reports Continue to Surface

The Oklahoma Sooners coach said there's "nothing to handle" when it comes to rumors about his connection to the LSU Tigers.

www.si.com

I'd have this same expression too if I were an OU fan.

I do believe Riley will turn down the offer.

Weren't the corndogs convinced they had Herman before, then had to settle for Coach O, and act like they loved it? Could see that happening again.

 

[gatordad3]

Weren't the corndogs convinced they had Herman before, then had to settle for Coach O, and act like they loved it? Could see that happening again.

I'm thinking more of Mel Tucker or Billy Napier. They're not exactly my choices.

 

[nail1988]

Yo Mr Larssen, errrrr.... @nail1988

Lincoln Riley to LSU? For $12 Million a Year? He Said It's "Nothing," But Reports Continue to Surface

The Oklahoma Sooners coach said there's "nothing to handle" when it comes to rumors about his connection to the LSU Tigers.

www.si.com

I'd have this same expression too if I were an OU fan.

I do believe Riley will turn down the offer.

I think it’s a lot of wishful thinking by Tiger droppings and that insane fan base thinking Riley Coyote is coming to join the Bayou Bungles. Riley’s not going to a place that just lopped their coach 2 years after a national championship. The money being reported offered to Coyote and now Mel Tucker @MState ( who’s coached one year ) is absurd If true.

What do you and fevered Brain think will come of ‘cousin Eddie‘ ‘the hunchback‘ AKA 3* Dan?

 

[sadgator]

It’s gonna be funny when LSU hires somebody like Tucker and everybody is like, WTF?

 

[gatordad3]

I think it’s a lot of wishful thinking by Tiger droppings and that insane fan base thinking Riley Coyote is coming to join the Bayou Bungles. Riley’s not going to a place that just lopped their coach 2 years after a national championship. The money being reported offered to Coyote and now Mel Tucker @MState ( who’s coached one year ) is absurd If true.

What do you and fevered Brain think will come of ‘cousin Eddie‘ ‘the hunchback‘ AKA 3* Dan?

I believe they have their pick between Tucker and Napier, which I'm not fans of.
Fever and I agree that Mullen needs to go to stop the bleeding. Having new assistants won't cure anything here. Even Muschamp tried it with Stanley Roper when he got rid of Brent Pease. Then again, Roper was a horrible choice, perhaps worse than Pease.
I also think Mullen wants out ala Tubby Smith at Kentucky and Shaka Smart at Texas.

 

[Gator Fever]

I believe they have their pick between Tucker and Napier, which I'm not fans of.
Fever and I agree that Mullen needs to go to stop the bleeding. Having new assistants won't cure anything here. Even Muschamp tried it with Stanley Roper when he got rid of Brent Pease. Then again, Roper was a horrible choice, perhaps worse than Pease.
I also think Mullen wants out ala Tubby Smith at Kentucky and Shaka Smart at Texas.

The problem is Mullen probably won't be able to pull a top power 5 DC to come here in his situation and it may not save the recruiting situation even if he did. It will probably be a group of 5 DC or someone like Roper we try to build up after he is chosen.

If he does move on the only big name I wouldn't want is Franklin. Just don't like his results there since his one BIG 10 championship.

 

[GwinnettDawg]

Have said all along, Jimbo was the former Saban assistant I worried about, not Kiffin or Bowlcut.

Was proven right this year. gwinnett will back me up, assuming he hasn't been band.

You keep taking about this. I dont think I ever said Jimbo wouldn’t be the first. I dont give a shit about that. What I have said is that he is overrated, and I stand by that. You like to beat on Kirby, so tell me why you aren’t judging Jimbo for not having a natty at aTm yet? All the resources, Sumlin had stocked the cupboard. No excuses, right?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The money being reported offered to Coyote and now Mel Tucker @MState ( who’s coached one year ) is absurd If true.

I'll never understand this thinking by fans.

When Bama hired Saban, we gave him a guaranteed $25 Million. EBBERBODY in the media and fans gave us hell over it. Idiots, desperate as hell, etc.

IIRC, the U of A calculated that the PR value of all the buzz Saban's hire created in the first year or so was worth $100M. The amount of money brought into the city of Tuscaloosa every home game after we hired Saban increased by $25M a game. It's likely much higher than that now.

Saban would be a bargain at $20M a year.

I like what Nebraska did in restructuring Scott Frost's contract. I think you will see more of this over simply shitcanning a coach after one bad season. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Florida didn't tell Mullen they will restructure his deal if he wants to stay on. I'll be curious to see how Frost does from now on, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn it around now.

But the main point is, if you have a chance to hire an elite coach, you don't focus on the money it will cost to get him, you focus on the money he will generate.

That will always far outstrip the money paid. Same thing for elite coordinators.

 

[Gator Fever]

I'll never understand this thinking by fans.

When Bama hired Saban, we gave him a guaranteed $25 Million. EBBERBODY in the media and fans gave us hell over it. Idiots, desperate as hell, etc.

IIRC, the U of A calculated that the PR value of all the buzz Saban's hire created in the first year or so was worth $100M. The amount of money brought into the city of Tuscaloosa every home game after we hired Saban increased by $25M a game. It's likely much higher than that now.

Saban would be a bargain at $20M a year.

I like what Nebraska did in restructuring Scott Frost's contract. I think you will see more of this over simply shitcanning a coach after one bad season. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Florida didn't tell Mullen they will restructure his deal if he wants to stay on. I'll be curious to see how Frost does from now on, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn it around now.

But the main point is, if you have a chance to hire an elite coach, you don't focus on the money it will cost to get him, you focus on the money he will generate.

That will always far outstrip the money paid. Same thing for elite coordinators.

I think its out of control now though because you are paying based on potential most times unless the person has already kicked butt as a power 5 coach and don't even get me started on some of the sports that hardly break even if that with mostly empty fan areas and some of these politically correct contracts that have started popping up. I compare it to the difference between Japanese CEO pay and American CEO pay back when Japan came really roaring on the scene. Japan just never started paying the CEOs nearly as much despite the revenues of the companies. These agents have really played the universities.

 

[PacoGator19]

I think it has gotten way out of control but it’s just going to get worse. The SEC has more money then they know what to do with so that is going to cause things to get even crazier.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think its out of control now though because you are paying based on potential most times unless the person has already kicked butt as a power 5 coach and don't even get me started on some of the sports that hardly break even if that with mostly empty fan areas and some of these politically correct contracts that have started popping up. I compare it to the difference between Japanese CEO pay and American CEO pay back when Japan came really roaring on the scene. Japan just never started paying the CEOs nearly as much despite the revenues of the companies. These agents have really played the universities.

Sure, if you pay a lot for a coach and he bombs, it wasn't a good investment.

But if you have an elite coach that will get elite results, then money shouldn't matter.

Trying to low-ball a coach on salary is never a good idea. If the coach bombs, ok you saved a few bucks. But if he ends up being a home run, he will resent you lowballing him, and likely go with another team that didn't.

I think fans that get hung up on a head coach being offered several million a year really have little idea how much money a good head coach drives into a program.

If you hire the right guy, you will recoup that investment 100X over. Easily.

Go after the guy you want, offer him the moon. If you feel he's unproven, then put some performance-based guardrails in the contract.

 

[Gator Fever]

Sure, if you pay a lot for a coach and he bombs, it wasn't a good investment.

But if you have an elite coach that will get elite results, then money shouldn't matter.

Trying to low-ball a coach on salary is never a good idea. If the coach bombs, ok you saved a few bucks. But if he ends up being a home run, he will resent you lowballing him, and likely go with another team that didn't.

I think fans that get hung up on a head coach being offered several million a year really have little idea how much money a good head coach drives into a program.

If you hire the right guy, you will recoup that investment 100X over. Easily.

Go after the guy you want, offer him the moon. If you feel he's unproven, then put some performance-based guardrails in the contract.

Trying to think who really would fit the bill for the crazy money. Saban and Swinney I guess. Maybe Riley? Even Ohio State's situation makes an argument you can plug and play a little at some places unless you think that guy is near Meyer's level. Riley followed Stoops but he had a great rep for offense.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Trying to think who really would fit the bill for the crazy money.

Your head coach fits the bill. To be completely honest, when you guys hired Mullen, I was a bit surprised that the initial contract was $6M a year. That was good for 5th best in the SEC at the time, behind both Kirby and Gus Bus in Auburn. I would have figured Florida would have offered closer to $7M a year.

That's another reason to pay more for coaches: You attract better candidates.

You keep calling it crazy money, I think it's a smart investment.