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Old, but some of what was actually said. I am not arguing for higher taxes, just calling out the misinformation that is perpetuated on here.

In a week when taxes and tax returns have dominated the headlines, billionaire investor Warren Buffett jumped back into the political debate and showed his returns exclusively to ABC News' Bianna Golodryga, adding, "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts."

Buffett's secretary since 1993, Debbie Bosanek, sat next to her boss just hours after being invited by the president to the State of the Union address, where the president made her the face of tax inequality in America.

Bosanek pays a tax rate of 35.8 percent of income, while Buffett pays a rate at 17.4 percent.

"I just feel like an average citizen. I represent the average citizen who needs a voice," said Bosanek. "Everybody in our office is paying a higher tax rate than Warren."


During Tuesday night's State of the Union address, President Obama, for the first time, put a minimum percentage figure on the amount of taxes the ultra-rich should pay - 30 percent - an idea that has been referred to as the "Buffett rule."

"The question is what is fair when you have to raise multi-trillions to fund the United States of America," said Buffett. "[Raising taxes] will not change my behavior. I have paid all different kinds of rates and I've always been interested in making money. I believe this should be a defining issue. Debbie works just as hard as I do and she pays twice the rate I do."

Buffett, a Democrat and Obama-supporter, had one question for Mitt Romney: "Do you think the tax system should be perpetuated?"

He doesn't blame the former Massachusetts governor or any of the ultra-rich for paying lower tax rates than most Americans and challenged Congress to make a change.

"I don't pay hardly any payroll taxes," Buffett said. "Gov. Romney hardly pays any payroll taxes, Newt Gingrich hardly pays any payroll taxes. Debbie pays lots of payroll taxes."

He lashed out at assertions from many Republican leaders that the "Buffett rule" is class warfare.

"If this is a war, my side has the nuclear bomb," Buffett said. "We have K Street. … We have Wall Street. Debbie doesn't have anybody. I want a government that is responsive to the people who got the short straw in life."
 
Old, but some of what was actually said. I am not arguing for higher taxes, just calling out the misinformation that is perpetuated on here.

In a week when taxes and tax returns have dominated the headlines, billionaire investor Warren Buffett jumped back into the political debate and showed his returns exclusively to ABC News' Bianna Golodryga, adding, "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts."

Buffett's secretary since 1993, Debbie Bosanek, sat next to her boss just hours after being invited by the president to the State of the Union address, where the president made her the face of tax inequality in America.

Bosanek pays a tax rate of 35.8 percent of income, while Buffett pays a rate at 17.4 percent.

"I just feel like an average citizen. I represent the average citizen who needs a voice," said Bosanek. "Everybody in our office is paying a higher tax rate than Warren."


During Tuesday night's State of the Union address, President Obama, for the first time, put a minimum percentage figure on the amount of taxes the ultra-rich should pay - 30 percent - an idea that has been referred to as the "Buffett rule."

"The question is what is fair when you have to raise multi-trillions to fund the United States of America," said Buffett. "[Raising taxes] will not change my behavior. I have paid all different kinds of rates and I've always been interested in making money. I believe this should be a defining issue. Debbie works just as hard as I do and she pays twice the rate I do."

Buffett, a Democrat and Obama-supporter, had one question for Mitt Romney: "Do you think the tax system should be perpetuated?"

He doesn't blame the former Massachusetts governor or any of the ultra-rich for paying lower tax rates than most Americans and challenged Congress to make a change.

"I don't pay hardly any payroll taxes," Buffett said. "Gov. Romney hardly pays any payroll taxes, Newt Gingrich hardly pays any payroll taxes. Debbie pays lots of payroll taxes."

He lashed out at assertions from many Republican leaders that the "Buffett rule" is class warfare.

"If this is a war, my side has the nuclear bomb," Buffett said. "We have K Street. … We have Wall Street. Debbie doesn't have anybody. I want a government that is responsive to the people who got the short straw in life."
Then they should have a flat tax, so everyone pays the same percentage, and it takes out all of the loopholes ...
 
The dems have pounded the drum for years that the rich need to pay their "fair share." But when asked what is the fair share or what percentage would be the fair share, not once have I heard any dem give a direct answer. Who exactly determines what's fair. The dems act like the concept of fair share is a fact rather than an opinion.
Dims are all bald faced liars...that is the issue
 
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Then they should have a flat tax, so everyone pays the same percentage, and it takes out all of the loopholes ...
How does it take out the loopholes? You would still need to figure out the taxable income for everybody......included people who are in business for themselves, investors in partnerships, etc.

It would even it out for capital gains and ordinary income though.
 
How does it take out the loopholes? You would still need to figure out the taxable income for everybody......included people who are in business for themselves, investors in partnerships, etc.

It would even it out for capital gains and ordinary income though.
I haven't seen them lately, but in the ones I have seen they reduced deductions to the bare bare minimum and then Tax everything else. There has got to be a better system than the Democrats tax and spend bullshit and the Republicans complicitly going along with it.
 
I haven't seen them lately, but in the ones I have seen they reduced deductions to the bare bare minimum and then Tax everything else. There has got to be a better system than the Democrats tax and spend bullshit and the Republicans complicitly going along with it.
I agree with you there. The system we have now is ridiculous as a whole. And it just get worse as time goes by.
 
I will give you a specific example. In 2023 the tax rate for a single individual gets higher than the capital gains rate once they get over $44,725 of taxable income. So lets assume Buffets secretary has $50,000 of taxable income and Warren Buffet has $50 million of taxable income in 2023.

Lets then assume that the secretary gets a $10K Christmas bonus in December and Buffet also makes an extra $10K capital gain in December, what tax is due on that income? I will assume Buffett is paying 20% on his capital gains because that is the basic rate.....some folks with pay 23.8% but I suspect Buffett will qualify for 20% on a lot of his deals.....but that is really an unknown.

So Buffett pays $2,000 on his capital gain and walks away with $8K profit.

The secretary pays $2,200 on her bonus in income tax. But there is a kicker, she also has to pay FICA/Social security tax on her earnings and Buffett doesn't. That's an additional 7.65% in tax.

So on her $10k bonus the secretary walks away with $7,035 in cash compared to Buffets $8,000. This is what Buffet is talking about....the marginal tax rates they are both in. Does this seem equitable to you?

Also note the numbers get much worse if the secretary is getting paid, say, $250K.....because then she pays 37% income tax instead of the 22% in my example. Someone in that situation would only walk away with only $6,155 of the $10 grand after taxes.

Its good to be Warren Buffett.
Taxes were implemented to raise revenue for government expenditures. So your question about equity is puzzling.

I am well aware of how taxes are calculated. I don't care how much Warren Buffett pays or anyone else for that matter it is not my business. Focusing on his effective tax rate instead of the amount he actually pays is disingenuous and does not tell the whole story.
 
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The dems have pounded the drum for years that the rich need to pay their "fair share." But when asked what is the fair share or what percentage would be the fair share, not once have I heard any dem give a direct answer. Who exactly determines what's fair. The dems act like the concept of fair share is a fact rather than an opinion.
dems love words like fair just like equity, inclusion, etc. Those words activate their voters who love to play victim.
 
Wow, you are doing yourself no favors here credibility-wise ...
Why so? Pretending to be an expert on everything is not my style. I can definitely Google it and lie about knowing better than others. I see it regularly on her and social media overall.

I'll argue that I have more credibility for being honest about what I know and what I don't know.
 
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Well if you are around black culture like you claim, you would know that we say throw shots. Listen to any rap diss song or interview about a diss song. Guess you were lying about knowing black culture.

I love being black and speaking black. You don't need to make me white. Thanks though.
Throwing shots is the same as slinging lead? Huh. I would think it meant throwing hands. 😂 Theo knows you have a gun problem now.😂
 
I think bonuses should be taxed over a certain amount, thats why i hate it. When I reach that amount then I'll be ok with it. So I'm not anti taxing bonuses.

Yes they take taxes.
You do know why your bonuses are taxed so heavily don't you? It's because the software is hard coded to tax them as if that's your normal weekly or biweekly check. It extrapolates them and annualizes them over a year's period. The good news is that you "probably" get a big tax refund at the end of the year. And of course, MDFer hates this, he luffs him some government control of your hard earned paycheck. ;)
 
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Old, but some of what was actually said. I am not arguing for higher taxes, just calling out the misinformation that is perpetuated on here.

In a week when taxes and tax returns have dominated the headlines, billionaire investor Warren Buffett jumped back into the political debate and showed his returns exclusively to ABC News' Bianna Golodryga, adding, "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts."

Buffett's secretary since 1993, Debbie Bosanek, sat next to her boss just hours after being invited by the president to the State of the Union address, where the president made her the face of tax inequality in America.

Bosanek pays a tax rate of 35.8 percent of income, while Buffett pays a rate at 17.4 percent.

"I just feel like an average citizen. I represent the average citizen who needs a voice," said Bosanek. "Everybody in our office is paying a higher tax rate than Warren."


During Tuesday night's State of the Union address, President Obama, for the first time, put a minimum percentage figure on the amount of taxes the ultra-rich should pay - 30 percent - an idea that has been referred to as the "Buffett rule."

"The question is what is fair when you have to raise multi-trillions to fund the United States of America," said Buffett. "[Raising taxes] will not change my behavior. I have paid all different kinds of rates and I've always been interested in making money. I believe this should be a defining issue. Debbie works just as hard as I do and she pays twice the rate I do."

Buffett, a Democrat and Obama-supporter, had one question for Mitt Romney: "Do you think the tax system should be perpetuated?"

He doesn't blame the former Massachusetts governor or any of the ultra-rich for paying lower tax rates than most Americans and challenged Congress to make a change.

"I don't pay hardly any payroll taxes," Buffett said. "Gov. Romney hardly pays any payroll taxes, Newt Gingrich hardly pays any payroll taxes. Debbie pays lots of payroll taxes."

He lashed out at assertions from many Republican leaders that the "Buffett rule" is class warfare.

"If this is a war, my side has the nuclear bomb," Buffett said. "We have K Street. … We have Wall Street. Debbie doesn't have anybody. I want a government that is responsive to the people who got the short straw in life."
That old wives tale Buffet told is FOS and the paper it's printed on is turning yellow. I doubt his secretary paid jacksheet unless he pays her over $100k a year. 😂
 
My bonus was taxed under Trump too. Literally no difference.
Just for you kalim a ling a ding dong:

Loop Trump GIF
 
My bonus was taxed under Trump too. Literally no difference.
The tax cuts Trump put in place are still in effect.

I’ll say it again, if you want the gov’t to have more of your money, vote for Biden.

 
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The tax cuts Trump put in place are still in effect.

I’ll say it again, if you want the gov’t to have more of your money, vote for Biden.

What the clueless ruhtahds on the interwebz either do not realize, or gloss over, or flat out lie about............Trump gave tax cuts across the board, but mostly to the middle class. The n'er do wells pay ZERO tax to begin with. The middle class paid too much. The rich got little to nothing of a tax break. Corporations got a break because, well, they feed jobs to the middle class and po. We've already had the discussion that corporate taxes are a tax on consumers to begin with. And yet, the lying leftists howl like wounded buffalo, "why didn't Trump make the individual tax cuts permanent like the corporate rates? I'll tell you why. Republicans didn't have enough of a majority to ram that through Congress, so they did the next best thing. They gave individuals the tax cut for 7 years because the Dimtards tried to scuttle the entire package, that's exactly why. It was either having individual tax cuts sunset or get zero, nada, zilch, zip regarding confiscation rates. You can fool some of the people all the time, your can fool all of the people some of the time, but Democrats will lie like a snake ALL of the time.
 
What the clueless ruhtahds on the interwebz either do not realize, or gloss over, or flat out lie about............Trump gave tax cuts across the board, but mostly to the middle class. The n'er do wells pay ZERO tax to begin with. The middle class paid too much. The rich got little to nothing of a tax break. Corporations got a break because, well, they feed jobs to the middle class and po. We've already had the discussion that corporate taxes are a tax on consumers to begin with. And yet, the lying leftists howl like wounded buffalo, "why didn't Trump make the individual tax cuts permanent like the corporate rates? I'll tell you why. Republicans didn't have enough of a majority to ram that through Congress, so they did the next best thing. They gave individuals the tax cut for 7 years because the Dimtards tried to scuttle the entire package, that's exactly why. It was either having individual tax cuts sunset or get zero, nada, zilch, zip regarding confiscation rates. You can fool some of the people all the time, your can fool all of the people some of the time, but Democrats will lie like a snake ALL of the time.

Six years later, more evidence shows the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act benefits U.S. business owners and executives, not average workers​

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When policymakers were debating the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, many proponents claimed that average U.S. workers would benefit via wage increases. These adherents of trickle-down economic theory argued that, alongside other business tax cuts in the law, slashing the C-corporation tax rate by 14 percentage points, from 35 percent to 21 percent, would reduce these firms’ cost of capital—or how expensive, after tax, it is to invest in new projects. This, proponents said, would spur private investment, which, in turn, would boost workers’ productivity and thus increase wages and job openings.
This highly speculative string of contingencies is a tenet of faith among supply-side economists. Yet the empirical evidence has never been on their side. And now, nearly 6 years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law by former President Donald Trump, a new study further reinforces that these business tax cuts benefit highly paid executives, not the vast majority of U.S. workers.
Indeed, the paper—by Patrick Kennedy, Paul Landefeld, and Jacob Mortenson, all of the U.S. Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation, and Christine Dobridge of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors—finds that almost all of the benefits of the 2017 law’s signature $1.3 trillion C-corporation tax cut went to high-income shareholders and executives—not low- or moderate-income workers. (This $1.3 trillion figure refers to the 10-year cost estimate specifically for the C-corporation rate cut provision, provided by the Joint Committee on Taxation before the bill was passed.)
Using anonymized tax records and sophisticated methods, the four co-authors find that workers below the 90th percentile in their firm’s earnings distribution did not receive any wage boost from the C-corporation tax cut. (See Figure 1.)
Figure 1

Only already very well-paid workers saw a wage increase from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017’s C-corporation tax cut​

Change in annual earnings for U.S. workers at various within-firm income positions between those working at C-corporations and those working at similarly situated S-corporations
Firm Wage Centile

NOTES: Unit of analysis is firm year. The bottom 20 percent of the distribution is excluded because the presence of part-time workers makes the estimate imprecise. Standard errors are clustered by firm and error bands show 95 percent confidence intervals.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf.​

To reach these conclusions, Kennedy and his co-authors compare C-corporations—the legal structure used by U.S. firms, including all public companies, seeking large amounts of outside investment—with similarly situated S-corporations, which raise money from a limited number of shareholders and are treated as a pass-through entity by the U.S. tax code. S-corporations’ profits are not taxed at the firm level but instead flow to owners and are taxed at the individual level. C-corporations received a larger tax cut in 2017 than S-corporations did, a difference the authors exploit for their analysis.
Kennedy and his co-authors conclude that 49 percent of the gains from the C-corporation cut went to the owners of firms, while 11 percent went to firm executives (the top five highest-paid workers at the firm). The other 40 percent went to high-income workers (or those above the 90th percentile within their firm). Precisely zero percent went to low-paid workers (or those below the 90th percentile). This means executives alone pocketed $13.2 billion annually—a pay bump of roughly $50,000 per executive—while median workers received nothing.
In total, 81 percent of the gains from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation rate cut were captured by the top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution, with the top 1 percent seeing a whopping 24 percent of the benefits. (See Figure 2.)
Figure 2

The top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution captured more than 80 percent of the 2017 corporate tax cut benefits​

Annual change for U.S. workers by job role and income as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation tax cut
Incidence estimates

NOTE: To compute distributional incidence, gains of firm owners are allocated to workers using data on capital ownership from the Federal Reserve Distributional Financial Accounts.​


NOTE: The top 10 percent of the income distribution does not receive 100 percent of the benefits because some high-income workers, while in the top 10 percent of earners at their firms, are not in the top 10 percent of the country’s total income distribution. Likewise, some low-income workers are also business owners, usually in the form of mutual funds held in retirement accounts.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf

The paper does not address other types of inequality, but those at the top of the U.S. earnings distribution are disproportionately White or Asian, so it is likely that the distributional impacts on display in this study represent an exacerbation of racial income gaps in the United States.
Further, the four co-authors find that the C-corporation rate cut delivered $122 billion in additional private income per year—but to achieve that modest output gain, the federal government spent $86 billion in foregone revenue. It’s important to note that this figure is lower than what the Joint Committee on Taxation and other scorers have estimated because this paper’s authors find that the tax cut spurred some additional profits, leading to slightly higher taxes paid than had there been no feedback effects.
One caveat to keep in mind: This study is probably most illustrative of the impact of the C-corporation cut on mid-sized firms, since there are few S-corporations large enough to serve as a reliable comparison group to large multinational C-corporations. Additionally, to target the analysis on firms that the authors are confident received a large tax cut, the sample is restricted to companies with at least 50 employees and $1 million in sales per year from 2013 to 2016.
The findings from Kennedy and his co-authors dovetail with analysis of pre-Tax Cuts and Jobs Act tax breaks from Eric Ohrn from Grinnell College. Ohrn finds that executive pay increases by 25 cents for every dollar of tax cuts received. Ohrn also finds that a 1 percentage point decrease in effective tax rates increases the compensation of the five highest-paid executives at affected firms by 4.2 percent, or $611,000 on average. This is very similar to a previous finding from Kennedy’s three co-authors, who, using a different dataset, traced the impact of the same business tax cut to determine that corporate officers received a 4.4 percent increase in compensation for every 1 percentage point decrease in the tax rate, compared to a more modest 1.3 percent raise for nonofficers.
Why do owners and executives capture most of the benefits from business tax breaks? The best explanation is that U.S. labor market inefficiencies prevent workers from being rewarded for their productivity. Low- and moderate-income workers lack the necessary bargaining power to demand their fair share of tax cut proceeds, while executives enjoy undue influence over their compensation, winning raises that are not justified by firm performance.
This is consistent with research on monopsony, in which employers enjoy the market power necessary to keep wages inefficiently low. Indeed, the previous study from Kennedy’s three co-authors finds that smaller firms are more likely to share tax break proceeds with median-wage workers—evidence that market power, proxied here by company size, plays a role.
Additionally, Ohrn finds that firms with large institutional shareholders and shorter executive tenures—examples of strong corporate governance structures—did not increase executive compensation with proceeds from their tax breaks. This implies that companies with less robust checks on corporate governance may be falling prey to “executive capture,” in which CEOs leverage relationships with members of their Boards of Directors to win higher compensation.
This theory is corroborated by other researchers who have looked specifically at Congress’ past attempts to use the tax code to limit executive compensation. Section 162(m) of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, for example, removed the tax deductibility of CEO pay. While a similar provision in the law that applied to nonprofit organizations did appear to reduce CEO salaries, Section 162(m) had little to no effect, according to multiple rigorous studies. This implies that even when policymakers effectively make it more expensive to pay CEOs, executive salaries still rise—proof that these exorbitant pay packages are not the result of rational economic decision-making.
The new findings from Kennedy and his co-authors are important for two main reasons. First, they provide important nuance to an age-old policy question: Who bears the costs or benefits from business tax changes? Historically, researchers have delivered fairly crude, aggregate estimates. The Joint Committee on Taxation assumes, for example, that based on its synthesis of the academic literature a full 100 percent of the cost of tax increases is borne by owners in the short run, and 75 percent is borne by owners in the long run, with workers paying the remaining 25 percent. The committee increases the share borne by owners to 95 percent for tax changes affecting pass-through businesses because they have less ability to move capital or operations abroad to avoid taxes.
In contrast, the Congressional Budget Office allocates 75 percent to capital income and 25 percent to labor income. The U.S. Treasury Department takes a more complicated approach that distinguishes between normal and supernormal returns to capital, but the upshot is an 82 percent-18 percent split between the capital and labor incidence of the corporate tax.
Yet the Joint Committee on Taxation, Congressional Budget Office, and Treasury Department all assume that the benefits or costs to workers from tax changes mirror the distribution of wages more generally. The evidence above belies that assumption, demonstrating that wage increases from tax cuts are even less equally shared than the nation’s already very unequal wage distribution. This means that researchers and policymakers must think more granularly about the heterogeneous effects of tax policy.
Second, the authors’ findings show how taxes interact with other economic phenomena, such as market power. Given the outsized power of employers in the U.S. labor market, corporations may be able to both hoard the proceeds of tax cuts and pass on the cost of tax increases to workers. This asymmetrical situation would leave policymakers in a bind: Reversing tax cuts alone might not be enough to claw back the unjustified gains that shareholders and executives received from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
That’s why researchers and policymakers must think about combating inequality more holistically. Tax policy researchers, for example, should adjust their models’ assumption that labor markets function competitively. And policymakers should consider tax policy changes in concert with other reforms that address inequality in the United States, such as lax corporate governance standards and weak labor and antitrust protections.
 
That old wives tale Buffet told is FOS and the paper it's printed on is turning yellow. I doubt his secretary paid jacksheet unless he pays her over $100k a year. 😂
His secretary was sitting right next to him when they both said it. And I would expect the secretary of one of the richest men in the world would make quite a lot.

But it doesn't change the general point anyway.....which is that the marginal tax rate in 2023 for a single person was higher than 20% at about $45K in taxable income. Any single person making more than about $66K a year in taxable income (about $80K before the standard deduction) pays a higher rate than the 20% capital gain rate.

That's just math.
 

Six years later, more evidence shows the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act benefits U.S. business owners and executives, not average workers​

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When policymakers were debating the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, many proponents claimed that average U.S. workers would benefit via wage increases. These adherents of trickle-down economic theory argued that, alongside other business tax cuts in the law, slashing the C-corporation tax rate by 14 percentage points, from 35 percent to 21 percent, would reduce these firms’ cost of capital—or how expensive, after tax, it is to invest in new projects. This, proponents said, would spur private investment, which, in turn, would boost workers’ productivity and thus increase wages and job openings.
This highly speculative string of contingencies is a tenet of faith among supply-side economists. Yet the empirical evidence has never been on their side. And now, nearly 6 years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law by former President Donald Trump, a new study further reinforces that these business tax cuts benefit highly paid executives, not the vast majority of U.S. workers.
Indeed, the paper—by Patrick Kennedy, Paul Landefeld, and Jacob Mortenson, all of the U.S. Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation, and Christine Dobridge of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors—finds that almost all of the benefits of the 2017 law’s signature $1.3 trillion C-corporation tax cut went to high-income shareholders and executives—not low- or moderate-income workers. (This $1.3 trillion figure refers to the 10-year cost estimate specifically for the C-corporation rate cut provision, provided by the Joint Committee on Taxation before the bill was passed.)
Using anonymized tax records and sophisticated methods, the four co-authors find that workers below the 90th percentile in their firm’s earnings distribution did not receive any wage boost from the C-corporation tax cut. (See Figure 1.)
Figure 1

Only already very well-paid workers saw a wage increase from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017’s C-corporation tax cut​

Change in annual earnings for U.S. workers at various within-firm income positions between those working at C-corporations and those working at similarly situated S-corporations
Firm Wage Centile

NOTES: Unit of analysis is firm year. The bottom 20 percent of the distribution is excluded because the presence of part-time workers makes the estimate imprecise. Standard errors are clustered by firm and error bands show 95 percent confidence intervals.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf.​

To reach these conclusions, Kennedy and his co-authors compare C-corporations—the legal structure used by U.S. firms, including all public companies, seeking large amounts of outside investment—with similarly situated S-corporations, which raise money from a limited number of shareholders and are treated as a pass-through entity by the U.S. tax code. S-corporations’ profits are not taxed at the firm level but instead flow to owners and are taxed at the individual level. C-corporations received a larger tax cut in 2017 than S-corporations did, a difference the authors exploit for their analysis.
Kennedy and his co-authors conclude that 49 percent of the gains from the C-corporation cut went to the owners of firms, while 11 percent went to firm executives (the top five highest-paid workers at the firm). The other 40 percent went to high-income workers (or those above the 90th percentile within their firm). Precisely zero percent went to low-paid workers (or those below the 90th percentile). This means executives alone pocketed $13.2 billion annually—a pay bump of roughly $50,000 per executive—while median workers received nothing.
In total, 81 percent of the gains from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation rate cut were captured by the top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution, with the top 1 percent seeing a whopping 24 percent of the benefits. (See Figure 2.)
Figure 2

The top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution captured more than 80 percent of the 2017 corporate tax cut benefits​

Annual change for U.S. workers by job role and income as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation tax cut
Incidence estimates

NOTE: To compute distributional incidence, gains of firm owners are allocated to workers using data on capital ownership from the Federal Reserve Distributional Financial Accounts.​


NOTE: The top 10 percent of the income distribution does not receive 100 percent of the benefits because some high-income workers, while in the top 10 percent of earners at their firms, are not in the top 10 percent of the country’s total income distribution. Likewise, some low-income workers are also business owners, usually in the form of mutual funds held in retirement accounts.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf

The paper does not address other types of inequality, but those at the top of the U.S. earnings distribution are disproportionately White or Asian, so it is likely that the distributional impacts on display in this study represent an exacerbation of racial income gaps in the United States.
Further, the four co-authors find that the C-corporation rate cut delivered $122 billion in additional private income per year—but to achieve that modest output gain, the federal government spent $86 billion in foregone revenue. It’s important to note that this figure is lower than what the Joint Committee on Taxation and other scorers have estimated because this paper’s authors find that the tax cut spurred some additional profits, leading to slightly higher taxes paid than had there been no feedback effects.
One caveat to keep in mind: This study is probably most illustrative of the impact of the C-corporation cut on mid-sized firms, since there are few S-corporations large enough to serve as a reliable comparison group to large multinational C-corporations. Additionally, to target the analysis on firms that the authors are confident received a large tax cut, the sample is restricted to companies with at least 50 employees and $1 million in sales per year from 2013 to 2016.
The findings from Kennedy and his co-authors dovetail with analysis of pre-Tax Cuts and Jobs Act tax breaks from Eric Ohrn from Grinnell College. Ohrn finds that executive pay increases by 25 cents for every dollar of tax cuts received. Ohrn also finds that a 1 percentage point decrease in effective tax rates increases the compensation of the five highest-paid executives at affected firms by 4.2 percent, or $611,000 on average. This is very similar to a previous finding from Kennedy’s three co-authors, who, using a different dataset, traced the impact of the same business tax cut to determine that corporate officers received a 4.4 percent increase in compensation for every 1 percentage point decrease in the tax rate, compared to a more modest 1.3 percent raise for nonofficers.
Why do owners and executives capture most of the benefits from business tax breaks? The best explanation is that U.S. labor market inefficiencies prevent workers from being rewarded for their productivity. Low- and moderate-income workers lack the necessary bargaining power to demand their fair share of tax cut proceeds, while executives enjoy undue influence over their compensation, winning raises that are not justified by firm performance.
This is consistent with research on monopsony, in which employers enjoy the market power necessary to keep wages inefficiently low. Indeed, the previous study from Kennedy’s three co-authors finds that smaller firms are more likely to share tax break proceeds with median-wage workers—evidence that market power, proxied here by company size, plays a role.
Additionally, Ohrn finds that firms with large institutional shareholders and shorter executive tenures—examples of strong corporate governance structures—did not increase executive compensation with proceeds from their tax breaks. This implies that companies with less robust checks on corporate governance may be falling prey to “executive capture,” in which CEOs leverage relationships with members of their Boards of Directors to win higher compensation.
This theory is corroborated by other researchers who have looked specifically at Congress’ past attempts to use the tax code to limit executive compensation. Section 162(m) of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, for example, removed the tax deductibility of CEO pay. While a similar provision in the law that applied to nonprofit organizations did appear to reduce CEO salaries, Section 162(m) had little to no effect, according to multiple rigorous studies. This implies that even when policymakers effectively make it more expensive to pay CEOs, executive salaries still rise—proof that these exorbitant pay packages are not the result of rational economic decision-making.
The new findings from Kennedy and his co-authors are important for two main reasons. First, they provide important nuance to an age-old policy question: Who bears the costs or benefits from business tax changes? Historically, researchers have delivered fairly crude, aggregate estimates. The Joint Committee on Taxation assumes, for example, that based on its synthesis of the academic literature a full 100 percent of the cost of tax increases is borne by owners in the short run, and 75 percent is borne by owners in the long run, with workers paying the remaining 25 percent. The committee increases the share borne by owners to 95 percent for tax changes affecting pass-through businesses because they have less ability to move capital or operations abroad to avoid taxes.
In contrast, the Congressional Budget Office allocates 75 percent to capital income and 25 percent to labor income. The U.S. Treasury Department takes a more complicated approach that distinguishes between normal and supernormal returns to capital, but the upshot is an 82 percent-18 percent split between the capital and labor incidence of the corporate tax.
Yet the Joint Committee on Taxation, Congressional Budget Office, and Treasury Department all assume that the benefits or costs to workers from tax changes mirror the distribution of wages more generally. The evidence above belies that assumption, demonstrating that wage increases from tax cuts are even less equally shared than the nation’s already very unequal wage distribution. This means that researchers and policymakers must think more granularly about the heterogeneous effects of tax policy.
Second, the authors’ findings show how taxes interact with other economic phenomena, such as market power. Given the outsized power of employers in the U.S. labor market, corporations may be able to both hoard the proceeds of tax cuts and pass on the cost of tax increases to workers. This asymmetrical situation would leave policymakers in a bind: Reversing tax cuts alone might not be enough to claw back the unjustified gains that shareholders and executives received from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
That’s why researchers and policymakers must think about combating inequality more holistically. Tax policy researchers, for example, should adjust their models’ assumption that labor markets function competitively. And policymakers should consider tax policy changes in concert with other reforms that address inequality in the United States, such as lax corporate governance standards and weak labor and antitrust protections.
Just what America DOES NOT NEED...a party who put us in the shape we are today with crippling inflation, high interest rates and open borders TRYING to tell everyone else how to tax the people. HARD PASS...I will take the economy under Reagan and Trump over this garbage any day. People that are too stupid to understand how relieving small business owners of unjust taxation. Dimwits want gubment to control their lives. We will not allow for that to happen
 

Six years later, more evidence shows the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act benefits U.S. business owners and executives, not average workers​

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When policymakers were debating the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, many proponents claimed that average U.S. workers would benefit via wage increases. These adherents of trickle-down economic theory argued that, alongside other business tax cuts in the law, slashing the C-corporation tax rate by 14 percentage points, from 35 percent to 21 percent, would reduce these firms’ cost of capital—or how expensive, after tax, it is to invest in new projects. This, proponents said, would spur private investment, which, in turn, would boost workers’ productivity and thus increase wages and job openings.
This highly speculative string of contingencies is a tenet of faith among supply-side economists. Yet the empirical evidence has never been on their side. And now, nearly 6 years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law by former President Donald Trump, a new study further reinforces that these business tax cuts benefit highly paid executives, not the vast majority of U.S. workers.
Indeed, the paper—by Patrick Kennedy, Paul Landefeld, and Jacob Mortenson, all of the U.S. Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation, and Christine Dobridge of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors—finds that almost all of the benefits of the 2017 law’s signature $1.3 trillion C-corporation tax cut went to high-income shareholders and executives—not low- or moderate-income workers. (This $1.3 trillion figure refers to the 10-year cost estimate specifically for the C-corporation rate cut provision, provided by the Joint Committee on Taxation before the bill was passed.)
Using anonymized tax records and sophisticated methods, the four co-authors find that workers below the 90th percentile in their firm’s earnings distribution did not receive any wage boost from the C-corporation tax cut. (See Figure 1.)
Figure 1

Only already very well-paid workers saw a wage increase from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017’s C-corporation tax cut​

Change in annual earnings for U.S. workers at various within-firm income positions between those working at C-corporations and those working at similarly situated S-corporations
Firm Wage Centile

NOTES: Unit of analysis is firm year. The bottom 20 percent of the distribution is excluded because the presence of part-time workers makes the estimate imprecise. Standard errors are clustered by firm and error bands show 95 percent confidence intervals.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf.​

To reach these conclusions, Kennedy and his co-authors compare C-corporations—the legal structure used by U.S. firms, including all public companies, seeking large amounts of outside investment—with similarly situated S-corporations, which raise money from a limited number of shareholders and are treated as a pass-through entity by the U.S. tax code. S-corporations’ profits are not taxed at the firm level but instead flow to owners and are taxed at the individual level. C-corporations received a larger tax cut in 2017 than S-corporations did, a difference the authors exploit for their analysis.
Kennedy and his co-authors conclude that 49 percent of the gains from the C-corporation cut went to the owners of firms, while 11 percent went to firm executives (the top five highest-paid workers at the firm). The other 40 percent went to high-income workers (or those above the 90th percentile within their firm). Precisely zero percent went to low-paid workers (or those below the 90th percentile). This means executives alone pocketed $13.2 billion annually—a pay bump of roughly $50,000 per executive—while median workers received nothing.
In total, 81 percent of the gains from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation rate cut were captured by the top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution, with the top 1 percent seeing a whopping 24 percent of the benefits. (See Figure 2.)
Figure 2

The top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution captured more than 80 percent of the 2017 corporate tax cut benefits​

Annual change for U.S. workers by job role and income as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation tax cut
Incidence estimates

NOTE: To compute distributional incidence, gains of firm owners are allocated to workers using data on capital ownership from the Federal Reserve Distributional Financial Accounts.​


NOTE: The top 10 percent of the income distribution does not receive 100 percent of the benefits because some high-income workers, while in the top 10 percent of earners at their firms, are not in the top 10 percent of the country’s total income distribution. Likewise, some low-income workers are also business owners, usually in the form of mutual funds held in retirement accounts.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf

The paper does not address other types of inequality, but those at the top of the U.S. earnings distribution are disproportionately White or Asian, so it is likely that the distributional impacts on display in this study represent an exacerbation of racial income gaps in the United States.
Further, the four co-authors find that the C-corporation rate cut delivered $122 billion in additional private income per year—but to achieve that modest output gain, the federal government spent $86 billion in foregone revenue. It’s important to note that this figure is lower than what the Joint Committee on Taxation and other scorers have estimated because this paper’s authors find that the tax cut spurred some additional profits, leading to slightly higher taxes paid than had there been no feedback effects.
One caveat to keep in mind: This study is probably most illustrative of the impact of the C-corporation cut on mid-sized firms, since there are few S-corporations large enough to serve as a reliable comparison group to large multinational C-corporations. Additionally, to target the analysis on firms that the authors are confident received a large tax cut, the sample is restricted to companies with at least 50 employees and $1 million in sales per year from 2013 to 2016.
The findings from Kennedy and his co-authors dovetail with analysis of pre-Tax Cuts and Jobs Act tax breaks from Eric Ohrn from Grinnell College. Ohrn finds that executive pay increases by 25 cents for every dollar of tax cuts received. Ohrn also finds that a 1 percentage point decrease in effective tax rates increases the compensation of the five highest-paid executives at affected firms by 4.2 percent, or $611,000 on average. This is very similar to a previous finding from Kennedy’s three co-authors, who, using a different dataset, traced the impact of the same business tax cut to determine that corporate officers received a 4.4 percent increase in compensation for every 1 percentage point decrease in the tax rate, compared to a more modest 1.3 percent raise for nonofficers.
Why do owners and executives capture most of the benefits from business tax breaks? The best explanation is that U.S. labor market inefficiencies prevent workers from being rewarded for their productivity. Low- and moderate-income workers lack the necessary bargaining power to demand their fair share of tax cut proceeds, while executives enjoy undue influence over their compensation, winning raises that are not justified by firm performance.
This is consistent with research on monopsony, in which employers enjoy the market power necessary to keep wages inefficiently low. Indeed, the previous study from Kennedy’s three co-authors finds that smaller firms are more likely to share tax break proceeds with median-wage workers—evidence that market power, proxied here by company size, plays a role.
Additionally, Ohrn finds that firms with large institutional shareholders and shorter executive tenures—examples of strong corporate governance structures—did not increase executive compensation with proceeds from their tax breaks. This implies that companies with less robust checks on corporate governance may be falling prey to “executive capture,” in which CEOs leverage relationships with members of their Boards of Directors to win higher compensation.
This theory is corroborated by other researchers who have looked specifically at Congress’ past attempts to use the tax code to limit executive compensation. Section 162(m) of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, for example, removed the tax deductibility of CEO pay. While a similar provision in the law that applied to nonprofit organizations did appear to reduce CEO salaries, Section 162(m) had little to no effect, according to multiple rigorous studies. This implies that even when policymakers effectively make it more expensive to pay CEOs, executive salaries still rise—proof that these exorbitant pay packages are not the result of rational economic decision-making.
The new findings from Kennedy and his co-authors are important for two main reasons. First, they provide important nuance to an age-old policy question: Who bears the costs or benefits from business tax changes? Historically, researchers have delivered fairly crude, aggregate estimates. The Joint Committee on Taxation assumes, for example, that based on its synthesis of the academic literature a full 100 percent of the cost of tax increases is borne by owners in the short run, and 75 percent is borne by owners in the long run, with workers paying the remaining 25 percent. The committee increases the share borne by owners to 95 percent for tax changes affecting pass-through businesses because they have less ability to move capital or operations abroad to avoid taxes.
In contrast, the Congressional Budget Office allocates 75 percent to capital income and 25 percent to labor income. The U.S. Treasury Department takes a more complicated approach that distinguishes between normal and supernormal returns to capital, but the upshot is an 82 percent-18 percent split between the capital and labor incidence of the corporate tax.
Yet the Joint Committee on Taxation, Congressional Budget Office, and Treasury Department all assume that the benefits or costs to workers from tax changes mirror the distribution of wages more generally. The evidence above belies that assumption, demonstrating that wage increases from tax cuts are even less equally shared than the nation’s already very unequal wage distribution. This means that researchers and policymakers must think more granularly about the heterogeneous effects of tax policy.
Second, the authors’ findings show how taxes interact with other economic phenomena, such as market power. Given the outsized power of employers in the U.S. labor market, corporations may be able to both hoard the proceeds of tax cuts and pass on the cost of tax increases to workers. This asymmetrical situation would leave policymakers in a bind: Reversing tax cuts alone might not be enough to claw back the unjustified gains that shareholders and executives received from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
That’s why researchers and policymakers must think about combating inequality more holistically. Tax policy researchers, for example, should adjust their models’ assumption that labor markets function competitively. And policymakers should consider tax policy changes in concert with other reforms that address inequality in the United States, such as lax corporate governance standards and weak labor and antitrust protections.
*facepalm*

As a typical average worker, how much job creation and investing do you think I engage in???
 
this thread is a perfect example of why we have a crooked ass tax code. its comical how little all of you understand about the most basic concepts.
 
His secretary was sitting right next to him when they both said it. And I would expect the secretary of one of the richest men in the world would make quite a lot.

But it doesn't change the general point anyway.....which is that the marginal tax rate in 2023 for a single person was higher than 20% at about $45K in taxable income. Any single person making more than about $66K a year in taxable income (about $80K before the standard deduction) pays a higher rate than the 20% capital gain rate.

That's just math.
He's probably trying to get laid. Old buzzard.

Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans' tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.Dec 4, 2021
 

Six years later, more evidence shows the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act benefits U.S. business owners and executives, not average workers​

""

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When policymakers were debating the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, many proponents claimed that average U.S. workers would benefit via wage increases. These adherents of trickle-down economic theory argued that, alongside other business tax cuts in the law, slashing the C-corporation tax rate by 14 percentage points, from 35 percent to 21 percent, would reduce these firms’ cost of capital—or how expensive, after tax, it is to invest in new projects. This, proponents said, would spur private investment, which, in turn, would boost workers’ productivity and thus increase wages and job openings.
This highly speculative string of contingencies is a tenet of faith among supply-side economists. Yet the empirical evidence has never been on their side. And now, nearly 6 years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law by former President Donald Trump, a new study further reinforces that these business tax cuts benefit highly paid executives, not the vast majority of U.S. workers.
Indeed, the paper—by Patrick Kennedy, Paul Landefeld, and Jacob Mortenson, all of the U.S. Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation, and Christine Dobridge of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors—finds that almost all of the benefits of the 2017 law’s signature $1.3 trillion C-corporation tax cut went to high-income shareholders and executives—not low- or moderate-income workers. (This $1.3 trillion figure refers to the 10-year cost estimate specifically for the C-corporation rate cut provision, provided by the Joint Committee on Taxation before the bill was passed.)
Using anonymized tax records and sophisticated methods, the four co-authors find that workers below the 90th percentile in their firm’s earnings distribution did not receive any wage boost from the C-corporation tax cut. (See Figure 1.)
Figure 1

Only already very well-paid workers saw a wage increase from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017’s C-corporation tax cut​

Change in annual earnings for U.S. workers at various within-firm income positions between those working at C-corporations and those working at similarly situated S-corporations
Firm Wage Centile

NOTES: Unit of analysis is firm year. The bottom 20 percent of the distribution is excluded because the presence of part-time workers makes the estimate imprecise. Standard errors are clustered by firm and error bands show 95 percent confidence intervals.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf.​

To reach these conclusions, Kennedy and his co-authors compare C-corporations—the legal structure used by U.S. firms, including all public companies, seeking large amounts of outside investment—with similarly situated S-corporations, which raise money from a limited number of shareholders and are treated as a pass-through entity by the U.S. tax code. S-corporations’ profits are not taxed at the firm level but instead flow to owners and are taxed at the individual level. C-corporations received a larger tax cut in 2017 than S-corporations did, a difference the authors exploit for their analysis.
Kennedy and his co-authors conclude that 49 percent of the gains from the C-corporation cut went to the owners of firms, while 11 percent went to firm executives (the top five highest-paid workers at the firm). The other 40 percent went to high-income workers (or those above the 90th percentile within their firm). Precisely zero percent went to low-paid workers (or those below the 90th percentile). This means executives alone pocketed $13.2 billion annually—a pay bump of roughly $50,000 per executive—while median workers received nothing.
In total, 81 percent of the gains from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation rate cut were captured by the top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution, with the top 1 percent seeing a whopping 24 percent of the benefits. (See Figure 2.)
Figure 2

The top 10 percent of the U.S. income distribution captured more than 80 percent of the 2017 corporate tax cut benefits​

Annual change for U.S. workers by job role and income as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act’s C-corporation tax cut
Incidence estimates

NOTE: To compute distributional incidence, gains of firm owners are allocated to workers using data on capital ownership from the Federal Reserve Distributional Financial Accounts.​


NOTE: The top 10 percent of the income distribution does not receive 100 percent of the benefits because some high-income workers, while in the top 10 percent of earners at their firms, are not in the top 10 percent of the country’s total income distribution. Likewise, some low-income workers are also business owners, usually in the form of mutual funds held in retirement accounts.​


SOURCE: Patrick Kennedy and others, “The Efficiency-Equity Tradeoff of the Corporate Income Tax: Evidence from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” Working Paper (2023), available at https://patrick-kennedy.github.io/files/TCJA_KDLM_2023.pdf

The paper does not address other types of inequality, but those at the top of the U.S. earnings distribution are disproportionately White or Asian, so it is likely that the distributional impacts on display in this study represent an exacerbation of racial income gaps in the United States.
Further, the four co-authors find that the C-corporation rate cut delivered $122 billion in additional private income per year—but to achieve that modest output gain, the federal government spent $86 billion in foregone revenue. It’s important to note that this figure is lower than what the Joint Committee on Taxation and other scorers have estimated because this paper’s authors find that the tax cut spurred some additional profits, leading to slightly higher taxes paid than had there been no feedback effects.
One caveat to keep in mind: This study is probably most illustrative of the impact of the C-corporation cut on mid-sized firms, since there are few S-corporations large enough to serve as a reliable comparison group to large multinational C-corporations. Additionally, to target the analysis on firms that the authors are confident received a large tax cut, the sample is restricted to companies with at least 50 employees and $1 million in sales per year from 2013 to 2016.
The findings from Kennedy and his co-authors dovetail with analysis of pre-Tax Cuts and Jobs Act tax breaks from Eric Ohrn from Grinnell College. Ohrn finds that executive pay increases by 25 cents for every dollar of tax cuts received. Ohrn also finds that a 1 percentage point decrease in effective tax rates increases the compensation of the five highest-paid executives at affected firms by 4.2 percent, or $611,000 on average. This is very similar to a previous finding from Kennedy’s three co-authors, who, using a different dataset, traced the impact of the same business tax cut to determine that corporate officers received a 4.4 percent increase in compensation for every 1 percentage point decrease in the tax rate, compared to a more modest 1.3 percent raise for nonofficers.
Why do owners and executives capture most of the benefits from business tax breaks? The best explanation is that U.S. labor market inefficiencies prevent workers from being rewarded for their productivity. Low- and moderate-income workers lack the necessary bargaining power to demand their fair share of tax cut proceeds, while executives enjoy undue influence over their compensation, winning raises that are not justified by firm performance.
This is consistent with research on monopsony, in which employers enjoy the market power necessary to keep wages inefficiently low. Indeed, the previous study from Kennedy’s three co-authors finds that smaller firms are more likely to share tax break proceeds with median-wage workers—evidence that market power, proxied here by company size, plays a role.
Additionally, Ohrn finds that firms with large institutional shareholders and shorter executive tenures—examples of strong corporate governance structures—did not increase executive compensation with proceeds from their tax breaks. This implies that companies with less robust checks on corporate governance may be falling prey to “executive capture,” in which CEOs leverage relationships with members of their Boards of Directors to win higher compensation.
This theory is corroborated by other researchers who have looked specifically at Congress’ past attempts to use the tax code to limit executive compensation. Section 162(m) of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, for example, removed the tax deductibility of CEO pay. While a similar provision in the law that applied to nonprofit organizations did appear to reduce CEO salaries, Section 162(m) had little to no effect, according to multiple rigorous studies. This implies that even when policymakers effectively make it more expensive to pay CEOs, executive salaries still rise—proof that these exorbitant pay packages are not the result of rational economic decision-making.
The new findings from Kennedy and his co-authors are important for two main reasons. First, they provide important nuance to an age-old policy question: Who bears the costs or benefits from business tax changes? Historically, researchers have delivered fairly crude, aggregate estimates. The Joint Committee on Taxation assumes, for example, that based on its synthesis of the academic literature a full 100 percent of the cost of tax increases is borne by owners in the short run, and 75 percent is borne by owners in the long run, with workers paying the remaining 25 percent. The committee increases the share borne by owners to 95 percent for tax changes affecting pass-through businesses because they have less ability to move capital or operations abroad to avoid taxes.
In contrast, the Congressional Budget Office allocates 75 percent to capital income and 25 percent to labor income. The U.S. Treasury Department takes a more complicated approach that distinguishes between normal and supernormal returns to capital, but the upshot is an 82 percent-18 percent split between the capital and labor incidence of the corporate tax.
Yet the Joint Committee on Taxation, Congressional Budget Office, and Treasury Department all assume that the benefits or costs to workers from tax changes mirror the distribution of wages more generally. The evidence above belies that assumption, demonstrating that wage increases from tax cuts are even less equally shared than the nation’s already very unequal wage distribution. This means that researchers and policymakers must think more granularly about the heterogeneous effects of tax policy.
Second, the authors’ findings show how taxes interact with other economic phenomena, such as market power. Given the outsized power of employers in the U.S. labor market, corporations may be able to both hoard the proceeds of tax cuts and pass on the cost of tax increases to workers. This asymmetrical situation would leave policymakers in a bind: Reversing tax cuts alone might not be enough to claw back the unjustified gains that shareholders and executives received from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
That’s why researchers and policymakers must think about combating inequality more holistically. Tax policy researchers, for example, should adjust their models’ assumption that labor markets function competitively. And policymakers should consider tax policy changes in concert with other reforms that address inequality in the United States, such as lax corporate governance standards and weak labor and antitrust protections.
TL; DNR 😂

IRS Data: Middle Class Americans Saw Significant Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts​


As the data notes, Americans with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 saw a substantial decline in their tax liability:

  • Americans with adjusted gross income (AGI) between $50,000 and $74,999 saw a 15.2 percent reduction in average tax liabilities between 2017 and 2019.
  • Americans with AGI of between $75,000 and $99,999 saw a 15.6 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2019.

 
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TL; DNR 😂

IRS Data: Middle Class Americans Saw Significant Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts​


As the data notes, Americans with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 saw a substantial decline in their tax liability:

  • Americans with adjusted gross income (AGI) between $50,000 and $74,999 saw a 15.2 percent reduction in average tax liabilities between 2017 and 2019.
  • Americans with AGI of between $75,000 and $99,999 saw a 15.6 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2019.

populist tax cut, 70% that didnt pay taxes got a cut, comical. More stimi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lts borrow and not pay it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! forgive student loand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! free housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you stimi loving commies are killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Their voters do not PAY taxes...they are subsidized by US paying taxes
trump cut taxes on 70+% of the population, over 50% paid no income taxes. this is almost as good as george bush's earned income tax credit... you stimi loving commies kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pay your freaking bills you bums.
 
trump cut taxes on 70+% of the population, over 50% paid no income taxes. this is almost as good as george bush's earned income tax credit... you stimi loving commies kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pay your freaking bills you bums.
47% didn't pay income taxes during Obamy's term. MDFmissy forgot about Romney's famous quote in 2012. 😂 😂 😂

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The tax cuts Trump put in place are still in effect.

I’ll say it again, if you want the gov’t to have more of your money, vote for Biden.

Thanks for confirming that my bonus was taxed the same under Biden and Trump. I hope the people that didn't like that comment admit that I was correct like you did.
 
Thanks for confirming that my bonus was taxed the same under Biden and Trump. I hope the people that didn't like that comment admit that I was correct like you did.
Yes, but if Biden wins he’s promising to tax it more.

Don’t bury the lede.
 
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