joey wants a 44+% capital gains tax

[Capt Ron 1]

The real Trajedy of Donald Trump is not that he is worse than the democrats when it comes to the deficit (although he was worse than most of them by far)......its that he replaces the people who USED to try and control the deficit. Nikki Halley talked about it at often, Trump almost never does. Now we are just like Lemmings walked towards the cliff. We hear all the time about the minutia of the economy, gas prices, mild inflation, etc........and we ignore the element that can take us all under.

Daily total national debt from 2009 to present.

I am confused...you are a DEMOCRAT..and pretending the deficit matters all of a sudden? Me confused......ESPECIALLY cannot let your sentence in the post above go unnoticed either....."Ya, lets pretend Covid is the reason Trump ran big deficits. Now Covid certainly did increase the deficit....." What the F?????? LOLOLOL Please RE READ your posts....you contradict yourself often trying to cover for America's #1 enemy...DEMORATS.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

DNR, TL, and please copy and paste your drivel in a NORMAL font. It seems that you are hiding drivel in the small print on the back of a crooked contract. Trump cut taxes for the middle class. Never has such a bold move been pushed through Congress. He also punished voters of blue states for their reckless assed spending by increasing the standard deductions while eliminating excessive tax loopholes by capping real estate taxes and interest on overblown mortgages. Pure gold Jerry! Pure gold! Trump did NOT give foreign countries HUGE sums like what has been going to Ukraine and other shithole countries like Obama did for gender studies. Trump asked for a measly 25 billion to protect our borders. Biden has given others over 200 billion while ignoring our own, How about a big cup of STFU?

KABOOOOOOOM!!!! POTD!

 

[NavigatorII]

Compare Trump budget deficit results to Bill Clintons if you want a laugh. Both had booming economies.

Let's compare Obamy's to Trumps. Laughable. 😂 Newt Gringrich had Slick Willie bent over in pretzels and was his dominatrix. It's the ONLY reason there was any fiscal responsibility. The Skankipotimus tried to get involved and Slick sent her upstairs to bed without any supper......while he was banging hoes downstairs, mind you.😂

 

[fatman76]

The real Trajedy of Donald Trump is not that he is worse than the democrats when it comes to the deficit (although he was worse than most of them by far)......its that he replaces the people who USED to try and control the deficit. Nikki Halley talked about it at often, Trump almost never does. Now we are just like Lemmings walked towards the cliff. We hear all the time about the minutia of the economy, gas prices, mild inflation, etc........and we ignore the element that can take us all under.

Daily total national debt from 2009 to present.

The “present”?

You conveniently left out the Biden years.

 

[fatman76]

DNR, TL, and please copy and paste your drivel in a NORMAL font. It seems that you are hiding drivel in the small print on the back of a crooked contract. Trump cut taxes for the middle class. Never has such a bold move been pushed through Congress. He also punished voters of blue states for their reckless assed spending by increasing the standard deductions while eliminating excessive tax loopholes by capping real estate taxes and interest on overblown mortgages. Pure gold Jerry! Pure gold! Trump did NOT give foreign countries HUGE sums like what has been going to Ukraine and other shithole countries like Obama did for gender studies. Trump asked for a measly 25 billion to protect our borders. Biden has given others over 200 billion while ignoring our own, How about a big cup of STFU?

You just need to do a small amount of research with liberals. They never fact check anything.

Trump never reduced the income to the treasury until Covid hit. Biden did while he was creating the “massive recovery”. Meanwhile the economy was extremely strong.

All spending starts in the House. The President sets some tax policies but we have a spending problem, not an income problem.

 

[Illegal-shift]

Table below shows percent change by president over their terms. Note HW Bush and Trump have only one term here, so to compare apples to apples you would need to double their numbers.....putting them both above Obama. And before you say Coved again, remember Obama had to deal with 2008 crisis and the fact that we had an economy that almost fell of a cliff. And he head to deal with that from the beginning of his term.

Biden is only a partial term, so he should be ignored on this table.

I really liked Ronald Reagan, but supply side economics didn't work when it comes to the budget.

President	Total change	Percent change
Franklin D. Roosevelt	$178,464,714,660.98	791.80%
Woodrow Wilson	$23,036,251,492.50	789.90%
Ronald Reagan	$1,604,482,712,041.16	160.80%
George W. Bush	$4,217,261,484,712.34	72.60%
Barack Obama	$7,663,615,710,425.00	64.40%
George H. W. Bush	$1,207,189,695,334.34	42.30%
Richard Nixon	$121,339,561,890.14	34.30%
Donald Trump	$6,700,491,178,561.60	33.10%
Jimmy Carter	$208,861,000,000.00	29.90%
Bill Clinton	$1,262,689,326,747.48	28.60%
Theodore Roosevelt	$483,479,337.65	22.60%
Gerald Ford	$87,244,000,000.00	16.40%
Herbert Hoover	$2,555,913,960.03	15.10%
Lyndon B. Johnson	$35,865,507,168.58	11.50%
Joe Biden	$2,499,993,043,258.10	8.80%
William Howard Taft	$228,827,633.12	8.70%

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Table below shows percent change by president over their terms. Note HW Bush and Trump have only one term here, so to compare apples to apples you would need to double their numbers.....putting them both above Obama. And before you say Coved again, remember Obama had to deal with 2008 crisis and the fact that we had an economy that almost fell of a cliff. And he head to deal with that from the beginning of his term.

Biden is only a partial term, so he should be ignored on this table.

I really liked Ronald Reagan, but supply side economics didn't work when it comes to the budget.

President	Total change	Percent change
Franklin D. Roosevelt	$178,464,714,660.98	791.80%
Woodrow Wilson	$23,036,251,492.50	789.90%
Ronald Reagan	$1,604,482,712,041.16	160.80%
George W. Bush	$4,217,261,484,712.34	72.60%
Barack Obama	$7,663,615,710,425.00	64.40%
George H. W. Bush	$1,207,189,695,334.34	42.30%
Richard Nixon	$121,339,561,890.14	34.30%
Donald Trump	$6,700,491,178,561.60	33.10%
Jimmy Carter	$208,861,000,000.00	29.90%
Bill Clinton	$1,262,689,326,747.48	28.60%
Theodore Roosevelt	$483,479,337.65	22.60%
Gerald Ford	$87,244,000,000.00	16.40%
Herbert Hoover	$2,555,913,960.03	15.10%
		0
Lyndon B. Johnson	$35,865,507,168.58	11.50%
Joe Biden	$2,499,993,043,258.10	8.80%
William Howard Taft	$228,827,633.12	8.70%

You are either just young...or you have NO CLUE as to what you are talking about. I was alive during /reagn, and unless you are just void of what happened..you are lying here. Let me explain EXACTLY what happened to you, so that you do not go around so uninformed. Reagan BEGGED for a line item veto, because the left(your people) let our military disintegrate after Vietnam, and to BEAT the Soviets...we HAD to build up(Peace through strength) In doing so...DEMOCRATS attached welfare spending deals to every bill or they refused to support it. So blaming Reagan for your side destroying our military( could not even successfully getr TO Iran to rescue our hostages) YOUR side ran the deficit up...not Reagan. YOUR side flirted with the eventual downfall of the USSR so you could pay off your lazy voters. THIS IS EXACTLY what happened. So either post less until you understand some things(preffered method) or be laughed at for being as dunce about American history. (BTW..you are welcome for the free education from a HS grad!)

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Table below shows percent change by president over their terms. Note HW Bush and Trump have only one term here, so to compare apples to apples you would need to double their numbers.....putting them both above Obama. And before you say Coved again, remember Obama had to deal with 2008 crisis and the fact that we had an economy that almost fell of a cliff. And he head to deal with that from the beginning of his term.

Biden is only a partial term, so he should be ignored on this table.

I really liked Ronald Reagan, but supply side economics didn't work when it comes to the budget.

President	Total change	Percent change
Franklin D. Roosevelt	$178,464,714,660.98	791.80%
Woodrow Wilson	$23,036,251,492.50	789.90%
Ronald Reagan	$1,604,482,712,041.16	160.80%
George W. Bush	$4,217,261,484,712.34	72.60%
Barack Obama	$7,663,615,710,425.00	64.40%
George H. W. Bush	$1,207,189,695,334.34	42.30%
Richard Nixon	$121,339,561,890.14	34.30%
Donald Trump	$6,700,491,178,561.60	33.10%
Jimmy Carter	$208,861,000,000.00	29.90%
Bill Clinton	$1,262,689,326,747.48	28.60%
Theodore Roosevelt	$483,479,337.65	22.60%
Gerald Ford	$87,244,000,000.00	16.40%
Herbert Hoover	$2,555,913,960.03	15.10%
Lyndon B. Johnson	$35,865,507,168.58	11.50%
Joe Biden	$2,499,993,043,258.10	8.80%
William Howard Taft	$228,827,633.12	8.70%

I mean..if THIS is what you learn in school...I am SO happy I did not waste my money! Cutting and pasting total BS does not seem like a good value for your education..but that's really none of my business......

 

[Mdfgator]

Yes it does.

Obama taxed your bonuses at a higher rate than Trump. Biden is currently taxing your bonuses at the same rate as Trump, but he would very much like to change that.

my taxes are higher now than when big o was in office and they were bananas then.

 

[Mdfgator]

Compare Trump budget deficit results to Bill Clintons if you want a laugh. Both had booming economies.

compare trumps to anyones, there is no comparison other than the current shit show, which of course, is a continuation of trumps borow and spend ways.

 

[NavigatorII]

my taxes are higher now than when big o was in office and they were bananas then.

Well duh. We lived through the Obama Depression. And now, Bidenflation. If you don't make more now than then, you are at poverty level now. Well, you probably are. You lost your gold membership, so there's that. 😂

 

[Mdfgator]

Well duh. We lived through the Obama Depression. And now, Bidenflation. If you don't make more now than then, you are at poverty level now. Well, you probably are. You lost your gold membership, so there's that. 😂

trump raised taxes on the people that paid the lion share of income taxes, he then cut taxes on people that dont pay income taxes, he increased dramatically the issues with the tax code. the most insanely fiscally liberal prez we have ever seen. nobody is even close.

 

[LordofallSocks]

Dubya fought a 2 theater global war on terror an( still came in at less than half of Reagan.

 

[fatman76]

Table below shows percent change by president over their terms. Note HW Bush and Trump have only one term here, so to compare apples to apples you would need to double their numbers.....putting them both above Obama. And before you say Coved again, remember Obama had to deal with 2008 crisis and the fact that we had an economy that almost fell of a cliff. And he head to deal with that from the beginning of his term.

Biden is only a partial term, so he should be ignored on this table.

I really liked Ronald Reagan, but supply side economics didn't work when it comes to the budget.

President	Total change	Percent change
Franklin D. Roosevelt	$178,464,714,660.98	791.80%
Woodrow Wilson	$23,036,251,492.50	789.90%
Ronald Reagan	$1,604,482,712,041.16	160.80%
George W. Bush	$4,217,261,484,712.34	72.60%
Barack Obama	$7,663,615,710,425.00	64.40%
George H. W. Bush	$1,207,189,695,334.34	42.30%
Richard Nixon	$121,339,561,890.14	34.30%
Donald Trump	$6,700,491,178,561.60	33.10%
Jimmy Carter	$208,861,000,000.00	29.90%
Bill Clinton	$1,262,689,326,747.48	28.60%
Theodore Roosevelt	$483,479,337.65	22.60%
Gerald Ford	$87,244,000,000.00	16.40%
Herbert Hoover	$2,555,913,960.03	15.10%
Lyndon B. Johnson	$35,865,507,168.58	11.50%
Joe Biden	$2,499,993,043,258.10	8.80%
William Howard Taft	$228,827,633.12	8.70%

I don't know where you got this list but it's completely wrong.

When Biden entered office the debt was $26T.

As of today it's $34.6T.

That's $8.6T in 3-1/2 years, more than Trump's entire presidency including the Covid bailout hit. On an absolute value basis Biden has increased the debt more than any other president in history by a mile.

How stupid do you think we are? You think we're not able to research basic facts?

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt is the total of what the federal government owes creditors. The U.S. has always carried debt, but the total has expanded rapidly since 2008.

www.investopedia.com

Our Debt Clock

www.truthinaccounting.org

 

[fatman76]

I mean..if THIS is what you learn in school...I am SO happy I did not waste my money! Cutting and pasting total BS does not seem like a good value for your education..but that's really none of my business......

Well I did go to college, and while it may have been a waste of money I'm certainly smart enough to call complete BS when I see it.

 

[jb1215]

DNR, TL, and please copy and paste your drivel in a NORMAL font. It seems that you are hiding drivel in the small print on the back of a crooked contract. Trump cut taxes for the middle class. Never has such a bold move been pushed through Congress. He also punished voters of blue states for their reckless assed spending by increasing the standard deductions while eliminating excessive tax loopholes by capping real estate taxes and interest on overblown mortgages. Pure gold Jerry! Pure gold! Trump did NOT give foreign countries HUGE sums like what has been going to Ukraine and other shithole countries like Obama did for gender studies. Trump asked for a measly 25 billion to protect our borders. Biden has given others over 200 billion while ignoring our own, How about a big cup of STFU?

Navi dropping:

Love the response, unfortunately it will never be understood by those who continually lie to themselves to support their belief system.

 

[BCSpell]

You are either just young...or you have NO CLUE as to what you are talking about. I was alive during /reagn, and unless you are just void of what happened..you are lying here. Let me explain EXACTLY what happened to you, so that you do not go around so uninformed. Reagan BEGGED for a line item veto, because the left(your people) let our military disintegrate after Vietnam, and to BEAT the Soviets...we HAD to build up(Peace through strength) In doing so...DEMOCRATS attached welfare spending deals to every bill or they refused to support it. So blaming Reagan for your side destroying our military( could not even successfully getr TO Iran to rescue our hostages) YOUR side ran the deficit up...not Reagan. YOUR side flirted with the eventual downfall of the USSR so you could pay off your lazy voters. THIS IS EXACTLY what happened. So either post less until you understand some things(preffered method) or be laughed at for being as dunce about American history. (BTW..you are welcome for the free education from a HS grad!)

Polesi did the same thing to Trump. No spending bill could be passed with out adding 100s of billions for DEM pork. Look at Trump's covid bill, about 70% was DEM Pork or no $ to help the Country, the people, the small businesses.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Well I did go to college, and while it may have been a waste of money I'm certainly smart enough to call complete BS when I see it.

Not everyone wastes their college..or their life. However for some to spend the money they did and still be dumber than a red brick...they DID waste their time and money.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Polesi did the same thing to Trump. No spending bill could be passed with out adding 100s of billions for DEM pork. Look at Trump's covid bill, about 70% was DEM Pork or no $ to help the Country, the people, the small businesses.

Its what they do!

 

[FresnoGator]

Well I did go to college, and while it may have been a waste of money I'm certainly smart enough to call complete BS when I see it.

My college experience was exceptional, and I consider it to be anything but a waste of money - in the mid 80s. It cost me $480 a semester for tuition. Of course, I knew what I wanted when I went into it. I jumped through all of the appropriate hoops to be able to get into dental school in order to be able to set myself up for a career and for life. I also had a great time doing it and did not get cheated in the fun dept in college after transferring to University of Florida. It was the greatest two years ever, however, it was also the means to an end.

That said I vote with my pocketbook and I don't care about peripheral issues today known as social issues. So screw Biden and his anti-American crap ...

 

[Mdfgator]

My college experience was exceptional, and I consider it to be anything but a waste of money - in the mid 80s. It cost me $480 a semester for tuition. Of course, I knew what I wanted when I went into it. I jumped through all of the appropriate hoops to be able to get into dental school in order to be able to set myself up for a career and for life. I also had a great time doing it and did not get cheated in the fun dept in college after transferring to University of Florida. It was the greatest two years ever, however, it was also the means to an end.

That said I vote with my pocketbook and I don't care about peripheral issues today known as social issues. So screw Biden and his anti-American crap ...

Do you think the rise in the cost of college housing and other fundamentals of the American dream is fair to the young people of today??

 

[NavigatorII]

Do you think the rise in the cost of college housing and other fundamentals of the American dream is fair to the young people of today??

It's YOUR burden to put that yoke around your neck, being the masochist that you are, you'll enjoy it. NOT OUR PROBLEM. Jane you ignorant slut, if you didn't spend your entire day trolling, you could take care of this with your gold membership money.

 

[FresnoGator]

Do you think the rise in the cost of college housing and other fundamentals of the American dream is fair to the young people of today??

I lived in an apartment off-campus at University of Florida and I considered the expense at the time to be the cost of doing business much like I would consider any college housing today.

I would love to see well heeled colleges, and universities dipping into their dick measuring endowments and providing financial relief for students in need ...

 

[jb1215]

Do you think the rise in the cost of college housing and other fundamentals of the American dream is fair to the young people of today??

No, and the geometric rate at which college costs have increased are due to liberal policies and governance. So blame yourself and the stooges you vote for. Academia is controlled by pencil necked, pointy headed, entitled, snowflake clowns that have no idea what reality is.

 

[FresnoGator]

No, and the geometric rate at which college costs have increased are due to liberal policies and governance. So blame yourself and the stooges you vote for. Academia is controlled by pencil necked, pointy headed, entitled, snowflake clowns that have no idea what reality is.

And maybe colleges like Harvard should not pay Pocahontas 400k to teach some bs class. That might help bring costs down ...

 

[fatman76]

My college experience was exceptional, and I consider it to be anything but a waste of money - in the mid 80s. It cost me $480 a semester for tuition. Of course, I knew what I wanted when I went into it. I jumped through all of the appropriate hoops to be able to get into dental school in order to be able to set myself up for a career and for life. I also had a great time doing it and did not get cheated in the fun dept in college after transferring to University of Florida. It was the greatest two years ever, however, it was also the means to an end.

That said I vote with my pocketbook and I don't care about peripheral issues today known as social issues. So screw Biden and his anti-American crap ...

My entire MBA was less than one semester for my oldest son.

College is a crap value.

And agreed on fiscal issues - but the growth of the deep state and the weaponization of three letter agencies worries me a to as well.

 

[Mdfgator]

I lived in an apartment off-campus at University of Florida and I considered the expense at the time to be the cost of doing business much like I would consider any college housing today.

I would love to see well heeled colleges, and universities dipping into their dick measuring endowments and providing financial relief for students in need ...

yes, i am not saying the costs have not gone up due to government meddling, all costs go up more than incomes due to government meddling. The reality is, especially after 2020, the cost of the american dream and all its benefits has gone so far out of whack with wages, there is reason to be angry. we are turning our young kids into serfs. buying a stock now isnt gong to produce the rewards it did when you and i entered the work force, same with a house, college, its all out of whack. We are all killing it, but at the expense of who??