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Oh my, you are right. Totally forgot, I mean I have forgotten a lot of things over the past 40 years....
Fine by me. Since the Jax game brings in more money than both teams make on a home game combined we would be happy to just keep our share and you lose yours.
I'm going to run some numbers, they are tweaked for ease of understanding, but Dawgnation posted that the teams make 1.5 million more over a two year period than the schools would make in a two-year home-and-home, and that's the key. I don't hold out much hope that the fleas will understand what I am posting, but at least the Gators will.
Home game: Home school makes $5M, visitor nothing.
Neutral site game: Game raises 6.5M so each school makes $3.25M each year. (1/2 home game +half of 1.5 million extra)
Scenario 1: Two years in Jax
Year 1: UGa 3.25M UF 3.25M
Year 2: UGa 3.25M UF 3.25M
Total: UGa 6.5M UF 6.5M
Scenario 2: Home and Home
Year 1: UGa $5M UF $0
Year 2: UGa $0 UF $5M
Total: UGa $5M UF $5M
See how each school gets $1.5M less over a 2 year period? Ok, stay with me now:
Scenario 3: UGa home, UF Jax
Year 1: UGa $5M UF $0
Year 2: UGa $0 UF $6.5M
Total: UGa $5M UF $6.5M
Is one extra recruiting weekend worth that?
What's funny here is we get a lot of talk from the football people, and no talk from the money people. But it's the money people who make the decisions. I promise you, the minute home and home games are worth more than the Jax game, the move will be made. But not sooner.
https://www.dawgnation.com/football...art-poll-recruiting-disadvantage-championship
So, Kirby has been lights out recruiting loads of 5 star players, but wants a home and home series because the game in Jax is hurting his recruiting? Uh, okay.
Because it’s not about the money just like it isn’t about some recruiting disadvantage. It’s about them getting their ass whooped in Jax and convincing themselves UF has an advantage with the game being played there. Like I said no UGA fan had an issue with the location until the tide started turning then all of a sudden you heard support for having the game moved. They’re the ones who chose the damn location to begin with.
I’m not so sure the economics are the same with Scenario 3. With it being a UF home game, you aren’t giving Georgia half the seats, therefore we aren’t flocking down there in nearly the numbers we do now. I do agree all in all there’s a loss of revenue, but $750K in a year isn’t that much for either of us.
If it’s about recruiting why not petition to have both teams be allowed to have official visitors to the game like OU-Texas? It’s one of like three neutral site games. That wouldn’t be a huge selling point? So Smart is willing to lose money and a home game every other year in the name of recruiting? Not even you believe that bs.
Ron Zook was able to sell this rivalry to high school kids. If Georgia fans want to blame someone for the game in Jax not being a "selling point" to recruits, then blame Georgia's own Will MusDUMP. He told his players and the press that it's just another game.
But he’s not losing a game, he’s gaining one in Athens. If you are saying Jax is like a home game for both in that we both can host recruits, ok. But I disagree with that. How much time could actually be spent by either staff on a game day in that setting that feels more like an away game than a home game in almost every way? Traditions begin, and they end. I’m ok with this one ending no matter the reason.
He's losing a home game every other year. At best you can argue the outcome is neutral. So if it's about recruiting that doesn't make any sense. If they allowed both teams to host official visitors in Jax they're not losing anything and actually getting an extra game to host recruits on.
And why would this game be any different as far how much time either staff can spend with a recruit on gameday? In both instances they're being treated as a home game, the preparation for either one isn't changing. The recruiting angle is BS. And we know it's not money because both teams lose money over a 2-year period with a H-A-H. So what's the real reason?
I don't. I think he means it. Just because he's very likely not in on the budget meetings and so isn't thinking about that aspect.
Oh, when we hear noise from "unnamed UGa sources" or "UGa administrative staff" then yeah, it's a ploy to bring in more dollars. UGa does it every time the contract is up. I'm not going to throw shade about this. UF lets UGa do it, and reaps the benefit, but if UGa wasn't doing it, UF would.
So you don’t think it’s easier to host a kid for a recruiting weekend in Athens as opposed to Jax? I don’t think the recruiting angle is complete BS. Kirby just had the administration invest in a state of the art recruiting lounge so I’m sure he’d like to get his money’s worth. Personally, I never want the game to leave the area.
That said, they’re not serious about moving it. Just trying to negotiate more money. After all, Kirby has now nicknamed Jacksonville, FL...Jacksonville, GA
Yeah Kirby is dominant in the Jacksonville game. He’s an incredible 1-2 as a coach. Amazing. What was his record as a player? He’s been so successful both as a player and coach in Jacksonville. LOLSo you don’t think it’s easier to host a kid for a recruiting weekend in Athens as opposed to Jax? I don’t think the recruiting angle is complete BS. Kirby just had the administration invest in a state of the art recruiting lounge so I’m sure he’d like to get his money’s worth. Personally, I never want the game to leave the area.
That said, they’re not serious about moving it. Just trying to negotiate more money. After all, Kirby has now nicknamed Jacksonville, FL...Jacksonville, GA
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Gwinnie you got PECKERS on your mind? Do you not have a life?
Sing along everyone.
Gwinnie Dawg is a fool,
He tries to act like he’s so cool,
He has Gator envy on this site,
He posts here morning, Noon and NIGHT!
But, I guess he posts here because of his life,
He has nobody, no boyfriend or even a wife,
But, he and the other Dawgs on here have one common thread,
The only excitement they get is alone in bed!
BADA BING.....
Dear God, we have had enough of this lyric nonsense.
When you do home-away, the away team has travel expenses and does not receive 3+ million that year. If the game stays in Jax, each team receives a huge pay-out every year. Any athletic director knows that it is better that the Florida-Georgia game stays in Jax!
If you really want to play somebody, you could always schedule them as a non-conference game.
Dumb idea financially!
Florida would me missing out on a 3+ million dollar payday whenever the game is in Athens.
In Jax, each team receives 3+million every year that the game is played there!
He’s 2-1 as a coach but who’s counting
Going forward I forecast a lot of gator tears.....I do not care in what venue that asskicking takes place. Athens, Gville, Jax ..... doesn't matter. Presently Kirby's got 3 in a row in his sights in Jacksonville. Go Dawgs!
It would be tears of joy, if whipping Georgia ass wasn't something we were so accustomed to. Don't worry, we will adopt a been there, done that attitude, because we have been there, and we have done that.
So you don’t think it’s easier to host a kid for a recruiting weekend in Athens as opposed to Jax? I don’t think the recruiting angle is complete BS. Kirby just had the administration invest in a state of the art recruiting lounge so I’m sure he’d like to get his money’s worth. Personally, I never want the game to leave the area.
That said, they’re not serious about moving it. Just trying to negotiate more money. After all, Kirby has now nicknamed Jacksonville, FL...Jacksonville, GA
He's just confused. Not unusual for him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Georgia
His writing did suck. His column ran in the St Pete times when I was growing up, and I used to read it every week. Him and Dave Barry were the official "humorists" of the Sunday paper. Barry was at least occasionally amusing. Grizzard was bland, occasionally sarcastic, but never funny. Hell, I even read his book "Gettin' it on", a Christmas gift from one of the kids. Also not funny. And not very well written. For someone as prolific a writer as he was, he had a limited vocabulary and no talent for setting a scene.
Yes. See, there is a Jacksonville, Ga. So Shart was just confused as to which Jacksonville he was in.
You should have read Tom Dorsey instead, a former Tampa Tribune writer/editor....
Was Dorsey just as much of a lame dork as Lewis Grizzard? Grizzard was labeled as the whiniest little b**** in Jax after the 1992 Florida-Georgia game, even the Georgia fans were embarrassed by Grizzard's whining.You should have read Tom Dorsey instead, a former Tampa Tribune writer/editor....
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I did not find Grizzard funny at all, and his columns were usually bland and dry. But just my opinion.
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