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Israel is bombing Iran...

What pisses me off about Trump "helping" Israel? Americans dying. Trillions being spent on wars in the middle east.
We've been lobbing missiles and conducting targeted air strikes at Iran since the Reagan administration, guy.

Calm down. Other than tier 1 black ops missions, there haven't even been American boots on the ground, much less death.

You can complain about a war when we actually get in one.
 
Thought the orange man was for peace and wasn’t going to get us in a war… how you boot lickers gonna spin this
Trail, what a little brain you have. This was started back when Biden was in office. When Israel was invaded they had their citizens kidnapped by guys that were sponsored by Iran. Now your guy Biden made this possible for Iran to finance because the left allowed Iran to sell their oil making them billions. Those billions were spent on starting this war. If Biden would have kept the Trump sanctions active from Trump's previous term Iran would have been broke and unable to afford all that has transpired the last 3 years. Biden allowed it to happen due to his horrid policies (really it was the few behind Biden. Biden couldn't tell you the district he lived in). Biden auto pen started it, Trump is just finishing it once and for good.
 
I think the farthest we should go is making sure that nuke facility is taken out if Israel cant get the job done hitting it multiple times with consecutive strikes of their strongest bunker buster bombs. That is unless they do a major attack on us. Even then keep it to air stuff.
This WILL happen. The two choices are Israel goes in on the ground...or we bomb it. What will NOT work is doing neither. That would be insane, and need someone with low IQ like a certain very slow mentally person posting in this thread. I will not mention any names of which one that is. He knows who he is
 
Just like you were probably all anti escalation in Ukraine, which actually was much more in the US’ interest, Europe buys its LNG from us now instead of Russia, but now you’re mindlessly lining up to attack Iran even though there’s no upside to the US, all because Trump tweeted it out last weekend after literally campaigning against Middle East wars for 20 years.

Face it ghost, all you do is repost Trump’s latest tweet. You’re not even necessary to the conversation.
My God you are a PERFECT lefty.....have NO CLUE about world events. Do me a favor...leave men work to MEN, son. Your side can be in charge od "man" bun styles. Stay in your lane. Defending America is WAY, WAY out of your lane.
 
Trail, what a little brain you have. This was started back when Biden was in office. When Israel was invaded they had their citizens kidnapped by guys that were sponsored by Iran. Now your guy Biden made this possible for Iran to finance because the left allowed Iran to sell their oil making them billions. Those billions were spent on starting this war. If Biden would have kept the Trump sanctions active from Trump's previous term Iran would have been broke and unable to afford all that has transpired the last 3 years. Biden allowed it to happen due to his horrid policies (really it was the few behind Biden. Biden couldn't tell you the district he lived in). Biden auto pen started it, Trump is just finishing it once and for good.
You could have ended it right here, because he CANNOT understand the rest.
 
LOL Im confused...the libs loved it when we gave support to Ukraine, yet when we do the same for Israel, it's the end of Western Civilization?

Again, they are either pissed that some terrorists could die, or they are pissed that some Jews may live. Not sure which one is pissin them off more, but there's some meltdowns happening ITT lol
Have you noticed the disparity in live war footage of this conflict vs Russia/Ukraine?

Weird. I guess it's just a random coincidence.
 


lol. Here’s Tucker cooking up Sen Cruz for just wanting to bomb and not wanting to be bothered with the details. You people support these guys? Interesting.
So I saw a clip from this interview. In the clip I saw, Tucker lied his ass off. First, he asked Cruz what the current population of Iran was, and Cruz didn't know. They go back and forth, then Tucker claims 'you don't know anything about Iran'.

Then Cruz mentions the US is supporting Israel. Tucker says just a minute, you are breaking news here. Because the Trump admin just stated tonight that the US is NOT leading any attacks on Iran. Which is completely different from what Cruz stated.

This was a classic clickbait interview and you fell for it. I'm stunned.
 
Have you noticed the disparity in live war footage of this conflict vs Russia/Ukraine?

Weird. I guess it's just a random coincidence.
Bradly admitted that the Ukraine war was more of our responsibility than this conflict. What kind of ignorance is that? We are faced with the decision that we either help Israel END Irans nuclear program, or let them develop it. I know what my choice is.
 
Just like you were probably all anti escalation in Ukraine, which actually was much more in the US’ interest, Europe buys its LNG from us now instead of Russia, but now you’re mindlessly lining up to attack Iran even though there’s no upside to the US, all because Trump tweeted it out last weekend after literally campaigning against Middle East wars for 20 years.

Face it ghost, all you do is repost Trump’s latest tweet. You’re not even necessary to the conversation.
The upside to the US of Iran not having nukes is the existence of our only ally in the Middle East, the threat of widespread a nuclear war (Israel has nukes), and the existence of half of all Jews in the world.

Is that not enough "upside" for you to send munitions and support?

But increased energy exports are totally worth people dying in an endless war? Who's the warmonger again?
 
What is Cruz actually "doing"?

You say he's "doing as he's told" - what is he doing?
Getting strong 'tariffs' vibes from @bradleygator again. Seems he is once again mad at Trump cause he read something on Twitter where someone said what Trump COULD or MAY or MIGHT do.

Hell the @SailsMane guy believes that Trump has already sent ground troops to the region, that troops have died, and we've spent trillions on the effort so far.

It's quite easy to manipulate a weak thinker, especially if you tell them the lie they want to believe.
 
Bradly admitted that the Ukraine war was more of our responsibility than this conflict. What kind of ignorance is that? We are faced with the decision that we either help Israel END Irans nuclear program, or let them develop it. I know what my choice is.
Apparently Bradley is totally fine with endless death and destruction if we get to sell a little more LNG to Europe.

But the Jews can get wiped off the face of the earth before we should send a single missile.
 
Trump said for people to evacuate Tehran and it caused absolute chaos on the roads. Iran is shooting single missiles but more frequently and warning in order to maximize terror, chaos and panic. There is not a humanitarian bone in their 12ver Shia cult loving mind.
Of course not. They will bomb nurseries and schools just to shed Jewish blood.
 
Getting strong 'tariffs' vibes from @bradleygator again. Seems he is once again mad at Trump cause he read something on Twitter where someone said what Trump COULD or MAY or MIGHT do.

Hell the @SailsMane guy believes that Trump has already sent ground troops to the region, that troops have died, and we've spent trillions on the effort so far.

It's quite easy to manipulate a weak thinker, especially if you tell them the lie they want to believe.
They are attracted to shinny objects.
 
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I mean you tell me how you reconcile this with what’s going on currently. “Oh it’s because Iran really really has wmds, they promise.” You all sound soft headed.
1) Iraq war was built on lies, and it required boots on the ground. So far I don't see any indication we're planning on putting our troops on the ground.
2) If you want to believe that Iran didn't just get caught lying about uranium enrichment, that's on you. It's a known fact. Why, when they had Uranium that was more than capable of producing nuclear energy, would they need to continue to enrich to weapons-grade levels?

Maybe you haven't been on the earth long enough to realize that every situation is not exactly the same. Trump put a deal on the table to avoid this, this was not option #1. Iran didn't take the deal, so Israel is doing what's necessary for them to survive.

Nothing about this is the same as the Iraq war.
 
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Apparently Bradley is totally fine with endless death and destruction if we get to sell a little more LNG to Europe.

But the Jews can get wiped off the face of the earth before we should send a single missile.
His stance seems to be, if it weakens America, he likes it.

We send hundreds of billions to Ukraine to fund them kidnapping their elderly and forcing them to the frontlines, while Americans died in North Carolina and other areas devastated by Helene. @bradleygator said nothing that I can remember.

Trump starts re-negotiating trade deals across the board to help generate growth, jobs and revenue. And its already doing all three. Bradley was furious.

Now our strongest world ally is under attack. Trump offered Iran a deal to end the conflict without loss of life. Iran ignored and started attacking our ally. Trump reluctantly agrees to help our ally defend itself. Bradley is again furious.

I really wonder if libs like this ever have a moment of pause, while twirling their mustaches after putting the damsel on the train tracks, if they stop to ask themselves "Am I the real villain here?"
 
Israel is really tearing up those lower flying drones Iran is using with their helicopter guns. They have taken a crap load of them out that way.
 


Highly doubt 10 bucks a gallon but if Iran does end up mining the Strait of Hormuz it would be a big headache to make it safe for shipping again. I think we need to be proactive and take out ships and submarines once they start mining and not wait until they get the place saturated.
 


Highly doubt 10 bucks a gallon but if Iran does end up mining the Strait of Hormuz it would be a big headache to make it safe for shipping again. I think we need to be proactive and take out ships and submarines once they start mining and not wait until they get the place saturated.
What happened the last time Iran tried this bullshit:



BTW, protecting the flow of liquid dinosaur =/= a new war. That's standing on business.
 


Highly doubt 10 bucks a gallon but if Iran does end up mining the Strait of Hormuz it would be a big headache to make it safe for shipping again. I think we need to be proactive and take out ships and submarines once they start mining and not wait until they get the place saturated.
Well if they do this they for sure are done. Look to Daniel 8 and flying goats.
 
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Highly doubt 10 bucks a gallon but if Iran does end up mining the Strait of Hormuz it would be a big headache to make it safe for shipping again. I think we need to be proactive and take out ships and submarines once they start mining and not wait until they get the place saturated.
Now we have what we wanted to end them. This is a HUGE mistake, but they were done anyway
 
Iran and my political journey.

Its 1979 and 9-10 year old me is shocked by the hostage situation. Jimma is so incompetent that he is already the butt of many jokes. Ronald Reagan is a charismatic statesman like figure. He inspired confidence during a dark time. I knew I was for him. Out came the scholastic reader at school ( a national newspaper for kids that came out from time to time during the school year.) It dealt with Iran and the Ayatollah. These people were bad news. I proceeded to tape the paper which featured the face of the Ayatollah to my swing set. I then commenced target practice. I went all Davy Crockett and Alvin York on his face.

Iran began my journey into politics, my early alignment with republicans, my love for Reagan and an introduction to Islam.

46 years! I would have thought we would have dealt with this sooner but...10 year old me was going to be an astronaut, Captain Kirk, fight the Russians in space and colonize mars before I became old at 31 in the ominous year 2000.

Anyway Iran has figured prominently in my political journey and worldview.
 
Iran and my political journey.

Its 1979 and 9-10 year old me is shocked by the hostage situation. Jimma is so incompetent that he is already the butt of many jokes. Ronald Reagan is a charismatic statesman like figure. He inspired confidence during a dark time. I knew I was for him. Out came the scholastic reader at school ( a national newspaper for kids that came out from time to time during the school year.) It dealt with Iran and the Ayatollah. These people were bad news. I proceeded to tape the paper which featured the face of the Ayatollah to my swing set. I then commenced target practice. I went all Davy Crockett and Alvin York on his face.

Iran began my journey into politics, my early alignment with republicans, my love for Reagan and an introduction to Islam.

46 years! I would have thought we would have dealt with this sooner but...10 year old me was going to be an astronaut, Captain Kirk, fight the Russians in space and colonize mars before I became old at 31 in the ominous year 2000.

Anyway Iran has figured prominently in my political journey and worldview.

Yep it sounds like I am about a year older than you and the Iran hostage stuff was the earliest big political thing I still remember that much. I remember my dad was a big Reagan guy and his dad loved Jimmy Carter for some reason. They used to argue about that a lot.
 
Most recent fat electrician is close to home!
Pall Mall Tn is 47 miles north of my hometown.
My GG dad knew Alvin. About 20 miles S of Pall Mall. Everybody met in Jamestown.


Mountain humor at the 8 min mark. Poor salesman had no idea he was being punked by the old timer. Jamestown/Jimtown is 33 miles N. of hometown.
 
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your grandpa was uninformed ...

Not sure what the deal was with him but I remember him arguing Carter was more for the working man and Reagan was for the rich. I think he was trying to act like Carter being weak didn't cause that hostage situation. Not sure if he would be a crazy lefty if alive today or not as most of those people hid their more extreme views apparently back then. Maybe he was like those former Dems that turned to Trump in 2016. Not really sure.
 
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Here. Here’s an intelligent member of your tribe exercising independent thought. Take notes and maybe you’ll think for yourselves some day. By the way, of all you war enthusiasts, how many of you have ever volunteered to put yourselves in harms way (Evil’s service is established). If you don’t answer, I’ll presume you’re a conscientious objector except on message boards.
USS Carl Vinson
 
Just like you were probably all anti escalation in Ukraine, which actually was much more in the US’ interest, Europe buys its LNG from us now instead of Russia, but now you’re mindlessly lining up to attack Iran even though there’s no upside to the US, all because Trump tweeted it out last weekend after literally campaigning against Middle East wars for 20 years.

Face it ghost, all you do is repost Trump’s latest tweet. You’re not even necessary to the conversation.
I am strongly against any invasion or occupation of Iran. I tend to think that if we think we can hit the main nuke sites with the bunker busters, then we should and be done with it…. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m skeptical of regime change, but I am open to the idea. I wonder who fills the power vacuum. However, I view Russia as a rational actor while I think Iran are violent religious fanatics.
 
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