I see some trouble brewing for UGA...
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I don’t disagree with most of this. Bryant did come up with a lot of the cheating stuff, but do they have a rule named after one of their players?
And I’d say now is what they look like on a level playing field. Even at the end of his career they had some momentum with recruiting from the years of cheating, and the ACC was worse than it is now. On a level playing field for their history, they’re at best the third program in the state and struggle to make a bowl every year. Other than that, I think we’re on the same page
I don't agree that 5-6 wins a year is level playing field. If they were in the SEC West, then possibly yes. But the ACC is so damn soft even if you are getting the leftover Florida kids you only need C level coaches to go 8-5/9-4. To go 5-7/6-6 you have to have F- coaching, which is what they have had these past two years, and nobody sticks with F- coaches for very long.
I'm hoping the new guy is a C-C+ level guy, that will be 8-9 wins a year but never a threat to actually be or do anything. An FSU that looks at the Gator Bowl as a good year, that's the FSU I want.
It's not only that but only so many guys can put it together are the right time. Saban is a great coach...only a few guys can put it all together.
Of course the racism stuff was bs, so is the 6 figure payment. I was just wondering if you knew what happened with Fields in Athens. I realize that you don't know.
Officially, he was lied to and told that he was going to be taking over the team, then he was misused and largely ignored in gameplanning, when he knew he knew he had the talent and ability to be leading a team to the playoffs right then.
Did you know that, just before signing with Georgia, and being a Georgia commit for some time, he was talking to Mullen and showed some interest in UF?
Well, of course that wasn't real. He was just negotiating for a bit more money. Why else would he go ahead and sign with a program that did not run a scheme he was good in, and had nobody on staff with a clue how to run that offense? If he was actually interested in playing and winning titles he would have signed with Florida, or, obviously, Ohio State.
Seriously, looking at how well Florida has done with mediocre QB's not designed for this system, where would we be right now if Fields had signed here? Second straight year in the playoffs? At a minimum. We would be a JUGGERNAUT.
Fields and Smart both made mistakes. Fields for going to play in an offense that wouldn’t use his talents and the use of a dual threat QB and for Smart for recruiting a QB that really doesn’t fit into the type of offense that he wants to run.
I definitely thought Saban had to be cheating when he was at LSU, cause I didn't want to admit my coach was getting outworked. So I get it.
Saban's strength is in recruiting and evaluating recruits. He's so good at the latter that he has been known to identify players that would be 'cancers' in the lockerroom and continue to recruit them just so our rivals will as well. He's burned Auburn on at least one occasion by doing this.
Where you can question him is his philosophy of hiring great recruiters first, great coaches second. You absolutely must be an elite recruiter, or Saban won't hire you. You don't have to be an elite coach, just a good one. I suspect his philosophy is that if you sign elite talent that are high character kids that they will be much easier to coach so focus on hiring recruiters as coaches. He's got a long track record that says this is a good model, although it has bitten him on occasion like in 2018 and to a lesser degree this year.
What I think will be a very interesting development is if Clemson beats LSU for the NC. That will give Dabo his 3rd NC in 4 years, and it would happen on the same year Bama doesn't even make the playoffs. I think that would create an interesting storyline for the offseason as it will clearly establish Dabo as the best coach in the country, while Saban may appear to be fading.
On the other hand, if LSU wins, that means Ed Orgeron has a NC ring, and Kirby doesn't. Who saw that coming?
I’m sure he was, and I’m sure he was. I don’t know what could possibly make some coaches suddenly become “great recruiters” and start hauling in non stop 5* over other programs with similar things to offer. I think smart had an advantage with his biggest division rivals being at a historic low point, but I don’t think guys just suddenly started to look at uga as a conduit to the nfl or whatever. Ole miss was even more unusual. And yeah, same with Meyer. I can see how a place like bama can start to cruise after being good for so long. I don’t know what it is that makes one guy an elite recruiter when there are coaches and programs that offer at least as good of a path to the league. If it’s just about a shot at the nfl and the amount they’re being paid, it should really be cut and dried, shouldn’t it? You want the kid you match whatever offer. So the intricacies of recruiting are weird to me.
Yeah it looked that way with like half our starters out last night vs. Baylor. That defense returns intact for 2020.....sorry.....not!
Yes. We just suck. Go dust off that old ass trophy. Considering you just used a “not” joke I’m guessing you were 20 when UGA won it.
