How is this possible?
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its fun to listen to the media try and reverse course. Election night: “counting has been stopped in (insert state/city here).” A month later. “Counting never stopped”. Fact checked and proven. Uhuh.
Things you saw and heard on election night, now we are told those things didn’t happen. Sad part is, you have libs like lizard that are cool with this type of crap. What they don’t realize, is by being ok with it, eventually it will come back to haunt themselves.
What are the rules for 'curing' ballots in PA? Can it be done after ED?
Very doubtful that many were legitimate even if curing is allowed after ED.
On top of that, the media shifts the narrative from counting stopped to days later that it never did. They eat it up hook line and sinker, then run to the board to post it yet never question any of it. It’s like that dude from the movie 50 First Dates, “hi, I’m Tom”, seconds later they don’t remember and right back to “hi, I’m Tom”.
These people are stupid
You are going to use an Excel spreadsheet as "evidence? You know how long it would take to change all the dates? 30 seconds, tops.
You guys kill me. Keep grasping those straws handed out by the twitter randos.
Let’s say for arguments sake it’s 100% real, would you classify this as fraud?
If you found out almost all the edits were to update voter addresses, would YOU classify it as fraud?
If the edits were to defraud the voters and change the votes to something other than the choice made by those voters, yes. For pretty much any other reason (including that this was due to an audit of the votes and correcting an incorrect original entry), I would say no.
Look, we don't know that any of this is real, or even if it is real, it doesn't indicate anything definitively. Unlike most of you, I don't just start with an assumption and look for evidence that I think validates my assumption. What I mostly have been doing is shooting down other people's assumptions based on some weak or even missing logic.
If what you say is in fact true, why are these local politicians fighting tooth and nail and refusing to allow inspection, auditing, and ignoring subpoenas. Nothing to hide, right? 😂
Bullshit. That's precisely what you do, you always start with the assumption that any evidence of voter fraud you're shown is wrong, and then try to twist the facts to validate your assumption.
If what you say is true, why is it every recount done where Dominion machines were used came out the same using the paper ballots printed by the Dominion machines? You do realize those ballots print out for the voter who checks it for accuracy before carrying it to the ballot box for insertion, correct?
Why would an audit be needed if the totality of the Dominion vote has already been proven accurate?
I think I'll start being an emoji jackass too. 🤣
See, that wasn’t hard was it?
I don’t know if it’s true or not, it’s interesting nonetheless if true.
To answer your question, if the address change is within the state the person voted, no. If the address change is to another state and said state still counted the vote, fraud.
That’s not true. I voted in person and never received a print out of who I voted for to turn into the ballot box.If what you say is true, why is it every recount done where Dominion machines were used came out the same using the paper ballots printed by the Dominion machines? You do realize those ballots print out for the voter who checks it for accuracy before carrying it to the ballot box for insertion, correct?
Why would an audit be needed if the totality of the Dominion vote has already been proven accurate?
I think I'll start being an emoji jackass too. 🤣
Also, if these states doing the recount were serious then they’d be verifying signatures as well.
If what you say is true, why is it every recount done where Dominion machines were used came out the same using the paper ballots printed by the Dominion machines? You do realize those ballots print out for the voter who checks it for accuracy before carrying it to the ballot box for insertion, correct?
Why would an audit be needed if the totality of the Dominion vote has already been proven accurate?
I think I'll start being an emoji jackass too. 🤣
Hand recount is meaningless if votes are injected to account for the fraud created by the machine.
That's why dems are fighting the Dominion machines being audited. Machines in two states have been audited, and the machine rigging was uncovered both times.
Hand recount is meaningless. Re-read until you understand.
He's also saying dems like Warren and Klobachar are liars, cause they raised the same concerns about Dominion machines being used to rig elections.
Better question: Why would dems object to it? We could have had every machine audited weeks ago and this could all be settled by now.
I think you know why.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Were those paper ballots signatures verified and checked? Of course they were not. Several of the machines had error rates approaching 70% when audited, which required adjudication. Who oversaw those ballots that were deemed in error? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Yeah, we know who put what ballot in which piles. You really haven't done your homework here.If what you say is true, why is it every recount done where Dominion machines were used came out the same using the paper ballots printed by the Dominion machines? You do realize those ballots print out for the voter who checks it for accuracy before carrying it to the ballot box for insertion, correct?
Why would an audit be needed if the totality of the Dominion vote has already been proven accurate?
I think I'll start being an emoji jackass too. 🤣
You are quick to jump on the fraud bandwagon.
What about a person who lives in multiple states? You can have your primary address in Pennsylvania but get your mail elsewhere. If you are voting in multiple states, then it's fraud on a personal level, but simply having an out of state address isn't proof.
What about a person with power of attorney? You could have POA over a person in PA while living elsewhere. They could vote in PA but you might be the mailing address for that person and so have an out of state address on the PA records.
What about students? You could be an out of state student going to school in PA. You have the right to vote in PA even if your permanent mailing address is still your parent's house.
See? This is why I distrust simple evidence and simple answers. Real life is rarely simple, so if you are being told simple things (such as "see this spreadsheet? Proof of fraud!), they are probably not true, or at least, only you are only getting part of the story.
Here is a great example of a Twitter rando breaking news. Look at the time stamp and date.
Trump gives Barr and Durham power to present classified information to grand jury in Trump-Russia investigation - Washington Examiner
President Trump released an executive order on Tuesday stating Attorney General William Barr and, by extension, special counsel John Durham are authorized to present classified information to a grand jury in the inquiry into the Trump-Russia investigators. Trump gave Barr wide-ranging powers to...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
1. One person one vote
2. For argument sakes you have POA over your grandparents. They live in PA, you live in FL. You have the mail coming to you in FL. If your grandparents are registered to vote in PA and not FL but receive a mail in ballot in FL, you can fill out and send but if they vote in PA as well it’s fraud. Another reason why mass mail in ballots are horrible.
3. Again, you’re forgetting they need to register to vote.
These scenarios are why mail in ballots, unless requested, are horrible and susceptible to fraud.
Ahaahahahaha!! Read one of the comments.Here is a great example of a Twitter rando breaking news. Look at the time stamp and date.
Trump gives Barr and Durham power to present classified information to grand jury in Trump-Russia investigation - Washington Examiner
President Trump released an executive order on Tuesday stating Attorney General William Barr and, by extension, special counsel John Durham are authorized to present classified information to a grand jury in the inquiry into the Trump-Russia investigators. Trump gave Barr wide-ranging powers to...
So if I run my stimulus check through a dominion voting machine at 4am... Will my $600 turn into $100,000? 😂
You voted on a terminal? In Florida (ok, in Florida in the counties where I have lived and voted), we all get paper ballots, so you obviously wouldn't get a printout then, but according to the below, Dominion does have paper printouts.
https://www.dominionvoting.com/election2020-setting-the-record-straight/
As to verifying signatures, are you kidding? You ever hear of a cost-benefit analysis? You DO realize that signature verification requires special training, right? Do you know how long it would take to scan a million signatures? Let's say a signature expert could do it in an average of one minute, it would take 2,083 days (or 2,083 signature experts one day) to review all those signatures. And where would you get all these people from? And where would you have them do this? And to find, what? 99.99% of the signatures match, and .01% are unsure?
So the massive cost of such an undertaking, compared to the benefit of finding a couple hundred suspicious signatures? This is something worthwhile to you?
It is when the same signature is on about 100 ballots at a time. 😂 "NOT" rocket science.
‘Same signature on multiple ballots in Antrim County’…
Michigan Sec of State official tells volunteers to count ‘multiple ballots with the very same signature’ during Antrim County vote audit. Constitutional Attorney Matt DePerno was…
www.citizenfreepress.com
Auditing the machines can be done in 2 days tops. You have claimed that the machines are legit, so there should be no objection to this.
And yet...
I don’t live in Florida
You’re forgetting when you registered to vote you had to sign the form. That signature gets scanned and uploaded. In a normal election, the machines give a pass/fail when the ballot is uploaded. If the ballot fails, it’s set aside for a person to check the signature. If that person passes the ballot, the vote counts. If it fails in person verification, vote not counted.
The issue in the states that are in question is most of them had the governor and election board officials change the law to no signature verification. It is the states legislature to determine election law, not the governor or election board officials.
Because these states did not follow their own law, they never should have certified the vote. Because they did certify the vote and two sets of electoral votes were sent, Biden and Trump, then the election in those states is contested and by law Pence cannot count those states electoral votes.
I never said you lived in Florida, I can only speak to personal experience, so that's what I did.
Nobody sent two sets of electoral voters. The electoral college has already voted, and Pence has counted those votes. The electoral vote is over, Biden is President-elect; that was the debunked conspiracy theory of weeks ago, and now it's more than debunked, it's simply false. But, just for fun, here's an article about it, where about a dozen Republicans showed up at the Capitol to have their own electoral college vote, but the state police denied them entry, because the real electoral college was already in there. You should read it, it's a hoot and a half, and really shows how ridiculous this whole Trump whiny baby thing has been.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...fcc59c-3e52-11eb-9453-fc36ba051781_story.html
7 states sent 2 slates of electors.
Pence doesn't count the votes until Jan 6th. Good grief the ignorance.
I’m not even going to start with this source you posted.
Let’s say I’m wrong about the two sets of votes, the president of the senate (Pence) still has to accept those EC votes. By law, if the election is contested, he cannot accept those votes.
Here is a great example of a Twitter rando breaking news. Look at the time stamp and date.
Trump gives Barr and Durham power to present classified information to grand jury in Trump-Russia investigation - Washington Examiner
President Trump released an executive order on Tuesday stating Attorney General William Barr and, by extension, special counsel John Durham are authorized to present classified information to a grand jury in the inquiry into the Trump-Russia investigators. Trump gave Barr wide-ranging powers to...
Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent, but is that a Twitter rando? Looks like a blue check who works for CBS.
I don’t know if you are one of those who ride on the “MSM is fake news” short bus, but it doesn’t get much more MSM than CBS.
My point of the Twitter post was to show Lizard that news breaks faster on Twitter than on a site.
I question everything msm reports
Do you question the tweet that you posted since it came from an MSM source? Or, was this one grandfathered in because you found it on Twitter?
Most MSM outlets regularly tweet breaking news. And contrary to what many folks here think, they usually break stories before the crackpots do. They just have higher standards about verifying sources so they don’t as much of the sketchier stuff. Crackpot sites have lower standards, so they’ll often “break” stories with little to no fact-checking.
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