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[RentechCEO]

A one score game going into the 4th is a game in doubt my man. Maybe you felt confident FSU wouldn't lose because after all they were way more talented, and to that I'd say it's logical. I'd probably feel the same. Doesn't mean the game wasn't in doubt though.

Not when your D has totally shut down the other team's O. Like I said, I was there and it was never in doubt even going into the 4th qtr. BTW you know that the very first play of the 4th quarter was a 9 yard TD by Manuel to put us up 24-10. Sorry to disappoint my man but it was never ever in doubt.

 

[instaGATOR]

Not playing in the league.

Proving that all of the idiots are not just confined to reFSUcks....

 

[danoleman]

Proving that all of the idiots are not just confined to reFSUcks....

Did you miss the part where I mentioned he completed 47% of his passes for his career??

 

[instaGATOR]

Did you miss the part where I mentioned he completed 47% of his passes for his career??

Did you miss the part where El'-Dimway traded away Gaffney and Lloyd before starting Tebow in game 6 for his 1-4 team?

Did you compare their yards per reception numbers, or just the completion %?
Dink & Dunk crap (6 yds/comp) will get you a much higher completion %.

You and the media-morons and idiot-commentators try to make your entire case against Tebow on his completion %, while ignoring all of the really important stats and facts. Typical....

PS

Tebow's completion % for the Jets was 75% btw...

 

[alaskanseminole]

A one score game going into the 4th is a game in doubt my man. Maybe you felt confident FSU wouldn't lose because after all they were way more talented, and to that I'd say it's logical. I'd probably feel the same. Doesn't mean the game wasn't in doubt though.

I get what you're saying, oozie, but I remember that game clearly and it was never in doubt. NIU averaged 4.3 yards per play through the air and a paltry 2.6 on the ground (not even amassing 100 yards). Conversely, FSU had 7 different receivers average more than 10+ yards per play and the ground game put up almost 250 yards.

Sadly, I think many Noles assumed Houston was another NIU...to the point the Warchant staff even wrote an article completely disregarding them as a "worthy" opponent.

 

[danoleman]

Did you miss the part where El'-Dimway traded away Gaffney and Lloyd before starting Tebow in game 6 for his 1-4 team?

Did you compare their yards per reception numbers, or just the completion %?
Dink & Dunk crap (6 yds/comp) will get you a much higher completion %.

You and the media-morons and idiot-commentators try to make your entire case against Tebow on his completion %, while ignoring all of the really important stats and facts. Typical....

PS

Tebow's completion % for the Jets was 75% btw...

Dude no qb will ever keep a job completing 47% of his passes. No need to even argue any further.

 

[ZZ1059]

...to the point the Warchant staff even wrote an article completely disregarding them as a "worthy" opponent.

This should have been your proof they were a good team. “Warchant Staff” = F’ing Morons

 

[danoleman]

I get what you're saying, oozie, but I remember that game clearly and it was never in doubt. NIU averaged 4.3 yards per play through the air and a paltry 2.6 on the ground (not even amassing 100 yards). Conversely, FSU had 7 different receivers average more than 10+ yards per play and the ground game put up almost 250 yards.

Sadly, I think many Noles assumed Houston was another NIU...to the point the Warchant staff even wrote an article completely disregarding them as a "worthy" opponent.

That's not exactly true. They said the perception among fans was that they weren't worthy but they also said Houston could easily win that game.

 

[instaGATOR]

Dude no qb will ever keep a job completing 47% of his passes. No need to even argue any further.

As another one with media-parrot, idiot-opinions gets shown up with the actual on the field facts/stats. And it wasn't an argument, as you have no real factual basis for your drivel.

PS

Could you post John Elway's completion % and his TD/Int ratio, for his first year in the NFL.
Show us what you really KNOW about football....

 

[danoleman]

As another one with media-parrot, idiot-opinions gets shown up with the actual on the field facts/stats. And it wasn't an argument, as you have no real factual basis for your drivel.

PS

Could you post John Elway's completion % and his TD/Int ratio, for his first year in the NFL.
Show us what you really KNOW about football....

47% is Tebow's career completion percentage. Name one starter even remotely close to this.

 

[instaGATOR]

47% is Tebow's career completion percentage. Name one starter even remotely close to this.

You really are this lane-stupid aren't you? (rhetorical)

 

[danoleman]

You really are this lane-stupid aren't you? (rhetorical)

No but you are clueless. Who's going to have a starter in the NFL completing less than 50% of his passes?? Answer that one.

 

[instaGATOR]

So, you think you get to ignore any inconvenient facts/stats, ignore my questions, but then demand that I answer your irrelevant BS questions???

And then you have the idiot-nerve to call me clueless? ROTF LMAO!!!

Here's another for ya. List all of the NFL starters with a 15+ yds/comp average for us....

 

[RentechCEO]

Did you miss the part where El'-Dimway traded away Gaffney and Lloyd before starting Tebow in game 6 for his 1-4 team?

Did you compare their yards per reception numbers, or just the completion %?
Dink & Dunk crap (6 yds/comp) will get you a much higher completion %.

You and the media-morons and idiot-commentators try to make your entire case against Tebow on his completion %, while ignoring all of the really important stats and facts. Typical....

PS

Tebow's completion % for the Jets was 75% btw...

You know Denver has done pretty well since Tim left and they got a real QB.

PS How many passes did Tebow throw for NY? 4 or 5?

 

[RentechCEO]

Cam Newton didn't leave UF by his choice. He had to leave. He got busted for doing some improper things academically. Why do you think he went the JUCO route first? He wasn't able to transfer directly to a D1 school.

No, Newton chose to leave. He was not expelled nor was he thrown off the team. I am sure had he faced a Student CoC hearing (which I HIGHLY doubt he ever would) I am sure it would have gone his way as things did during the Meyer regime.

 

[RentechCEO]

Proving that all of the idiots are not just confined to reFSUcks....

Oh, so you are saying all the teams and coaches in the NFL are idiots? Right!

 

[RentechCEO]

As another one with media-parrot, idiot-opinions gets shown up with the actual on the field facts/stats. And it wasn't an argument, as you have no real factual basis for your drivel.

PS

Could you post John Elway's completion % and his TD/Int ratio, for his first year in the NFL.
Show us what you really KNOW about football....

Are you comparing Tebow to John Elway? Really?

 

[GatorGray]

No, Newton chose to leave. He was not expelled nor was he thrown off the team. I am sure had he faced a Student CoC hearing (which I HIGHLY doubt he ever would) I am sure it would have gone his way as things did during the Meyer regime.

No

 

[RentechCEO]

No

No what? Do you have evidence Cam was expelled or thrown off the team?

 

[danoleman]

So, you think you get to ignore any inconvenient facts/stats, ignore my questions, but then demand that I answer your irrelevant BS questions???

And then you have the idiot-nerve to call me clueless? ROTF LMAO!!!

Here's another for ya. List all of the NFL starters with a 15+ yds/comp average for us....

I'm telling you nothing else matters if you cant even complete 50% of your passes. At the end of the day a qb must be able to complete passes and keep the chains moving. Tebow didn't do that at a high enough rate.

 

[SoProudNole]

A one score game going into the 4th is a game in doubt my man. Maybe you felt confident FSU wouldn't lose because after all they were way more talented, and to that I'd say it's logical. I'd probably feel the same. Doesn't mean the game wasn't in doubt though.

I remember lots of gator fans saying that 2012 game (one score game going in to the 4th) was never in doubt. Maybe you weren't one of them.

 

[SKSnole]

And your point about an 'after the fact' argument is dumb. Any and all judgments on whether a team overachieved or underachieved is 'after the fact' in its nature. All teams are judged at the end of their seasons not before, so it's naturally after the fact. Yes, even including any of your judgements. Teams aren't judged on preseason polls, that's why the title is awarded at the end of the regular season. This was a logical fail.

I think you missed my point.

 

[oozie7]

I remember lots of gator fans saying that 2012 game (one score game going in to the 4th) was never in doubt. Maybe you weren't one of them.

No I wasn't. That game was a dogfight through three quarters and then UF pulled away in the 4th leading by 17 with about two minutes left. Towards the end there was no doubt, but it was definitely a contested game throughout.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Yet that was what he was suited to be and mostly how he was used. Retard? How insensitive of you!

My goodness.

The man won a Heisman. He was the one of the first player in college football history to have 20 rushing TDs and 20 Passing TDs.

I know you are trolling, because that is all a person of your limited intellect is capable of doing. But if you are to successfully troll, there must be some small iota of intelligence in the comment.

Even that seems to escape you.

 

[MJWilliamson]

FSU's 2012 team produced the most drafted players in the country that year. You keep going on and on about injuries as if FSU is the only team that suffered season ending injuries to key starters any given year. You still had more talent than anybody else. And they underachieved because they lost to a trash NC ST. team when they were 4th in the nation at the time and then got house at home by their rival who was also less talented than they were. But injuries.

Thus demonstrating yet another data point where Fisher loses to a vastly inferior team. He has done that in four of the six years he has coached for FSU. More, if we are to count his years as OC.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I remember lots of gator fans saying that 2012 game (one score game going in to the 4th) was never in doubt. Maybe you weren't one of them.

I never said it was not in doubt. But the final score was pretty indicative of how the game went.

Florida pretty much dominated 3 of 4 quarters.

 

[Dannygator1989]

No, Newton chose to leave. He was not expelled nor was he thrown off the team. I am sure had he faced a Student CoC hearing (which I HIGHLY doubt he ever would) I am sure it would have gone his way as things did during the Meyer regime.

I get what you're trying to do.

It's fine.

And I agree about Tebow.

But Newton? You're either ignorant or just trolling.

Strong possibility it's both.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I

Strong possibility it's both.

It is both

 

[RentechCEO]

My goodness.

The man won a Heisman. He was the one of the first player in college football history to have 20 rushing TDs and 20 Passing TDs.

I know you are trolling, because that is all a person of your limited intellect is capable of doing. But if you are to successfully troll, there must be some small iota of intelligence in the comment.

Even that seems to escape you.

Lots of college QBs surrounded by great talent and used in a system do well at that position until they get to the NFL. I would compare Tebow to Eric Crouch in that regard. Mostly a runner (in fact I think Tebow was consistently your best rusher and short yardage guy) who can throw a pass now and then because they have great WRs in single coverage. Hasn't this been covered before?

 

[RentechCEO]

I get what you're trying to do.

It's fine.

And I agree about Tebow.

But Newton? You're either ignorant or just trolling.

Strong possibility it's both.

Just responding to MJ about Fisher "running off" Coker or "letting Winston go". I stand by what I said previously. Newton was not expelled nor was he thrown off the team. Meyer was quoted as saying he was welcome back and you know Brantley was ahead of him on the depth chart.

 

[oozie7]

No Brantley wasn't, Cam was injured and redshirting that season.

 

[RentechCEO]

That's not exactly true. They said the perception among fans was that they weren't worthy but they also said Houston could easily win that game.

I think what Warchant said and many of us agreed with was that playing Houston (like NIU) was a lose lose for FSU and a win-win for Houston.

It was their Super Bowl and they wanted it more no doubt. If we beat Houston then we hear that they were AAC and we should have beaten them and if we lose then we're no good. We destroyed NIU in 2013 but did we get any credit for it? Nope.

That doesn't mean we thought Houston was bad but we (I) did and do think we had superior talent. That's why fans hate these types of games. Nevertheless we lost and it does add a sour taste to the season.

 

[RentechCEO]

No Brantley wasn't, Cam was injured and redshirting that season.

I stand corrected. You are right about the depth chart.

 

[instaGATOR]

I'm telling you nothing else matters if you cant even complete 50% of your passes. At the end of the day a qb must be able to complete passes and keep the chains moving. Tebow didn't do that at a high enough rate.

At the end of the day, QB's have to 'not turn the ball over' and they have to 'lead their team to a winning record.'

With a competent GM and HBC, Tebow could be successful in the NFL, because he had a 9-7 W/L record and a 2.1 to 1 TD/Int ratio with an otherwise 4-14 team with IDIOTS calling the shots.

My Granddaddy always told me; "You can always tell and idiot,,, you just can't tell him much," which in your case goes double imo.

You only dic-tate what matters to you,,, not what matters to the rest of the world (including me).

 

[danoleman]

At the end of the day, QB's have to 'not turn the ball over' and they have to 'lead their team to a winning record.'

With a competent GM and HBC, Tebow could be successful in the NFL, because he had a 9-7 W/L record and a 2.1 to 1 TD/Int ratio with an otherwise 4-14 team with IDIOTS calling the shots.

My Granddaddy always told me; "You can always tell and idiot,,, you just can't tell him much," which in your case goes double imo.

You only dic-tate what matters to you,,, not what matters to the rest of the world (including me).

I think your Granddaddy was calling you an idiot and you missed the point. Let me say this again. No qb will be in the NFL long completing 47% of his passes. Nothing more needs to be said. He's not a tail back so the running does not matter. He must be able to read a defense and complete passes.

 

[instaGATOR]

I think your Granddaddy was calling you an idiot and you missed the point. Let me say this again. No qb will be in the NFL long completing 47% of his passes. Nothing more needs to be said. He's not a tail back so the running does not matter. He must be able to read a defense and complete passes.

Nope, you don't think at all, you just continue to snivel and drivel out the same ole tired BS.

Elway had the Peyton plan in the works. He didn't want Tebow, who was busy setting Bronco team records for passing and running. But I'm sure that you're ignorant of that, among the many other things that your non-thinking has missed.

Elway traded away their #1 WR Brandon Lloyd (only Pro Bowler on offense) and the #2 WR Jabar Gaffney, before plugging in Tebow on his then 1-4 team. BTW, their starting RB N.Moreno was injured out at the time. To add insult to injury, he then whined about Tebow's completion percentage. What a hoax!!!
The head coach, John Fox, had never ran a Spread/Option offense in his entire coaching career, so it was Tebow that showed them the plays that would work with the personal that was available. Tebow took them to the Playoffs, something that had not happened in years, and he beat the NFL's #1 Steeler defense. After 2 years of No-Super Bowl Peyton, Fox was the scapegoat firing for El' Dim-way.

Tebow then threw for 75% with the Jets, but Stupidimus Rex was to stupid to start him. He instead started the 12 TD to 18 Interceptions plus a Butt-Fumble Sanchize. He then ended the season by starting McSackroy (9 sacks in one game).Then they dumped Tebow to draft Geno Smith. Resulting in the Rex's eventual firing.

Cow-Chip Kelly dropped Tebow to keep glass-jaw Bad-ford and the Butt-fumble, and that got him fired even before the season ended.

Tebow can play at the NFL level (a proven winner) but it seems that there are a whole lot of total incompetent idiots that are stealing owner money as NFL coaches....
(ya-know, you're prolly smart enough to join them)

 

[danoleman]

Nope, you don't think at all, you just continue to snivel and drivel out the same ole tired BS.

Elway had the Peyton plan in the works. He didn't want Tebow, who was busy setting Bronco team records for passing and running. But I'm sure that you're ignorant of that, among the many other things that your non-thinking has missed.

Elway traded away their #1 WR Brandon Lloyd (only Pro Bowler on offense) and the #2 WR Jabar Gaffney, before plugging in Tebow on his then 1-4 team. BTW, their starting RB N.Moreno was injured out at the time. To add insult to injury, he then whined about Tebow's completion percentage. What a hoax!!!
The head coach, John Fox, had never ran a Spread/Option offense in his entire coaching career, so it was Tebow that showed them the plays that would work with the personal that was available. Tebow took them to the Playoffs, something that had not happened in years, and he beat the NFL's #1 Steeler defense. After 2 years of No-Super Bowl Peyton, Fox was the scapegoat firing for El' Dim-way.

Tebow then threw for 75% with the Jets, but Stupidimus Rex was to stupid to start him. He instead started the 12 TD to 18 Interceptions plus a Butt-Fumble Sanchize. He then ended the season by starting McSackroy (9 sacks in one game).Then they dumped Tebow to draft Geno Smith. Resulting in the Rex's eventual firing.

Cow-Chip Kelly dropped Tebow to keep glass-jaw Bad-ford and the Butt-fumble, and that got him fired even before the season ended.

Tebow can play at the NFL level (a proven winner) but it seems that there are a whole lot of total incompetent idiots that are stealing owner money as NFL coaches....
(ya-know, you're prolly smart enough to join them)

LOL

 

[alaskanseminole]

In summary...instaGATOR is right. The NFL is wrong.

/thread

 

[GatorGray]

In summary...instaGATOR is right. The NFL is wrong.

/thread

And Rantech knows EVERYTHING about UF, much more so than those of us who went to school there and/or have always followed the program closely.

 

[PacoGator19]

Newton couldn't return to UF due to academics. Why do you think the kid transfered to a JUCO? How often does a highly recruited player transfer from a D1 school to a JUCO? There was a reason for that. It's about as obvious as it can be.