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Highland Park (Chicago) Shooter is a white male 18-20 ...How long before conservatives start defending gun violence by saying he's mentally unstable?

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First off - the guy is a psychopathic killer. Not sure if he is criminally insane.

With that said - he CLEARLY isn’t a MAGA person. He’s a Socialist, just like the killer in Buffalo.

The problem is not guns. The problem is “Culture Rot” that has been intentionally brought to America by Leftists.

Murders like these did not happen until Leftists successfully began the de-evolution of American Society & Morals. That started in the late 60’s & gained deeper roots until the mid-late 80’s. In the early 90’s the Moral decay spread.
 
First off - the guy is a psychopathic killer. Not sure if he is criminally insane.

With that said - he CLEARLY isn’t a MAGA person. He’s a Socialist, just like the killer in Buffalo.

The problem is not guns. The problem is “Culture Rot” that has been intentionally brought to America by Leftists.

Murders like these did not happen until Leftists successfully began the de-evolution of American Society & Morals. That started in the late 60’s & gained deeper roots until the mid-late 80’s. In the early 90’s the Moral decay spread.
right...secular living and fewer people turning toward Jesus means they are looking Satan square in the face.
 
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Still think slavery started after the civil war?

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Nice try as I never said that. I said the Democrat Party started the KKK which ensued the enslavement of black people. What other weak insults do you have....you butt-hurt white boi? Seems like you got nothin' left in the chamber.
 
Gun violence isn't a political issue?

Then why are the conservatives & trumpanzees on here blaming it on democratic run cities?

We once had a federal ban on assault rifles,,,
Has assault weapon violence gone down since the ban expired?

Reducing the number of guns on the street has worked

Expanding gun rights has only lead to more gun violence
EASY answer is...that is where a HUGE majority of it happens. Let me explain why, since we know how slow you are(as well as EVERY lefty) In blue ran cities...criminals get released from jail even when they commit very serious crimes. In those cities(and some of the cities where that may not happen as much) ALL have strong gun laws. Criminals KNOW that people they commit crimes against will not shoot back. What IDIOT libs DO NOT UNDERSTAND is...criminals WILL obtain firearms...they care ZERO about strict gun laws. So law abiding people(like me...and probably many others on this board cannot have protection from these criminals that YOUR SIDE refuses to keep in jail, and since YOUR SIDE defunds the police, and make THEM out to be America's problem...and they leave the profession in droves....these liberal chitholes are unsafe.

Secondly...EVERY one of these mass shootings SHOULD have never happened. In this particular shooting....the police KNEW he was a problem, confiscated many knifes and swords from his house...and never reported it further, allowing for him to obtain these weapons' legally. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED! But NO...the party of DIMWITS want to take MY guns away...guns I have owned for 5 decades(some of them) and NEVER committed ANY crime with. THAT is the answer from the dim wits. HOW STUPID IS THAT?? Can one of you DIM WITS PLEase EXPLAIN HOW TAKING my ar15 AWAY, will stop a criminal from using one? Is it because it is now illegal to own one? How does that work with other crimes? Lets make murder illegal!! How about drugs? Whoops...they already are...and it DOES NOT WORK. I know the real plan why the left wants us disarmed...and let me go on record right here...right now. Come try for mine first. But you had better go practice falling down...you are going to need the practice.
 
Guess you "missed" this part of the article...


Mr Crimo was also pictured in a Chicago Tribune story about the rally, where the protest was described as “tense” with supporters and counter-protesters facing off against each other.

Another photo circulating online shows Mr Crimo wrapped in a blue Mr Trump flag.

It has also emerged that Mr Crimo’s father, Bob Crimo, only follows one account on Twitter – an archived account of Mr Trump’s tweets.


Mayor Nancy Rotering, who took on and beat Mr Crimo’s father Bob Crimo for the role, said on Tuesday that she expects the 22-year-old to be charged over the July 4 attack later today.

Prior to the massacre, Mr Crimo had posted several disturbing videos glorifying violence on his YouTube account.
I have evidence and screenshots of his social media. You have mention of his father's politics?

Once again, when The Narrative drives everything facts don't matter.

 
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Gun violence isn't a political issue?

Then why are the conservatives & trumpanzees on here blaming it on democratic run cities?

We once had a federal ban on assault rifles,,,
Has assault weapon violence gone down since the ban expired?

Reducing the number of guns on the street has worked


Expanding gun rights has only lead to more gun violence
It did nothing.


Even the DOJ agrees:


Answer two questions please:
1) What does "AR" stand for in AR-15?
2) Define an assault weapon.
 
First off - the guy is a psychopathic killer. Not sure if he is criminally insane.

With that said - he CLEARLY isn’t a MAGA person. He’s a Socialist, just like the killer in Buffalo.

The problem is not guns. The problem is “Culture Rot” that has been intentionally brought to America by Leftists.

Murders like these did not happen until Leftists successfully began the de-evolution of American Society & Morals. That started in the late 60’s & gained deeper roots until the mid-late 80’s. In the early 90’s the Moral decay spread.
Amen. But check out Eric Swallow-well's tweet below. People like @RayGravesGhost lap that sh!t up and believe it as gospel.

 
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Nice try as I never said that. I said the Democrat Party started the KKK which ensued the enslavement of black people. What other weak insults do you have....you butt-hurt white boi? Seems like you got nothin' left in the chamber.

Are you denying you posted this?

Ah, but it was the Democrat Party you love and support who started and institutionalized slavery my delusional friend.

Given that I've already shown you that democratic party was started AFTER the Civil War how is it possible they 'started and institutionalized slavery' ?

You're a disgrace to black people
 
I have evidence and screenshots of his social media. You have mention of his father's politics?

Huh? The photos I posted were from his social media you idiot LOL

And his father was the jackass that made it possible for him to obtain a gun


fatboy clinging to the the gateway pundit for answers

Fact is he attended trump rallies, is photographed draped in a trump flag, and his father who made his gun purchase possible is a trumpanzee

Its not conclusive evidence...but it sure as hell is pointing in one direction
 
Are you denying you posted this?



Given that I've already shown you that democratic party was started AFTER the Civil War how is it possible they 'started and institutionalized slavery' ?

You're a disgrace to black people
LMFAO!!! Is that you BSC posing as a black dude behind that white man's name again??? The whole board knows you're full of shit because you're 1) a white boi, and 2) always getting your ass reamed in here daily.

You're a joke and a pathetic disgrace to ALL humanity. And your attempt at using my own words against me is just another example of how you've been debunked on all fronts. After all, it was you who posted the BS about the "Southern Strategy" and "Great Switch" that never existed or even happened.

It is white liberal, black-faced, Joy Behar-types like you that are the problem in this country.

Now go back to your Mommy's basement and play Call Of Duty with your internet buddies.
 
LMFAO!!! Is that you BSC posing as a black dude behind that white man's name again??? The whole board knows you're full of shit because you're 1) a white boi, and 2) always getting your ass reamed in here daily.

You're a joke and a pathetic disgrace to ALL humanity. And your attempt at using my own words against me is just another example of how you've been debunked on all fronts. After all, it was you who posted the BS about the "Southern Strategy" and "Great Switch" that never existed or even happened.

It is white liberal, black-faced, Joy Behar-types like you that are the problem in this country.

Now go back to your Mommy's basement and play Call Of Duty with your internet buddies.


Looking at your own words that prove you're an idiot uncle tom really bothers you huh?

LMAO
 
Looking at your own words that prove you're an idiot uncle tom really bothers you huh?

LMAO
Doesn't bother me at all like it bothers you to know that black people can think for themselves, know truth, and call out idiots like yourself. Nice try at shamming me White-Boi but the rest of the board already knows you're a fraud.
 
I don't have to try and shame you...you do that by what you post

Slavery in the US started in 1619
Democratic party founded 1828

dopey claims democrats started institutional slavery 200 years before the party existed
 
You really think he's sane? Really?

I didn't say he was sane...

I said the gun advocates will immediately run to his mental condition as an excuse to blame rather than his access to guns


P.S. - no one's "justifying" gun violence.

Call it whatever you like but we had less gun violence like this when we had a federal ban on these types of weapons.

Against a ban? ...you're complicit
 
His father (trump supporter) is already justifying sponsoring his crazy ass son to get a gun...even after the kid threatened to kill him with knives & swords

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dad-highland-park-suspect-said-101320600.html
Dad of Highland Park suspect said he sponsored his son's gun permit application because he thought he wanted to go to the shooting range

  • Seven people were killed in a mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois.
  • The suspect's father said he sponsored his son's gun permit as he thought he wanted to go to a range.
  • He said of his son: "I want a long sentence."
The father of a man suspected of the fatal mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade said he sponsored his son's gun permit application because he thought he wanted to go to a shooting range.

Robert Crimo Jr. told the New York Post that he sponsored his son's firearm owner's identification card, which Illinois residents must have to possess firearms or ammunition legally.

He said he did this because he believed his son wanted to go to the shooting range and that the 21-year-old suspect was given background checks when he bought the guns.

"You know, he drove there, he ordered them, he picked them up, they did his background check on each one," he told the Post.

He said he had "zero" involvement in the mass shooting.

The father of the suspect said people have tried to blame him for the shooting: "They make me like I groomed him to do all this. I've been here my whole life, and I'm gonna stay here, hold my head up high, because I didn't do anything wrong."

A shooting suspect opened fire during a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, a Chicago suburb, on Monday, killing seven people.

Police identified Crimo Jr.'s son as the shooter, and took him into custody.

He was charged with seven counts of first-degree murder, the Lake County state attorney said, adding he could face "dozens more" charges.

Dozens were also injured during the shooting spree, where the shooter shot more than 70 rounds, authorities said, Insider reported.

The shooter carried the attack out with a rifle and owned at least 5 guns, authorities added on Tuesday.

He made his first court appearance on Wednesday. A prosecutor said that he admitted the shooting, Reuters reported.

Crimo told the Post he wants a substantial punishment for his son: "I want a long sentence."

"That's life. You know you have consequences for actions. He made a choice. He didn't have to do that. I think there's mental illness there, obviously. … I didn't see a lot of it."
 
I don't have to try and shame you...you do that by what you post

Slavery in the US started in 1619
Democratic party founded 1828

dopey claims democrats started institutional slavery 200 years before the party existed
And by posting that you fundamentally out yourself as the true white liberal racist ass you really are. Even if I were off by X-amount of years, the truth is obvious Democrats enslaved black people. The same party you support to this day. Congratulations for stepping into the bear-trap Dumb-Ass White Boi! Thanks for playing!.
 
I didn't say he was sane...

I said the gun advocates will immediately run to his mental condition as an excuse to blame rather than his access to guns
What a ridiculous contradiction. Would you have been happier if he drove into the parade in an SUV?

Call it whatever you like but we had less gun violence like this when we had a federal ban on these types of weapons.
No, we didn't. From "An updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban"
Koper, 2004: Although the ban has been successful in reducing crimes with AWs [Assault Weapons], any benefits from this reduction are likely to have been outweighed by steady or rising use of non-banned semiautomatics with LCMs [large-capacity magazines], which are used in crime much more frequently than AWs. Therefore, we cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence. And, indeed, there has been no discernible reduction in the lethality and injuriousness of gun violence, based on indicators like the percentage of gun crimes resulting in death or the share of gunfire incidents resulting in injury, as we might have expected had the ban reduced crimes with both AWs and LCMs.



Against a ban? ...you're complicit
No, we're just not stupid enough to believe criminals follow laws.
 
Way to out your own racist @ss.
You see that as well. He's just a white boi posing as a black dude by using a white man's name as his handle. You can't make this crap up. And the entire message board sees it.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
What a ridiculous contradiction. Would you have been happier if he drove into the parade in an SUV?


No, we didn't. From "An updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban"
Koper, 2004: Although the ban has been successful in reducing crimes with AWs [Assault Weapons], any benefits from this reduction are likely to have been outweighed by steady or rising use of non-banned semiautomatics with LCMs [large-capacity magazines], which are used in crime much more frequently than AWs.

So the assault weapons ban reduced crimes with AW

So your reasoning is since it didn't lower crimes with other types of weapons then we shouldn't have it at all?

How about banning assault weapons AND LCMs?

Therefore, we cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence. And, indeed, there has been no discernible reduction in the lethality and injuriousness of gun violence, based on indicators like the percentage of gun crimes resulting in death or the share of gunfire incidents resulting in injury, as we might have expected had the ban reduced crimes with both AWs and LCMs.

And what happened once the ban was lifted?

Gun violence has increased

No, we're just not stupid enough to believe criminals follow laws.

So by that logic we don't need a law against theft because thieves don't follow that law either?
 
Huh? The photos I posted were from his social media you idiot LOL

And his father was the jackass that made it possible for him to obtain a gun



fatboy clinging to the the gateway pundit for answers

Fact is he attended trump rallies, is photographed draped in a trump flag, and his father who made his gun purchase possible is a trumpanzee

Its not conclusive evidence...but it sure as hell is pointing in one direction
He went to one rally wearing a where's Waldo outfit. Much like you, he was trolling.

There's much more evidence he was a supporter of Antifa and a Socialist.

Most importantly, he was crazy as a shithouse rat.
 
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…and he didn’t use an Assault Riffle-15.
I knew something was up when the media didn’t rush out and politicians didn’t take to the airwaves to demand an AR15 ban.
Turns out he used rifle chambered in a pistol caliber…could be .40 S&W but probably 9mm.
Platform, ‘clip’ capacity, caliber don’t make a difference. They’re all assault weapons in the hands of someone with criminal intent.
 
…and he didn’t use an Assault Riffle-15.
I knew something was up when the media didn’t rush out and politicians didn’t take to the airwaves to demand an AR15 ban.
Turns out he used rifle chambered in a pistol caliber…could be .40 S&W but probably 9mm.
Platform, ‘clip’ capacity, caliber don’t make a difference. They’re all assault weapons in the hands of someone with criminal intent.
Ah so all the claims of a "High Powered Rifle" were so much bullshit.
 
He attended 2 trump rallies
Wrong again White-Boi!! This ass-clown you're putting up as a MAGA guy never attended Trump rallies like your fake news sources claim! Try again son!

 
Ah so all the claims of a "High Powered Rifle" were so much bullshit.
Yep
223 Remington has about 1200 ft-lbs of energy out of a 16 inch barrel.
9mm has about 400 ft-lbs of energy out of a 16 inch barrel…a third.
Plus the 9mm round slows down significantly and loses energy. You’d have to assume he was shooting at people 50-100 yds away and still had lethality. Take home message…stop worrying about rifle platforms, magazine capacity and bullet calibers and start enforcing gun laws.
This kids dad was a character witness for him to get these guns when he knew he was bat shit crazy. He will probably skate because the kid recently turned 21 which absolves the dad of liability…that’s bs.
 
Yep
223 Remington has about 1200 ft-lbs of energy out of a 16 inch barrel.
9mm has about 400 ft-lbs of energy out of a 16 inch barrel…a third.
Plus the 9mm round slows down significantly and loses energy. You’d have to assume he was shooting at people 50-100 yds away and still had lethality. Take home message…stop worrying about rifle platforms, magazine capacity and bullet calibers and start enforcing gun laws.
This kids dad was a character witness for him to get these guns when he knew he was bat shit crazy. He will probably skate because the kid recently turned 21 which absolves the dad of liability…that’s bs.
A .223 Remington is by no means a high powered round.

Winchester .270 - 2968 <--- My hunting rifle
Springfield .30-06 - 3178
Winchester .308 - 3009
Lapua Magnum .338 - 4768
 
Prove its fake then.

Already did on page 2 of this thread...


However, just as in those incidents, this provides a rich opportunity for others to spread hearsay, conjecture and misinformation.

In the case of Buffalo, its shooter left a wide range of right-wing extremist material online, but rumors still spread about his affiliations to groups that he did not sympathize with, like the Ukrainian army.

In Uvalde, websites such as Twitter and 4Chan helped spread fictitious claims that the culprit was a transgender immigrant, among other baseless statements.

These patterns of half- or mistruths have become something of a trend in the aftermath of mass shootings, with online detectives attempting to piece together character profiles and, in some cases, manipulate or shape the narrative for political means.

As Illinois grieves from Monday's tragedy, photos quickly spread suggesting that suspect Crimo was a Donald Trump or "MAGA" supporter, referencing photos which appear to show him at pro-Trump rallies and sporting Trump memorabilia.

In one video, it appears Crimo may have attended a gathering to see a presidential convoy, although it's not clear from the footage whether Trump was inside the motorcade or when it was shot.

These images would support the idea that Crimo sympathized with the former president and the political movements surrounding him. That said, there is no other verifiable information beyond these photos and videos that explain either the extent or intent of his admiration.

Conversely, others have suggested he had left-leaning sympathies. A series of photos we published which included references to the left-wing Antifa cause, comparing black riot gear Crimo was said to have posed with and the attire used by some Antifa supporreters.

Other Twitter users claimed they had found Crimo's Instagram account with posts containing the Antifa flag. However, these Instagram accounts haven't been verified as authentic; searching Crimo's name on Instagram also shows what appears to be a number of copycat or fraudulent accounts set up following the shooting.


Conspiracy theorist subreddits also saw a flurry of posts speculating wildly about his purported 'antifa' leanings, including posts with outright manipulation that involves bundling together several unrelated, out-of-context, or debunked images to imply a connection.
 
Already did on page 2 of this thread...


However, just as in those incidents, this provides a rich opportunity for others to spread hearsay, conjecture and misinformation.

In the case of Buffalo, its shooter left a wide range of right-wing extremist material online, but rumors still spread about his affiliations to groups that he did not sympathize with, like the Ukrainian army.

In Uvalde, websites such as Twitter and 4Chan helped spread fictitious claims that the culprit was a transgender immigrant, among other baseless statements.

These patterns of half- or mistruths have become something of a trend in the aftermath of mass shootings, with online detectives attempting to piece together character profiles and, in some cases, manipulate or shape the narrative for political means.

As Illinois grieves from Monday's tragedy, photos quickly spread suggesting that suspect Crimo was a Donald Trump or "MAGA" supporter, referencing photos which appear to show him at pro-Trump rallies and sporting Trump memorabilia.

In one video, it appears Crimo may have attended a gathering to see a presidential convoy, although it's not clear from the footage whether Trump was inside the motorcade or when it was shot.

These images would support the idea that Crimo sympathized with the former president and the political movements surrounding him. That said, there is no other verifiable information beyond these photos and videos that explain either the extent or intent of his admiration.

Conversely, others have suggested he had left-leaning sympathies. A series of photos we published which included references to the left-wing Antifa cause, comparing black riot gear Crimo was said to have posed with and the attire used by some Antifa supporreters.

Other Twitter users claimed they had found Crimo's Instagram account with posts containing the Antifa flag. However, these Instagram accounts haven't been verified as authentic; searching Crimo's name on Instagram also shows what appears to be a number of copycat or fraudulent accounts set up following the shooting.


Conspiracy theorist subreddits also saw a flurry of posts speculating wildly about his purported 'antifa' leanings, including posts with outright manipulation that involves bundling together several unrelated, out-of-context, or debunked images to imply a connection.
*supporters
Your left wing media outlet is so terrible they can't spell "supporters" 😆

@GhostOfMatchesMalone - can you name another poster who posts entire articles and not the source? I can...

So the argument here is that it's totally normal for a whacko to dress in a Where's Waldo outfit to a Trump rally. That's normal attire that Trump supporters wear, and not a troll. Riiiiight.

Then, pictures of him wearing riot gear with Antifa logos, posing with his fist in the air, etc. isn't valid because the "pages haven't been verified as authentic"? That doesn't even make sense.


Let me do the media's job for you - here's his "Awake the Rapper" Twitter page. A few tidbits:
1) Doesn't follow Trump or any conservatives - only one pic of him laughing wearing a Trump flag as a cape...it even says "Spam" in the caption, he's trolling. You should recognize it when you see it.
Follows
2) Kamala and Biden
3) Bill Gates
4) CDC
5) WaPO
6) NYT
7) Obama
8) CNN
9) Liked global warming and J6 posts
10) Went on a CDC vaccine rant, encouraging people to get vaccinated

He's a leftist, when I ask for proof I need stuff like I linked, not assumptions and conjecture.
 
*supporters
Your left wing media outlet is so terrible they can't spell "supporters" 😆

@GhostOfMatchesMalone - can you name another poster who posts entire articles and not the source? I can...

I had already posted the link on page 2 but you chose to ignore the article

I know your lazy & dumb but do your own work when its presented to you

So the argument here is that it's totally normal for a whacko to dress in a Where's Waldo outfit to a Trump rally. That's normal attire that Trump supporters wear, and not a troll. Riiiiight.

No the argument presented was much of right wing disinformation was proven to be false


Then, pictures of him wearing riot gear with Antifa logos, posing with his fist in the air, etc. isn't valid because the "pages haven't been verified as authentic"? That doesn't even make sense.

fatboy doesn't understand english... LOL


Let me do the media's job for you - here's his "Awake the Rapper" Twitter page. A few tidbits:
1) Doesn't follow Trump or any conservatives - only one pic of him laughing wearing a Trump flag as a cape...it even says "Spam" in the caption, he's trolling. You should recognize it when you see it.
Follows
2) Kamala and Biden
3) Bill Gates
4) CDC
5) WaPO
6) NYT
7) Obama
8) CNN
9) Liked global warming and J6 posts
10) Went on a CDC vaccine rant, encouraging people to get vaccinated

He's a leftist, when I ask for proof I need stuff like I linked, not assumptions and conjecture.


You linking to the debunked websites Newsweek is talking about
 
I locked this thread and posted a message pinned at the top of the Parking Lot if any of you have issues with my take feel free to reach out....
 
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