Hey y’all really want to ask somebody virus questions

[gator1776]

ask @swissgator
He’s a close personal friend of Fauci. When I wrote something describing what was gonna happen with this virus on the main board, which actually turned out to be pretty damn accurate if you go back and read it, @swissgator Supposedly showed it to Fauci who apparently attacked it and swiss attacked me multiple times. That’s the guy should be having a discussion with. I mostly agree with you guys and most of y’all are vaccinated anyway, which is the funny thing about all this.

 

[BSC911]

ask @swissgator
He’s a close personal friend of Fauci. When I wrote something describing what was gonna happen with this virus on the main board, which actually turned out to be pretty damn accurate if you go back and read it, @swissgator Supposedly showed it to Fauci who apparently attacked it and swiss attacked me multiple times. That’s the guy should be having a discussion with. I mostly agree with you guys and most of y’all are vaccinated anyway, which is the funny thing about all this.

Other than mandating vaccines, where do you and Fauci disagree?

Also, do vaccines help reduce the spread of the virus?

 

[gator1776]

Other than mandating vaccines, where do you and Fauci disagree?

Also, do vaccines help reduce the spread of the virus?

I have a stronger believe in natural immunity, I believe Vaccine should be highly encouraged and Highly pushed but mandated for healthcare workers only.
While I believe that lockdowns and shut downs have their place I think that should be handled locally and not nationally. I think they should’ve been shorter ended sooner so they would’ve been easier to re-institute in an emergency. I think there was too much of a power-play in the shut downs
I think mask have a place but again it should be handled more locally and in response to local virus levels not national mandates or strong national suggestions that aren’t legal.

I think by fighting over these things he created more of a divide in our nation than a unity. If you limit the shut downs in time frame and use the mask only when truly necessary, indoors and only when there’s a serious outbreak in your area, you get better compliance and more understanding. People are smarter than he thinks.

I do believe this virus was engineered or enhanced in the lab and I do think he’s hiding something in that regard.

I think if they were going to mandate the vaccine they should’ve done it in January or February. For them to still be pushing it now is disingenuous because we really don’t need a vaccine mandate anymore. Everybody’s either been vaccinated or had the virus now.

I think he’s a political creature as evidenced by his comments about January 6. I don’t like political bureaucrats. It clouds their scientific judgment.

In some ways he was doomed to failure because he was the scientific mouthpiece for a highly politicized virus but I don’t think he handles himself well. He comes across as arrogant and all knowing instead of intelligent caring and understanding. I think that’s an issue.

I’m not convinced vaccinating people in the age group of 5 to 11 is a good idea

I’m not convinced making kids wear mask in schools is a good idea, may be more harm than good, sometimes fear causes us to do unintelligent things.

But he’s in a tough spot because no matter how he reacted to this virus he was going to be vilified under the circumstances.

But those are areas in which I disagree with Fauci. I don’t completely agree with rand Paul, but I’m more in line with his thinking looking at the history of viral pandemics than I am Fauci’s. Always seems like there’s something Fauci is not telling us. The last sentence is speculation

 

[gator1776]

Other than mandating vaccines, where do you and Fauci disagree?

Also, do vaccines help reduce the spread of the virus?

The combination of vaccines and our collective natural immunity does slow the spread of the virus. That will not be a popular opinion on this board but it is scientific fact.

 

[NavigatorII]

I have a stronger believe in natural immunity, I believe Vaccine should be highly encouraged and Highly pushed but mandated for healthcare workers only.
While I believe that lockdowns and shut downs have their place I think that should be handled locally and not nationally. I think they should’ve been shorter ended sooner so they would’ve been easier to re-institute in an emergency. I think there was too much of a power-play in the shut downs
I think mask have a place but again it should be handled more locally and in response to local virus levels not national mandates or strong national suggestions that aren’t legal.

I think by fighting over these things he created more of a divide in our nation than a unity. If you limit the shut downs in time frame and use the mask only when truly necessary, indoors and only when there’s a serious outbreak in your area, you get better compliance and more understanding. People are smarter than he thinks.

I do believe this virus was engineered or enhanced in the lab and I do think he’s hiding something in that regard.

I think if they were going to mandate the vaccine they should’ve done it in January or February. For them to still be pushing it now is disingenuous because we really don’t need a vaccine mandate anymore. Everybody’s either been vaccinated or had the virus now.

I think he’s a political creature as evidenced by his comments about January 6. I don’t like political bureaucrats. It clouds their scientific judgment.

In some ways he was doomed to failure because he was the scientific mouthpiece for a highly politicized virus but I don’t think he handles himself well. He comes across as arrogant and all knowing instead of intelligent caring and understanding. I think that’s an issue.

I’m not convinced vaccinating people in the age group of 5 to 11 is a good idea

I’m not convinced making kids wear mask in schools is a good idea, may be more harm than good, sometimes fear causes us to do unintelligent things.

But he’s in a tough spot because no matter how he reacted to this virus he was going to be vilified under the circumstances.

But those are areas in which I disagree with Fauci. I don’t completely agree with rand Paul, but I’m more in line with his thinking looking at the history of viral pandemics than I am Fauci’s. Always seems like there’s something Fauci is not telling us. The last sentence is speculation

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

ask @swissgator
He’s a close personal friend of Fauci. When I wrote something describing what was gonna happen with this virus on the main board, which actually turned out to be pretty damn accurate if you go back and read it, @swissgator Supposedly showed it to Fauci who apparently attacked it and swiss attacked me multiple times. That’s the guy should be having a discussion with. I mostly agree with you guys and most of y’all are vaccinated anyway, which is the funny thing about all this.

You must not like this guy if you’re siccing us on him.

 

[gator1776]

You must not like this guy if you’re siccing us on him.

I actually don’t dislike @swissgator
But he was very unprofessional and unpleasant towards me, so of course I’m gonna stick you guys on him

 

[BSC911]

The combination of vaccines and our collective natural immunity does slow the spread of the virus. That will not be a popular opinion on this board but it is scientific fact.

But what about those European soccer players @fatman76 keeps talking about?

 

[gator1776]

But what about those European soccer players @fatman76 keeps talking about?

Well you don’t do scientific research off a tweet or a story from a non-scientist. You would have to seriously sit down and look at the numbers and find out what percentage are vaccinated or percentage may have actually had Covid prior to vaccination was there a casual affect. We know the vaccine can cause myocarditis because of the spike proteins but Covid causes far more cases of myocarditis in young athletes in the vaccine does. So you can’t just take information like that and make drastic sweeping conclusions like he’s doing.
Is there an association between the vaccine and myocarditis, yes. Is it life-threatening or more dangerous than the virus itself, based off the statistics that are available, no.

In the end none of us invented Covid, pandemics come around every hundred years, what we’re better right now is fighting the pandemic. Remember the 1918 influenza pandemic killed anywhere from 50 to 100,000,000 people in the population back then was closer to 2 billion for the entire world.

last time I checked Covid has killed three or 4 million worldwide out of a total population of over 8 billion. Clearly we are much better now at combating global pandemics then we were 100 years ago and a great deal that has to do with how quickly we developed three highly effective vaccines.

Everything you put in your body has potential consequences. Covid infection carries a cumulative 1.8% mortality rate in the United States. Getting the Covid vaccine carries a cumulative 0.00001% risk of mortality and even that’s debatable.

Those numbers become closer together under the age of 20. You can make the best decision for you.

 

[NorthJerseyGator]

Well you don’t do scientific research off a tweet or a story from a non-scientist. You would have to seriously sit down and look at the numbers and find out what percentage are vaccinated or percentage may have actually had Covid prior to vaccination was there a casual affect. We know the vaccine can cause myocarditis because of the spike proteins but Covid causes far more cases of myocarditis in young athletes in the vaccine does. So you can’t just take information like that and make drastic sweeping conclusions like he’s doing.
Is there an association between the vaccine and myocarditis, yes. Is it life-threatening or more dangerous than the virus itself, based off the statistics that are available, no.

In the end none of us invented Covid, pandemics come around every hundred years, what we’re better right now is fighting the pandemic. Remember the 1918 influenza pandemic killed anywhere from 50 to 100,000,000 people in the population back then was closer to 2 billion for the entire world.

last time I checked Covid has killed three or 4 million worldwide out of a total population of over 8 billion. Clearly we are much better now at combating global pandemics then we were 100 years ago and a great deal that has to do with how quickly we developed three highly effective vaccines.

Everything you put in your body has potential consequences. Covid infection carries a cumulative 1.8% mortality rate in the United States. Getting the Covid vaccine carries a cumulative 0.00001% risk of mortality and even that’s debatable.

Those numbers become closer together under the age of 20. You can make the best decision for you.

The last sentence is the end all be all for me on this topic, has been the whole time. Everything in life is case by case.

 

[NorthJerseyGator]

ask @swissgator
He’s a close personal friend of Fauci. When I wrote something describing what was gonna happen with this virus on the main board, which actually turned out to be pretty damn accurate if you go back and read it, @swissgator Supposedly showed it to Fauci who apparently attacked it and swiss attacked me multiple times. That’s the guy should be having a discussion with. I mostly agree with you guys and most of y’all are vaccinated anyway, which is the funny thing about all this.

The Gators Track & Field updates guy is close with Fauci you say? 🤔🤣. I haven't been in the pay board in a while but that's all he ever posted about years ago, lol. Now his claim to fame is FOF eh....Friend of Fauci....🤣.

 

[BSC911]

The Gators Track & Field updates guy is close with Fauci you say? 🤔🤣. I haven't been in the pay board in a while but that's all he ever posted about years ago, lol. Now his claim to fame is FOF eh....Friend of Fauci....🤣.

He follows all Gator sports.

Fauci is not the devil. He may be wrong at times, but he has a good track record overall.

 

[gator1776]

The last sentence is the end all be all for me on this topic, has been the whole time. Everything in life is case by case.

In general it is but I do strongly encourage you get the vaccine because it truly lower your risk of dying and as far safer than the virus itself. But I’ve never been one to mandate something like this. And I really don’t think it’s necessary to mandate anymore because enough people have been vaccinated or not people have gotten Covid that we should be safe from pandemics of the scale we saw this summer from this virus ever again..

Let’s pray I’m right

 

[gator1776]

The Gators Track & Field updates guy is close with Fauci you say? 🤔🤣. I haven't been in the pay board in a while but that's all he ever posted about years ago, lol. Now his claim to fame is FOF eh....Friend of Fauci....🤣.

True story. @FresnoGator Came back me up on that one

 

[gator1776]

He follows all Gator sports.

Fauci is not the devil. He may be wrong at times, but he has a good track record overall.

Being fair I’d give him a C+. Not terrible but not as good as it needs to be. Just my medical opinion

 

[FresnoGator]

True story. @FresnoGator Came back me up on that one

Yep, when you referred to it as a "wonderfully mild pandemic", both swiss and fauci melted down.

 

[gator1776]

Yep, when you referred to it as a "wonderfully mild pandemic", both swiss and fauci melted down.

And, historically, I’m still correct, LOL

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

If swissgator read the stuff Ghosts posts, his head would explode.

And, that’s probably why 1776, agent provocateur, is trying to play matchmaker. It’s like putting two siamese fighting fish in the same fishbowl.

 

[instaGATOR]

On Thursday, the Washington Post published a leaked internal report from researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warning of mass community spread of COVID-19 among vaccinated people.

The secret report contradicts nearly every public statement by the White House over the course of the past two months. Bringing together a broad range of public research—including some that was previously unpublished—the report warns that there are 35,000 symptomatic COVID-19 infections every week among vaccinated people.

The document refutes President Joe Biden’s claim on July 22 that vaccinated people cannot be infected with COVID-19—“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”

It is unclear how the internal CDC document was leaked to the Washington Post. It remains the case, however, that it was not released by the CDC or Biden administration, and the CDC declined to comment on its publication to the Post—indicating that its leadership opposed its release to the public.

Dr Faulty is both a liar and incompetent as a Dr. He should be in jail for up to 5 years, just for lying to Congress, if we still had a functioning DoJ.
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Both HCQ and Ivermectin are now proven cures. Those that have covered up and/or lied about that fact should also be in jail. Well over 6,000 (that we know of) have died from taking the vaccine.

You want to know how bad the vaccines really are, go here and see for yourself...

The hidden Covid-19 vaccine-injured | Sharyl Attkisson

sharylattkisson.com

 

[NorthJerseyGator]

In general it is but I do strongly encourage you get the vaccine because it truly lower your risk of dying and as far safer than the virus itself. But I’ve never been one to mandate something like this. And I really don’t think it’s necessary to mandate anymore because enough people have been vaccinated or not people have gotten Covid that we should be safe from pandemics of the scale we saw this summer from this virus ever again..

Let’s pray I’m right

My 43 year old buddy died from the vax so I'm good. He's just one of the vast many around the world that have been eradicated by the vax. So it's not just internet research for me, it hit me quite close. I had brain surgery, radiation, and chemo since covid started so I ain't putting anymore chemical cocktails in my body for the time being. I'll await what happens with that Maryland based company and their more all natural based vax before anything. Prayer is key as God, Jesus, Holy Spirit can guide each and every one of us to do what we need to do at the right time.

 

[instaGATOR]

Once again, it's the ole politicians 'Do as we say, not as we do' flim-flam....

Dr. Pierre Kory of Frontline Doctors recently tweeted this — “Between 100-200 United States Congress Members (plus many of their staffers and family members) with COVID.. were treated by a colleague over the past 15 months with Ivermectin & the I-MASK+ protocol. None have gone to hospital.”

Frontline Doc claims 100-200 Members of Congress treated with Ivermectin

Thinkcivics Newswire Dr. Pierre Kory of Frontline Doctors recently tweeted this — “Between 100-200 United States Congress Members (plus many of their staffers and family members) with COVID.. were …

stuartbramhall.wordpress.com

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Last Updated: February 11, 2021
Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies. It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock. For these indications, Ivermectin has been widely used and is generally well tolerated. Some studies of Ivermectin have also reported potential anti-inflammatory properties, which have been postulated to be beneficial in people with COVID-19. Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.
Note: Don't use the Vet's animal version (horse de-wormer) for humans. Well Duh...
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Don't trust the above, then how about a 2nd opinion:
Dr. Bruce Boros, a 71-year-old cardiologist, reportedly said that he and his wife had been on Ivermectin for 16 months. “I have never felt healthier in my life.”

Boros, of Key West, told the Miami Herald in September 2020 that he had been giving ivermectin to COVID patients. He owns and operates the Keys’ three Advanced Urgent Care clinics. He goes on a tear against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health for promoting the current COVID vaccines such as Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson.

“Big Pharma is making BILLIONS on poison jabs! They don’t care to track bad outcomes for jabs because they don’t want their financial gravy train disrupted. Nobody has the money to fight them. Finally. DO NOT JAB CHILDREN!” he posted. “REJECT AUTHORITARIAN MEDICINE.”

 

[NorthJerseyGator]

If swissgator read the stuff Ghosts posts, his head would explode.

And, that’s probably why 1776, agent provocateur, is trying to play matchmaker. It’s like putting two siamese fighting fish in the same fishbowl.

That is some Pay-Per-View Saturday night action I'd chip in for 🤣.....Ghost vs Swiss for the World Champ Heavyweight belt in a covid debate square off.....are you ready to rumble!!!! 🤣

 

[gator1776]

My 43 year old buddy died from the vax so I'm good. He's just one of the vast many around the world that have been eradicated by the vax. So it's not just internet research for me, it hit me quite close. I had brain surgery, radiation, and chemo since covid started so I ain't putting anymore chemical cocktails in my body for the time being. I'll await what happens with that Maryland based company and their more all natural based vax before anything. Prayer is key as God, Jesus, Holy Spirit can guide each and every one of us to do what we need to do at the right time.

If you say so, sorry for your loss.

 

[gator1776]

If swissgator read the stuff Ghosts posts, his head would explode.

And, that’s probably why 1776, agent provocateur, is trying to play matchmaker. It’s like putting two siamese fighting fish in the same fishbowl.

Shhhhhh

 

[fatman76]

I have a stronger believe in natural immunity, I believe Vaccine should be highly encouraged and Highly pushed but mandated for healthcare workers only.
While I believe that lockdowns and shut downs have their place I think that should be handled locally and not nationally. I think they should’ve been shorter ended sooner so they would’ve been easier to re-institute in an emergency. I think there was too much of a power-play in the shut downs
I think mask have a place but again it should be handled more locally and in response to local virus levels not national mandates or strong national suggestions that aren’t legal.

I think by fighting over these things he created more of a divide in our nation than a unity. If you limit the shut downs in time frame and use the mask only when truly necessary, indoors and only when there’s a serious outbreak in your area, you get better compliance and more understanding. People are smarter than he thinks.

I do believe this virus was engineered or enhanced in the lab and I do think he’s hiding something in that regard.

I think if they were going to mandate the vaccine they should’ve done it in January or February. For them to still be pushing it now is disingenuous because we really don’t need a vaccine mandate anymore. Everybody’s either been vaccinated or had the virus now.

I think he’s a political creature as evidenced by his comments about January 6. I don’t like political bureaucrats. It clouds their scientific judgment.

In some ways he was doomed to failure because he was the scientific mouthpiece for a highly politicized virus but I don’t think he handles himself well. He comes across as arrogant and all knowing instead of intelligent caring and understanding. I think that’s an issue.

I’m not convinced vaccinating people in the age group of 5 to 11 is a good idea

I’m not convinced making kids wear mask in schools is a good idea, may be more harm than good, sometimes fear causes us to do unintelligent things.

But he’s in a tough spot because no matter how he reacted to this virus he was going to be vilified under the circumstances.

But those are areas in which I disagree with Fauci. I don’t completely agree with rand Paul, but I’m more in line with his thinking looking at the history of viral pandemics than I am Fauci’s. Always seems like there’s something Fauci is not telling us. The last sentence is speculation

I can’t argue with anything you said here, except for mandates for anyone. It’s costing health care jobs when we need them the most.

 

[gator1776]

I can’t argue with anything you said here, except for mandates for anyone. It’s costing health care jobs when we need them the most.

The reason for mandates for healthcare workers is because we are in a unique position to spread the disease and create local epidemics. We have multiple incidences in the hospital that I work where an unvaccinated nurse contracted and then spread Covid to several other nurses and patients. That is why it is the one area where mandated vaccines is reasonable.

 

[instaGATOR]

If you want more info on the Ivermectin I-MASK+ Protocol, use the link.

Treatment Protocols

Prevention and treatment protocols for COVID, Flu and RSV.

covid19criticalcare.com

 

[instaGATOR]

The reason for mandates for healthcare workers is because we are in a unique position to spread the disease and create local epidemics. We have multiple incidences in the hospital that I work where an unvaccinated nurse contracted and then spread Covid to several other nurses and patients.

That's just yet another total crock of shit from the 1776 QUACK 😷

(CDC) warning of mass community spread of COVID-19 among vaccinated people, "there are 35,000 symptomatic COVID-19 infections every week among vaccinated people."

The vaccines don't stop you from getting it,,, OR from spreading it....