Grier loses appeal
- Thread starter GatorGray
- Start date
Time for the university to take the fuktard NCAA to the mat this time though a court of law. Those assholes put UF through the ringer twice including throwing Galen Hall under the bus for BS. Sue those assholes for everything they got.
Because? They did enforce the rules. Grier knew he took something he should not have taken. He did not run it by the trainers first as is every P5 school's policy. Sucks for him that he cannot play, but as Coach Mc has said many times....It is the players who make the choices. The rules are there and so is the appropriate discipline. Next man up.
Cannot argue with this.
It is a shame Grier was not accused of raping a girl, or smoking pot. He would still be playing if that were the case.
He admitted it in his brief news conference.http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14181891/will-grier-florida-gators-loses-appeal-ncaa-suspension
He just texted me.Gonna go to Tally to **** nolies right in the pussy and take all the crabs legs he wants. Non consensual on either agenda.
And that's absurd to me.
If PEDs are bad for the "integrity of the game," what the hell about DUIs, drugs, and violence?
After he tested positive. Your initial post alluded he knew he was taking something illegal which is why the appeal was denied. As an FYI, the NCAA appeal conditions make a provision for Student Athletes who unknowingly take something with an illegal substance.
And you wondered why power conferences have threatened the douchebag NCAA with dumping their asses and forming their own legislative power? That will likely happen in our lifetimes, these douchenozzles have outlived their collective usefulness much like labor unions. They have attempted to kill the fatted calf, and the landholders will soon lynch these douchenozzles. Hell, even the nolies understand this. The number of ejected DB's for targeting are atrocious for both schools. They've been "targeted" for the same retardness. These NCAA asshats need to be put in the corner with the dunce cap on.
He knew he did not follow policy when taking a supplement. Did he know that specific item was banned? Maybe or maybe not, he only knows that question. What he did know was the proper procedure before ingesting any otc supplements, etc. That procedure was to run everything through the medical staff first. He failed to do so. No one else to blame.
Problem is one has to go through the justice system in the latter situations. First, the police have to actually press charges and do a thorough a investigation. Second, the SA must then actually take the case without reducing it drastically or dropping it all together. Third, a judge or jury must actually find him guilty....if it even makes it that far.
In the former, you test positive and you get the penalty that is written in the rules, period, done. Positive: No chance to manipulate the system if you actually did it. Negative: No opportunity to have an independent group 'hear' the case. If you cannot prove there was a problem with the administration of the test or some other procedural or process breakdown then the ruling will always stand. He knew it and there is just not much he can do, but sit for the full year.
I have read your nonsense...er...uh posts for a couple years, even on the other site. You have a decent understanding of the whole college football thing but act much more knowledgable than you are; ironically, that's why I read your posts -- for the train wreck effect. Your logic is because he violated a school policy the NCAA should ban him? It's apples and oranges. A failed NCAA test carries NCAA sanctions. Not following a program policy carries program sanctions.
Ergo, the program policy is irrelevant. If he unknowingly took a legal supplement with an NCAA banned ingredient and appealed, which the NCAA makes provisions for in their conditions of appeal, why would they uphold the suspension?
You keep saying this as if to justify the denial of the appeal. Let me help you out. If you fail an NCAA drug test you have two conditions under which you can file an appeal (paraphrasing):
1. The test was flawed or there was a procedural issue.
2. You unknowingly took something that was banned,
He appealed under condition 2. What he found out, or, as you say, "knew" after the failed test is irrelevant.
Are you asking my opinion as to whether the punishment fits the offense? That is a different matter. I am talking about Grier violating the NCAA policy, not merely the school policy. The school policy is in place to protect him and other athletes from violating the NCAA policy. He(they) can either follow that school policy and avoid a possible suspension or ignore it and face the consequences if he is one of the randomly selected players to be tested. In this case, he knew the school policy and chose to ignore it. It is pretty simple.
Jamies just said eff all that and screamed, where all da white wimmins be at?
See how damn stupid you sound? See the last statement. That's basically what you just said in nullspeak.
Don't act like it didn't happen, and get a slap on the wrist. If justice were done, he'd be breaking rocks in Sing Sing.
They ban legal contracts between players and agents. And they ban any number of very legal transactions and behaviors.
It is the rules.
Time to move on
Again, the NCAA has rules for PEDs and illegal benefits( for a whole year? Jesus) but for everything else that an athlete does off the field (terrible things) there's no mandate?
Again, I just find that absurd and I don't care what team it is.
Again, I just find that absurd and I don't care what team it is.
I was hoping for something different, but not figuring it likely. When reading the NCAA appeal verbiage, it's pretty clear the NCAA never really wants to reduce a penalty unless a member institution wants to fall on the sword, subjecting itself to the NCAA stink-eye. There is room for extenuating circumstances, which Will's case doesn't fall into.
Individuals and teams deal with adversity every day. Will and the program will make it through this as well.
Individuals and teams deal with adversity every day. Will and the program will make it through this as well.
Fck the NCAA.........I was ok for the rest of this year but until the 7th games seems harsh..........But we will survive it........we are on the Mac train heading toward excellence.....
It sucks, but he put himself in a position to become the NCAA poster child for PED's. The outcome of this case was about much more than Grier himself. They are clearly using the opportunity to send a strong message.
My understanding is that is left up to the individual institutions.
Think about this:
JT Barrett -- maliciously attempts to avoid a DUI checkpoint
JT Barrett -- illegally driving under the influence
JT Barrett -- unethically putting innocent lives at risk
Misses 1-game and could lose scholarship money for the summer semester.
Not specifically. But, i'll go out on a limb here and say if it was an illegal substance there would have been no appeal filed.
Similar threads
