That play sucked, but it was in the College Football playoffs. You played in the Birmingham Bowl against East Carolina where one of your players took a massive dump in his pants.
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UF's 2015 scheduled D2 Opponents = ZERO D2's
UF's 2014 D2 Opponent = E.Ky
UF's 2013 D2 Opponent was GaSo, their LAST game before moving to D1 Sun Belt and going 9-3.
UF's 2012 D2 Opponent = Jacksonville State
While UF plays 8-9 home/away games against the TOUGHEST conference in the NCAA.
UF, unlike FSUcks, does not play 2 D2 in a single season.
UF, unlike FSUcks, has removed ALL D2's from their schedule.
FSUcks 2015 D2 Opponent - Chattanoooooga the week before UF,
plus their usual All Cupcakes.
FSUcks 2014 D2 Opponent - The Citadel -
Plus: 3-9 WF, 3-9 Syracuse
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman -
Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF.
* FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State,
plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.
** While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
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TWITSLOSE, I can't say that I G-a-S what you think about what I post here. You see, unlike you, I'm on the Gator message board, not the horrant DOT.com board.
And if UF never helps the criminoles SoS, then it would be a favor to both of us to have the FSUcks criminoles off of the Gator schedule as soon as possible.
Agreed?
UF's 2015 scheduled D2 Opponents = ZERO D2's
UF's 2014 D2 Opponent = E.Ky
UF's 2013 D2 Opponent was GaSo, their LAST game before moving to D1 Sun Belt and going 9-3.
UF's 2012 D2 Opponent = Jacksonville State
While UF plays 8-9 home/away games against the TOUGHEST conference in the NCAA.
UF, unlike FSUcks, does not play 2 D2 in a single season.
UF, unlike FSUcks, has removed ALL D2's from their schedule.
FSUcks 2015 D2 Opponent - Chattanoooooga the week before UF,
plus their usual All Cupcakes.
FSUcks 2014 D2 Opponent - The Citadel -
Plus: 3-9 WF, 3-9 Syracuse
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman -
Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF.
* FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State,
plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.
** While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
WVU backed out of our game last minute and we were forced to schedule a second D2 team to fill the gap. It wasn't ideal, because only one of those wins counted towards bowl eligibility. You know, if a team is in the position where they need to worry about that kind of thing.
I realize UF has more money than FSU but are you in the business of purposely giving it away? I'm going to guess not. Assuming you are though who do you replace us with that brings revenue to Gainesville every other year like we do all the while having somewhat of a geographical draw?
That's only partially true. Only when you're good do we have to have you on the schedule. The last couple of years, you have actually hurt our SOS.
I think you misunderstood my quote. I said "WE" do not need you.
Other than for mockery, I really do not care much if FSU think we adds to their schedule or not.
Not that I would want to do this, but replacing FSU with teams that do not require a home and home would financially benefit Florida and Gainesville.
Please share with us how paying $500K to some arthroscopic nursing college for the blind (along with there 63 fans) will "financially benefit Florida and Gainesville?"
UF isn't Nebraska or Ohio State. The swamp was half empty for the rent a victim games the last few years. Especially toward the end of disappointing seasons.
And it certainly wouldn't help Gainesville's economy. Are you serious? Having Idaho coming doesn't do anything for Gainesville.
Oh Dear.
Add up the number of seats in BHGS. Multiply by the ticket price (use an average). Estimate % of capacity and then multiply. Subtract $500k.
If amount is greater than zero, then PROFIT
Not even including concessions and apparel sales. Plus the benefit to the Gainesville area.
Consecutive home games are always a better deal than home and home series
Add up the number of seats in BHGS. Multiply by the ticket price (use an average). Estimate % of capacity and then multiply. Subtract $500k.
If amount is greater than zero, then PROFIT
Not even including concessions and apparel sales. Plus the benefit to the Gainesville area.
Consecutive home games are always a better deal than home and home series
Bull butter! Gators show up even when it's Career Point College.
That pic could have been an hour before a game for all we know, but thanks for your propaganda. --passoverGator
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Then why don't you make it happen big guy?? Pull some strings since you must be a really important Bull Gator booster? Or maybe you're sadly not and just a big talker...I'd gladly dump the game in Tallycrappy to go play a quality OoS/OoC team if we could get rid of the crinimoles to open up our schedule. I still think that the only way that UF should ever play ACC FSU & Miami is in a bowl or in the new playoffs.
Had either of those chicken-chits wanted a game with UF during the regular season, then they should have put on the Big Boy Pads and joined the SEC when they were invited. Since they instead chose to take advantage of the All Cupcake Conference, then that's who they should be playing, along with their usual 1-2 D2 opponents....
No one said anything to the contrary. I think the dialogue was referring to attendance. Try to keep up.
MJ (et al),
My attendance post is not indented as smack, so allow me to clarify before we dive down another rabbit hole.
First off, I completely understand and agree with your premise that consecutive home games would do more for UF financially than a home-home series. My contention is, though, that you would have to sell those games out. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening year-in and year-out. Most fans don't care much to witness a match-up with a significantly inferior opponent (which is what UF would be scheduling each year in order to achieve this). You already have New Mexico State, East Carolina, and Florida Atlantic on your schedule, do you really want to add (and pay for) Valdosta State?
That's not what fans want. The UF/FSU games sell out every single year. Game-day (smack) shirts are purchased (see below), hotels are sold out, concessions are maximized, etc. I don't think anyone is going to buy a UF/Texas State t-shirt any more than a Nole is going to (see this weekend's game).
In today's world of declining football attendance (across the board), schools need to look more at bolstering their schedules and in-stadium experience, not diminishing it. IMO, I wish the NCAA would prevent FBS schools from scheduling FCS schools. That still leaves us with the New Mexico States of the FBS, but you can't really believe that's what fans want.
Fans want:
FSU vs UF
UF vs Miami
Bama vs Wisc
Mich vs ND
OSU vs VaTech
etc.
That's all I'm saying, MJ...bigger match-ups = more $$
My attendance post is not indented as smack, so allow me to clarify before we dive down another rabbit hole.
First off, I completely understand and agree with your premise that consecutive home games would do more for UF financially than a home-home series. My contention is, though, that you would have to sell those games out. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening year-in and year-out. Most fans don't care much to witness a match-up with a significantly inferior opponent (which is what UF would be scheduling each year in order to achieve this). You already have New Mexico State, East Carolina, and Florida Atlantic on your schedule, do you really want to add (and pay for) Valdosta State?
That's not what fans want. The UF/FSU games sell out every single year. Game-day (smack) shirts are purchased (see below), hotels are sold out, concessions are maximized, etc. I don't think anyone is going to buy a UF/Texas State t-shirt any more than a Nole is going to (see this weekend's game).
In today's world of declining football attendance (across the board), schools need to look more at bolstering their schedules and in-stadium experience, not diminishing it. IMO, I wish the NCAA would prevent FBS schools from scheduling FCS schools. That still leaves us with the New Mexico States of the FBS, but you can't really believe that's what fans want.
Fans want:
FSU vs UF
UF vs Miami
Bama vs Wisc
Mich vs ND
OSU vs VaTech
etc.
That's all I'm saying, MJ...bigger match-ups = more $$
But let's go with your point. Let's assume only half of the stadium pays for tickets. The stadium seats, what, 88k people? Half of that is 44k? Assume the lowest possible ticket price of $25. Well, I assume even with an FSU education, you can do that math.
Still a profit, especially when considering concession and apparel sales.
What IS it with you Nole fans that you have to insist, INSIST that FSU means so much to us? You insist that you do not have the inferior complex, but most every one of your posts, and most every post from your brethren all say otherwise.
The game is important. But not from a financial standpoint. Or a SOS standpoint. In fact, if it wasn't such a long standing rivalry, we might do well to look elsewhere.
Still a profit, especially when considering concession and apparel sales.
What IS it with you Nole fans that you have to insist, INSIST that FSU means so much to us? You insist that you do not have the inferior complex, but most every one of your posts, and most every post from your brethren all say otherwise.
The game is important. But not from a financial standpoint. Or a SOS standpoint. In fact, if it wasn't such a long standing rivalry, we might do well to look elsewhere.
Translation. I am incapable of just having a conversation about football. You are the one bringing insults to the topic (I assure you my math skills are up to UF's standards). You are the one making this more than what it is.
This ISN'T about FSU/UF, MJ. It's about the premise of your statement that UF would be better off removing a home-home with a P5 (FSU happens to be that school) school and replacing it with a lower-tier team. I disagree whole-hardheartedly that it's not in UF's favor. I challenge you to present your business plan at the next UF booster function and see what type of response you get. Basically, you want to take the fans' money (seats sold vs seats sat) and give them crap in return. How long do you really think this OOC model will last:
Home - New Mexico State
Home - Jacksonville State
Home - Idaho
Home - FAMU
You honestly think that will aid UF in raking in the cash?
Point #1 - Notice that I'm not on an reFSUcks criminole board with this.
UF's 2015 scheduled D2 Opponents = ZERO D2's
UF's 2014 D2 Opponent = E.Ky
UF's 2013 D2 Opponent was GaSo, their LAST game before moving to D1 Sun Belt and going 9-3 in 2014.
UF's 2012 D2 Opponent = Jacksonville State
While UF plays 8-9 home/away games against the TOUGHEST conference in the NCAA.
FSUcks 2015 D2 Opponent - Chattanoooooga the week before UF, plus their usual All Cupcakes. (while FL-Atl is not usually a tough opponent, they are at least a D1)
FSUcks 2014 D2 Opponent - The Citadel - Plus: 3-9 WF, 3-9 Syracuse
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman - Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF. The criminoles get a BCS-NC vs the #69 SoS.
FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State, plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.....
While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
UF's 2015 scheduled D2 Opponents = ZERO D2's
UF's 2014 D2 Opponent = E.Ky
UF's 2013 D2 Opponent was GaSo, their LAST game before moving to D1 Sun Belt and going 9-3 in 2014.
UF's 2012 D2 Opponent = Jacksonville State
While UF plays 8-9 home/away games against the TOUGHEST conference in the NCAA.
FSUcks 2015 D2 Opponent - Chattanoooooga the week before UF, plus their usual All Cupcakes. (while FL-Atl is not usually a tough opponent, they are at least a D1)
FSUcks 2014 D2 Opponent - The Citadel - Plus: 3-9 WF, 3-9 Syracuse
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman - Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF. The criminoles get a BCS-NC vs the #69 SoS.
FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State, plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.....
While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
Insta,
I've already admitted I think the NCAA should disallow the scheduling of FCS opponents. Zero exceptions.
That said, I stick to my guns that more cross-conference P5 match-ups, the better. It's the only way to truly assess conference strength (that and bowl games) AND it's what the fans want. Fans will come in droves to see UF play Oregon, Michigan, FSU, Va Tech, Miami, USC, etc...much moreso than Idaho and New Mexico State.
FSU's 2014 schedule was set up to do that as well as the coming schedules (Bama, Ole Miss, etc.). My prayer is that FSU's 2014 schedule is more the exception than the rule.
I've already admitted I think the NCAA should disallow the scheduling of FCS opponents. Zero exceptions.
That said, I stick to my guns that more cross-conference P5 match-ups, the better. It's the only way to truly assess conference strength (that and bowl games) AND it's what the fans want. Fans will come in droves to see UF play Oregon, Michigan, FSU, Va Tech, Miami, USC, etc...much moreso than Idaho and New Mexico State.
FSU's 2014 schedule was set up to do that as well as the coming schedules (Bama, Ole Miss, etc.). My prayer is that FSU's 2014 schedule is more the exception than the rule.
Point #1 - Notice that I'm not on an reFSUcks criminole board with this.
UF's 2013 D2 Opponent was GaSo, their LAST game before moving to D1 Sun Belt and going 9-3 in 2014.
al-nole, this is the kind of SoS's that the criminoles are famous (in-famous) for and you know it.
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman - Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF. The criminoles get a BCS-NC vs the #69 SoS.
FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State, plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.....
While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
And it's what your school wanted, or they would have joined the SEC instead of the cupcakes. Now live with it.
The crims and the scUM's that constantly harp about UF needing to play them are spewing absolute and TOTAL BS!!!
Plus I can go around the P5 and show you their scheduled opponents are just as weak, usually much worse, than UF's ever is. Go review tOSU's or ND's for instance.
PS
Gator rivals like to harp that UF doesn't go 'Out of State' to play any quality OoC opponents, so UF playing FSU and/or Miami gives us no credit with any of them. They are just as FoS as the crim.s and scum's of the world are, as far as SoS yappin' goes.
UF played the #1 SoS in the Nation in 1996 and beat the #1 ranked and undefeated team by 32 pts for the mNC.
Show me another team that has done anything even close to that....
UF's 2006 and 2008 BCS-NC were against the #1 ranked team that was QB'ed by the Heisman QB (T.Smith - S.Bradford), and beat them both by double digits. Both times the Gators were playing against season Top 10 SoS's.
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman - Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF. The criminoles get a BCS-NC vs the #69 SoS.
FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State, plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.....
While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
And it's what your school wanted, or they would have joined the SEC instead of the cupcakes. Now live with it.
The crims and the scUM's that constantly harp about UF needing to play them are spewing absolute and TOTAL BS!!!
Plus I can go around the P5 and show you their scheduled opponents are just as weak, usually much worse, than UF's ever is. Go review tOSU's or ND's for instance.
PS
Gator rivals like to harp that UF doesn't go 'Out of State' to play any quality OoC opponents, so UF playing FSU and/or Miami gives us no credit with any of them. They are just as FoS as the crim.s and scum's of the world are, as far as SoS yappin' goes.
UF played the #1 SoS in the Nation in 1996 and beat the #1 ranked and undefeated team by 32 pts for the mNC.
Show me another team that has done anything even close to that....
UF's 2006 and 2008 BCS-NC were against the #1 ranked team that was QB'ed by the Heisman QB (T.Smith - S.Bradford), and beat them both by double digits. Both times the Gators were playing against season Top 10 SoS's.
al-nole, this is the kind of SoS's that the criminoles are famous (in-famous) for and you know it.
FSUcks 2013 D2 Opponent - Bethune-Cookman - Plus 1-11 Idaho, 3-9 NCSt, 4-8 Nev, 4-8 WF. The criminoles get a BCS-NC vs the #69 SoS.
FSUcks 2012 D2 Opponents - Murray State AND Savannah State, plus 2-10 BC, 3-9 USF, 4-8 Maryland.....
While playing 7-7 GaTech for the All Cupcake Championship and winning by only 6 pts, (21-15).
And it's what your school wanted, or they would have joined the SEC instead of the cupcakes. Now live with it.
The crims and the scUM's that constantly harp about UF needing to play them are spewing absolute and TOTAL BS!!!
Plus I can go around the P5 and show you their scheduled opponents are just as weak, usually much worse, than UF's ever is. Go review tOSU's or ND's for instance.
PS
Gator rivals like to harp that UF doesn't go 'Out of State' to play any quality OoC opponents, so UF playing FSU and/or Miami gives us no credit with any of them. They are just as FoS as the crim.s and scum's of the world are, as far as SoS yappin' goes.
UF played the #1 SoS in the Nation in 1996 and beat the #1 ranked and undefeated team by 32 pts for the mNC.
Show me another team that has done anything even close to that....
UF's 2006 and 2008 BCS-NC were against the #1 ranked team that was QB'ed by the Heisman QB (T.Smith - S.Bradford), and beat them both by double digits. Both times the Gators were playing against season Top 10 SoS's.
Sounds like you guys are working harder for the same results--3 titles.
Conclusion--FSU is more efficient.
My response whenever I think about some twit that's school chose to be in an Almost Competitive Conference telling me anything about SoS's.
UF lost to GaSo in the 6th game of a 7 game losing streak, while suffering an NCAA all time worst 72 lost starts to injury. Sorry, but that doesn't embarrass me nearly as much as if my Undefeated and #1 Ranked team had lost a mNC game by 32 pts....
