Cold places with high concentrations of population. Not a good combination.
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Cold places with high concentrations of population. Not a good combination.
Just because New York is worse doesn't mean that California isnt bad...Florida..texas...whatever. 10,000 cases aren't anything to play around with. Especially since it is something still in its early stages.
East Baton Rouge Parrish, LA has 500 cases and 64 year old plus make up only 9.9% of the population. Jefferson Parrish has 2,200 cases and age 65 plus only make up 10%of the population.
You do know statewide in Louisiana that there are 1,500 cases of ages 30/39 vs 1,500 cases of ages 70+? Total 50 up has 5,100 cases while 49 under is 4,220? Its not only old people getting it in Louisiana.
Despite what New York has...Cali, Florida, and Louisiana have too many cases and all are warm weather climates.
Also why does hot azz Panama doing sporting 2,000 cases. Does it ever even drop below 80° there during the day? All old people right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there are a lot of cases of 'jock itch' too. 
But as long as IT'S NOT FATAL, GET OVER IT ALREADY...
Try keeping in mind that only a tiny percentage of those that have it, die from it.
But as long as IT'S NOT FATAL, GET OVER IT ALREADY...
Try keeping in mind that only a tiny percentage of those that have it, die from it.
Here's an excerpt from an article written by Larry C. Johnson, a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. He is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group):Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there are a lot of cases of 'jock itch' too.
But as long as IT'S NOT FATAL, GET OVER IT ALREADY...
Try keeping in mind that only a tiny percentage of those that have it, die from it.
"The raw numbers for Corona, when compared to other infectious diseases, raises some legitimate questions about the disproportionate global panic.
As of 10pm edt on April 1, 2020 there are 935,817 “cases” (i.e., people who have tested positive). The key number is the number of deaths–47,208.
How does that stack up with other infectious diseases?
Influenza–the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated the annual mortality burden of influenza to be 250, 000 to 500 000 all-cause deaths globally.
Tuberculosis–1.3 million deaths per year (see here).
Malaria–403,000 deaths.
Why is it that we can live normal lives with diseases such as Influenza, Tuberculosis and Malaria swirling around us but go into complete shutdown over Corona?
Your points well taken.
The key could be the highly contagious nature of the disease. Left unchecked it could affect virtually everyone.
The key could be the highly contagious nature of the disease. Left unchecked it could affect virtually everyone.
Hope you are wearing protective gear , you crazy old coot...
Fair question but Malaria map(isn't one transmitted from mosquito bites and the other from touching shopping carts?)
COVID-19 map
Sweden appears to be going for the herd immunity approach. Much different than how we have handled it here. I will be curious to see how it plays out once we are on the other side of this.
There's no scientific evidence of that. Do we shut down the world based on coulds and maybes? The fact that there isn't a vaccine or a proven cure as yet is concerning. And it is better to be overly cautious than risk millions of deaths. But shutting down the whole country for 2 months is going to cause negative repercussions that will take a long time to overcome. Not to mention the thousands of family business that are going under. The so-called experts way overestimated the death rate in the beginning, which started this panic. The media jumped all over it as a way of trashing Trump, even though we he imposed the travel ban on China the Dems and the media called him a racist. Drs. Fauci & Birk said the U.S. death rate could be 2.2 million, now they've revised it down to 100,000-200,000 and I will guess it will be much, much lower. This is serious, no doubt, but I agree with the Johnson guy that I pasted above - it just seems it a big time overreaction compared to other diseases we deal with regularly. We have around 30,000 flu death in America every year, 250,000 or so hospitalizations. Yet there's no impact on work, schools, daily life, etc. Life goes on.
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I hope the best for beautiful Sweden. I just hope it doesn't take a turn like Japan experienced this week.
There’s little scientific evidence because the virus was virtually unknown four or five months ago. Thankfully it seems to have a stable DNA molecule so we find some way to control it.
First, understand the difference between death RATE and TOTAL deaths. Rate is a percentage of the total cases. Total deaths is just that, actual number of deaths. In the bold you try to combine the two, they are very, very different. We are currently at roughly 1,000,000 known cases worldwide with 50,000 deaths...thus a RATE of 5% of known cases. Actual rate is much lower than that (1-1.5%) but still MUCH higher than any of the infectious diseases you listed.
When Dr. Fauci said the total deaths could be in the 2-2-2.5 mil range he was referencing a statistical model that assumed we went about our daily lives with minimal social prophylactic measures. The adjustment down to 100k - 200k was with the social isolating that we are doing now.
The daily death toll of Covid just passed the daily death toll of TB. Imagine if we had done nothing. What would the daily toll be? When this is over, Covid will easily pass the number you listed for the annual toll of the flu.
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sadgator is totally praying for it to be slowed, contained, cured whatever...and he’ll happily give credit to whoever gets it done, however it gets done....
nothing else matters...
nothing else matters...
Totally worth the risk!Some things are totally worth the risk...
You have no idea whether or not the Covid-19 death toll will pass that of the flu. It may happen, it may not and I'm sure we all hope that it doesn't. In January Dr. Fauci said that this virus was not a serious threat to the United States. This is his quote of 1/20/20: Dr. Fauci: "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing. But this is not a major threat for the people of the United States. And this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." He's been all over the place with his "expert" opinions and many medical experts all over the world have expressed varying medical opinions about the seriousness of this virus, many in conflict with one another and some in conflict with their own statements. As they've learned more about the virus, models, statistics, perceptions, projections and opinions have changed. My only point in my prior post where I listed part of an article written by Larry C. Johnson is to ask the simple question, "How much are we willing to destroy our country economically in order to reduce the potential number of infections and deaths? It's a valid question and one that our leaders are eventually going to have to answer. If we do as Dr. Fauci is now recommending, to keep the stay-at-home order in place and make it a national mandate until there are no new cases and no new deaths, we won't have a country. A society simply can't function indefinitely with millions and millions not able to work and businesses shutting down by the thousands. The national debt is already so out of control that eventually the economy will crash. And that was before this virus emergency. But to add trillions more to the debt to keep people from working or to prop up businesses so they can stay open will hasten our national bankruptcy. And what happens if we re-open the nation over the summer and then the virus re-emerges in the fall or winter, as many predict it will be a seasonal thing? Do we go through all this shutdown again? Sweden & Brazil have not shut down their economies and their coronavirus numbers are very similar to those of other countries who have taken extreme measures. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eden-similar-fatality-numbers-open-economies/
A feint, within a feint, within a feint, hidden by a distraction.
Create a civil chaos condition in order to institute an un-Constitutional declaration of Martial Law. Confiscating Guns will be the 1st order of business, unless they try to starve us out to weaken us first.
This is probably just the 'test run' to see how we all react to what they've done, before they make adjustments and bring it back at a later date.
The cost of FREEDOM is constant vigilance, and a willingness to fight for it...
Yes I do have an idea. How? Because I listened in math class when we learned exponents and I listened in biology class when we applied it to population growth rates. It's not a difficult concept.
On March 18th, the US had a total of 96 deaths. 16 days later we have 5,865, including over 1,000 just yesterday. They are expecting April to average 2,000 per day so approximately 60k just in April. It doesn't take a mathematician to see what is going on.
I agree with you on the second part, though...I hope it doesn't happen. But hope is a horrible plan,.
Meanwhile, any comparisons to the flu aren't holding up too well:
More than 1,000 in US die in a single day from coronavirus, doubling the worst daily death toll of the flu
We could use you over in the Lounge...but don’t do it...you’ll just be wasting your brain cells arguing with Ghost..
I had to block him finally. He kept hashtagging me. It got old. Maybe I'll unblock him in a couple months, when that "report" still hasn't come out.
sadgator knows tons of reasonable conservatives who he respects and who have no problem acknowledging that the county is going through an actual health crisis at the moment...Ghost is seriously on the lunatic fringe...it is odd.
About 9/1000 die annually in the U.S. currently.
323 Million = 2.6 Million will die in the U.S. this year from all causes.
Immortality ain't happening, nobody get's out of this world alive.
It's not how or when you die that matters, it how you live until then.
"I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees."
Co-V is a drop in that bucket of that annual 2.6 Million.
It's not worth destroying our economy over imo, and it's certainly not worth our Liberty!
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Just a random thought for consideration,,, on animal husbandry...
Have constant world-wide skirmishes to kill off the bravest young men and women.
Slowly breed out gallantry from the population thru liberalism's indoctrination education.
Give the population something to fear, real or imagined.
Bring on the Power Tyrants to rule the idiot sheep and the scared rabbits.
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The greatest FREE nation on Earth can still fall to Evil if it's left unattended....
323 Million = 2.6 Million will die in the U.S. this year from all causes.
Immortality ain't happening, nobody get's out of this world alive.
It's not how or when you die that matters, it how you live until then.
"I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees."
Co-V is a drop in that bucket of that annual 2.6 Million.
It's not worth destroying our economy over imo, and it's certainly not worth our Liberty!
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Just a random thought for consideration,,, on animal husbandry...
Have constant world-wide skirmishes to kill off the bravest young men and women.
Slowly breed out gallantry from the population thru liberalism's indoctrination education.
Give the population something to fear, real or imagined.
Bring on the Power Tyrants to rule the idiot sheep and the scared rabbits.
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The greatest FREE nation on Earth can still fall to Evil if it's left unattended....
I actually read some over there and backed up slowly, quietly closed the door and got the heck out of there. It's frustrating attempting to debate people who refuse to see the obvious data.
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Newest info. on Covid-19 deaths: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...d-presumed-due-covid-19-want-destroy-economy/
That's not "the latest". That is simply an opinion piece. A pretty bad opinion piece, but an opinion piece none the less.
Over at the Gator Country(swamp gas) political forum, you will make plenty of liberal friends over there. I've never seen a place littered with Gator liberals.
Honestly, sadgator ain’t that into it. Not even sure why sadgator even bothers in the Lounge (Conservative Corner). It is more fascination with somebody like Ghost than anything else...never really seen anybody so one-sidedly committed to their ideology...if that is the right way to characterize it...
What happens when you let these Govt scientist idiots make policy decisions for you.
I am sure once things open up they will claim the no-work lockdowns saved us when the evidence is actually they are making things worse for the places that went into them the earliest in the US.
Don't worry sad by about mid May this will start becoming a bad memory and then it's just making sure the same clowns aren't making the decisions again if it rears its head again in November.
At least we seem to have gotten rid of our dawg problem around here....
It's now down to just under 82,000. That's the mean, btw.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Experts Used by CDC Move Total US Coronavirus Deaths From 2.2 Million to 200,000 to 81,766 in Only 8 Days!
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Well down to a real bad flu season estimate now but look for these clown show govt. experts to half that 82k number in about a week also.
Whipped out his own brand of Rona on the puppiesPaco had a couple cases of this in his garage.
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